[Talk-GB] Unsuitable for motors etc.

2011-10-11 Thread SomeoneElse
Has anyone got any bright ideas about how best to map Unsuitable for Motors etc. signs? As I understand it they're not really access restrictions, just advisory. Currently they tend to be mapped as notes or as motorcar=unsuitable (which I'm yet to be convinced about because that's an access

Re: [OSM-talk] Problems in Chittagong, Bangladesh

2011-10-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Dave Stanley wrote: I don't know if it is from an import or just careless editing. Have a look at: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=22.32989lon=91.80766zoom=15layers=M At first glance it looks like editing rather than an import, and the people doing the editing look like they're

Re: [OSM-talk] Installing your own tileserver on Ubuntu

2011-10-09 Thread SomeoneElse
Kai Krueger wrote: A simple standard tileserver can now be setup in 5 commands in a terminal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kakrueger/openstreetmap sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-tile wget http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/north-america/us/colorado.osm.pbf osm2pgsql -C 1500 colorado.osm.pbf

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixme: A proposal

2011-10-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Erik Johansson wrote: So I took 103 entries that only occurred once from http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/FIXME Since taginfo is case sensitive, you'd want to check this also: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/fixme#values (including 19,000 comically misspelt

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch2 missing?

2011-10-01 Thread SomeoneElse
On 01/10/2011 20:31, John Sturdy wrote: The edit tab isn't working for me -- neither on my home machine, nor if I ssh through to my work machine. (Both running iceweasel on Debian, and I haven't reconfigured anything since it last worked for me.) The slippy map and placename search seem to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread SomeoneElse
Thomas Davie wrote: Proposed solutions (all of which are horrible): 1) Don't tag sliproads onto roundabouts as junction=roundabout, instead use some other tagging scheme. Not greatly desirable because it involves a *whole* lot of retagging. 2) Ask garmin to fix it (doesn't sound likely). 3)

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

2011-08-31 Thread SomeoneElse
On 31/08/2011 10:47, Richard Fairhurst wrote: [1] the stuff that people have built useful stuff on, that is. I doubt anyone would miss the random landuse ... or the NPE-derived waterways in Southern England (given that we now have far better sources for those). The problem with that of

Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Thread SomeoneElse
On 31/08/2011 01:08, Pete Ramjet wrote: Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/08/2011 09:44, Steve Bennett wrote: I'm not sure if this is a recent change (or I've just noticed it), but it seems that tags that don't contain anything recognisable to mapnik other than a name are getting rendered: http://osm.org/go/uG42g@6EB-- It's not a new thing, I don't think - in

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monarch's way distributed mapping party Saturday October 8th

2011-08-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/08/2011 13:14, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Widening out to the rest of the gb list. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 August 2011 3:11 PM To: talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands]

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monarch's way distributed mapping party Saturday October 8th

2011-08-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/08/2011 13:30, SomeoneElse wrote: (and hopefully the link will survive the mailing list OK) ... which of course was exactly what Andy posted. Sorry about that! ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatic Map Plotting in OpenStreetMap

2011-08-14 Thread SomeoneElse
On 14/08/2011 14:33, Stephan Knauss wrote: the magic thing is called Bing imagery. ... If it is good to have such remote mapping or bad depends on how the people on the ground react. Adding a whole street including geometry is imho a lot more rewarding then just entering street names.

Re: [Talk-GB] Routing and other problems west of Uttoxeter

2011-08-11 Thread SomeoneElse
SomeoneElse wrote: I'll bung him a message about way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/62327024/history (and got a reply BTW) Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Routing and other problems west of Uttoxeter

2011-08-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 10/08/2011 22:06, Jonathan Bennett wrote: First changeset after expiry: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8976461 I'll bung him a message about way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/62327024/history and way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/125500644 which

Re: [Talk-GB] Routing and other problems west of Uttoxeter

2011-08-08 Thread SomeoneElse
On 08/08/2011 11:47, Paul Williams wrote: I've found that there is still a big problem with unconnected roads in the area west of Uttoxeter (including in Stoke-on-Trent) ... I've so far fixed some of the problems along the A50 in Stoke and am currently working on sorting out the Longton area,

Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread SomeoneElse
On 25/07/2011 08:53, Michael Kugelmann wrote: On 23.07.2011 18:35, I wrote: I for my personnal view think that's way too slow for current demands: we should see at least a daily update for the demands of the current work which is necessary to replace ways. Is there a way to speed up e.g. by

Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-21 Thread SomeoneElse
On 21/07/2011 11:44, Mitja Kleider wrote: The Matterhorn recording system has audio and video in various formats, you can query them by talk-id: http://matterhorn.zserv.tuwien.ac.at/search/rest/episode?id=Unscheduled-lecturetube-ei7-1310734982522 Search for Camera.avi or Screen.avi and you

Re: [Talk-GB] Trail markers

2011-07-21 Thread SomeoneElse
On 21/07/2011 09:46, Dave F. wrote: On 20/07/2011 22:48, SomeoneElse wrote: A couple of days ago I spotted a couple of marked trails that I'd not seen before... What did it look like where was it? The first one is here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1574005 The sign

Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-20 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/07/2011 13:25, Norbert Wenzel wrote: All videos should now be online. If there's still a video missing we do not have the right to publish it or we have technical problems with the video (Steves Keynote seems not to work. Andreas Trawöger is still working on this together with the TU

[Talk-GB] Trail markers

2011-07-20 Thread SomeoneElse
A couple of days ago I spotted a couple of marked trails that I'd not seen before. Before I spend a fruitless half-hour trying to google for a picture (unfortunately neither has a description on the trail marker) could anyone point me in the direction of a gallery of such things? I'm sure

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

2011-07-18 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/07/2011 12:15, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Unless this person has surveyed the 1350 pubs he doesn't add any information, because you can already see from the data that the toilet is inside a pub. There might be pubs which consent general use (not very probable, but in 1350 pubs this might

Re: [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

2011-07-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 11/07/2011 22:42, Frederik Ramm wrote: ... But what if I had 1. a facility where I can comment on the perceived usefulness of a changeset; 2. a facility where I can click a thumbs down or thumbs up in case I particularly like or dislike the change; 3. a league table showing the most

Re: [Talk-GB] Routing and other problems west of Uttoxeter

2011-07-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 28/06/2011 20:45, Richard Bullock wrote: It seems Mr Darren39 has simply nuked all of my contributions in the north and east of the town, and replaced them with his own - and none of the ways connect to any other ways. A whole section of the A523 is missing. Much of the replacements are a

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Commenting and thumbs up/down feature for changesets

2011-07-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 11/07/2011 22:42, Frederik Ramm wrote (to talk@): Hi, I just stumbled across a changeset where someone helpfully added a toilet:access=customers to 1350 pubs in the Greeater London area On the specific point of that changeset, is the author of it really sure that none of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Another heads up - new mapper appears to be deleting stuff in Ashbourne

2011-07-01 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/06/2011 22:56, SomeoneElse wrote: For info - I've dropped them a mail (hopefully friendly in tone) about it. ... and they've said that it was OK to roll back their changes, which I've done. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB

[Talk-GB] Another heads up - new mapper appears to be deleting stuff in Ashbourne

2011-06-29 Thread SomeoneElse
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8573585 (this might still be at the stage at which a clean reversion is possible) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Another heads up - new mapper appears to be deleting stuff in Ashbourne

2011-06-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/06/2011 16:41, Peter Miller wrote: ... and tools can highlight 'changes made by new editors that you might want to check' etc. You're ahead of yourself on that one - it was ITO's osm mapper that highlighted cja's edits to me! Luckily as well as the deletions they'd added one new way

Re: [Talk-GB] Another heads up - new mapper appears to be deleting stuff in Ashbourne

2011-06-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/06/2011 15:57, Lester Caine wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: On 06/29/11 15:58, SomeoneElse wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8573585 Changeset comment Ashbourne map - plain might point to user wanting to make a nice no-frills map for himself and not thinking about

[Talk-GB] Routing and other problems west of Ashbourne (Staffordshire Moorlands)

2011-06-28 Thread SomeoneElse
Just a bit of a heads-up - if anyone's created a map that they intend to use for routing that covers this area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.0286lon=-1.849zoom=13layers=M (the A52 and A523 west of Ashbourne) any time between 18th June and about now you might want to re-extract it. An

