RE: Windows 10 accessibility

Then use your delete key -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marvin Commerford via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:34 PM To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: Windows 10

WLM MS - The Sky Is Falling

This from my computer guru: I believe it was Henny Penny who exclaimed, the sky is falling, the sky is falling and had the group running in circles. First of all, this only pertains to Microsoft Mail accounts. Such as, Hotmail, Outlook.com, MSN.com, etc. It does not pertain to Gmail, Yahoo

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

I'm missing how this whole flipping thread is directly related to Window-Eyes! Is this the WE discussion list or a general Windows list now? It would realy be great to read about how users are working with WinX and Window-Eyes. Reading about how someone won't upgrade no matter what is

Re: Question about windows 10?

Hi Russ, I installed Windows 10 when it first came out and as part of the install process, you were asked if you wanted to run the upgrade advisor. It told me that my printer and scanner would work but that my screen reader may not be compatible, but it did work. Just go to Microsoft.com

Outlook again

Well, my so called klunk seems to be taking a vacationand I hope he stays for awhile But, after opening an email, every line speaks heading and continues as I read each line of the email Rather annoying So, do I have some kind of configuration or verbosity setting wrong? By the way,

opening attachments in outlook 2016

Hello, whenever I press alt and the number 7 to open an attachment, Window-Eyes says attachments not found. Is there a different shortcut command that I should use? Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Agree Tony! I have been running Windows 10 for nearly 2 months now, and have found it by far to be the best release of windows thus far! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and having said that mine is that with a few exceptions windows 10 has worked flawlessly. As I stated each is

RE: question about win 10 updrade.

It took mine about four or five hours. The first time it down loaded it said that something caused the down load to be interrupted so I had to do it again. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwaynemcnutt=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of michaels mail via

Re: question about win 10 updrade.

So did it take hours and hours to do. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 2:18 AM To: Dwayne McNutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: question about win 10 updrade. even windows 7 will do this if it can not find a sound driver for your

Back to Win 10

Went back to Win 7 after 5 days. Too many things just did not work well for me. Eloquence did not work as well. Quicken 2016, could not read and edit fields, and I could not adjust my colors scheme like I like it. Just did not see any additional features that would make me put up with the

Re: Windows live mail going away question

Hi Mike, Can you explain what you mean by WLM being retired in June? Does this mean that WLM will just stop working on my computers? Thanks, James Bentley -Original Message- From: Mike Boyd via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:43 PM To: Patricia Krinke ; Window-Eyes

Re: Windows live mail going away question

ok, s what can we use? i rely on live mail. -Original Message- From: Mike Boyd via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:43 PM To: Patricia Krinke ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows live mail going away question Much of the information in that email which you posted is

Re: Microsoft forcing Edge on the Masses?

Trish, Not sure of what you mean, I have had Windows 10 now for nearly 2 months, I have had IE as my default browser. I also have Edge, FireFox and Google Chrome. The edge browser still needs some work on it before it is ready for prime-time but I am not certain of what your problem is..? Can

Re: Windows live mail going away question

Much of the information in that email which you posted is true, WLM is being retired in mid June. However the message was spam. Had you taken note of the email address of the sender, you would have seen it had been sent from "outl...@office.com. There is no such address within the Microsoft

RE: Microsoft forcing Edge on the Masses?

Hi Vaughan, Hang on a minute. You mean, in Window 7 or 8.1, that is, prior to the upgrade, MS knows I'm running "assistive technology"? How in the world? Love to know the answer to this one, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: Microsoft forcing Edge on the Masses?

Yes. The advantage is that in theory at least, Windows is properly configured through updates and personalisation. Theory isn't always correct of course. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Microsoft forcing Edge on the Masses?

