Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] shared driveways

Hi, Anthony wrote: If you can outline a perimeter, you don't need a relation. Care to elaborate? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] shared driveways

will only lead to conflicting data. The relation would express whether something is logically part of the site; the geometry would express whether something covers the same ground as the site. This is not the same information. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49

Re: [Tagging] Admin division multi-polys

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Re: [Tagging] Comparison of tag support: Mapnik, Osmarender, Potlatch, JOSM, Kosmos, Map Features (wiki)

Hi, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: By the way, isn't this moment where we should talk how to do seperate maps/layers for osm.org and how to deal with different kind of maps in general? It is clear that road and traffic map won't have all shops rendered (that would be serious overload of

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: highway=shared_use (or mup [multi-use path] or shared_path) The point is that these paths generally feature some level of bicycle and pedestrian use. I think I am having a deja-vu. The very reason people added the highway=path proposal (almost exactly 2 years ago)

Re: [Tagging] Comparison of tag support: Mapnik, Osmarender, Potlatch, JOSM, Kosmos, Map Features (wiki)

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Re: [Tagging] Comparison of tag support: Mapnik, Osmarender, Potlatch, JOSM, Kosmos, Map Features (wiki)

included in the Osmarender layer which has a tradition of showing more stuff and putting less emphasis on aesthetics. You can even edit Osmaredner stylesheets yourself and they will automatically be pulled in sooner or later by the renderers.) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

Hi, Erik Johansson wrote: 1. I use addr:housenumbers, just to get numbers on the map. Even though I don't follow the spec. Then why don't you use place=locality, name=45-29 if that's all you want. Does anyone have any improvements to make this scheme better? Yes, use the same scheme that

Re: [Tagging] Should 'highway=incline[_steep]' be discouraged?

Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: The problem with nodes is that you can't tell to which way the incline applies when there is more than one connecting to the node. Unless there are exactly two, of which one ends and the other begins at the node. In Germany, less than 2% of highway=incline nodes are

Re: [Tagging] Should 'highway=incline[_steep]' be discouraged?

Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: Of course, everyone can tag what he wants anyway. The question is what we want to encourage. This is like saying Anyone can drive at whatever speed he wants, the question is what we want to encourage. - ie, true, but fairly meaningless. Why? Anyone who

Re: [Tagging] Should 'highway=incline[_steep]' be discouraged?

Hi, Liz wrote: Oh, the writer of Wikipedia point geometry agrees with me. Then he must be old and have gone to school in the Dark Ages as well! Come on Liz, you know that Wikipedia is one of those projects where any nitwit can... ehm... ;-) Bye Frederik

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=quarter, Parts of settlements, proposed hierarchy: suburb - quarter - neighbourhood

Hi, On 09/27/2011 07:44 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: There's a problem here: you're assuming that neighborhoods (and so-called quarters) are well-defined. I am very much against using place=... for areas; if one wants to describe areas then one should use a boundary tag. If the proposed

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

that Data Working Group takes a very dim view of automated mass changes that do not have the required backing of the community, and will suspend their account if people complain about such actions. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

Hi, On 10/14/2011 01:00 PM, André Riedel wrote: If can't even tag *entrances* to a subway with this tag I see little use for it. Could either of you perhaps expand a bit about what you mean. You can tag the entrance of a train or subway station as entrance=yes/main BUT only together with a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

Hi, On 10/14/2011 01:18 PM, John Sturdy wrote: Are you recommending to tag subway stations as buildings in order to be able to tag their entrances? That seems logical to me. Is there some problem with doing this, that I haven't seen? Sorry, I forgot that a subway station does not always

Re: [Tagging] RFC: highway=tidal_road

life. Because the OSM ecosystem is full of software that goes ah, highway=footway, I'll use that and oh, look, there are some extra tags that I don't understand, I'll just ignore them it would be dangerous to tag such a way with a normal highway value. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [Tagging] RFC: highway=tidal_road

Hi, On 11/22/11 21:48, Colin Smale wrote: Surely the road in this case simply has tide-related opening times (and a variable surface?). It may be secondary, tertiary, unclassified or whatever. The fact that it is sometimes closed by the tide should be tagged separately from the type of road.

