Re: [Tagging] date not in YYYY-MM.DD format should go into a sufix edtf ?

x27;s a lot and i've been too busy to make any progress on this for a while. the thing to keep in mind is that there is nothing much that processes OSM dates, where as OHM needs to process dates to do the things. this is what drives the differences. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill P

Re: [Tagging] Extremely long Amtrak route relations / coastline v. water

ess if you insist), just as nothing is lost by tagging Chesapeake Bay with the series of letters "c","o","a","s","t","l","i","n" and "e". Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Basic cartography features missing, why?

endering from one set of vector tiles. Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Artificial

uages of the British Isles) and I can assure you that the sentence quoted is, frankly,  beallucas. "Man"/"mann" in OE is usually gender-neutral. Go look at a parallel text of Beowulf if you don't believe me. Richard ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Crossing tagged on both way and node (was: What does bicycle=no on a node means?)

cle=no on a crossing, not least because bicycle=no is a very problematic tag - generally bicycle=dismount should be used instead, reserving bicycle=no for those circumstances where even pushing a bike is not legal (e.g. most public footpaths in England & W

[Tagging] relation proposals

t proposal, but rather i am about to write a proposal for a new subtype of route to serve the same purpose. i'd like to know the right place to put it. thanks, richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java

Re: [Tagging] tagging for fairgrounds

t time, OHM concerns are of limited interest here, tagging historic fairs is a use cae for this tagging as well. my map of the 1964-5 NY World's Fair (a work in progress) is a case in point: https://www.openhistoricalmap.org/#map=16/40.7465/-73.8439&layers=O so these things do exist, a f

[Tagging] tagging for fairgrounds

perhaps a midway, and so forth. it would be applicable both to such things as the periodic "World's Fairs" and to the many local fairgrounds (they're all over the US, tied to county and state fairs during the summer.) fairgrounds in the US are currently tagged somewhat erratic

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

lain to the router's authors that they're being prevented from plotting a viable route, then the authors are pretty obviously going to change the router so they stop getting complaints. So either fix the existing instances in OSM of bicycle=no being used to mean bicyc

[Tagging] route=raceway?

posal that would be useful to carry over for things like start and finish lines. thoughts? richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Taggin

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

Bears! > https://australianmuseum.net.au/learn/animals/mammals/drop-bear/ :-)) Same > applies to (virtually?) all of Western Europe, but how about North America, > Africa, Asia & so on? Do we have / need a way of tagging that bears (or > whatever) may be encountered while walking in

Re: [Tagging] Features underwater (inside reservoirs)

uage or was written by somebody who was only thinking of man-made > POIs. Or maybe it was written by somebody who didn't like using the > word "located" because it seemed a little repetitious so went with > "installed." the description in Key:location has b

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

spect that highway=trail would immediately be repurposed for those and we'd be deeper into the same mess. OSM, of course, speaks British English, but we do try to avoid obvious ambiguities (hence footway=sidewalk rather than =pavement). highway=mountain_path works for me for tagging mo

Re: [Tagging] Remove non-prefixed versions of 'contact:' scheme

I love the fact that we are now 50 messages into discussing, for the second time, a change that would be made ostensibly for the benefit of data consumers, and yet no one has asked any actual data consumers. https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrinchan_Ark_Fleet_Ship_B Richard -- Sent

Re: [Tagging] Remove non-prefixed versions of 'contact:' scheme

ss over this mailing list, I request that you do not keep bringing back proposals which were extensively debated beforehand and generally rejected. It wastes everyone's time. I don't particularly want to start banhammering people from the list but will do so if necessary. Thank you. R

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

eason to perpetuate that into other tags. I'd be 100% on board with using route_name= with your suggested definition. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

brad wrote: > The proper tag is highway=path, foot=yes, horse=yes, bike=yes. That's an utterly terrible set of tags _unless_ you also specify a surface tag. highway=cycleway is, by default, a way whose construction standards are "good enough to ride a bike on". Great! I can route along it. highw

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

into cycle.travel. But that doesn't help anyone else! Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

he whole route, excluding route number and geographical/similar qualifiers", illustrated with a set of examples. Yes, the key's a bit tautologous, but we have thousands of route=bicycle with route=?cn where the "c" stands for "cycle", so that's already a lost cause...