Does Microsoft know which of us uses accessibility, or do we need to tell them? Trish -Original Message- From: Stan Gowin via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:04 AM To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Microsoft forcing Edge on the Masses? Thank you for the

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

I must be missing something. What exactly is it that you folks want to keep out of date? Regards, Tom On 5/12/2016 3:43 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: The key word is defer. That means you can stop them for now, but they will try again later. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom

Re: Windows live mail going away question

Hi, Following is the message I received and hopes it relieves your minds: It appears that you are currently using Windows Live Mail 2012 to connect to your Out‍look‍.‍com account. Windows Live Mail 2012 does not support the synchronization technologies used by the new Outl‍ook‍.‍com. When

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Hmmm, that kind of sounds like the way Facebook does things. Think you're Privacy settings are the way you like them? Well, maybe, until the next time Facebook makes a change that is, then you have to do it all over again. Evan -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent:

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

The key word is defer. That means you can stop them for now, but they will try again later. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:23 PM To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows 10 accessibility Dennis, You can

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Yes, and about the updates and the privacy issues: it has been said that even if you turn them off, eventually, they turn back on. Pam. -Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:00 PM To: 'Darrell Bowles' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE:

Re: Windows live mail going away question

Well, that doesn't mean that it will disappear from your computer. There are folks who are still using Eudora. Andy -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:09 AM To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows live mail going

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

I'm using Windows 10, and it's smoother than 7 or 8 was. It's a bit different and takes so "learning" new things but... -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:44 PM To: 'Tom Kingston' ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Windows 10

RE: Windows 10 accessibility

First I don't like microsoft automatically installs updates I want the control to decide what does and doesn't get installed. Second I have the search box disabled in windows 7 don't want it. I also don't like that MS can go in and remotely remove a program. What if they remove a valid program.

RE: Windows 10 accessibility

Rebekah I'd like to talk to you off list, as I like the way you think. *smiles* -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:45 PM To: 'Tom Kingston'

RE: Windows 10 accessibility

This is not in any way meant as a criticism, but as has already been pointed out, I think people's fear of Windows 10 is based on misinformation. There's so much of that floating around, despite resources on Bookshare and Google. There are many people on this List who are successfully, and

Re: Computer Accessibility

Why should this surprise you? While I lean Libertarian (politically), there is no other entity than the government in terms of demanding accessibility. We are too small a minority to have any sort of economic leverage. On 5/12/2016 5:48 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: This is all my

Re: Windows live mail going away question

probably, Outlook. -- Curtis Delzer On Thu, 12 May 2016 11:09:47 -0400 Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: > Did they say they would stop supporting it? If so, what are we supposed to > use instead? Pam. > > -Original Message-

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

who makes the operating system? seems to me we are definitely going to have to go with their decisions in any case, and that is just the way it is. We can kick and moan, and thrash about and not like it, but that's just wasting energy. Why not get into a dialogue with them and in that way, affect

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

i cloned the win8 drive with casper before i installed win10. so no matter what happened i could restore it with the backup drive. i'm glad i did. the first time i installed win10 it hosed the computer and it wouldn't even boot. the second time there was no problem. *** you might try useing 64

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

the defaults right now for the cortana search box is to search your computer and the enternet every time you type in a search. but you can turn this off, which i did. i don't want all the internet garbage here. i'll use the browser for enternet searches. -Original Message- From:

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Microsoft was stopped *in court* many years ago from forcing its browser on us. So it's not going to happen no matter what the fear mongers say. On 5/12/2016 12:06 PM, net bat wrote: i hope your right. but who knows how far microsoft will go before they are stopped. i don't use the cortana

Re: Windows live mail going away question

I never understood this stuff about microsoft accounts. What are they and why would they be necessary? Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:02 PM To: Gayle ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows live mail going away question i

RE: win eyes and quicken

What version of quicken you running I am using 2010. It works with jaws with win 10, but you have to set the screen resolution to I think it is 1050 x 760 Anything above that it can process and read the font for being to small I would like to upgrade to quicken 2016. From: Loy

