Re: [talk-ph] First Philippine mapping party

2009-02-24 Thread maning sambale
Eugene - not Feb 28 Michael Cole - March 14 Maning - changed to March 14 IanLopez - March 7 or 14 Anybody else? I have 2 gps units (1 from the gostogo) I can share. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:30 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Why not? We could rent a horse. ;) On Thu,

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM shortcuts/macro for Gaza editing

2009-02-24 Thread Chris Browet
Don't know about JOSM, but in Merkaartor, we have such things as templates. You could tweak the default templates (xml files) to add a constant tag source=OSM WikiProject Gaza for each (or some) features you add. - Chris - On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:14 PM, LeedsTracker

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/24 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Monday 23 February 2009 19:52:37 LeedsTracker wrote: E.g. I take a photo of a level crossing, locate in in Google Maps, upload and tag it in WikiMedia Commons - no problem it seems. Is this different from using the same method to adjust the

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/2/24 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Monday 23 February 2009 19:52:37 LeedsTracker wrote: E.g. I take a photo of a level crossing, locate in in Google Maps, upload and tag it in WikiMedia Commons - no problem it seems. Is this different from using the same method to adjust the

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/23 Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com: Am Montag 23 Februar 2009 schrieb Dave Stubbs: 2009/2/22 Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com: Am Sonntag 22 Februar 2009 schrieb Dave Stubbs: You could just /not/ run a bot on it. Seriously, these tag correcting bots can be really annoying.

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/23 Yann Coupin y...@coupin.net: Le 23 févr. 09 à 11:26, Dave Stubbs a écrit : So my question is this: given that there /are/ two tags in use, why go to all the effort to change it? Document both and be done with it. And this is helping the data not to turn into a pile of grey goo,

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
The tag page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:foot refers to the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access page that you mentioned. This then would seem to make foot=yes unavailable as a description of the physical nature of the way and to duplicate foot=designated. What would we

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
Hi Just replied to Someoneelse's posting and copied it to you as well as to the list ... The 'Essex Way' waymarks are a good example of Type 2 (see my earlier posting); the yellow and blue ones are consistent with the Type 1 waymarking colour scheme. A 'byway' may be a BOAT or a RB and thus red

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/23 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:46:09 +0100, Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com wrote: because... 1. ... every application trying to use the data has to deal with several taggings for the same thing. that's an unnecessary waste of resources. a script

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
... I can relate to that really well! But when it comes to bull=yes you should (a) make sure that you can run faster than the bull, and then (b) report it to the Highway Authority - unless the bull in question is either under ten months old or of a recognised dairy breed and at large with cows or

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/2/24 Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk: 2009/2/24 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Monday 23 February 2009 19:52:37 LeedsTracker wrote: E.g. I take a photo of a level crossing, locate in in Google Maps, upload and tag it in WikiMedia Commons - no problem it seems. Is this

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Dave Stubbs wrote: What you want is this: a validation tool so that users with a brain can figure it out for themselves. I think that the tagging view in the OSM Inspector (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/) is already quite a good start for such a validation tool. The OSMI is based on the

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM shortcuts/macro for Gaza editing

2009-02-24 Thread Kærast
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:14:53 + LeedsTracker leedstrac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, When adding roads, I default to highway=road and source=OSM WikiProject Gaza - I think source is useful for future reference when adding from satellite imagery (inc Yahoo's). I could do with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Donald Allwright
Please don't use Google Maps when doing OSM. It's just not worth the risk. I understand that this is a safe and wise rule, but as Wikimedia Commons' site suggests (and Nic's reply, commenting on talk-legal discussions), there may be a fair use (or fair dealing) for rectifying the location of an

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread David Earl
On 24/02/2009 09:58, LeedsTracker wrote: Please don't use Google Maps when doing OSM. It's just not worth the risk. I understand that this is a safe and wise rule, but as Wikimedia Commons' site suggests (and Nic's reply, commenting on talk-legal discussions), there may be a fair use (or