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

't really have a consistent way of referring to route numbers: you'll hear Sustrans staff refer to "Route 5" or "NCN 5" or "National Cycle Network Route 5" or "National Route 5". I was at a video conference with Sustrans staff

[Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

e description (and I can see that you need that for “part United Kingdom 5”), then I guess the obvious place to put that is the note= tag. But let’s keep it out of the name tag; and let’s have a concerted effort to remove them from existing name tags. Richard ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v3

depending on various policies. For example local buses in many places will never enter a freeway because they may have standing passengers which restricts them to a maximum operating speed incompatible with the use of freeways. Some use toll roads preferentially while others avoid them d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v3

On Sat, Mar 07, 2020 at 11:29:02AM +0900, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I appreciate the proposal authors for helping to simplify mapping bus > routes. > > I agree that in many cases it would be correct to only include the bus > stops or train platforms in the relation, especial for longer-distance >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v3

ample the city > PT map. Is the route "defined"? I would think the operator only defines stops and schedules. Most of the time busses and trains tend follow a nearly fixed route but may deviate from it anytime if there is a reason. Richard _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v3

/github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-profiles-contrib/blob/master/5/6/bus.lua etc. etc. etc. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

mean that, if a hotel owner says "hey, there's a hotel here, and it's called Bob's Hotel" we should automatically assume they're doing it for a purpose other than correctness and therefore "remove the whole POI". cheers Richard -- Se

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

So they're clearly not trying to track visitors expressly from OSM, they've just copied the URL. Where they've copied it from we don't know (they might have an internal spreadsheet of URLs, or they might have just Googled their own property - stranger things have happened). cheers Ric

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

e mapping app to find a hotel they're staying in? Anyway, brb, got to delete https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/312915889 from the map. cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

at exactly? cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

agging/2019-September/048338.html Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] road names and refs

ots of TIGER hasn't been fixed, particularly the rural areas where unnamed County Roads are more common. Fixing this wouldn't be a bad thing for a mechanical edit to do. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html

Re: [Tagging] road names and refs

heir ref. That's fine. I will say "I'm taking the A3400 to Stratford" rather than "I'm taking Shipston Road, which becomes London Road, which becomes Stratford Road, which becomes Shipston Road again etc. etc.". There are signs that say A3400 and signs that say Stratford

Re: [Tagging] Continuous Sidewalk or Cycleway

Florimond Berthoux wrote: > How to map a continuous sidewalk or cycleway ? A couple of ideas were posted in connection with the London cycle infrastructure database: https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion/issues/30 https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion/issues/16 Rich

Re: [Tagging] relation types: circuit proposal and an alternative

On 1/7/20 4:18 PM, marc marc wrote: > Le 07.01.20 à 20:58, Richard Welty a écrit : >> a profound lack of interest >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relations/Proposed/Circuit > > maybe it's due to the funny url for a propal > moving it at the right place m

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

rposes. (Almost all of its route is highway=trunk or highway=primary with no cycling provision whatsoever.) Although it's a signposted bike route and as such merits mapping, it is no more akin to a standard route=bicycle than a stretch of mountain bike singletrack is. cheers Richard [1]

[Tagging] relation types: circuit proposal and an alternative

ike a really clean way to get what's needed while sticking with a relation that already exists. the additional tags for things like start line, finish line, etc. would be added much like the specialized tags for outher types of routes. thoughts? richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Av

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

Florimond Berthoux wrote: > I’m really here just to know the english word. > In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for > cargo_bike if none disapprove. It's definitely a cargo bike in British English too. Richard (owner of a Circe Morpheus, which