Re: [Tagging] RFC: shop=pastry

Hi, On 11/28/11 03:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Thing is, it doesn't help you if shop=bakery is rendered, when you are looking for bread and find a pastry, while it wouldn't help you neither if you looked for pastry and were led to a bakery, so basically to make this subtagging work you will

Re: [Tagging] (no subject)

Jo, please stop right there and take a deep breath. On 12/05/2011 12:45 PM, Jo wrote: Toerisme Vlaanderen wants to share its databases with us. There are accomodations like hotels, but also many others. I'm going to start by treating the hotels. OpenStreetMap is *not* a hotel database.

Re: [Tagging] Health and other stories

Hi, On 01/10/12 18:02, sabas88 wrote: Now the health facilities are tagged in amenity (when I go to the dentist I'm not happy as I would be in a bar!) I find it a bit harsh that you complain about amenity=dentist when others languish in an amenity=prison. Bye Frederik

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

Hi, On 01/12/12 13:26, Pieren wrote: Sure. But I fear about this trend asking more and more attributes in editors like P2 and JOSM. You and me know that all is optionnal but in the other way, editors are suggesting the opposite. And more you ask to newcomers and less your newcomers will

Re: [Tagging] tagging of ele / elevation data e.g. in the context of towers

; there will always be people who read ele on a building to mean its height. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] tagging of ele / elevation data e.g. in the context of towers

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Re: [Tagging] Wikifiddling, surface=cobblestone vs. sett paving_stones

. Me too. Anyway, changing main values of main tags in the wiki without further announcement, discussion or voting should be deprecated. Does that mean I must not change it back ;)? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Tag approval process or its absence (was: Voting for Relation type=waterway)

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Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

the object was that people once planned to build. I don't see why there should be a railway=cut when a layman would never know the the cut he observes was once meant to have a railway line. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

the map where the railroad was planned to be ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] This needs to be nipped in the bud

it is not crazier than some of the other ideas I've seen floated. It is good to add it to the comparison, if only to make people think about what they don't want ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] demolished buildings, temporal component of data

, e.g. type_of_edit={initial|geometry_fix|change_in_real_world|revert|...} Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] dispute about how to tag a type=multipolygon relation

- it doesn't generally make sense to split a 50-node inner ring into multiple parts. If you do it, it is unnecessary, but not invalid. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Extended Conditions - response to votes

not helping anyone. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Extended Conditions - response to votes

is just wouldn't it be nice if... tag wanking that gets us nowhere. As long as there are no real-world applications for this kind of detailed access mapping one can simply use the note tag and add stuff in natural language. That's my proposal for now ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [Tagging] sports_centre

was a Proposed_features/Gym page which has been removed by Harry Wood (explicit Cc as I don't know if he reads this) - unsure if he did so because he was convinced that there is too much ambiguity or just for procedural reasons. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008

Re: [Tagging] Remove odbl tags?

be treated just the same as created_by - remove them if you edit something anyway, but don't mass-remove just to get rid of them. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with ref tag on ways vs relations

in Chile and in China might not be the best way to model reality. And since it only rarely happens that someone travels from China to Chile using the same software - maybe a unified approach isn't even required. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008

Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with ref tag on ways vs relations

ingredient for roads mapping. Anything you want to kick off over and above that should be strictly in your local community. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with ref tag on ways vs relations

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Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with ref tag on ways vs relations

Hi, On 08/01/12 19:41, Petr Morávek [Xificurk] wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: Tools must serve mappers. Everything in OSM must be geared towards making contribution easy for mappers. Anything else is secondary; consumers are totally unimportant. I think, this is the point on which we

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Names localization

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Re: [Tagging] Tagging amenity=waste_basket

be changing anything. If there are people who think that mapping waste baskets as ways is a good idea then why not amend the Wiki page which, as you say, currently lists that tag for nodes only. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Everybody is hiding?

a restriction parser that understands any combination of restrictions on any tags. I have no problem whatsoever if the mapping of speed limits that only apply to HGV at night happens by way of a note tag. It's just not frequent enough to even discuss. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 35, Issue 23

number of users, a complex grammar for a restriction tag is likely *less* useful than note: lower speed limit at night or so - even if the programmer wets his pants about the sheer beauty and flexibility of the tag he has just defined. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede

Re: [Tagging] on the name of a tag for landcover

the landuse tag to record the presence of grass then you lose the ability to record the presence of grass in areas subject to land use. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] on the name of a tag for landcover