[OSM-talk] CanVec2osm Beta version 0.01 now available

2009-02-24 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all,The CanVec2osm Beta version 0.01 is now available for review. (if you are interested in helping edit the script, i can place it in the SVN, so for now it's read-only as to avoid confusion) http://www.acrosscanadatrails.com/Home/canvec2osm0_01.zip Please do NOT upload any data, as its still

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Ulf Lamping
Dave Stubbs schrieb: 2. ... it is easier for new mappers to have one documented tag for one feature, instead of having to choose... Fine, no problem. I said document both, not recommend both. document both IS recommend both! ULFL - who thinks that having already hundreds (literally!)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Open Database Licence (ODbL)

2009-02-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jordan S Hatcher wrote: I know everyone really wants to see the latest draft and have an opportunity to discuss it. If you can just give me a bit of time, I'll have something for you next week. Any news? Not meant as a nag, we're just all in an eager state of anticipation. :) cheers

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Someoneelse
This then would seem to make foot=yes unavailable as a description of the physical nature of the way and to duplicate foot=designated. The Key:access wiki uses the word preferred when describing designated. I can see the point with regard to e.g. truck routes, but less so for English and

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/24 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Dave Stubbs schrieb: 2. ... it is easier for new mappers to have one documented tag for one feature, instead of having to choose... Fine, no problem. I said document both, not recommend both. document both IS recommend both!

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
Hi The Key:access wiki uses the word preferred when describing designated. I can see the point with regard to e.g. truck routes, but less so for English and Welsh footpaths. The case for =designated as opposed to =yes is probably best made by one of the proponents of that tag (I think that

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
mess for someone who wants to use our data. Can't hear that argument 'let the application developers decide what they want' any longer! Looks like an holy war is gone start. Let's try however to keep it low. But I'm a part of that war against duplicates tags. Quoting Dave : Handeling

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: I can't rembember how many (oneway='yes' or oneway='true' or oneway='1') there are in the mapnik style's sheets I use. not talking about tunnel='yes', bridge='yes', and of course the later amenity='doctor(s)' We could also create a preprocessor that

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Ulf Lamping
Dave Stubbs schrieb: 2009/2/24 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Dave Stubbs schrieb: 2. ... it is easier for new mappers to have one documented tag for one feature, instead of having to choose... Fine, no problem. I said document both, not recommend both. document both IS recommend

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/24 sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org: mess for someone who wants to use our data. Can't hear that argument 'let the application developers decide what they want' any longer! Looks like an holy war is gone start. Let's try however to keep it low. But I'm a part of that war against

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
We could also create a preprocessor that unifies OSM data. I've been thinkink a lot about an osm pré-processor, but not to solve the problem you mentionned. The main problem, to my point of vue, in the duplicates tag case, is not at developper/renderer side, but at begginers learning to

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
I'd document both for a while, ha ? then why ? If we don't start by a little effort of at least stopping to mentionned them, we will never go forward, don't you think ? Document rather than recommend. The point being that if someone is asking the question, what is amenity=doctor? they should

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
a) that's not a quote, it's a paraphrase. b) you're taking it out of context. Sorry for that, but that wasn't a paraphrase either, that was the way I understood it. weren't there. That doesn't mean we run a bot. Totally agreed, I didn't mentionned we should (or at worst not before a

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/24 sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org: We could also create a preprocessor that unifies OSM data. I've been thinkink a lot about an osm pré-processor, but not to solve the problem you mentionned. The main problem, to my point of vue, in the duplicates tag case, is not at

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
document both IS recommend both! amenity=doctors - A doctor's surgery. smallerNote: people have also used amenity=doctor for this./smaller Wow. Hard. Hmmm. And that is more helpful for anyone going to use this tag (mapping or rendering or ...) than simply saying: amenity=doctors - A

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Ed Loach
Dave quoted sly: I'm in favor of disussion, describing only one, removing the others from any documentation, removing slowly support in renderers and slowly, replace old values by new values. And replied: That sounds like a more sensible way of handling it. I'd document both for a