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

t, so that'll need fixing... sigh. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2771761 ) cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Route node roles - was Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

s far as I know, there is also not much documented in the wiki on the topic > >of nodes in hiking/cycling relations. > > Possibly for checkpoints? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:checkpoint I would also use them for Tag:man_made=cairn if they are used to mark the h

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (contact:phone)

ni's law in action: "the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it". Please participate. Please participate by _mapping_. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (contact:phone)

just kill me now. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:16:43AM +0900, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > On Nov 19, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Richard wrote: > > > > Other than that, "dyke_area" or "area:dyke" in analogy to > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area:highway ? >

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

levee gives me much more useful information than "dyke". Other than that, "dyke_area" or "area:dyke" in analogy to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area:highway ? Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

. This is Mail.app > on MacOS 10.13.6. I have never really had this issue before. > In my mail client I have redefined "reply" to "reply-all" which so far works for all lists regardless of their settings. Richard ___ Tagging mai

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

hat related, waterway=dam can be either linear (the crown of the dam) or area. I think we should have one tag for the crown of the dam and one for the area because it would be often useful to map both of them. Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

ations. > - map levee with embankment pairs, or map with two pairs of levee specific > tags in a relation with the =dyke way? draw man_made=levee covering all elements Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://list

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 07:04:42AM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 at 05:05, Richard wrote: > > > > > We need new tags for the bottom of embankmets, top of cuttings, bottom of > > cliffs, earth_banks > > and maybe a few others if we want to ma

Re: [Tagging] Additional detail of Levee mapping via embankments

t have been nicer if we had a scheme like cliffe:edge and cliff:base and same for cutting, embankment, earth_bank from the beginning. The "old" defs like man_made=cutting can be left or man_made=cutting:base can be defined as an alias. Richard ___

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

ven though a never-enforced sign says thou shalt not. Richard cycle.travel -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

> As this is a very rare restriction, it is probable that many > applications will not want to deal with it. I am very happy to add such a restriction to cycle.travel's routing if a sane value can be agreed, and I'm sure other cycle routers would do the same. Richard -- Sent

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

ghts-and-responsibilities/ Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] amenity=hospital on things that are not hospitals - is it a good idea?

tly I would suggest opening also a JOSM validator ticket Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating mini_roundabout

against four-way stops and there are very few in the UK. I think the best suggestion in this case would be to update the documentation, particularly in translated pages, clarifying that the tag is intended for the formal mini-roundabout design as found in the UK, Ireland, France etc., and not for

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating mini_roundabout

ake the first exit". Could I suggest that you refrain from tag-fiddling on a subject where you clearly have no experience? Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Areas of bare soil (clay, silt, loam) such as badlands?

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 01:25:27PM +0900, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > That sounds right. So natural=badlands could be used on a node, or on > an area covering the heavily-eroded, bare soil area of the landform? There is also natural=earth_bank and natural=gully R

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

pful!) "It's on lots of websites" does not mean something is free of copyright. There are plenty of places where you can download cracked versions of Adobe Photoshop but I'm pretty sure that's still copyrighted. :) Richard --

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

s, but entirely unsuitable except for experienced cyclists on road bikes - much of it is on highway=trunk. A new route_type= tag on the relation would be a good way to go. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

get the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route properly tagged as route=mtb... it even says Mountain Bike in its name, for crying out loud. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstree

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

ndering and routing codes to blacklist certain routes in OSM which are made up or otherwise unsuitable.) Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openst

Re: [Tagging] How to map Irish pubs?

agging/2015-September/026494.html Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Pedestrian and highway crossings of tramways

rail, footpath or road) is already expressed in the way tags and doesn't need to be duplicated in the node tags. Let's just standardise on the simplest tag, railway=crossing, and nuke the others. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

ter...) Goodness me, the Teifi Netpool looks unrecognisable (and not for the better). O tempora, o mores etc. Pleased to see that Bessie's in the Gwaun Valley is still the same as ever though! cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

ery well if some of those pubs... aren't pubs. amenity=pub means "actually a pub", not "thing that looks like a pub". cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

