RE: Eset 10
That's good to hear. It may be that Eset is more accessible now; that's why I asked my question. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 5:06 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset 10 Eset popped up while I was on the internet, using Chrome rather than IE, which may have been a good thing. It asked me if I wanted to allow something or block it. Since I was unsure what it was talking about, I chose block. Better safe than sorry. Smile. But I decided to run a scan, just in case. I clicked scan from the main Eset screen, and saw from the system tray that a scan was in progress. When I checked later, the scan in progress message was gone. I alt-tabbed to the Eset screen where I read that no threats had been found. I used alt-f4 to close the program. I know some have stated that Eset 10 is not accessible with Window-Eyes. For my needs, it's perfectly accessible. When it comes to antivirus protection, I've never had a problem using Eset right out of the box, so to speak, and leaving the program to get on with what I've paid it to do. For the advanced computer people on the list, this may not be what you want. But I think it's fine for the average user, and certainly for those with limited computer skills and no interest in going beyond basic tasks. An advantage for these last, and the rest of us too, regardless of skill level, Eset tech support is available free with a quick phone call. Again, JMO, in case the information proves useful to someone. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Alternative to Eset
I think part of the question -- and I have the same question -- is not only what programs are accessible but what programs are accessible and do a good job finding viruses. The reason a lot of us went with Nod-32 is that it was not only accessible in the day it also had an excellent reputation as a virus checker. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:38 PM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Alternative to Eset Why not just use Windows Defender. It's free and comes integrated with Windows. Very accessible. On 4/14/2017 4:16 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My Eset license is about to expire, and I was wondering if there is a > more accessible solution. I know this has been covered before, but I > missed the thread. Thank you in advance. > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Alternative to Eset
it may be accessible but it is still on the botom of the list for catching malware. and from this link it does not scan anything when useing non microsoft browsers. http://www.tomsguide.com/us/windows-defender,review-2209.html -Original Message- From: Stephen Clark via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:37 AM To: Samuel Wilkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Alternative to Eset Why not just use Windows Defender. It's free and comes integrated with Windows. Very accessible. On 4/14/2017 4:16 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: Hello everyone, My Eset license is about to expire, and I was wondering if there is a more accessible solution. I know this has been covered before, but I missed the thread. Thank you in advance. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Alternative to Eset
Thank you all for your suggestions, I will definitely consider them. On 15/04/2017 02:02, Brenda via Talk wrote: I hear Sophos Home works well with window-eyes and is free for up to 10 users. I guess it runs like a web page. there are folks on the blindtech and this list that use it. You have to go to their website to download it. I prefer something that I load to my pc from disk so I chose Vipre. They have US based tech support and will help you with issues. Also, they at least know what screen readers are. The really good deal I got from HSN helped me make my final decision. I hear some jaws and NVDA users have some success using vipre and I have "sighted assistance" if I have issues.One person said it made his fan run alot, but noone else has said that. I have been trying to find an accessible antivirus/security program lately, and this is all I can tell you. hth Brenda On 4/14/2017 4:16 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: Hello everyone, My Eset license is about to expire, and I was wondering if there is a more accessible solution. I know this has been covered before, but I missed the thread. Thank you in advance. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/soundsam%40spwnet.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Alternative to Eset
Why not just use Windows Defender. It's free and comes integrated with Windows. Very accessible. On 4/14/2017 4:16 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: Hello everyone, My Eset license is about to expire, and I was wondering if there is a more accessible solution. I know this has been covered before, but I missed the thread. Thank you in advance. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Alternative to Eset
I hear Sophos Home works well with window-eyes and is free for up to 10 users. I guess it runs like a web page. there are folks on the blindtech and this list that use it. You have to go to their website to download it. I prefer something that I load to my pc from disk so I chose Vipre. They have US based tech support and will help you with issues. Also, they at least know what screen readers are. The really good deal I got from HSN helped me make my final decision. I hear some jaws and NVDA users have some success using vipre and I have "sighted assistance" if I have issues.One person said it made his fan run alot, but noone else has said that. I have been trying to find an accessible antivirus/security program lately, and this is all I can tell you. hth Brenda On 4/14/2017 4:16 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: Hello everyone, My Eset license is about to expire, and I was wondering if there is a more accessible solution. I know this has been covered before, but I missed the thread. Thank you in advance. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Alternative to Eset
I'm not laughing, but I'm just saying you are extremely lucky. It never ever caught any of the viruses or malware that were plaguing my computer. It told me I was clean. Pam. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:19 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Alternative to Eset People will laugh, but in the latest windows 10 update, Microsoft security essentials is pretty solid. It's accessible and it's built right into Windows. So if you've got that, or even Windows 7 or 8.1 you should be good. A lot of people dismiss security essentials but it's never failed me., and i've been using it as my antivirus program for many years now. On 4/14/2017 4:16 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: Hello everyone, My Eset license is about to expire, and I was wondering if there is a more accessible solution. I know this has been covered before, but I missed the thread. Thank you in advance. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Alternative to Eset
People will laugh, but in the latest windows 10 update, Microsoft security essentials is pretty solid. It's accessible and it's built right into Windows. So if you've got that, or even Windows 7 or 8.1 you should be good. A lot of people dismiss security essentials but it's never failed me., and i've been using it as my antivirus program for many years now. On 4/14/2017 4:16 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: Hello everyone, My Eset license is about to expire, and I was wondering if there is a more accessible solution. I know this has been covered before, but I missed the thread. Thank you in advance. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Alternative to Eset
Hello everyone, My Eset license is about to expire, and I was wondering if there is a more accessible solution. I know this has been covered before, but I missed the thread. Thank you in advance. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10
What about with NVDA? -Original Message- From: Steve Nutt Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:10 AM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 Hi, It does work a lot better with JAWS now Version 10 that is. I don't think Eset have paid any attention to other screen readers than JAWS. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: 26 March 2017 14:47 To: net bat <net...@comcast.net>; drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 I'm still running version 8. I keep getting a message from nod32 to upgrade to the current version. The message seems to indicate better protection with the current version. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:31 PM To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 eset has allready told me version 10 is not compatable with window eyes. but there message was in jan 2017. there is several places in the program where you have to use the mouse to read the screens and the mouse to click on some of the control buttons. so i will still wait for more accessibility reviews. -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 Until today, I was using Eset Antivirus version 8, since there were problems with accessibility for the later versions, or so I'd understood. But today I upgraded to version 10, and it works beautifully with Window-Eyes. I'd been waiting for one of the tech geeks on the list to test it out for me, and post a reassuring message. Smile. If someone did, I missed it. So here is that reassuring message for anyone else who missed it too and who has been waiting. Rumming Windows 10, Window-Eyes version 9.5.4. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Eset Antivirus, Version 10
Hi, It does work a lot better with JAWS now Version 10 that is. I don't think Eset have paid any attention to other screen readers than JAWS. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: 26 March 2017 14:47 To: net bat <net...@comcast.net>; drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 I'm still running version 8. I keep getting a message from nod32 to upgrade to the current version. The message seems to indicate better protection with the current version. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:31 PM To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 eset has allready told me version 10 is not compatable with window eyes. but there message was in jan 2017. there is several places in the program where you have to use the mouse to read the screens and the mouse to click on some of the control buttons. so i will still wait for more accessibility reviews. -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 Until today, I was using Eset Antivirus version 8, since there were problems with accessibility for the later versions, or so I'd understood. But today I upgraded to version 10, and it works beautifully with Window-Eyes. I'd been waiting for one of the tech geeks on the list to test it out for me, and post a reassuring message. Smile. If someone did, I missed it. So here is that reassuring message for anyone else who missed it too and who has been waiting. Rumming Windows 10, Window-Eyes version 9.5.4. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Eset Antivirus, Version 10
Hi, Yes, it is only accessible on a very basic level. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: 25 March 2017 23:31 To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 eset has allready told me version 10 is not compatable with window eyes. but there message was in jan 2017. there is several places in the program where you have to use the mouse to read the screens and the mouse to click on some of the control buttons. so i will still wait for more accessibility reviews. -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 Until today, I was using Eset Antivirus version 8, since there were problems with accessibility for the later versions, or so I'd understood. But today I upgraded to version 10, and it works beautifully with Window-Eyes. I'd been waiting for one of the tech geeks on the list to test it out for me, and post a reassuring message. Smile. If someone did, I missed it. So here is that reassuring message for anyone else who missed it too and who has been waiting. Rumming Windows 10, Window-Eyes version 9.5.4. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Eset Antivirus, Version 10