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? other duplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
I now see that yes/true/1/no/false/0/-1 are all listed. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features#Restrictions I feel that this is a mistake and that yes/no/-1 should be put back in the value column so that maplint *will* highlight the ways using the old accepted values so that

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Actually that raises another issue (notwithstanding the point below) - in cases where the legal status is only available on either a copyright map (either bought or on the wall at the local council) - it's sometimes not possible to know what the legal status of all traffic on e.g. a former

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? otherduplicate tags [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
Dave says: I wrote it to do some more complex duplicate removal for the cycle map (as a pre-processor before osm2pgsql). The key one being highway=path, bicycle=yes which as far as I can tell is a duplicate of highway=cycleway. It's not actually rolled out yet though I keep meaning to do the

[OSM-talk] Bother

2009-02-24 Thread Ed Loach
I just deleted a way when I was trying to delete a node (using Potlatch). I tried the undo button but undid the addition of a postbox node rather than the deletion of the way. How can I find the way to get it back? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.505937lon=-0.026913zoom=18layers=B000FTF

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Sorry, belated reply to this, didn't realise the thread was about this topic. I guess I'm the oldest of the OSM countryside mappers, having been involved in open countryside mapping since Mar 2004 (via my own Freemap project, now using OSM data) and OSM since a year later, so... As what might

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
This then would seem to make foot=yes unavailable as a description of the physical nature of the way and to duplicate foot=designated. What would we then use to describe the physical nature? Similarly if bicycle=yes (even if we already have an option of bicycle=designated) means that bicycles

Re: [OSM-talk] Bother

2009-02-24 Thread Ed Loach
I asked: How can I find the way to get it back? A wiki search found the answer in the Potlatch Primer: U. All sorted (and the postbox re-added), I think. Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/2/24 Donald Allwright donald_allwri...@yahoo.com: Please don't use Google Maps when doing OSM. It's just not worth the risk. I understand that this is a safe and wise rule, but as Wikimedia Commons' site suggests (and Nic's reply, commenting on talk-legal discussions), there may be a fair

Re: [OSM-talk] imports pending?

2009-02-24 Thread Simone Cortesi
2009/2/23 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com: I'm thinking that it would be helpful if people who are working on bulk imports could tell people that such things might happen.  A mapper in the Boston area asked me if water features in the Boston area are going to be imported.  If not, he'll work on

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Someoneelse
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_use I'm guessing that the spelling mistake on the front page (Devirative works) is an Easter Egg to stop anyone copying it... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
Hi Fwiw - I hold the view that the OS cannot own the status in any way as it is the Highway Authority that decides / maintains the status. The only way the OS even know about the status is by the Highway Authority telling them - as they do (and a few years later the OS *might* amend their

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
Nick Yes - I think we are basically in agreement. You were there already - I am fast getting there, in part with the assistance of this dialogue via the list. (Btw - you are of course right about bridleway tagging if =designated is to be used then it should be used both for foot= and horse= - my

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
Nick Again I find myself in almost complete agreement with you. I found highway=cycleway a particularly difficult concept given that bicycle rights are somewhat ill-defined in rights-of-way lore (notwithstanding the 1968 Countryside Act). I would have wanted to use it only for cycle lanes beside

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com wrote: Nick Again I find myself in almost complete agreement with you. I found highway=cycleway a particularly difficult concept given that bicycle rights are somewhat ill-defined in rights-of-way lore (notwithstanding the

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
LeedsTracker wrote: I do. To be clear, I'm not advocating using Gmaps/G-earth for OSM, I was just puzzled by the (apparently unproblematic) use of it in Wikimedia and wondered if a parallel use was justifiable. Put yourself in the shoes of Google's lawyers - and, more significantly, those of

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Dienstag 24 Februar 2009 schrieb Dave Stubbs: 1. ... every application trying to use the data has to deal with several taggings for the same thing. that's an unnecessary waste of resources. a script running on the database can minimize this waste, and furthermore, can fix typos in tags,