Re: Computer Accessibility

I agree. Narrator certainly isn't in the same league as VoiceOver. But why should it be? Anyone with Office can get Window-Eyes for free. And in my opinion it makes VoiceOver look like Narrator's big brother. Tom On 5/12/2016 11:36 AM, Evan Reese via Talk wrote: Hmmm, I just got an iPad

Re: question about win 10 updrade.

even windows 7 will do this if it can not find a sound driver for your computer. i use a u s b to analog adaptor for this with regular headphones. just in case windows can not find the driver. with me once i got windows 7 and 10 installed and it installed all the updates windows found and

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Evan, As I'm sure you know, the search engine and the browser are two different things. But soon all Apple devices will default to the Apple search engine, Spotlight, which is still in development and being slowly rolled out. Tom On 5/12/2016 11:31 AM, Evan Reese wrote: Perhaps,

Re: Windows live mail going away question

i think it will continue to work for email only as long as you are not useing a microsoft account if you are you would have to use the web version of live mail, outlook or office 365 because microsoft is useing another email protocol. you would not be able to use wlm to sink with other devices.

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

i hope your right. but who knows how far microsoft will go before they are stopped. i don't use the cortana search to search the net. i have this option turned off and use firefox. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:03 AM To: Tom Fairhurst

RE: question about win 10 updrade.

I updated my laptop from Windows 7 to 10 and it took a long time. When it was finished, I could not get Jaws to speak at all. Come to find out, Windows 10 had somehow set the default to headset. You may want to have someone sighted nearby unless you have any problems. -Original

Re: Windows live mail going away question

they want you to use the web based mail or outlook or office 365 i think it will continue to work as long as you are not useing a microsoft account. they are changeing the email format they use. if they haven't changed it already.

Re: Weather or not app

the sounds are gone? :) no more indicators when the weather is retrieved? at least by default. :) -- Curtis Delzer On Fri, 06 May 2016 14:23:53 -0500 Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: > Yeah, the New and Improved Weather or Not. > They must

Re: win eyes and quicken

I just upgraded to Windows 10 using WE. Quicken is unusable in Win 10. It was usable in Win 7. I guess I'll have to go back to Win 7 I use Quicken everyday with several accounts. - Original Message - From: george basioli via Talk To: 'Tom Kingston' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion

RE: Windows 10 accessibility

Hi Evan, Incidentally, if you can find a Windows 8.1 driver for it, then it will work in Windows 10. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese via Talk Sent: May 12, 2016 11:27 AM To: Dennis Long

Re: Computer Accessibility

Hmmm, I just got an iPad Mini 4 a couple weeks ago, my first foray into the Apple world. But from my admittedly still somewhat limited experience, I don't think Microsoft's Narrator is in the same league of accessibility as VoiceOver. Evan -Original Message- From: Rick Thomas via

RE: Windows 10 accessibility

Hi Tom, Well, if they all look like Bill Gates, then we can just steal their eyeglasses and we'll render them harmless. (Grin) Live long and prosper, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Perhaps, ironically, Bing is the default search engine when I search on my new iPad Mini 4. I can change it, but Bing is what you get by default. Evan -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 3:03 AM To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

RE: Windows 10 accessibility

Hi Pam, In Windows 10, Cortana is what you're using if you want to search your own local computer for absolutely anything, from an app to a file. Another name for the search edit box on the Start menu is Cortanaa. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: Microsoft forcing Edge on the Masses?

My first windows computer had both internet explorer and netscape in it. It also had outlook express and a whole bunch of other programs in it, and it came with the software and big books. It came with the monitor, and a scanner and a Boston Acoustics speaker set with a subwoofer . Pam.