Hi Rebecca, I would urge caution when you make statements like Eset is now accessible with Window-Eyes. It is far from it. The activation process is not accessible, though it was with JAWS. The Advanced Setup options are also not accessible, they just read out all the checkboxes and say False or True, depending on whether they are checked or not. So if all you want to do is scan, then it is fine. But most of the setup parameters are not accessible. Try it some time. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: 25 March 2017 22:02 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 Until today, I was using Eset Antivirus version 8, since there were problems with accessibility for the later versions, or so I'd understood. But today I upgraded to version 10, and it works beautifully with Window-Eyes. I'd been waiting for one of the tech geeks on the list to test it out for me, and post a reassuring message. Smile. If someone did, I missed it. So here is that reassuring message for anyone else who missed it too and who has been waiting. Rumming Windows 10, Window-Eyes version 9.5.4. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10
I'm still running version 8. I keep getting a message from nod32 to upgrade to the current version. The message seems to indicate better protection with the current version. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:31 PM To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 eset has allready told me version 10 is not compatable with window eyes. but there message was in jan 2017. there is several places in the program where you have to use the mouse to read the screens and the mouse to click on some of the control buttons. so i will still wait for more accessibility reviews. -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 Until today, I was using Eset Antivirus version 8, since there were problems with accessibility for the later versions, or so I'd understood. But today I upgraded to version 10, and it works beautifully with Window-Eyes. I'd been waiting for one of the tech geeks on the list to test it out for me, and post a reassuring message. Smile. If someone did, I missed it. So here is that reassuring message for anyone else who missed it too and who has been waiting. Rumming Windows 10, Window-Eyes version 9.5.4. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Eset Antivirus, Version 10, Thoughts
Hello, You're probably a more advanced user than I am when it comes to the information you want from an antivirus program. If I can scan my computer, check for updates and program upgrades manually when needed, that's all I need. I leave Eset to get on with it. Smile. I have gone into tools to check if anything is quarantined, never, and you're right, the new screen here has changed and seems not as accessible. Once with version 8, I had an issue and called Eset. I could not read the information he requested from the depths of the program, but he took control of my computer and checked for me that all was ok, which it was. You can't get that level of customer service from many antivirus programs. But the protection is the same with version 8 as with version 10, as I was told, so there's no harm in waiting for something more to your needs. But I just discovered that the tab works, as well as the Window-Eyes mouse to navigate and interact with the Eset screen. I also have friends who go to "My Computer" or "This PC" and use the context menu to scan their C drives. Whatever works! Smile. Rebecca -Original Message- From: net bat [mailto:net...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:31 PM To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 eset has allready told me version 10 is not compatable with window eyes. but there message was in jan 2017. there is several places in the program where you have to use the mouse to read the screens and the mouse to click on some of the control buttons. so i will still wait for more accessibility reviews. -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 Until today, I was using Eset Antivirus version 8, since there were problems with accessibility for the later versions, or so I'd understood. But today I upgraded to version 10, and it works beautifully with Window-Eyes. I'd been waiting for one of the tech geeks on the list to test it out for me, and post a reassuring message. Smile. If someone did, I missed it. So here is that reassuring message for anyone else who missed it too and who has been waiting. Rumming Windows 10, Window-Eyes version 9.5.4. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Antivirus, Version 10
eset has allready told me version 10 is not compatable with window eyes. but there message was in jan 2017. there is several places in the program where you have to use the mouse to read the screens and the mouse to click on some of the control buttons. so i will still wait for more accessibility reviews. -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Antivirus, Version 10 Until today, I was using Eset Antivirus version 8, since there were problems with accessibility for the later versions, or so I'd understood. But today I upgraded to version 10, and it works beautifully with Window-Eyes. I'd been waiting for one of the tech geeks on the list to test it out for me, and post a reassuring message. Smile. If someone did, I missed it. So here is that reassuring message for anyone else who missed it too and who has been waiting. Rumming Windows 10, Window-Eyes version 9.5.4. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Eset Antivirus, Version 10
Until today, I was using Eset Antivirus version 8, since there were problems with accessibility for the later versions, or so I'd understood. But today I upgraded to version 10, and it works beautifully with Window-Eyes. I'd been waiting for one of the tech geeks on the list to test it out for me, and post a reassuring message. Smile. If someone did, I missed it. So here is that reassuring message for anyone else who missed it too and who has been waiting. Rumming Windows 10, Window-Eyes version 9.5.4. Rebecca Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you. Aldous Huxley ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: ESET NOD32
Likewise, I'm still running version 8 and my product update only brings up version 9. Do you still get the same virus protection with version 8 as you would get with version 10? -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 6:34 AM To: 'Russ Kiehne' Subject: RE: ESET NOD32 The web site does say NOD 32 10. My just renewed license says version 9. I'm running version 8 and my product update only brings up version 9. But as I said in an email yesterday, version 9 or 10 is a moot point, because I was told by an Eset representative yesterday that although Eset works with JAWS, it does not yet work with Window-Eyes. I would prefer not to be the person to test the accuracy of this. But others have indicated that versions later than 8 are not accessible. Window-Eyes recommended staying with version 8. The antivirus protection is the same. Rebecca -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:russ94...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:15 AM To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: ESET NOD32 I just received the following from Eset support. Anyone try version 10? Hello, Thank you for contacting ESET North America Customer Care. Version 10 is already available to download from our Downloads page: https://www.eset.com/us/support/download/home/ This version is compatible with some screen readers such as JAWS. Thank you for using ESET security products, -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:41 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: ESET NOD32 Version 9, the latest version, is not yet accessible with Window-Eyes, as just confirmed by a phone call to Eset technical support. Their web site states that the program has been tested with JAWS. I was told that there would be a similar statement for Window-Eyes users if/when the program became accessible. Rebecca I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy. From: Rabindranath Tagore ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: ESET NOD32
I just received the following from Eset support. Anyone try version 10? Hello, Thank you for contacting ESET North America Customer Care. Version 10 is already available to download from our Downloads page: https://www.eset.com/us/support/download/home/ This version is compatible with some screen readers such as JAWS. Thank you for using ESET security products, -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:41 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: ESET NOD32 Version 9, the latest version, is not yet accessible with Window-Eyes, as just confirmed by a phone call to Eset technical support. Their web site states that the program has been tested with JAWS. I was told that there would be a similar statement for Window-Eyes users if/when the program became accessible. Rebecca I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy. From: Rabindranath Tagore ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Nod 32
No. The Eset rep tried to turn off the graphics and could not. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:35 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Eset Nod 32 does it still have the option to turn off the use of graphics like version 8 has? -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:57 AM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Eset Nod 32 I forgot to say that I tried version 10, which has just come out. I found it difficult to use and wasn’t able to set some of the advanced settings, such as having the program delete infected e-mails. I am back using Windows Defender in Windows 10 1i607 edition. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Nod 32
does it still have the option to turn off the use of graphics like version 8 has? -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:57 AM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Eset Nod 32 I forgot to say that I tried version 10, which has just come out. I found it difficult to use and wasn’t able to set some of the advanced settings, such as having the program delete infected e-mails. I am back using Windows Defender in Windows 10 1i607 edition. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Eset
Clarification or further obfuscation. The web site says Eset NOD32 10, which no doubt is correct. Smile. But I just renewed several days ago and my updated license is for version 9. I'm still using version 8. The version listed when I check for product update is version 9. Either the update function has not caught up with the new version, or one has to have 9 installed before 10 can go in, unlike Window-Eyes, which can skip versions. It's a moot point anyway, since nothing beyond 8 is accessible. I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy. From: Rabindranath Tagore ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Eset Nod 32
I forgot to say that I tried version 10, which has just come out. I found it difficult to use and wasn’t able to set some of the advanced settings, such as having the program delete infected e-mails. I am back using Windows Defender in Windows 10 1i607 edition. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: ESET NOD32