Re: [Talk-GB] Routing and other problems west of Ashbourne (Staffordshire Moorlands)

2011-06-28 Thread SomeoneElse
On 28/06/2011 20:45, Richard Bullock wrote: I originally surveyed Leek back in 2009. It seems Mr Darren39 has simply nuked all of my contributions in the north and east of the town, and replaced them with his own - and none of the ways connect to any other ways. A whole section of the A523 is

Re: [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/06/2011 21:22, Mike Dupont wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com mailto:st...@asklater.com wrote: On 6/22/2011 12:51 PM, 80n wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:31 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com mailto:st...@asklater.com wrote: How

Re: [Talk-GB] Potlatch 2.2

2011-06-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 19/06/2011 18:12, Richard Fairhurst wrote: To use it, simply choose 'Show licence status' from the Options dialogue, and make sure you're editing with the standard Potlatch map style. It will show: - Elements where version 1 was created by someone who's declined ODbL+CT: solid red -

Re: [OSM-talk] Source tags and changesets (was ... ODbL ...)

2011-06-17 Thread SomeoneElse
On 17/06/2011 06:35, Ed Avis wrote: This is not really a technical question but one of convention: are per-changeset source tags generally accepted practice in the project these days? I suspect that it varies by community. My experience locally is that on-the-ground mappers tend to use

Re: [OSM-talk] Source tags and changesets (was ... ODbL ...)

2011-06-17 Thread SomeoneElse
On 17/06/2011 09:42, Jochen Topf wrote: The source tag can sometimes be some help in figuring out the history of an object. After it was entered in OSM we have a complete history, before that the source tag can sometimes help. But it is far less useful in practice than many think. Exactly

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-16 Thread SomeoneElse
On 16/06/2011 18:00, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: You can also put this information in the change-set-comment. IMHO this is where this belongs to. AFAIK the source-tag is disputed and it is recommended to use the changeset comments. The problem with the changeset source tag is that there's no

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread SomeoneElse
On 13/06/2011 16:34, Stephan Knauss wrote: As long as MS wants to promote Silverlight using the OSM layer they should at least not silently fall back to another map. So either serve OSM with plain JS or tell the user it won't. If you believe the news / rumour sites, they might not be

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 10/06/2011 13:17, Ed Avis wrote: Richard Fairhurstrichard@... writes: This is no doubt true. But surely having an area that has been *surveyed* to 100% road name completion is just as likely to put off any new contributors as one that was *traced* to 100%? ... I think we all agree that

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread SomeoneElse
On 08/06/2011 08:15, Peter Miller wrote: ... On a separate note. Would you be able to do a comparison between place names in NatGaz and in OSM. I think we will be surprised how many places we are still missing from OSM. My guess is that OSM only contains about 65% of the 50K places in that

[Talk-GB] Road route relations in the UK

2011-06-01 Thread SomeoneElse
When looking at a bit of the A1: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/34158443 I happened to notice that it seems to belong to 6 route relations. There's a bus route, an E road (both of which make sense) and 4 A1s (which don't), one of which (103597) seems to have a lot more versions than

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread SomeoneElse
On 05/05/2011 16:40, Peter Miller wrote: http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=87 First reaction - thank you - that will be _extremely_ useful. Second reaction - have I really forgotton to add footpath and bridleway designations from quite so many footpaths locally? Oh dear

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/05/2011 13:22, Peter Oliver wrote: • There's an old method of tagging ways suitable for pedestrians, and a new method. I'd ignore the new method as documented there. It was added by a wikifiddler a couple of months ago and bears no resemblance to common usage in the UK. The huge

Re: [Talk-GB] National Byway rendering on OpenCycleMap

2011-04-20 Thread SomeoneElse
On 20/04/2011 10:03, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: On your note re Sustrans walking/cycling I did the same chuckle. I'm also surprised that they haven't yet changed the standard ranger sticker from the cycling one to the one that adds the pedestrian at the top as well. Every ranger

Re: [Talk-GB] Sorting out layering in East Anglia, Essex, London and Kent

2011-04-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 19/04/2011 14:31, Peter Miller wrote: ... railways at layer=1 or -1 Well, that might be correct if they're at layer -1 or +1 relative to a feature that hasn't been mapped yet. A conversation with the original mappers (or a visit) should be able to resolve that easily. In the process