Hence the phrase "assumed paved" - if the assumption's wrong, then tag the surface accordingly. Volker was asking about defaults, not a single unalterable surface for each highway type! Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.c

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

sidential is paved if tiger:reviewed=no Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing

from sun exposure. wildy offtopic so I bite my tongue to reply to that. Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Walking & Cycling Node Network tagging: undoing the hijacking of rcn and rwn

dy mapped in the network super-relation.) So I'd suggest that instead of network_type=, you add route_type= . This would achieve the same purpose; be semantically more appropriate; and be extensible to other routes where "route=bicycle" alone does not adequately capture the charact

Re: [Tagging] What sport=* for automobile racing?

On 9/1/19 8:20 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 9/1/19 12:12 AM, Warin wrote: >> >> On 31/8/19 9:49 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >>> There's also some uses of >>> sport=speedway which is also unclear. >> >> Speedway is a oval dirt course that is u

Re: [Tagging] What sport=* for automobile racing?

gt; There's also some uses of >> sport=speedway which is also unclear. > > Speedway is a oval dirt course that is usually used by cars and motorcycles. in some national contexts, sure. the definition in the US is not that restrictive. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill

Re: [Tagging] What sport=* for automobile racing?

motorcycles run on narrower circuits that are unsuitable for auto racing. i don't have a proposal here, just conveying information. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search __

[Tagging] Relations/proposed/circuit

at mapping street circuits and i think it'd be nice to talk about this before i commit any time to them. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

mon scripting languages (maybe drawing on common data tables) that make parsing OSM tags easier. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Roles of route members (was: Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, ...)

be edited with a simple UI is a bad data model; and that "power users" are a curse on Wikipedia and rapidly becoming the same in OSM, especially when their main role is to generate abstruse content as self-gratification but which no-one will ever actually consume. But that's just me

Re: [Tagging] Branched and alternative roujtes

tion with an appropriate role. cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Roles of route members (was: Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, ...)

I’m given a fully fleshed out algorithm which copes with the partly loaded relations that are standard for an online editor, but I’m not going to spend two days of dev time on something for which there is no great clamour outwith a couple of people on the tagging list. cheers Richard -- Sent

Re: [Tagging] roads with many names

ke "FS 729.2B". name=Corkscrew Gulch Road ref=CR 2 usfs:ref=FS 729.2B I think this holds even if the "county-designated name" is CR 2. The "name everyone uses" tallies with OSM standard practice; the official reference is what we have the ref tag for. Richard -- S

Re: [Tagging] Roles of route members (was: Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, ...)

Sarah Hoffman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 01:11:17AM -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Peter Elderson wrote: > > > The point is, as it is it's not good enough for data use besides > > > rendering. you can't rely on route relations for anything but &g

Re: [Tagging] Roles of route members (was: Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, ...)

all with my experience. Yet you've been a mapper for under two years and don't appear to have any software development to your name at all. But I might be missing something. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Roles of route members (was: Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, ...)

your experience is in consuming OSM data? Have you written code to do so? Do you run a website that uses OSM? Richard cycle.travel -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.

[Tagging] oneway=reversible and conditional restrictions

/wiki/Tag%3Aoneway%3Dreversible https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6271 Apparently the impact is much more than just oneway=reversible as conditional restrictions are now "implemented" in OsmAnd. Richard ___ Tagging maili

[Tagging] Clashing access tags

e route which goes over a private road and the mapper has forgotten to add bicycle=permissive, but not good for a new cycleway which hasn't yet been constructed. 2. Can we get warnings about this into validators etc.? I note iD doesn't warn about it. (No idea what JOSM does.) cheers

Re: [Tagging] track smoothness/quality

d values for it, especially for clarity around gravel. I could see some virtue in another tag to be used _only_ when surface= is also present, documenting how well the surface is maintained, so that you could differentiate between (say) potholey, broken-up asphalt and immaculately maintained asphalt.