also eset has never supported window eyes. only jaws. so don't hold your breath for window eyes support. -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:57 AM To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: ESET NOD32 Version 10 is out. I tried it and it is very difficult to use. It is not that accessible to Window-Eyes. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:41 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: ESET NOD32 Version 9, the latest version, is not yet accessible with Window-Eyes, as just confirmed by a phone call to Eset technical support. Their web site states that the program has been tested with JAWS. I was told that there would be a similar statement for Window-Eyes users if/when the program became accessible. Rebecca I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy. From: Rabindranath Tagore ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: ESET NOD32
Version 10 is out. I tried it and it is very difficult to use. It is not that accessible to Window-Eyes. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:41 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: ESET NOD32 Version 9, the latest version, is not yet accessible with Window-Eyes, as just confirmed by a phone call to Eset technical support. Their web site states that the program has been tested with JAWS. I was told that there would be a similar statement for Window-Eyes users if/when the program became accessible. Rebecca I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy. From: Rabindranath Tagore ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
ESET NOD32
Version 9, the latest version, is not yet accessible with Window-Eyes, as just confirmed by a phone call to Eset technical support. Their web site states that the program has been tested with JAWS. I was told that there would be a similar statement for Window-Eyes users if/when the program became accessible. Rebecca I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy. From: Rabindranath Tagore ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
I am also using version 8 under Windows 10, anniversary edition, and not having problems. I ignore the messages about upgrading it. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:22 AM To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Martin Brown ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset I'm still using version 8. Outside of the baking part not being accessible, what about the rest of it? -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:10 AM To: Martin Brown ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset I was using version 8, but removed it because it kept trying to upgrade to version 9. I waas using Eset Smart Security. I called Eset and they suggested changes, but the program wouldn't save the changes. Using Windows Defender in Windows 10, 1607 edition. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Martin Brown via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 6:29 AM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Don't upgrade to Version 9. It is not accessible with screen readers. The new security feature, e.g. the added level of security when banking, is not yet useable with screen readers. Martin -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+mbrown.brown4=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:40 PM To: JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Samuel Wilkins' <sound...@spwnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset I'm still using version 8. From time to time, I get a message from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: JOHN RIEHL Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:02 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Samuel Wilkins' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Version 9 has added the "banking" module. I believe there's a way not to get it or activate it, but I'm not sure. What I heard on the list a few months ago is to stick with version 8. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:19 AM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email ar
Re: Major Problem with Eset
I'm still using version 8. Outside of the baking part not being accessible, what about the rest of it? -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:10 AM To: Martin Brown ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset I was using version 8, but removed it because it kept trying to upgrade to version 9. I waas using Eset Smart Security. I called Eset and they suggested changes, but the program wouldn't save the changes. Using Windows Defender in Windows 10, 1607 edition. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Martin Brown via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 6:29 AM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Don't upgrade to Version 9. It is not accessible with screen readers. The new security feature, e.g. the added level of security when banking, is not yet useable with screen readers. Martin -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+mbrown.brown4=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:40 PM To: JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Samuel Wilkins' <sound...@spwnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset I'm still using version 8. From time to time, I get a message from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: JOHN RIEHL Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:02 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Samuel Wilkins' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Version 9 has added the "banking" module. I believe there's a way not to get it or activate it, but I'm not sure. What I heard on the list a few months ago is to stick with version 8. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:19 AM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mbrown.brown4% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/priv
Re: Major Problem with Eset
I was using version 8, but removed it because it kept trying to upgrade to version 9. I waas using Eset Smart Security. I called Eset and they suggested changes, but the program wouldn't save the changes. Using Windows Defender in Windows 10, 1607 edition. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Martin Brown via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 6:29 AM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Don't upgrade to Version 9. It is not accessible with screen readers. The new security feature, e.g. the added level of security when banking, is not yet useable with screen readers. Martin -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+mbrown.brown4=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:40 PM To: JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Samuel Wilkins' <sound...@spwnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset I'm still using version 8. From time to time, I get a message from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: JOHN RIEHL Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:02 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Samuel Wilkins' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Version 9 has added the "banking" module. I believe there's a way not to get it or activate it, but I'm not sure. What I heard on the list a few months ago is to stick with version 8. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:19 AM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mbrown.brown4% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com. For
RE: Major Problem with Eset
Don't upgrade to Version 9. It is not accessible with screen readers. The new security feature, e.g. the added level of security when banking, is not yet useable with screen readers. Martin -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+mbrown.brown4=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:40 PM To: JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Samuel Wilkins' <sound...@spwnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset I'm still using version 8. From time to time, I get a message from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: JOHN RIEHL Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:02 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Samuel Wilkins' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Version 9 has added the "banking" module. I believe there's a way not to get it or activate it, but I'm not sure. What I heard on the list a few months ago is to stick with version 8. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:19 AM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: > I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? > > > > -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Major Problem with Eset > > Hello everyone, > > I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with > Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on > opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing > Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set > Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn > the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. > I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not > respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to > make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is > particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank > without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. > > -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mbrown.brown4% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
Are you currently using nod32 vversion 9? If so,howaccessible is it? -Original Message- From: Klaus Vielhauer via Talk Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 12:24 AM To: JOHN RIEHL ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset Hello, you can disable the banking in settings Klaus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: JOHN RIEHL via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:02 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Samuel Wilkins' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Version 9 has added the "banking" module. I believe there's a way not to get it or activate it, but I'm not sure. What I heard on the list a few months ago is to stick with version 8. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:19 AM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vielhau%40t-online.de. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
I'm still using version 8. From time to time, I get a message from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: JOHN RIEHL Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:02 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Samuel Wilkins' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Version 9 has added the "banking" module. I believe there's a way not to get it or activate it, but I'm not sure. What I heard on the list a few months ago is to stick with version 8. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:19 AM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
Hello, you can disable the banking in settings Klaus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: JOHN RIEHL via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:02 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Samuel Wilkins' Subject: RE: Major Problem with Eset Version 9 has added the "banking" module. I believe there's a way not to get it or activate it, but I'm not sure. What I heard on the list a few months ago is to stick with version 8. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:19 AM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vielhau%40t-online.de. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