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread David Earl
On 24/02/2009 17:02, Mike Harris wrote: Fwiw - I hold the view that the OS cannot own the status in any way as it is the Highway Authority that decides / maintains the status. The only way the OS even know about the status is by the Highway Authority telling them - as they do (and a few years

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread brendan barrett
I have to say i'm siding with those in favour of validation as well. Not for everything, but at the very least some kind of spell checking utility when uploading from the editors. I've seen a number of spelling mistakes when residential was clearly the intended tag value. I have nearly uploaded

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Guenther Meyer wrote: it may be trivial, but when you have to do this for every possible tag with some variations, it's a waste of time, that should not be necessary. parsing the osm xml files is already a ressource consuming task; every unnecessary work should be omitted. Maybe, but you

Re: [OSM-talk] Locating objects in Google Maps/Earth

2009-02-24 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 04:00:22PM +, LeedsTracker wrote: The concept of fair use is something which differs from one jurisdiction to another. [snip] I know, though the principle is in UK law: http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_use That page is a little misleading.

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Dienstag 24 Februar 2009 schrieb Richard Fairhurst: Guenther Meyer wrote: it may be trivial, but when you have to do this for every possible tag with some variations, it's a waste of time, that should not be necessary. parsing the osm xml files is already a ressource consuming task;

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
Not quite the case ... Are the grid references derived by the Highway Authority from the OS maps or from their own GPS surveys that they (the Highway Authority) carry out themselves on every right of way? Pre-GPS you might have a point - but with the use of GPS technology, not only by us but also

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Harris
... fair comment ... the English/Welsh system is indeed pretty much unique - so the two level key is not a bad idea - apart from the large number of paths already tagged! (:) Mike Harris _ From: Gustav Foseid [mailto:gust...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 February 2009 17:41 To: osm Subject:

[OSM-talk] Canvec2osm -264 tags needed to be confirmed

2009-02-24 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, i'm working from the 11 wiki charts, and have most of it done, but i feel i need at least 1 person to varify that they approve each of the sugested tag(s). I will make an extra column in each chart for this. (i think it will help) Cheers, Sam

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] beschikbaarheid van fietskaart nl

2009-02-24 Thread Rob
hier werkt het wel.. (met firefox) Groeten Rob Op 23 februari 2009 23:07 schreef ivom ivo.vdmaagdenb...@pandora.be het volgende: Kan het zijn dat ik iets heb gemist en dat de fietskaart tegenwoordig ergens anders te vinden is? Of gaat er iets fout met de server waar de data vandaan moet

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] beschikbaarheid van fietskaart nl

2009-02-24 Thread Roeland Douma
Het is werkt weer. Door een update van cherokee en iets met python was een van de env variabele die gebruikt werd niet meer beschikbaar. Nu werkt alles weer... als het goed is :P --Roeland On Tuesday 24 February 2009 13:44:22 Rob wrote: hier werkt het wel.. (met firefox) Groeten Rob Op 23

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] beschikbaarheid van fietskaart nl

2009-02-24 Thread ivom
Ok, ik was even een beetje bezorgd dat die prima fietskaartpagina of zijn makers de geest hadden gegeven. Het werkt inderdaad weer naar behoren. Ik heb net het resultaat van het toevoegen van mijn fietsroute kunnen quality checken: handig die overlays! Dank voor het goede werk! On Tue, 24

Re: [talk-au] suburb boundaries

2009-02-24 Thread Franc Carter
The data will be tagged as reviewed=no to indicate that a person has no confirmed that it is 'correct'. In the case if the Suburb boundaries I doubt it is actually possible to confirm the majority of the data 'on the ground' as their is no magical line on the ground. The data that will be

Re: [Talk-de] OT: GPX tracks mit Openlayers darstellen

2009-02-24 Thread Nop
Hi! Karl Eichwalder schrieb: Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de writes: Mit Hilfe von crschmidt auf dem Openlayers IRC-Channel hab ichs hinbekommen: http://geggus.net/gmaps/ka-hd.html Wie bei mir funktioniert auch da der Permalink nicht (mehr) wirklich. Die Werte werden zwar in