Re: [Talk-GB] Sorting out layering in East Anglia, Essex, London and Kent

2011-04-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 19/04/2011 15:26, Peter Miller wrote: That is not what the wiki says (and said before my edits). Before my edits it said: ... It really doesn't matter what the wiki says. What matters is that someone's mapped something and recorded some information and you're removing that

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread SomeoneElse
On 14/04/2011 10:56, Michael Collinson wrote: The revised contributor terms should now be live and I have just got the go ahead to be able to announce that the mandatory Accept/Decline will be switched on on Sunday. Thanks Mike - I spotted that they'd changed last night. Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Maxspeed tagging for the UK

2011-04-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/04/2011 09:38, Peter Miller wrote: On 11 April 2011 23:39, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: We've lost the information that the sign is actually NOT a 60 mph sign. Something like method 2 above would have avoided losing

Re: [Talk-GB] Maxspeed tagging for the UK

2011-04-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 9 April 2011 08:15, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: ... We seem to be nudging towards something close to a conclusion.

Re: [Talk-GB] Maxspeed tagging for the UK

2011-04-06 Thread SomeoneElse
On 06/04/2011 15:02, Chris Hill wrote: On 06/04/11 14:22, Peter Miller wrote: Do we have a preference for tagging unrestricted limits in the UK? I say that because a section of the A1 is beginning to look a bit war damaged (as in edit war). ... Any thoughts? I think we should tag

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/04/2011 11:08, Ed Avis wrote: I've stopped tagging route_ref because according to the wiki the preferred way to map bus routes is as a relation. Does that reflect the accepted practice in this country? What uses the bus route data anyway? Potentially anyone with a Garmin following the

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread SomeoneElse
On 31/03/2011 12:40, Dave F. wrote: As someone from across the pond, excuse my ignorance, but what are these for:

Re: [OSM-talk] Analysing the OSM community

2011-03-28 Thread SomeoneElse
On 28/03/2011 15:30, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: I found today this article A qualitative enquiry into OpenStreetMap making Author: Yu-Wei Lina *Single Article Purchase:* US$41.00 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Other Routes with Public Access

2011-03-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/03/2011 10:11, Mike Harris wrote: I am not insensitive to the need for OSM to remain free of any copyright or similar restrictions but I do not think absence of physical signage /ipso facto/ constitutes such a barrier to use. I don't either - but think that a source:designation would

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/03/2011 17:13, Kevin Peat wrote: On 24 March 2011 16:56, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com mailto:e...@waniasset.com wrote: You could use something like designation=public_footpath highway=no note=Although a right of way, there is no path on the ground. Would work I

Re: [Talk-GB] Other Route with Public Access (ORPA)

2011-03-23 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/03/2011 11:18, Dave F. wrote: Hi I've noticed a couple few ways being tagged with designation= Other Route with Public Access (or just ORPA) I've never heard of that as a legal designation (of an England / Wales right of way) or seen such a sign. If I saw it on a way in OSM I'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Other Route with Public Access (ORPA)

2011-03-23 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/03/2011 12:37, Dave F. wrote: Most of the OPRA I know of lead onto paths/bridleways etc are signed as such at the beginning of the OPRAs. If it's not obvious along the length of a path what its designation is, or the designations in use are just silly*, then I'll usually tag a

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

2011-03-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 11/03/2011 13:31, Ed Avis wrote: I don't argue against that at all, I think it's great. But in fact that is not the classical OSM way, which has been (a) armchair trace from Yahoo imagery then (b) send out the mappers to find street names and other stuff. (adopts tone from the four

Re: [Talk-GB] OS, OSM and field boundaries

2011-03-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 11/03/2011 13:42, Steve Doerr wrote: Field boundaries can be traced from Bing? A lot of work though. Contours can be done using the same method as Cycle Map. Field boundaries can be traced in this way, with the caveat that 10 years can be long time in terms of field boundaries (certainly

Re: [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites

2011-03-07 Thread SomeoneElse
On 07/03/2011 13:31, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: it is an error as soon as not all attributes on the road apply to the parallel cycleway ... Any map (in fact any measurement) has errors. Adding extra information to the map is useful, even if it doesn't add all the information that everyone

Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)

2011-03-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Even apart from the node cockup, whilst it's possible that the perpetrator of this changeset has checked that every item changed did in fact sell processed dead cow, I suspect that that's unlikely. For example, I note after a quick Google that McDonalds Carpets Rugs spell their name without

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero tolerance on imports

2011-02-21 Thread SomeoneElse
On 21/02/2011 18:03, Peter Budny wrote: Okay, even if we accept that -- and many OSM mappers do not, They've clearly not heard the posh woman inside my satnav then - she has no problems pronouncing name and ref information on roads (she can't pronounce Huthwaite, but that's another problem).

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero tolerance on imports

2011-02-20 Thread SomeoneElse
Frank Steggink wrote: I believe the average community opinion is more like: imports _are_ welcome, but _only_ if there are no better alternatives, and _only_ if a strict set of guidelines is followed (for example _not_ deleting better quality user contributed data). I think that historical

Re: [OSM-talk] [Spam?]Re: Underground / hovering buildings

2011-02-17 Thread SomeoneElse
On 17/02/2011 01:04, Robin Paulson wrote: On 17 February 2011 12:21, David Murnda...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Ive fixed quite a number of spots where keepright has picked up a river and highway on the same layer (=0), generally without a junction node. i wonder what would be the consequences

Re: [Talk-GB] A way of getting more footpaths done? - tagged track segments

2011-02-15 Thread SomeoneElse
On 15/02/2011 20:28, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Any feelings on this? First things first, more GPS tracks are definitely useful, even if there's no other information recorded. For example, if I've walked from A to B and recorded one GPS track, and no-one else has been there (which is true a lot

Re: [Talk-GB] Reclassification of English highway network consultation

2011-02-07 Thread SomeoneElse
On 07/02/2011 17:52, Ralph Smyth wrote: The document is at: www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/2011-02/roadsnetworkconsultation.pdf Nearly - it is now: http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/2011-02/roadnetworkconsultation.pdf (37 pages of extreme verbosity later, losing the will to live on

Re: [Talk-GB] Girl of four died in turn-restriction error

2011-02-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/02/2011 13:48, Ed Avis wrote: I have sometimes wondered whether harvesting GPS traces would help with this task. If every trace shows turning left at the junction, flag a warning for somebody to check whether a turn restriction needs to be added. But to do that we would need a bigger

Re: [OSM-talk] Most complete cities and administrative divisions database

2011-01-26 Thread SomeoneElse
On 26/01/2011 15:53, Sami Dalouche wrote: For instance, the geonames project (http://www.geonames.org/) provides over 7 million POI, and 2 million of them are cities. How many of them are vaguely close to the correct location though? I tried a few local (UK) village names. About half weren't

Re: [talk-au] BYO restaurants

2011-01-26 Thread SomeoneElse
On 26/01/2011 16:12, David Murn wrote: The only issue I would have, is with the spelling of licence. Steve suggested licensed but as OSM is traditionally British English, shouldnt licenced=yes/no be used? taginfo shows licenced=yes has 2 usages where licensed=yes has 9, so its early enough to

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-26 Thread SomeoneElse
On 26/01/2011 17:24, Ralph Smyth wrote: You can see the sign by rule 218 of the Highway Code, although some pre-2006 schemes used a different sign: www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069858 So there should be a 'quiet_lane' value for highway, just as there is 'living_street'.

Re: [talk-au] BYO restaurants

2011-01-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/01/2011 23:08, John Smith wrote: Not all restaurants are licensed... amenity=restaurant licensed=yes/no/byo Sounds good to me - thanks. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] BYO restaurants

2011-01-23 Thread SomeoneElse
Hi - quick question - what's the normal way to indicate BYO vs licenced restaurants? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread SomeoneElse
On 20/01/2011 11:10, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: Certainly the Grantham Canal is a good place to clarify how to tag canals in various states of disuse: ... ... Cromford Canal from Cromford to Ambergate ... Mea culpa for parts of both of those. I think that I used canoeable (i.e. having

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms upgrade ready

2011-01-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/01/2011 14:48, Mike Collinson wrote: The links below show the wording we will formally release. Thanks Mike. I'll look forward to a derivative of those appearing on https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/terms at some point in the future. ___

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME and incorrect tags

2011-01-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 19/01/2011 09:55, James Davis wrote: - Tools using the data won't easily be able to parse a freeform fixme tag. 'highway=motorway;fixme=highway tag clearly wrong, please correct' being a good example. But it's humans and not machines that edit the map. The fixme is for humans to read.