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Re: [Tagging] Why is this user editing in this manner?

the outer ways. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Carriageway divider

or perhaps because they have an emergency as well - and therefore it is important to distinguish between the physical and the legal side. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=cross)

. Is this custom of recent origin? The usual English translation is summit cross, and Wikipedia has a nice explanation about the history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit_cross Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Places admin boundaries

or place=city capital=yes or so. I would appreciate any thoughts and suggestions on these issues. It might be worth studying the Nominatim code, or asking the Nominatim coders, how they deal with this - they might have interesting insight. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

landlubbers. We have bothered much about that as long as OpenSeaMap tagged offshore stuff but I think we cannot tolerate this on the 30% of the world surface that have 99.9% of the data ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

Hi, On 11/23/2012 11:48 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: We have bothered much about that as long as OpenSeaMap tagged offshore haven't Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Catchment Areas

makes my hair stand on end. Streets in that city would all become members of 10 or more relations, which would be broken 90% of the time. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] non-trivial color schemes

plugin for JOSM where you can visually compile a buoy layout and have the plugin set the right tags - maybe some of their work can be applied here. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Comments wanted: Placement

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Re: [Tagging] Recreation_ground (landuse vs leisure)

to discuss your changes before. Yes, having to discuss makes such changes a little more cumbersome but they must not be too easy, or mistakes are more likely to happen. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Recreation_ground (landuse vs leisure)

, be a lone cowboy in your own backyard but not across the planet. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

Hi, On 20.06.2013 00:22, René Kirchhoff wrote: Could someone please state the results in the wiki? I have already un-deprecated the tag on the wiki two weeks ago. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Open of discussion on operational_status (part of life cycle with disused/abandoned/demolished)

was last modified. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Childcare Tag

for that - and just because a proposal was shot down, doesn't mean that the tag won't be rendered. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] Childcare Tag

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Re: [Tagging] Re : Tagging of topographic areas with a name

in the Black Forest and they'll say no; ask at the holiday rental property next door and they'll say sure ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] funny tags: turning_radius

Hi, On 29.08.2013 16:07, André Pirard wrote: This tag was created for the specific needs of logging [to tell which timbering vehicle can pass a bend] More background here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Round_wood_transport_in_the_forest Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede

Re: [Tagging] How to determine the value for admin_level?

level 6 your 5 - admin level 8 your 6 - admin level 9 or 10 It may help to find out how, if at all, NUTS or LAU standards apply to Nepal and then translate these levels to OSM admin levels similar to other countries. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09

Re: [Tagging] Dress Code proposal

. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Dress Code proposal

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Re: [Tagging] Proposal - RFC - man_made=lamp

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Re: [Tagging] Proposal - RFC - man_made=lamp

or not the voting has been started. Even if the proposal is rejected, people can still map lamps. Bye Frederik - -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Primary or Trunk? PITA?

Hi, On 03.11.2013 21:51, Jonathan wrote: I've just googled PITA Please keep replies to talk-uk where this thread originated. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

and the edit was promptly reverted by user adjuva http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16623822 who claimed that his was tagging for the geocoder. So if we wanted to make it a rule that boundaries are duplicated, we'll certainly have some explaining to do. Bye Frederik - -- Frederik Ramm

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

. NEVER. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE PROPOSAL CONTAINS THE WORD DEPRECATED. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Proposal - voting finished - man_made=lamp

the question - what if someone wanted to propose a *different* tagging of lamps, should they then overwrite the page with their proposal or should we simply have a ton of proposals in parallel? Bye Frederik - -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

they are on the map. The probably don't care where the pin is as long as it somehow increases their search engine ranking ;) Bye Frederik - -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

on the ground rule. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Related: Antarctic territories

but on a 100-year lease to another country and where that other country's law applies and so on. I guess we must make room in OSM for those who want to model such details, without making things unusable for the majority. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008

Re: [Tagging] Unsuitable?

of the mapper. (Remembered this, but found it doesn't say unsuitable but not advised instead - http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/bsabantamvc/phpFTq62V) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

Hi, On 01/22/2014 02:56 PM, bulwersator wrote: We are NOT mapping online-only activity. Attempting to place things like this on map is pointless and should be reverted as fast as possible to keep this from spreading. I tend to agree with that sentiment but it is difficult to draw the line. I