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenz zum Überlagern von geografisch en Informationen/flosm.de wieder Online

2009-02-24 Thread Detlev Reiners
Jens Müller schrieb: Was gibt es dadran zu erfinden? Muß ja ein ziemlich einfältiger Mensch sein, dieser Sean Phelan. Bei einem erteilten Patent hat der zuständige Prüfer des Patentamtes entschieden, ob das Patent die nötige Erfindungshöhe hat, ob es schon vorher eine solche Erfindung gegeben

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradstraße.

2009-02-24 Thread Mario Salvini
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: Am 24. Februar 2009 00:09 schrieb Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de: Der motorisierte Verkehrsteilnehmer sieht den Ausbau des Weges und erkennt ohne das Schild nciht, dass es eigenltich nur (nach Verkehrsrecht) ein Radweg ist. und so geht es

[Talk-de] Mapnik und Sportanlagen.

2009-02-24 Thread Thomas Drebert
Hallo, hier in Berlin sind mehrere Sportanlagen gemappt, welche von Mapnik schlecht gerendert werden weil immer zum schluß der leisure=stadium oder leisure=sports_centre über alles rüber gerendert wird, kann man da nicht mal was ändern?

Re: [Talk-de] Höhennetz/Höhendatenbank

2009-02-24 Thread Dimitri Junker
Also errechnest Du zu jeder Abweichung den Gewichtungsfaktor zum Mittelwert? Nein, bisher bilde ich nur den Mittelwert, als nächstes schaue ich mir nochmal die Seite mit den Infos zu den GPS-Meßfehlern an und versuche dann jedem Trackpunkt einen statistischen Fehler zuzuweisen in Abhängigkeit

Re: [Talk-de] Höhenkarte für Aachen

2009-02-24 Thread Dimitri Junker
Hallo, auch auf die Gefahr hin, dass Du es schon längst wusstest: Hier gibts alle GPS-Traces mit dem Tag aachen: wußte ich nicht. Werde ich mir holen, aber trotzdem sind mir Traces mit den Zusatzinfos noch lieber. Dimitri ___ Talk-de mailing list

[Talk-de] Frage zur Rules-Beschreibung in KOSMOS

2009-02-24 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! ich habe mir eine Vorlage etwas abgewandelt für die Darstellung von Geschwindigkeitsangaben. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:L%C3%BCbeck/Kosmos-rules-MaxSpeed Kann mir einer von Euch sagen, warum z.b. maxspeed=30 jetzt nicht mehr grün dargestellt wird. Irgendetwas muss ich

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLayers oder SlippyMap Programmierung - wie geht das?

2009-02-24 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hallo Holger, erste Grundlagen für OpenLayers sind u.a. hier zu finden http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Germany/Workshops/Baukasten_Webanwendungen gruß Jan :-) Holger Schrader schrieb: Hallo Liste, Ich habe da so eine Idee für eine SlippyMap, habe aber absolut Null Ahnung wie

Re: [Talk-de] Höhenkarte für Aachen

2009-02-24 Thread Dimitri Junker
Hallo, http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/aachen Toll, und wie lade ich die? Es sind 202 Seiten mit 20 Traces/Seite also etwa 4000, die möchte ich ungerne einzeln per Hand laden. Ich vermute die Standardantwort ist php o.ä. aber damit kenne ich mich zu wenig aus. Dimitri

Re: [Talk-de] Höhenkarte für Aachen

2009-02-24 Thread Matthias Brandt
Dimitri Junker wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/aachen Toll, und wie lade ich die? Es sind 202 Seiten mit 20 Traces/Seite also etwa 4000, die möchte ich ungerne einzeln per Hand laden. Ich vermute die Standardantwort ist php o.ä. aber damit kenne ich mich zu wenig aus.

Re: [Talk-de] Bodenfreiheit - Barrier?