Re: [Tagging] New description of waterway=pressurised

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:30:38PM +, marc marc wrote: > Le 09.06.19 à 01:12, Richard a écrit : > > The water level drops a few inches and > > suddenly the "pipe" is no longer water filled > > intermittent=yes/no that says that sometimes there is no water at al

Re: [Tagging] lanes = 0

re a fair few uses fo it in various > locations. So ... what is it used for? this might also be something like an attempt at oneway=reversible Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] New description of waterway=pressurised

ttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/natural%3Dcave Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] New description of waterway=pressurised

is a fundamentally flawed concept. The water level drops a few inches and suddenly the "pipe" is no longer water filled or only parts of it. Other parts of the cave will become pressurised after a rain that fills the cave with water? The fact that it has been approved only demons

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

gt; what about shooting or chess? Chess clearly isn't a physical activity, > while for shooting there may be discussion. > The council of Europe also cites snooker along with chess as sports [1], > probably darts would fit well in this list too ;-) i am an active participant in moto

Re: [Tagging] Extremely complicated conditional values

ing, does anyone have an idea how far the software support for conditional goes? Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

ontact with the lock-keepers, of course. So there is a very big difference between locks with a canal approach and no canal approach, and that should be reflected in the tagging. Richard (boat-owner, regular contributor and former editor of Waterways World, former editor of British Waterways&#x

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

DaveF wrote: > Have these diversions been given a 'XYZ Canal' name? if not then > it's a river. hahahahaha cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@op

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

eanwhile, the main course continues over the weir. As "cut" is usually a synonym for "canal" and they're artificially constructed, it's fairly justifiable to describe a lock cut as waterway=canal, I think. I guess you could put the whole lot in a river navigation relation i

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Volker Schmidt wrote: > I presume that your router would fall into the same trap, or does it > evaluate mtb:scale? Of course it does. :) cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailin

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

paths is useful information. If there's no bicycle= tag, yes, it could mean "bike access is implied by a default somewhere on the wiki" but it could also mean "this way is tagged incompletely". Deleting the tags would remove information and make it harder for routers to deli

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Grain Storage Centre

On 4/5/19 11:19 AM, Cédric Mélac wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Grain_Storage_Centre > Defintion: A large site with many silos and barns which concentrates > crops from farms around before selling at best prices. these are commonly called Elevators in the US. i don'

Re: [Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

: > crossings and junctions), and let the geometry speaks. On balance I agree and I'll go for this solution. Please send out a search party if I haven't returned in three days from the maze of nested relations that is cycle routes in East London. cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://g

[Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

ighway=cycleway and no additional tagging, on the basis that 'unprotected' is implied by the pedestrian-crossing tags and the junction geometry - i.e. obviously there's no protection there because we have a junction which cars can turn across. Any preferences? cheers R

Re: [Tagging] Wild changes to wiki pages changing the cycleway tagging scheme

consumers. As a recent example I would offer up https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-March/043991.html where the second paragraph provoked in me a reaction roughly analogous to https://tenor.com/view/it-crowd-moss-computer-throw-gif-5404468 ... Richard __

Re: [Tagging] Superroutes - good, bad or ugly?

;t), and personally I don't see the need for type=superroute when you can just have relations as children of type=route. I like Sarah's proposal for route_segment=yes. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html _

Re: [Tagging] Wild changes to wiki pages changing the cycleway tagging scheme

eway=opposite_lane is concise but unclear. Regardless, both are in widespread use so the wiki should document both. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Emergency vehicle country-specific law

#x27;ve interviewed a bunch while developing requirements, i have some insight into common policies.) richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___

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