Re: window-eyes open source?

staff! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:33 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? But for those who cannot

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Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:33 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Josh Kennedy > Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? > > But for those who cannot afford Jaws they are left out. That is why FS > should make a low cost jaws rental program for maybe the price of a netflix

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y, September 11, 2017 3:09 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: David > Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? > > You know, I too am tempted to believe, NVDA will take over some screen > reader users. For one thing, as NVDA becomes yet more powerful, and > widely know

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route mouse to object, insert shift m. read the current line, numPad 8, or capslock shift period. On 9/12/2017 5:51 PM, BK via Talk wrote: David, please let me know what the NVDA keyboard command is to route the mouse to the focused object is, and also the command to read the line under the

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David, please let me know what the NVDA keyboard command is to route the mouse to the focused object is, and also the command to read the line under the mouse? thank you much. Butch -- BK ___ Any views or opinions presented in

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: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? But for those who cannot afford Jaws they are left out. That is why FS should make a low cost jaws rental program for maybe the price of a netflix subscription, and the more you pay then you can add friends onto your jaws account and let close

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insecure. IE 11, should only be used if it is an emergency! Have a great one! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 6:29 PM To: mcommerf...@comcast.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Could

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time moves on, we likely will >> slide in the background. Tomorrow's user, likely won't need Jaws, and >> can enjoy a heavy good load of donuts and coffee, for the 1200 saved. :) >> >> >> David >> >> On 9/11/2017 12:54 AM, Loy via Talk wro

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: David via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:09 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? You know, I too am tempted to believe, NVDA will take over some screen reader users. For one thing, as NVDA becomes yet more powerful, and widely known

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Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 6:29 PM To: mcommerf...@comcast.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Could be a number of reasons, why the one screen reader works better than the other, in a given

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won't need Jaws, and >> can enjoy a heavy good load of donuts and coffee, for the 1200 saved. :) >> >> >> David >> >> On 9/11/2017 12:54 AM, Loy via Talk wrote: >>> NVDA is not far from being as good as JAWS and  I can see it happening that p

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PM Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Why couldn't it happen? On 9/10/2017 3:47 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > I don't see that happening. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On

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+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:41 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: Josh Kennedy <joshuakennedy...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? let me correct myself her

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I think a FS thinks they are above the rules. lol -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:51 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: RE: window-eyes open source? The problem is that FS has too much of a monopoly

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. -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? yes, and as far as donating I would rather donate my money to the NVDA project rather than giving it to VFO and spend

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. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:42 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA works with dragon naturally

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To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? yes, and as far as donating I would rather donate my money to the NVDA project rather than giving it to VFO and spend money on tons of jaws bells and whistles I'll mostly never use. On 9/10/2017 6:54 PM, Loy via

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Agree with you! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marvin Commerford via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:59 AM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Marvin Commerford Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Big

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David, right on the money if I dare say so! How I wish NVDA would PUSH something to Android! It would certainly give Voice Views, Voice Assistant, ShinePlus and Talkback an interesting challenge and may be help those who already use it bring their own screen reader of choice to Android land!

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Big surprise! You've clearly demonstrated over time that you want something for nothing. Harping on WE becoming open source has as much chance of being successful as all of us getting sight. This nagging behavior sometimes works for children with exhausted parents but this case is much

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: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA works with dragon naturally speaking, and windows speech recognition, and it does it for free, with an addon called dictation bridge. with jaws you have to pay an extra $400 or so for that functionality. On 9/10/2017 11:51 PM, Sky Mundell via

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lk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Singing Sparrow via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 6:05 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Singing Sparrow Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? To Be honest with you nvda has a place for people wherejaws will not be ab

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alk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:23 PM Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Why couldn't it happen? On 9/10/2017 3:47 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > I don't see that happening. > > -Orig

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: window-eyes open source? It is far from being as good as jaws! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:55 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Re: window-eyes

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via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:55 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA is not far from being as good as JAWS and I can see it happening that people will download the free program instead of paying hundreds of dollars for a very similar

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=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:55 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA is not far from being as good as JAWS and I can see it happening that people will download the free program

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isl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf > Of Josh Kennedy via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:08 PM >> To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Josh Kennedy >> Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? >> >> I wonde

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Iagree. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 11:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Just because

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es+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:51 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: Dennis Long > Subject: RE: window-eyes open source? > > It is far from being as good as jaws! > > -Original

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' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: window-eyes open source? It is far from being as good as jaws! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:55 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc

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It is far from being as good as jaws! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:55 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA

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When did you hear this and where is the proof that VFO wants to buy NVDA? On 9/10/2017 7:06 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: where did you hear that from? and how can they purchase an open source product under the gpl? On 9/10/2017 7:15 PM, ratshtron via Talk wrote: don't push it! i have

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where did you hear that from? and how can they purchase an open source product under the gpl? On 9/10/2017 7:15 PM, ratshtron via Talk wrote: don't push it! i have heard that they are wanting to purchase nvda and thus killing it as well. Legend has it that on Sunday 9/10/2017 12:07 PM,