You can add my dissatisfaction with Eset over this and other recent interface access problems with the product. I'm actually up for renewal, but with the release of version 9, I decided to completely remove NOD32 from my system and will not be renewing. I've always been a big fan of Eset from the beginning especially because of their past commitment to accessibility and have recommended them to others, etc. I guess they've chosen a different path (and so have I). On 9/28/2016 7:52 AM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: Thank you Albert and Lee. I'll get in contact with Eset and see what they can do. On 28/09/2016 12:42, Albert Toh wrote: Hi Samuel, I face a similar problem that you are facing. Regretably, Window-Eyes, as it is now, will not work with the secure Ibanking page. The work around would be to use an alternative screen reader such as NVDA, which works relatively well, if you can put up with some relatively minor accessibility issues. Albert -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:23 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Major Problem with Eset
Version 9 has added the "banking" module. I believe there's a way not to get it or activate it, but I'm not sure. What I heard on the list a few months ago is to stick with version 8. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:19 AM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: > I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? > > > > -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Major Problem with Eset > > Hello everyone, > > I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with > Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on > opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes > as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in > the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment > system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. > I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not > respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to > make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is > particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank > without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. > > -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
Interesting, I'm still running version 8 and haven't had that problem. Are you using version 9? -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:26 AM To: Samuel Wilkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset i don't know where it is in eset. but i had to exclude the windo eyes folder from being scanned to stop the faulse positives. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
The reason I ask, I want to know if nod32 version 9 is accessible as of yet. I'm still using version 8. I keep getting messages from nod32 about updating to version 9. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Major Problem with Eset
The newest version of Nod-32 has a "banking module" that supposedly helps protect on-line transactions from hacking. Unfortunately, it won't let you log into your bank until you tell it it's okay to do so. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:08 PM To: net bat; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset That's very strange, because for years, it worked well with window eyes and never said it was malware. It looks like they are slipping, not bringing window eyes into the updated versions! Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:26 PM To: Samuel Wilkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset i don't know where it is in eset. but i had to exclude the windo eyes folder from being scanned to stop the faulse positives. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: > I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? > > > > -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Major Problem with Eset > > Hello everyone, > > I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with > Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on > opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes > as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in > the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment > system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. > I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not > respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to > make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is > particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank > without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. > > -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton line.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/realman02%40ve rizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
That's very strange, because for years, it worked well with window eyes and never said it was malware. It looks like they are slipping, not bringing window eyes into the updated versions! Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:26 PM To: Samuel Wilkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset i don't know where it is in eset. but i had to exclude the windo eyes folder from being scanned to stop the faulse positives. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
i don't know where it is in eset. but i had to exclude the windo eyes folder from being scanned to stop the faulse positives. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Major Problem with Eset No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
No, I'm using the latest smart security. On 28/09/2016 14:28, Russ Kiehne wrote: I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
I would be interested in knowing, are you using nod32 version 9? -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
Thank you Albert and Lee. I'll get in contact with Eset and see what they can do. On 28/09/2016 12:42, Albert Toh wrote: Hi Samuel, I face a similar problem that you are facing. Regretably, Window-Eyes, as it is now, will not work with the secure Ibanking page. The work around would be to use an alternative screen reader such as NVDA, which works relatively well, if you can put up with some relatively minor accessibility issues. Albert -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:23 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
Hi Samuel, I face a similar problem that you are facing. Regretably, Window-Eyes, as it is now, will not work with the secure Ibanking page. The work around would be to use an alternative screen reader such as NVDA, which works relatively well, if you can put up with some relatively minor accessibility issues. Albert -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:23 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Major Problem with Eset Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/albert_ab_toh%40yahoo.com.sg. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Major Problem with Eset
Hi samuel, if you can get a helpline number for eset they are very wise with screen readers and will remotely access your pc and fix this for you. not sure which country you are in, but there is a customer number on their web page, and they are really really good. I have always found they know exactly what to do when a big problem like this appears. hope this helps. Lee, Emily my guiding furry snowflake and Chester and simba the feline fellas leehodge on dice world My wife is JessHodge on Dice world Follow me on Twitter Lee__Hodgson with two underlines between first and second names, and on audioboo user name leehodge ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Major Problem with Eset
Hello everyone, I am having a major problem with Eset which I can't solve with Window-Eyes. I am trying to log into my bank, but Eset insists on opening its secure banking payment system, and it is seeing Window-Eyes as a key logger threat. I don't know how to set Window-Eyes to be in the whitelist, and I can't get into Eset to turn the banking payment system off because Eset is now refusing to interface with Window-Eyes. I managed to open the advanced settings, but Window-Eyes will not respond to any tabbing or use of the arrow keys, so I can't check to make sure the enable use of graphics is turned off. This is particularly important, as I can't even check the amount in my bank without logging in. Can anyone help with this? Thank you. -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem with Eset Banking Payment Protection and Window-Eyes
if you are useing version 9 i would go back to vewrsion 8. i don't think version 9 is fully accessible yet. esset has recommended that screen reader users go back to version 8. *** i don't think this will have any effect on web pages. but there is an option to turn off the use of graphics in the setup screen when you press f5 when the eset screen is opened. -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 2:09 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Problem with Eset Banking Payment Protection and Window-Eyes Hello everyone, I have just upgraded my Eset smart security, which now comes with a banking payment protection programme. However, Window-Eyes and the protection programme do not seem to get along. I cannot use standard browse mode hotkeys, and when I type, I get very odd feedback, as though I am pressing the wrong keys. Does anyone know why this is happening? -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem with Eset Banking Payment Protection and Window-Eyes
Thank you Mark. I'll contact Eset and ask them for advice. On 01/07/2016 12:01, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote: Hi Samuel, It sounds like your Internet Security software has flagged Window-Eyes as a key logger threat and is blocking important functionality in the screen reader. We have seen other Internet Security programs do this. You should find out of there is a way to whitelist (exclude Window- Eyes from the list of programs being blocked) in Eset. Best, Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 1, 2016 5:10:44 AM Samuel Wilkins via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: Hello everyone, I have just upgraded my Eset smart security, which now comes with a banking payment protection programme. However, Window-Eyes and the protection programme do not seem to get along. I cannot use standard browse mode hotkeys, and when I type, I get very odd feedback, as though I am pressing the wrong keys. Does anyone know why this is happening? -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/soundsam%40spwnet.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem with Eset Banking Payment Protection and Window-Eyes
Hi Samuel, It sounds like your Internet Security software has flagged Window-Eyes as a key logger threat and is blocking important functionality in the screen reader. We have seen other Internet Security programs do this. You should find out of there is a way to whitelist (exclude Window- Eyes from the list of programs being blocked) in Eset. Best, Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 1, 2016 5:10:44 AM Samuel Wilkins via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have just upgraded my Eset smart security, which now comes with a > banking payment protection programme. However, Window-Eyes and the > protection programme do not seem to get along. I cannot use standard > browse mode hotkeys, and when I type, I get very odd feedback, as though > I am pressing the wrong keys. Does anyone know why this is happening? > > > -- > Regards, > > Samuel Wilkins > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40aisquared.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Problem with Eset Banking Payment Protection and Window-Eyes
Hello everyone, I have just upgraded my Eset smart security, which now comes with a banking payment protection programme. However, Window-Eyes and the protection programme do not seem to get along. I cannot use standard browse mode hotkeys, and when I type, I get very odd feedback, as though I am pressing the wrong keys. Does anyone know why this is happening? -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Has anyone used Eset nod32 v9 with Window Eyes?