2009-02-24 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Einige Feldwege weiter war der Ausgang versperrt mit einem Erdwall von etwa 3m Breite, 1m Tiefe und 50cm Höhe. Das klingt fuer micht jetzt erstmal so, als ob der Weg da unterbrochen werden sollte. Das wuerde bedeuten, dass man (mit Fahrzeug) da also gar nicht mehr lang darf/soll, die

[Talk-de] Namefinder - Grenzbereiche

2009-02-24 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Hallo, Über die Lokalisierungsvorschläge des Namefinders auf openstreetmap.org ist ja schon hier und da gemöppert worden. Ich habe mir das Frankfurt-Ergebnis von Heute nochmal anschaut: Results from OpenStreetMap Namefinder -City, about 9km north-west of Offenbach -Town Frankfurt, less than

Re: [Talk-de] Bodenfreiheit - Barrier?

2009-02-24 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Torsten Leistikow: Das klingt fuer micht jetzt erstmal so, als ob der Weg da unterbrochen werden sollte. Das wuerde bedeuten, dass man (mit Fahrzeug) da also gar nicht mehr lang darf/soll, die zustaendige Stelle lediglich die Kosten fuer einen

Re: [Talk-de] Namefinder - Grenzbereiche

2009-02-24 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Am 24.02.2009 16:24, Johann H. Addicks: Hallo, Über die Lokalisierungsvorschläge des Namefinders auf openstreetmap.org ist ja schon hier und da gemöppert worden. Ich habe mir das Frankfurt-Ergebnis von Heute nochmal anschaut: Results from OpenStreetMap Namefinder -City, about 9km

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradstraße.

2009-02-24 Thread Gerrit Lammert
Ich wollt mich hier eigentlich nicht einschalten, aber ein paar Anmerkungen müssen jetzt doch sein. :) On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:30:31 +0100, Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de wrote: Ein ganz normale Rad-Straße ohne Einschränkung ist auch am Besten als Radweg in den Karten verzeichnet, weil

Re: [Talk-de] Namefinder - Grenzbereiche

2009-02-24 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Claudius Henrichs schrieb: Deine Verbesserungsvorschläge sind jederzeit willkommen. Du musst es ja nicht gleich implementieren. Aber wenn es dich so abschreckt kannst du dir ja mal ein paar Nachmittage Gedanken machen. Ich verfolge z.B. seit einiger Zeit Abkürzungen für den Namefinder.

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradstraße. Proposal

2009-02-24 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Robert Joop schrieb: ich hab mir grad mal drei fahrradstraßen hier angeguckt: weder in mapnik, osmarender oder cycle map ist eine von ihnen erkennbar! Hm, ja und? Ist halt ein Fehler in der Anwendung ... kommt vor. ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik und Sportanlagen.

2009-02-24 Thread Peter Herison
Thomas Drebert schrieb: hier in Berlin sind mehrere Sportanlagen gemappt, welche von Mapnik schlecht gerendert werden weil immer zum schluß der leisure=stadium oder leisure=sports_centre über alles rüber gerendert wird, kann man da nicht mal was ändern? Na klar:

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik und Sportanlagen.

2009-02-24 Thread Sven Geggus
Thomas Drebert dreb...@web.de wrote: hier in Berlin sind mehrere Sportanlagen gemappt, welche von Mapnik schlecht gerendert werden weil immer zum schluß der leisure=stadium oder leisure=sports_centre über alles rüber gerendert wird, kann man da nicht mal was ändern?

Re: [Talk-de] Höhenkarte für Aachen

2009-02-24 Thread Dimitri Junker
Hallo, Da fällt mir ein: Die API macht es Dir sogar noch einfacher: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.5#Retrievin g_GPS_tracks Leider enthalten diese Fies nur 2D-Koordinaten, sonst nichts ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Höhenkarte für Aachen

2009-02-24 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Dimitri Junker schrieb: Da fällt mir ein: Die API macht es Dir sogar noch einfacher: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.5#Retrievin g_GPS_tracks Leider enthalten diese Fies nur 2D-Koordinaten, sonst nichts Die Original-GPX-Dateien enthalten jedoch

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradstraße.