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edy via Talk > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:08 PM > To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Josh Kennedy > Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? > > I wonder what VFO would do if NVDA starting eating into their business profits? If free open source NVDA woul

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Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:08 PM To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? I wonder what VFO would do if NVDA starting eating into their business profits? If free open source NVDA would become way more popular than jaws

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Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? I wonder what VFO would do if NVDA starting eating into their business profits? If free open source NVDA would become way more popular than jaws and would still be open source? On 9/10/2017 2:54 AM, David wrote: Matter of fact, this question was raised

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don't push it! i have heard that they are wanting to purchase nvda and thus killing it as well. Legend has it that on Sunday 9/10/2017 12:07 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk said: I wonder what VFO would do if NVDA starting eating into their business profits?

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Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:23 PM Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Why couldn't it happen? On 9/10/2017 3:47 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > I don't see that happening. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+denni

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-- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:08 PM >> To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Josh Kennedy >> Subject: Re: window

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; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? I wonder what VFO would do if NVDA starting eating into their business profits? If free open source NVDA would become way more popular than jaws and would still be open source? On 9/10/2017 2:54 AM, David

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NVDA doesn't have to market its product very much these days, social media and things like that probably get the product out there. On 9/10/2017 2:38 PM, Nick Sarames wrote: That's a lot to ask of a non-profit making institution which likely does not have the budget to market its product.

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Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? then how does NVDA work the way it does? and how is it so successful? On 9/9/2017 9:37 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > Your board of directors would not allow you to spend a pile of money > to purchase your comp

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I don't see that happening. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:08 PM To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open

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That's a lot to ask of a non-profit making institution which likely does not have the budget to market its product. On 9/10/2017 1:07 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: > I wonder what VFO would do if NVDA starting eating into their business > profits? If free open source NVDA would become way

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I wonder what VFO would do if NVDA starting eating into their business profits? If free open source NVDA would become way more popular than jaws and would still be open source? On 9/10/2017 2:54 AM, David wrote: Matter of fact, this question was raised a couple of days after the

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: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? if I no longer cared about the product then yes I probably would turn around and just open source it. if the product was no longer supported by my business I'd just tell people do what you want with it, we moved on. take it apart, open source

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Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 9:40 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Josh Kennedy > Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? > > then how does NVDA work the way it does? and how is it so successful? > > >

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Matter of fact, this question was raised a couple of days after the anouncement of the discontinued development of WinEyes. I will get back to what Doug said back then. First of all, let's take a quick look at facts. Had it been as easy as WinEyes would have been a stand-alone software, with

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What about termites that live in the court room? is that what you said? I guess termites could live in courtrooms, couldn't they? On 9/9/2017 10:37 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: NVDA is fine to use. I like its business model better than VFO's business model. On 9/9/2017 10:14 PM, mr.

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NVDA is fine to use. I like its business model better than VFO's business model. On 9/9/2017 10:14 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo via Talk wrote: your brakeing the law! you court room jude judy or juje patricia dimigao in the court room On 9/9/17, Tom Kingston via Talk

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your brakeing the law! you court room jude judy or juje patricia dimigao in the court room On 9/9/17, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > Your question makes absolutely no sense in the context of this > discussion. NVDA's business model has no correlation to VFO's

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Your question makes absolutely no sense in the context of this discussion. NVDA's business model has no correlation to VFO's ownership of Window-Eyes. On 9/9/2017 9:40 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote: then how does NVDA work the way it does? and how is it so successful? On 9/9/2017 9:37 PM, Tom

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It didn't start out with the same business model as window eyes did. Pam. -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 9:40 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? then how does NVDA work the way

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that you would spend the money on it, then give it away? Pam.-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 9:19 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? if I no longer cared about the product then yes I

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then how does NVDA work the way it does? and how is it so successful? On 9/9/2017 9:37 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Your board of directors would not allow you to spend a pile of money to purchase your competitor and then allow you to put that competitor right back in business against

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Your board of directors would not allow you to spend a pile of money to purchase your competitor and then allow you to put that competitor right back in business against you. And no business owner with a drop of sense would want to do it anyway. Businesses like Apple, google, and Microsoft buy

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if I no longer cared about the product then yes I probably would turn around and just open source it. if the product was no longer supported by my business I'd just tell people do what you want with it, we moved on. take it apart, open source it, whatever. we do not care. On 9/9/2017 9:14

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No. Think about it. If you were in business and bought your number one competitor would you turn around and give it away for someone else to continue its development? On 9/9/2017 9:01 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: hi Is there any possibility since window eyes is no longer supported to

window-eyes open source?

hi Is there any possibility since window eyes is no longer supported to get the window-eyes source code make it open source and put it up on the github website? then other developers could keep developing window eyes. -- sent with mozilla thunderbird