Thanks, for the time being, I'll continue to use version 8. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 11:26 AM To: net...@comcast.net ; talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Has anyone used Eset nod32 v9 with Window Eyes? Version 8 still has the same protection as 9 as far as the Virus database goes, according to what tech support told me. Version 9 does contain some options for extra security on financial and banking sites. But the updating of virus protection is the same, regardless of which version of the interface you use, I was told. Elizabeth At 01:11 PM 3/26/2016, you wrote: it sounds like they are still working on it to make it accessible. 3 months ago they told me to stay with version 8 because it wasn't compatible with any screen reader. i would still wait a few more months before upgradeing. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 7:05 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Has anyone used Eset nod32 v9 with Window Eyes? The reason I ask, I see the following on the Eset download page: Download ESET NOD32 Antivirus This version has been tested with JAWS for screen reader compatibility. If you experience issues with other screen readers please let us know, or you can continue to use version 8 here ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Eset Security Suite Version 9
Did you disable the Graphical User Interface Under User Settings? Elizabeth At 04:09 PM 3/26/2016, you wrote: I tried using Eset V9 and found it to be very inaccessible so switched to V8. Maybe I will try V9 again in the future if improvements are made. Aloha, Alex -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+alex.liberty=hawaii.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 4:29 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Security Suite Version 9 I spoke with Eset about their message suggesting folks with screen readers use Version 8 if they experience problems. They said they have not yet tested Version 9 with screen readers. I have used their products for over five years. They are very responsive to user feedback, particularly from those of us using screen readers. You can always download a trial copy of version 9 and test it out. Please remember to uncheck the "use graphical user interface" option in Settings. F5 will get you to the settings options. Please report back to us on your Version 9 findings. Elizabeth ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alex.liberty%4 0hawaii.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Security Suite Version 9
Eset advises folks who use screen reading software to use V8. On 3/26/2016 5:09 PM, Alex Yray via Talk wrote: I tried using Eset V9 and found it to be very inaccessible so switched to V8. Maybe I will try V9 again in the future if improvements are made. Aloha, Alex -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+alex.liberty=hawaii.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 4:29 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Security Suite Version 9 I spoke with Eset about their message suggesting folks with screen readers use Version 8 if they experience problems. They said they have not yet tested Version 9 with screen readers. I have used their products for over five years. They are very responsive to user feedback, particularly from those of us using screen readers. You can always download a trial copy of version 9 and test it out. Please remember to uncheck the "use graphical user interface" option in Settings. F5 will get you to the settings options. Please report back to us on your Version 9 findings. Elizabeth ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alex.liberty%4 0hawaii.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jim.noseworthy%40compuconference.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Eset Security Suite Version 9
I tried using Eset V9 and found it to be very inaccessible so switched to V8. Maybe I will try V9 again in the future if improvements are made. Aloha, Alex -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+alex.liberty=hawaii.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 4:29 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Security Suite Version 9 I spoke with Eset about their message suggesting folks with screen readers use Version 8 if they experience problems. They said they have not yet tested Version 9 with screen readers. I have used their products for over five years. They are very responsive to user feedback, particularly from those of us using screen readers. You can always download a trial copy of version 9 and test it out. Please remember to uncheck the "use graphical user interface" option in Settings. F5 will get you to the settings options. Please report back to us on your Version 9 findings. Elizabeth ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alex.liberty%4 0hawaii.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Has anyone used Eset nod32 v9 with Window Eyes?
Version 8 still has the same protection as 9 as far as the Virus database goes, according to what tech support told me. Version 9 does contain some options for extra security on financial and banking sites. But the updating of virus protection is the same, regardless of which version of the interface you use, I was told. Elizabeth At 01:11 PM 3/26/2016, you wrote: it sounds like they are still working on it to make it accessible. 3 months ago they told me to stay with version 8 because it wasn't compatible with any screen reader. i would still wait a few more months before upgradeing. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 7:05 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Has anyone used Eset nod32 v9 with Window Eyes? The reason I ask, I see the following on the Eset download page: Download ESET NOD32 Antivirus This version has been tested with JAWS for screen reader compatibility. If you experience issues with other screen readers please let us know, or you can continue to use version 8 here ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Has anyone used Eset nod32 v9 with Window Eyes?
it sounds like they are still working on it to make it accessible. 3 months ago they told me to stay with version 8 because it wasn't compatible with any screen reader. i would still wait a few more months before upgradeing. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 7:05 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Has anyone used Eset nod32 v9 with Window Eyes? The reason I ask, I see the following on the Eset download page: Download ESET NOD32 Antivirus This version has been tested with JAWS for screen reader compatibility. If you experience issues with other screen readers please let us know, or you can continue to use version 8 here ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Eset Security Suite Version 9
I spoke with Eset about their message suggesting folks with screen readers use Version 8 if they experience problems. They said they have not yet tested Version 9 with screen readers. I have used their products for over five years. They are very responsive to user feedback, particularly from those of us using screen readers. You can always download a trial copy of version 9 and test it out. Please remember to uncheck the "use graphical user interface" option in Settings. F5 will get you to the settings options. Please report back to us on your Version 9 findings. Elizabeth ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Has anyone used Eset nod32 v9 with Window Eyes?