2009-02-24 Thread Gerrit Lammert
Hi Mario. On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:03:19 +0100, Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de wrote: http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.27369lon=10.52957zoom=17layers=B000FTF Gegenfrage: Wie würdest du einen ausgeschilderten Radweg mit der Zusatzbeschilderung Anlieger frei taggen? Je nach Beschaffenheit.

Re: [Talk-de] Höhenkarte für Aachen

2009-02-24 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Dimitri Junker schrieb: Toll, und wie lade ich die? Es sind 202 Seiten mit 20 Traces/Seite also etwa 4000, die möchte ich ungerne einzeln per Hand laden. Ich vermute die Standardantwort ist php o.ä. aber damit kenne ich mich zu wenig aus. There you are:

[Talk-de] Aachen - Komplettdownload

2009-02-24 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Dimitri, falls Du Probleme mit dem Downloaden der einzelnen Dateien bekommst, habe ich Dir hier ein fertiges Päckchen zusammengeschnürrt: http://www.file-upload.net/download-1481299/GPX_Aachen.zip.html 1. Eine große GPX-Datei, in der alle kleinen drin sind. 2. Die einzelnen GPX-Dateien,

Re: [Talk-de] permalink in openlayers Was: OT: GPX tracks mit Openlayers darstellen

2009-02-24 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org writes: Das Thema permalink hacken auch alle leute anders zurecht - ich habe bei einigen gesehen das sie es mit Server Side Includes machen d.h. der web server aendern den JavaScript code - alles reichlich gruselig bis unverstaendlich ... Ich habe es so

Re: [Talk-de] Frage zur Rules-Beschreibung in KOSMOS

2009-02-24 Thread Norbert Kück
Hallo, Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:L%C3%BCbeck/Kosmos-rules-MaxSpeed Kann mir einer von Euch sagen, warum z.b. maxspeed=30 jetzt nicht mehr grün dargestellt wird. Irgendetwas muss ich verstellt haben !

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradstraße.

2009-02-24 Thread Johannes Hüsing
Am 23.02.2009 um 00:33 schrieb Stephan Wolff: Wenn das korrekt ist, wäre highway=cycleway nicht richtig und highway = residential maxspeed = 30 bicycle=designated motor_vehicle=yes Wie wär's mit motor_vehicle=permissive? Das ist doch so im Sinne von nicht dafür gedacht, sagt aber keiner

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradstraße.

2009-02-24 Thread Martin Simon
Am 24. Februar 2009 21:03 schrieb Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de: Eine residential (und alle anderen normalen Straßen) impliziereren aber ein motorcar=designated (es sei denn es ist explizit untersagt) und das macht dieses Value für Radstraßen unbrauchbar, da falsche Begebenheiten

Re: [Talk-de] permalink in openlayers Was: OT: GPX tracks mit Openlayers darstellen

2009-02-24 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Florian Lohoff wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 08:31:55AM +0100, Karl Eichwalder wrote: Wie bei mir funktioniert auch da der Permalink nicht (mehr) wirklich. Die Werte werden zwar in die URL geschrieben, aber letztlich zentriert er wieder auf die Ausgangsposition. Das Thema permalink hacken

Re: [Talk-de] Bodenfreiheit - Barrier?