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Pam, This is the problem with articles from forbes, which is the basis upon which this thread was started. They are notorious among journalists for being sensationalist, scary, and light on facts. Go to their web site with an ad blocker active and they won't let you in unless you turn it

Re: Windows live mail going away question

Did they say they would stop supporting it? If so, what are we supposed to use instead? Pam. -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:44 AM To: Gayle ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows live mail going away question they may quit

Re: Windows live mail going away question

I have Windows 7 and 9.4. Been using Becky email for several years and really like it. It costs $40, one time. I think there might be a demo, but not sure. There's a tutorial for it, as you have to uncheck a couple items to make it work with screen readers. I have those instructions, if

Re: Microsoft forcing Edge on the Masses?

Thank you for the thoughtful post. Microsoft has ramped up their staffing to improve accessibility of the Office products. They also promise to deliver an accessible version of the Edge browser later this year. I suspect that is one of the reasons they will allow vision-impaired Windows users

Re: Computer Accessibility

Well said Rick, Well said. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit

Microsoft forcing Edge on the Masses?

Hello, In years past, If I remember correctly, Microsoft was in some kind of trouble because they were packaging Internet Exploder with Windows 95 and 98. At the time, there was a Company named, Netscape that had their own Browser and they had filed some sort of complaint against Microsoft. The

Re: Computer Accessibility

I would love to see a day when accessibility is built into the design of software and other products without a mandate from he US government. As for the edge browser, it is being worked on, but again, it should've been accessible from day 1. I think Microsoft is learning many lessons about

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Oh, in that case, if it's that you have to be using courtana in order to have Edge be the only browser, then I am all right, because even if I got windows ten, I would not use courtana. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 3:03 AM To: Tom

Fw: Windows live mail going away question

From: Gayle Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:22 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Windows live mail going away question Hi, I have Windows 7 and Windows live mail. I have WE 8.4. I heard that windows live mail is going away. Which email program would work best with WE8.4? Any

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

Yes, but if they make it so that you can only use edge, which they seem to be saying they will, then it most definitely is critical. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:52 PM To: Evan Reese ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re:

win eyes and quicken

How well does win eyes and quicken 2015, or 16 work together thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit

Re: Question about windows 10?

Russ, Microsoft does have a compatibility testing program. But I have no idea what it is. So I'd Google it. Otherwise the most important thing to do is to go to the manufacturer's web sites and look for the latest drivers for your sound card, display adapter, monitor, printer, etc. Good

Re: Windows live mail going away question

they may quit supporting WLM, and may not be any new versions but I'm still using it on a Windows 10 PC. -Original Message- From: Gayle via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:22 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Windows live mail going away question Hi, I have Windows 7 and

Windows live mail going away question

Hi, I have Windows 7 and Windows live mail. I have WE 8.4. I heard that windows live mail is going away. Which email program would work best with WE8.4? Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Gayle ___ Any views or opinions presented in this

Question about windows 10?

Before upgrading to windows 10, is there a way to check to make sure my programs and drivers will work with it? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For

Re: Could someone please quickly tell me how to turn off Windows toggle switches?

Thanks so much Mark. Very well explained. Larry On 5/12/2016 7:43 AM, Marc Solomon wrote: Hi Larry, Toggle switches behave much like a typical light switch. The switch has two states, on and off. I usually encounter toggle switches when working with the Settings app in Windows 10. Toggle

question about win 10 updrade.

Hi guys i was wondering if any one has upgraded a win 7 laptop to windows 10. And if so was it a slow process. I have done from win 8.1 to win 10 and all up it took no more then 2 hours. I tried it on a win 7 machine today and i spend 7 hours and it still was not up to the installing stage just

Computer Accessibility

This is all my personal opinion based on watching business and industry over many years, it may or not be correct - take it for what it is worth. Accessibility for the disabled is a result of political pressure on large companies since it is an additional time / money cost. Less political

Re: Windows 10 accessibility

They're not going to force anyone to use the Edge browser. All they're doing is making it the only choice if you search from the Cortana search box. And why not? Of course they're going to promote the use of their own products. If it's too much to open whatever browser you want and whatever