The reason I ask, I see the following on the Eset download page: Download ESET NOD32 Antivirus This version has been tested with JAWS for screen reader compatibility. If you experience issues with other screen readers please let us know, or you can continue to use version 8 here ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Eset Security Suite
Hi, It's not accessible here, even with JAWS. All the best Steve Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth via Talk Sent: 27 January 2016 20:30 To: g...@embarqmail.com; talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Eset Security Suite I know the interface is different in version 9 from version 8. Have you actually tried version 9 with Window-eyes? I ask because Eset thinks Version 9 may be accessible using the latest version of JAWS. They don't know how accessible Version 9 may be with the latest Window-eyes or NVDA. Elizabeth At 03:19 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: >Y3es. >It is not accessible. It is different than version 8. > > >Pastor Gil > >-Original Message- From: Elizabeth via Talk >Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:48 AM >To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >Subject: Eset Security Suite > >Have you actually tested Version 9 please? I spoke with Eset a couple >of weeks ago. The story on Version 9 of Eset Security Suite is that >Eset has not yet tested it for accessibility. It may, in fact, be >accessible, but they are not willing to say so. > >Elizabeth > >At 11:32 AM 1/27/2016, you wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Eset Version 5.2? You should be at least on 8 now if you are using Windows >>7. Apparently 9 is the only one to use in Windows 10, but it is not >>accessible. >> >>All the best >> >>Steve >> >>Computer Room Services >>77 Exeter Close >>Stevenage >>Hertfordshire >>SG1 4PW >>Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>Email: st...@comproom.co.uk >>Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] >>On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk >>Sent: 26 January 2016 16:20 >>To: t...@window-eyes.com >>Subject: Vipre >> >>Tried Vipre and decided to stay with Eset Smart Security version 5.2. >>It announces updates and is very screen reader friendly. >> >>Pastor Gil >>___ >>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >>and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >>For membership options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40comp ro >>om.co.uk. >>For subscription options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>List archives can be found at >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> >>___ >>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >>For membership options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40ea rthlink.net. >>For subscription options, visit >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>List archives can be found at >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >___ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >For membership options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarq mail.com. >For subscription options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >List archives can be found at >http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Security Suite
and is the f5 key still a way to make it accessible? At 01:41 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: I am assuming you know how to use the Mouse Navigation Keys and still found the Eset interface difficult. Elizabeth At 04:11 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Yes, It is very hard to navigate I think. I couldnât do anything with it. You might want to give it a try for yor self and see how it works. Pastor Gil From: <mailto:thot...@earthlink.net>Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:29 PM To: <mailto:g...@embarqmail.com>g...@embarqmail.com ; <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Eset Security Suite I know the interface is different in version 9 from version 8. Have you actually tried version 9 with Window-eyes? I ask because Eset thinks Version 9 may be accessible using the latest version of JAWS. They don't know how accessible Version 9 may be with the latest Window-eyes or NVDA. Elizabeth At 03:19 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Y3es. It is not accessible. It is different than version 8. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:48 AM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Security Suite Have you actually tested Version 9 please? I spoke with Eset a couple of weeks ago. The story on Version 9 of Eset Security Suite is that Eset has not yet tested it for accessibility. It may, in fact, be accessible, but they are not willing to say so. Elizabeth At 11:32 AM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Hi, Eset Version 5.2? You should be at least on 8 now if you are using Windows 7. Apparently 9 is the only one to use in Windows 10, but it is not accessible. All the best Steve Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: 26 January 2016 16:20 To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Vipre Tried Vipre and decided to stay with Eset Smart Security version 5.2. It announces updates and is very screen reader friendly. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Security Suite
Hi Robert, I have been using Version 8. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Robert Grimwood via Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 10:02 PM To: Elizabeth ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Eset Security Suite Dear Pastor Gil, I would strongly recommend that you return to version 8. It is annoying that we have to do such a thing; Eset really should know better. However, it is sometimes necessary to accept these setbacks. Version 8 is perfectly fine. Cheerio, Robert On 1/28/2016 12:35 AM, Elizabeth via Talk wrote: Were you at least able to disable the Graphical User Interface under Settings? At 05:20 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Yes. I couldn’t do anything with it. It is a completely different interface. I just got off the phone with a rep from Eset and he said that people with a screen reader should use version 8, because version 9 wasn’t screen reader friendly at this time. Pastor Gil From: <mailto:thot...@earthlink.net>Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:41 PM To: <mailto:g...@embarqmail.com>g...@embarqmail.com ; <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Eset Security Suite I am assuming you know how to use the Mouse Navigation Keys and still found the Eset interface difficult. Elizabeth At 04:11 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Yes, It is very hard to navigate I think. I couldn’t do anything with it. You might want to give it a try for yor self and see how it works. Pastor Gil From: <mailto:thot...@earthlink.net>Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:29 PM To: <mailto:g...@embarqmail.com>g...@embarqmail.com ; <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Eset Security Suite I know the interface is different in version 9 from version 8. Have you actually tried version 9 with Window-eyes? I ask because Eset thinks Version 9 may be accessible using the latest version of JAWS. They don't know how accessible Version 9 may be with the latest Window-eyes or NVDA. Elizabeth At 03:19 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Y3es. It is not accessible. It is different than version 8. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:48 AM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Security Suite Have you actually tested Version 9 please? I spoke with Eset a couple of weeks ago. The story on Version 9 of Eset Security Suite is that Eset has not yet tested it for accessibility. It may, in fact, be accessible, but they are not willing to say so. Elizabeth At 11:32 AM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Hi, Eset Version 5.2? You should be at least on 8 now if you are using Windows 7. Apparently 9 is the only one to use in Windows 10, but it is not accessible. All the best Steve Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: 26 January 2016 16:20 To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Vipre Tried Vipre and decided to stay with Eset Smart Security version 5.2. It announces updates and is very screen reader friendly. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author an
Re: Eset Security Suite
Were you at least able to disable the Graphical User Interface under Settings? At 05:20 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Yes. I couldnât do anything with it. It is a completely different interface. I just got off the phone with a rep from Eset and he said that people with a screen reader should use version 8, because version 9 wasnât screen reader friendly at this time. Pastor Gil From: <mailto:thot...@earthlink.net>Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:41 PM To: <mailto:g...@embarqmail.com>g...@embarqmail.com ; <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Eset Security Suite I am assuming you know how to use the Mouse Navigation Keys and still found the Eset interface difficult. Elizabeth At 04:11 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Yes, It is very hard to navigate I think. I couldnâÂÂt do anything with it. You might want to give it a try for yor self and see how it works. Pastor Gil From: <mailto:thot...@earthlink.net>Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:29 PM To: <mailto:g...@embarqmail.com>g...@embarqmail.com ; <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Eset Security Suite I know the interface is different in version 9 from version 8. Have you actually tried version 9 with Window-eyes? I ask because Eset thinks Version 9 may be accessible using the latest version of JAWS. They don't know how accessible Version 9 may be with the latest Window-eyes or NVDA. Elizabeth At 03:19 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Y3es. It is not accessible. It is different than version 8. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:48 AM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Security Suite Have you actually tested Version 9 please? I spoke with Eset a couple of weeks ago. The story on Version 9 of Eset Security Suite is that Eset has not yet tested it for accessibility. It may, in fact, be accessible, but they are not willing to say so. Elizabeth At 11:32 AM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Hi, Eset Version 5.2? You should be at least on 8 now if you are using Windows 7. Apparently 9 is the only one to use in Windows 10, but it is not accessible. All the best Steve Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: 26 January 2016 16:20 To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Vipre Tried Vipre and decided to stay with Eset Smart Security version 5.2. It announces updates and is very screen reader friendly. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Eset Security Suite
Have you actually tested Version 9 please? I spoke with Eset a couple of weeks ago. The story on Version 9 of Eset Security Suite is that Eset has not yet tested it for accessibility. It may, in fact, be accessible, but they are not willing to say so. Elizabeth At 11:32 AM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Hi, Eset Version 5.2? You should be at least on 8 now if you are using Windows 7. Apparently 9 is the only one to use in Windows 10, but it is not accessible. All the best Steve Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: 26 January 2016 16:20 To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Vipre Tried Vipre and decided to stay with Eset Smart Security version 5.2. It announces updates and is very screen reader friendly. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Security Suite