Re: [Talk-GB] invisible

2011-01-17 Thread SomeoneElse
On 17/01/2011 23:21, Graham Jones wrote: Chris, I don't know one about waterways, but for walking routes it is worth looking at Lonvia's hiking map (http://osm.lonvia.de/world_hiking.html) - I use this one. That's really useful - I'd no idea that there was anywhere that rendered these all

Re: [Talk-GB] invisible

2011-01-17 Thread SomeoneElse
On 17/01/2011 23:05, Chris Moss wrote: ... What about ... bus routes ... There's http://openbusmap.org/ , although that's not being updatd currently. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 09/01/2011 20:17, Dave F. wrote: On 09/01/2011 16:28, Gorm E. Johnsen wrote: Hi Today there is 5500 ways with highway=unsurfaced... Whilst the surface condition should be a sub-tag (surface=*), you unfortunately don't know what the actual road classification is, so it's inadvisable to

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-08 Thread SomeoneElse
On 08/12/2010 21:59, Steve Bennett wrote: So the question arises: does the community support this view? Unlike the Life of Brian, here everyone does seem to be an individual - I suspect that you'll get as many answers as there are mappers. Speaking entirely personally, I do mostly only map

Re: [OSM-talk] So how *do* you get GPS waypoints into OSM?

2010-11-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/11/2010 12:20, Steve Bennett wrote: So...what's the right format? I have a feeling I've been down this road before and didn't get very far. It really doesn't seem like a very obscure thing I'm trying to do here. Workarounds? Steve ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I go about doing this?

2010-11-08 Thread SomeoneElse
On 08/11/2010 12:27, Donald Campbell II wrote: What is the process for getting a tag supported in mkgmap? If you're creating your own maps, then you have complete control over what gets included or not in the mkgmap map (whether you're using the newer style files or the older map features

Re: [OSM-talk] Now: Wikiteam

2010-11-07 Thread SomeoneElse
Maybe eventually we'll end up with two separate projects - one that edits the wiki and one that does the mapping (and ignores the wiki)? Maybe that's happening already? Cheers, Andy :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=ford vs ford=yes

2010-11-01 Thread SomeoneElse
On 01/11/2010 22:51, Gorm E. Johnsen wrote: Interesting to see that nobody seems to object strongly to the (manual) edits I have already done with *ways* tagged with highway=ford. That's not strictly true; I did object (and you replied) via the OSM message system when you started updating

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=ford vs ford=yes

2010-10-31 Thread SomeoneElse
On 31/10/2010 13:46, Gorm E. Johnsen wrote: I propose to replace highway=ford with ford=yes (or perhaps barrier=ford?) on nodes as well, simply to de-clutter the highway tag and to be more consistent. Please don't change things unless you've actually been there and surveyed the item in

Re: [Talk-GB] SotM 2011 UK? Setting up a GB OSMF chapter?

2010-10-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/10/2010 18:15, Gregory wrote: I hope the mapping passion isn't sliding away from the UK. Whether people can get around to organising a conference isn't necessarily related to whether they're still keen on mapping or not. Maybe the weather this summer was too good? Cheers, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] tile downloader

2010-10-21 Thread SomeoneElse
On 21/10/2010 00:51, David Murn wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:35 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Anyone interested in the openstreetmap tile downloader 5.0 ? It is now available for only 29,95 $

[Talk-GB] Naptan (was: 27,000 street lights in one council area)

2010-10-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/10/2010 17:07, Andy Allan wrote: Might I quietly suggest that until the Naptan import is finished (and that more than 25% of the naptan stops appear in the right place), that we leave any discussion of importing street lights off the table? Is that still happening?