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

Hi, On 01/22/2014 06:27 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: IMHO this is a geographic reality. If you had to send a letter (physically) you would need exactly this kind of information. A letterbox is also very physical. We are not an address directory. We record the physical location of an

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

Hi, On 01/23/2014 12:29 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I completely agree that adding online businesses at fake locations is spam, but your relevance criteria seem too tight. I'd rather have too tight criteria (and leave out an occasional URL that might be useful) than be too open (and give

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin and Online shops

Hi, On 01/23/2014 12:30 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: Don't you think a visualization of the spatial distribution of online businesses would be interesting to someone? Are there more on the east or on the west coast of USA? Two answers A - get a list of online businesses with addresses, geocode,

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

, since much of the opening hours related discussion has really only seen German participation and I'm not sure if mappers elsewhere even agree with the way the Germans have decided to handle their opening hours tag. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008

Re: [Tagging] Mapping peninsulas

of Spanish coastline would have about 80 new tags or so. Or have I misunderstood something? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] What is OSM: a base layer for individual maps, or a fully featured geobased information system?

tagging schema or not. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting Extended - amenity=boat_sharing

interpretations are possible and you change tags so that things work in *your* routing engine, then that's the wrong approach - the tags must describe what is on the ground, and the routing engine must be adapted to work with that. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org

Re: [Tagging] What is OSM: a base layer for individual maps, or a fully featured geobased information system?

with the Gimp ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] layer=-1, rivers, bridges and tunnels

Hi, On 05.04.2014 21:17, Richard Z. wrote: If the road (for whichever reason, valid or not) has layer=-1 and the forest just the implicit layer==0, the road should still be drawn above the forest. I don't think that this idea is universally accepted. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ? (a typical OSM story)

? That wouldn't make 40% but 100% and require a wiki update by those able to understand contributors, wouldn't it? ;-) Vandalise OSM to prove a point and we'll kick you out. Just so that governments around the world can see that we're taking that seriously. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm

Re: [Tagging] Making TagInfo more useful

Hi, oops, silly me, hadn't read the full thread. I see you already found a way to annoy Jochen even without my help ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

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Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

with that themselves - can it be a mass edit or an editor preset gone wrong? I mean, the amenity consists not in there being ice cream, but there being a place where you can get ice cream. That would like tagging amenity=bed for a hotel or amenity=food for a restaurant... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm

Re: [Tagging] changing wiki , changing definitions

, or is changing, and of course we'd like the wiki to properly document current practice. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Wayside shrines that are not historic

Hi, On 08/19/2014 04:45 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: How one should tag wayside shrine that is not historic? Wait a few years. Then it is historic! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] The not-shops: industrial, industry, or business

the concrete thing they see rather than make the mental abstraction to find out what the generic version is. But we can't have a catalogue of tens of thousands of business types (none of which would cover the fork hire with optional pretzels anyway), Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede

Re: [Tagging] The not-shops: industrial, industry, or business

;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] What's the difference in these tags?

Hi, On 09/15/2014 01:26 PM, Dave F. wrote: You thoughts please. I think the user has it backwards. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] The not-shops: industrial, industry, or business

a generic sports-related-shop icon, the same that we would use for shop=bicycle or shop=skateboard alone. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] The not-shops: industrial, industry, or business

for the renderer? Obviously, shop=bicycle;surfing is the exact opposite of tagging for the renderer... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

in their mapping. A private residence where a single bedroom is made available to tourists is certainly no guest house and shouldn't be tagged as such! It is, and remains, a bed_and_breakfast. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Various alt_name values?

of names in alt_name, instead of having alt_name_1, alt_name_2 etc. like initially suggested in that thread. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Various alt_name values?

Hi, On 11/25/14 00:35, Frederik Ramm wrote: There was a discsussion on the talk/imports lists recently (September, Duh. I should have read Lukas' post before writing ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Tagging] Dispute with user over changing wiki page

complaint I will extend this rule until 2016. I will also (try to) revert all of ulamm's disputed edits on the Wiki. A more detailed message, in German, is here: https://lists.openstreetmap.de/pipermail/bremen/2014-December/000493.html Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs. optional cycletracks)

Hi, what is the legal situation in different countries - is Germany one of a very small number of countries that has this concept of if there is a certain type of cycleway than cyclists must not use the road, or is this quite common? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede

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