2009-02-24 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Bernd Wurst schrieb: Also die von Johann genannten ca. 20cm sperren keinen mir bekannten Traktor aus. Sogar LKW (eventuell Langholz-Laster oder sowas) die den Weg benutzen dürfen, kommen da locker drüber weg. Ich hatte in der Mail 2 Sperren: a) die Betonblöcke am Boden in der Fahrbahnmitte

Re: [Talk-de] highway = quaternary

2009-02-24 Thread Garry
Johannes Hüsing schrieb: Nein, da viele Orte auch Start und Ziel von Verkehrsbewegungen sind. Extremfälle sind Orte auf Halbinseln oder in Tälern, nach denen nicht Rechtes mehr kommt. Baden-Baden wäre für mich ein Beispiel, bei dem ich glaube, dass nach Süden raus nur aus Prinzip eine

Re: [Talk-de] highway = quaternary

2009-02-24 Thread Garry
Simon Kokolakis schrieb: Tobias Wendorff schrieb: - eine Landesstraße (durch den Ort mit 50 km/h, tertiary) - eine Hauptverkehrsstraße (verbindet die eine Bundesstraße mit der Landesstraße mit 50 km/h, viel Verkehr, tertiary) Aber dann noch eine Hauptverkehrsstraße, durch die

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradstraße.

2009-02-24 Thread Gerrit Lammert
Hallo Mario. Erstens: Bitte kein TOFU! Mario Salvini wrote: aber wir sind uns schon einig, dass auf einer Rad-Straße bicycle=designated herrscht und alle anderen Teilnehmer standardmäßig ...=no und unter Ausnahme maximal ein ...=yes meistens aber eher ...=destination oder andere

Re: [Talk-de] highway = quaternary

2009-02-24 Thread Gerrit Lammert
Garry wrote: Simon Kokolakis schrieb: Landestraßen würde ich generell als secondary taggen. Ebenso Lande-Strassen tage ich als runway ;-) Ist Strassen der verschollen geglaubte Plural von Strass (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strass)? *duck* Gerrit

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradstraße.

2009-02-24 Thread Mario Salvini
Gerrit Lammert schrieb: Hallo Mario. Erstens: Bitte kein TOFU! Mario Salvini wrote: aber wir sind uns schon einig, dass auf einer Rad-Straße bicycle=designated herrscht und alle anderen Teilnehmer standardmäßig ...=no und unter Ausnahme maximal ein ...=yes meistens aber eher

Re: [Talk-it] Limiti di velocità in aree urbane

2009-02-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/2/24 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: Torniamo all'esempio fatto poco sopra: supponiamo che una legge stabilisca che il nuovo limite di velocità in città è 30 e non più 50. Ri-etichettiamo tutte le way d'Italia? si certo, ma non è molto probabile. Martin

Re: [Talk-it] Numero di canali in un ricevitore GPS

2009-02-24 Thread Diego Roversi
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 04:27:10PM +0100, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:13:02PM +0100, f.pelu...@libero.it wrote: consideriamo il fatto che i satelliti orbitano (a grande distanza, e' vero; pero' orbitano), il numero massimo di satelliti sopra l'orizzonte è al

Re: [Talk-it] Limiti di velocità in aree urbane

2009-02-24 Thread Federico Cozzi
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Luigi Toscano lto...@yahoo.it wrote: In realtà con *un* cartello inizia e finisce sempre la stessa cosa, a seconda del lato da cui lo guardi. Ma la strada ha una direzione, si possono considerare il finisce e inizia come in qualche modo collegati a tale

Re: [Talk-it] Limiti di velocità in aree urbane

2009-02-24 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Luigi Toscano Sent: martedì 24 febbraio 2009 9.51 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Limiti di velocità in aree urbane Federico Cozzi ha scritto: On

Re: [Talk-it] Limiti di velocità in aree urbane

2009-02-24 Thread iiizio
--- Mar 24/2/09, Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com ha scritto: Anch'io sono contrario alla 2 (che è una non-informazione), mentre sulla 1 secondo me si potrebbe fare, in questo modo il navigatore, se si trova all'interno dell'area, sa che di default la velocità massima è 50km/h.

Re: [Talk-it] Limiti di velocità in aree urbane

2009-02-24 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/2/24 iiizio equer...@yahoo.com: Il quartiere in questione si troverebbe mappato come extraurbano, cosa che invece non è: il navigatore penserebbe che il limite sia 90km/h, dove invece il limite è 50km/h. Basta aggiungere qualche punto al perimetro dell'area anche se non c'è una strada

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