I know the interface is different in version 9 from version 8. Have you actually tried version 9 with Window-eyes? I ask because Eset thinks Version 9 may be accessible using the latest version of JAWS. They don't know how accessible Version 9 may be with the latest Window-eyes or NVDA. Elizabeth At 03:19 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Y3es. It is not accessible. It is different than version 8. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:48 AM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Security Suite Have you actually tested Version 9 please? I spoke with Eset a couple of weeks ago. The story on Version 9 of Eset Security Suite is that Eset has not yet tested it for accessibility. It may, in fact, be accessible, but they are not willing to say so. Elizabeth At 11:32 AM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Hi, Eset Version 5.2? You should be at least on 8 now if you are using Windows 7. Apparently 9 is the only one to use in Windows 10, but it is not accessible. All the best Steve Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: 26 January 2016 16:20 To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Vipre Tried Vipre and decided to stay with Eset Smart Security version 5.2. It announces updates and is very screen reader friendly. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Eset Security Suite
I am assuming you know how to use the Mouse Navigation Keys and still found the Eset interface difficult. Elizabeth At 04:11 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Yes, It is very hard to navigate I think. I couldnât do anything with it. You might want to give it a try for yor self and see how it works. Pastor Gil From: <mailto:thot...@earthlink.net>Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:29 PM To: <mailto:g...@embarqmail.com>g...@embarqmail.com ; <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Eset Security Suite I know the interface is different in version 9 from version 8. Have you actually tried version 9 with Window-eyes? I ask because Eset thinks Version 9 may be accessible using the latest version of JAWS. They don't know how accessible Version 9 may be with the latest Window-eyes or NVDA. Elizabeth At 03:19 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Y3es. It is not accessible. It is different than version 8. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Elizabeth via Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:48 AM To: Steve Nutt ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Eset Security Suite Have you actually tested Version 9 please? I spoke with Eset a couple of weeks ago. The story on Version 9 of Eset Security Suite is that Eset has not yet tested it for accessibility. It may, in fact, be accessible, but they are not willing to say so. Elizabeth At 11:32 AM 1/27/2016, you wrote: Hi, Eset Version 5.2? You should be at least on 8 now if you are using Windows 7. Apparently 9 is the only one to use in Windows 10, but it is not accessible. All the best Steve Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: 26 January 2016 16:20 To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Vipre Tried Vipre and decided to stay with Eset Smart Security version 5.2. It announces updates and is very screen reader friendly. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqmail.com . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Eset Security Essentials and Nod32
Before you dismiss Nod32 latest version outright, please check with Eset. It may be that changing a few settings makes it compatible. Certainly the latest version of Eset Security Suite is compatible and very workable with Window-eyes. Eset has a longstanding policy of paying attention to blind and low vision users and good customer relations with many of us. So you may want to use them for security. They charge but not much for what you get. Elizabeth At 08:43 PM 7/24/2015, you wrote: Dennis, I only recommend products to blind people which I know are accessible. If you go back through the list archives over the past couple of months, you will read about how accessible Eset Security Suite and Eset NOD32 are. Also the user support is very good. I first used NOD32 and later Eset and have used them for years. Elizabeth At 07:27 PM 7/24/2015, you wrote: Is eset accessible? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and Eset security
Running Eset smart security on my Win 10 64 bit machine. Eset keeps saying frequently used but I can not find this in the Eset user interface. Would like to disable it if possible. Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset security
Today got a notification about a free update that involves a re-designed interface. Has anyone tried it; is it still manageable? Thanks. Kathy. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:07 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE and Eset security Running Eset smart security on my Win 10 64 bit machine. Eset keeps saying frequently used but I can not find this in the Eset user interface. Would like to disable it if possible. Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/katya20707%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset security
this is a problem with w e. create and change the set file so the mouse will track focus and turn it on. these are eset options. and there are a couple of other such options that will repeat as you tab through them. but with track mouse with focus turned on, when you encounter these options press the number pad 5 and w e will speak what the mouse pointer is on then you can press enter on the options if you want to change something. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:07 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE and Eset security Running Eset smart security on my Win 10 64 bit machine. Eset keeps saying frequently used but I can not find this in the Eset user interface. Would like to disable it if possible. Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset security
Kathy, I just use Windows Defender which is packaged with Windows 8 and 10. It's free and works well for me and Vicki. Vicki should be coming home early next week. Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 10/21/2015 12:06 PM, Kathy Brandt via Talk wrote: Today got a notification about a free update that involves a re-designed interface. Has anyone tried it; is it still manageable? Thanks. Kathy. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:07 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE and Eset security Running Eset smart security on my Win 10 64 bit machine. Eset keeps saying frequently used but I can not find this in the Eset user interface. Would like to disable it if possible. Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/katya20707%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tinneyb%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset smart security
f5 usually helps. -- Curtis Delzer <curtis1...@verizon.net> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:13:55 -0500 Don H via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Are there any settings to make Eset Smart Security more speech friendly? > Just installed it on my Windows 10 system. > Thanks > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and Eset smart security
Are there any settings to make Eset Smart Security more speech friendly? Just installed it on my Windows 10 system. Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset smart security
Press F5 to get into settings. Disable the graphical user interface. At 01:13 PM 10/12/2015, you wrote: Are there any settings to make Eset Smart Security more speech friendly? Just installed it on my Windows 10 system. Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset smart security
press f5 and open use grafical interface and uncheck all the options. also when you create the set file open the mouse menu and turn on track mouse on. there several places where w e says the same thing for all the options for social ,scan files etc. with track mouse with focus turned on you can press the num pad 5 to read the real options that are underneath the mouse pointer. then you can click the mouse to activate those options. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:13 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE and Eset smart security Are there any settings to make Eset Smart Security more speech friendly? Just installed it on my Windows 10 system. Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE and Eset Smart Security
What makes you say that Microsoft is not updating MSE? I have it on my PcC, and it's updated automatically every day. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:01 PM To: brendoncdono...@icloud.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE and Eset Smart Security What other one is usable by window eyes, other than the ones by microsoft that they are not upgrading? Pam. -Original Message- From: brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:01 PM To: Mike Pietruk ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE and Eset Smart Security Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohu e%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton line.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riveranr% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
;it is updateing the virus definisions; but it is not updateing the program, which needs to be done several times per year because the definission files are not enough to block new threats. -Original Message- From: Josh Rivera via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 10:27 AM To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: WE and Eset Smart Security What makes you say that Microsoft is not updating MSE? I have it on my PcC, and it's updated automatically every day. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:01 PM To: brendoncdono...@icloud.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE and Eset Smart Security What other one is usable by window eyes, other than the ones by microsoft that they are not upgrading? Pam. -Original Message- From: brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:01 PM To: Mike Pietruk ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE and Eset Smart Security Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohu e%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton line.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/josh.riveranr% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
What other one is usable by window eyes, other than the ones by microsoft that they are not upgrading? Pam. -Original Message- From: brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:01 PM To: Mike Pietruk ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE and Eset Smart Security Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
I have it, and I can't do anything with it with window eyes. Pam. -Original Message- From: Don Mauck via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 6:00 PM To: Mike Pietruk ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Elizabeth Subject: RE: WE and Eset Smart Security Possibly AVG might be an alternative. -Original Message- From: Mike Pietruk via Talk [mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:36 PM To: Elizabeth; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE and Eset Smart Security Elizabeth None of the flagged items are WE related. It seems, both in my and my son's experience today, Eset flagged ole bunch of stuff without offering an option to deal with it. Cleaning less than 10% of what it found is hardly reassuring and so I think looking elsewhere may make sense. Like you, Elizabeth, I've been satisfied with ESET for years until this experience. And reading what I've mentioned on their website may indicate that the stand alone Eset Smart Security may be outmanned by the dangers out there. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/don.mauck%40oracle.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
Hi again, this is not a window eyes issue. It is the ante virus program.thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 1 Apr 2015, at 5:01 am, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE and Eset Smart Security
Make user that you can access all the menus. To be sure about that, press f5. -Original Message- From: Elizabeth via Talk [mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:18 PM To: Mike Pietruk; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE and Eset Smart Security Mike, I have used Eset Security Suite for years successfully with Window-eyes. I suggest you go to the particulathreat and hit the Windows Context key or F10 key and that may give you more choices. Sometimes Eset thinks things are threats which are not really full blown threats. For example, if I have a program which, when you install it, says it is going to install a tool bar unless I ask it not to do so, Eset might flag the program. This is the kind of thing which happens with freeware programs which come bundled with things. Hope this message makes sense. I know Brendon does his best to be helpful. But he does not specifically have experience with Eset products and so may not know about using the context menu right mouse click F10 option. Please let me know if this suggestion helps. Also, Eset is very helpful when I call them. You may want to give them a call and let them walk you through how to use the keyboard to get the info you want. If the keyboard access doesn't work, they are very willing to fix their own programs so that keyboard accesss is successful. Elizabeth At 09:49 AM 3/31/2015, you wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/don.mauck%40oracle.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
I'm just curious, do you mean that this virus package does not give options to clean up threats, but will only cleans a limited number it considers to be critical? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:05:52 +1000, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk wrote: Hi again, this is not a window eyes issue. It is the ante virus program.thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 1 Apr 2015, at 5:01 am, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue% 40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue% 40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson% 40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE and Eset Smart Security
Not at all. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk [mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:44 PM To: brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk Subject: Re: WE and Eset Smart Security I'm just curious, do you mean that this virus package does not give options to clean up threats, but will only cleans a limited number it considers to be critical? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:05:52 +1000, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk wrote: Hi again, this is not a window eyes issue. It is the ante virus program.thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 1 Apr 2015, at 5:01 am, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncd onohue% 40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncd onohue% 40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jac obson% 40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/don.mauck%40oracle.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
Mike, I have used Eset Security Suite for years successfully with Window-eyes. I suggest you go to the particulathreat and hit the Windows Context key or F10 key and that may give you more choices. Sometimes Eset thinks things are threats which are not really full blown threats. For example, if I have a program which, when you install it, says it is going to install a tool bar unless I ask it not to do so, Eset might flag the program. This is the kind of thing which happens with freeware programs which come bundled with things. Hope this message makes sense. I know Brendon does his best to be helpful. But he does not specifically have experience with Eset products and so may not know about using the context menu right mouse click F10 option. Please let me know if this suggestion helps. Also, Eset is very helpful when I call them. You may want to give them a call and let them walk you through how to use the keyboard to get the info you want. If the keyboard access doesn't work, they are very willing to fix their own programs so that keyboard accesss is successful. Elizabeth At 09:49 AM 3/31/2015, you wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and Eset Smart Security
I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
Steve In the past, my experience was similar to what Elizabeth described in her thoughtful and helpful reply. A couple of others, in private off-list replies, mentioned something somewhat disconcerting: Eset, on their website, now indicates that additional tools may be needed to be downloaded from their website to deal with certain threats. There is no charge for this; but certainly this makes the process somewhat more cumbersome and probably less thorough. So, this brings up the logical question: can folks out there suggest another security package that is both effective and thorough along with being WE friendly? The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher On Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote: I'm just curious, do you mean that this virus package does not give options to clean up threats, but will only cleans a limited number it considers to be critical? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:05:52 +1000, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk wrote: Hi again, this is not a window eyes issue. It is the ante virus program.thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 1 Apr 2015, at 5:01 am, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue% 40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue% 40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson% 40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pietruk%40panix.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
Mike, downloading additional tools from the Eset site is not something I have heard of before. I gather you paid for either Nod32 or Eset Security Suite for some period of time. If you did, you have access to their thorough customer support. They are familiar with screen readers, including Window-eyes. They have always provided me with customer service of the highest quality. You may want to speak with them and explain your concerns about the need for additional downloadable tools. i do understand you may need them to explain the use of such tools and the necessity for having them along with their already-paid for security package. Please let me know what they say to you. All the best, Elizabeth At 05:16 PM 3/31/2015, you wrote: Steve In the past, my experience was similar to what Elizabeth described in her thoughtful and helpful reply. A couple of others, in private off-list replies, mentioned something somewhat disconcerting: Eset, on their website, now indicates that additional tools may be needed to be downloaded from their website to deal with certain threats. There is no charge for this; but certainly this makes the process somewhat more cumbersome and probably less thorough. So, this brings up the logical question: can folks out there suggest another security package that is both effective and thorough along with being WE friendly? The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher On Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote: I'm just curious, do you mean that this virus package does not give options to clean up threats, but will only cleans a limited number it considers to be critical? Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:05:52 +1000, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk wrote: Hi again, this is not a window eyes issue. It is the ante virus program.thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 1 Apr 2015, at 5:01 am, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue% 40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue% 40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson% 40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pietruk%40panix.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi
RE: WE and Eset Smart Security
lSteve (and all) My sighted adult son is somewhat the computer geek. Following my experience, he decided to take a pc that he wanted to clean up and ran ESET on it. It found 200+ problems in a 2 or so hour scan of the main hd and a secondary drive, cleaned nothing, and gave him no ability that he could see to quarantine or remove anything. So, as he put it, it was little more than one of those that alerted you to problems but allowed you to take care of nothing. So, it appears something else is needed these days; so, as I asked in another thread reply, can folks suggest something that both seamlessly fixes things and is WE friendly? The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
Elizabeth None of the flagged items are WE related. It seems, both in my and my son's experience today, Eset flagged ole bunch of stuff without offering an option to deal with it. Cleaning less than 10% of what it found is hardly reassuring and so I think looking elsewhere may make sense. Like you, Elizabeth, I've been satisfied with ESET for years until this experience. And reading what I've mentioned on their website may indicate that the stand alone Eset Smart Security may be outmanned by the dangers out there. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
Those of you using Eset products, are Window-eyes components being flagged? I never have come across such behavior on the part of Eset during all the years I have used Eset Nod32 or Eset Security Suite. Elizabeth At 04:41 PM 3/31/2015, you wrote: Hi, No, what I mean is that antivirus packages probably detecting window eyes components! Disable it, rerun the scan, and see what happens! Thank you. Brendon Donohue ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Eset Smart Security
What's wrong with Eset? I find Nod32 to be one of the most reliable out there. On 3/31/2015 3:01 PM, brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk wrote: Hi, in my view, I would use another antivirus software and do another skin! Thank you. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 31 Mar 2015, at 11:49 pm, Mike Pietruk via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I just ran a virus scan using ESET. It found, say 25 threats, and indicated it cleaned 6 of them. I saw no choice in how to deal with the remaiing 19 such as to immediately delete them, quarantine them, whatever. Is this a WE issue, or am I missing something here. Thanks for guidance on this. The humble Christian is far happier in a cottage than the wicked in a palace. Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952), Scottish author and teacher ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sclark04%40twcny.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com