Re: [Talk-GB] Historical Mapping in OSM

2010-09-27 Thread SomeoneElse
On 27/09/2010 12:02, Dave F. wrote: I've an abandoned railway in my area where sections of it are now invisible having been completely leveled used as agricultural land. Someone's tagged these as railway=abandoned. I don't think they should. I'd agree with that. I think that what

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 19/09/2010 14:37, Nic Roets wrote: This is because a gate with no access tags implies that nothing can go through. It wouldn't to me - no access tags on the gate would imply to me that nothing had been recorded about whether it was normally open or closed, or locked so that it couldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Exceeded API bandwidth limit, now what?

2010-09-14 Thread SomeoneElse
On 14/09/2010 12:55, Serge Wroclawski wrote: It might be nice to tie in this wiki page with the error itself, so when people are banned, it says Go to this page for more information and they're given useufl information and steps they can take to prevent it from happening again. Not seen the

Re: [OSM-talk] Unnamed footways for pedestrian navigation

2010-09-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 10/09/2010 11:14, Tobias Knerr wrote: Lulu-Ann wrote: I would like to add loc_name-tags for this and name ways like footway from village A to B, west of footway crossing in MyWoodName Yes: Don't use loc_name (or any other key that contains name) for this. It's not a name. It's a

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Thread SomeoneElse
On 27/08/2010 08:50, Ian Spencer wrote: I don't think there is anyone rendering it explicitly at the moment, however, it would be trivial for someone to take the OpenCycleMap code and apply a similar style to an OpenWalkMap. I'm not entirely convinced it's that straightforward.

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Thread SomeoneElse
On 27/08/2010 11:22, Ian Spencer wrote: There is a relationship type route with network tag uk_ldp, and in Potlatch it already renders the long distance paths in a different way, so in principle it should be easy. Not sure whether that has been adopted though.

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Thread SomeoneElse
On 27/08/2010 11:56, Ian Spencer wrote: Had a quick look at Nick's current rendering which is a good stab as you said. The thing that sticks out is that there are very few footpaths rendered as public footpaths. It is unsurprising that this happens because Potlatch et al have defaults when

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms - The Early Years

2010-08-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/08/2010 01:34, Richard Weait wrote: That's an open question for the lawyer that wrote the CT. In casual conversation with one lawyer (casual as in I wasn't paying the lawyer) Thanks Richard. What we could do with from the LWG (and I'm sure that they will look at doing it) is a here are

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is compatible with ODbL - a philosophical point

2010-08-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/08/2010 11:35, Ed Avis wrote: ... under the proposed ODbL or whether it would technically be in breach of the contract-law provisions But presumably I as Joe Mapper wouldn't be restricted in going back to the OS with a bunch of errors that I've found after comparing what I've mapped

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms - The Early Years

2010-08-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/08/2010 15:27, Mike Collinson wrote: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes or directly https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1lVQlsnuEKPY2gjspScwHqgmo8RyoqmuaWWmWh58T4TY 0.1 https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=18q0b_f_-rtuWWC04qaAcO3NY_Aob2QjY2gGRMmo0IrM 0.2

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin etrex Vista HCx issue

2010-08-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/08/2010 21:42, Steve Chilton wrote: My new week old Garmin etrex Vista HCx is causing me grief. The power on/off button has decided to not function at all. Am thinking I will have to go to Garmin to resolve it (it was purchased from Amazon). Possibly, but I think that it should be the

Re: [Talk-GB] Derbyshire area unconnected

2010-08-21 Thread SomeoneElse
On 21/08/2010 10:01, Ian Spencer wrote: I suspect that it is an area where it has never been done properly, so there hasn't been an example to follow. It's also a between other mappers area - north of the West Midlands, a bit west for me and a bit SE for mikh43. The initial ways I

Re: [OSM-talk] Bretton Woods (was NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms)

2010-08-19 Thread SomeoneElse
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.25812lon=-71.44119zoom=15layers=M Looks like it could do with someone visiting to add some POIs? (trying to bring this back on topic) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-08-02 Thread SomeoneElse
Ross Scanlon wrote: Total time 6 minutes Hundreds of hours, yeah right. So you've also updated every user of mkgmap who uses a customised style file too? That should add a few to the 20 or so (or whatever number were mentioned before). Each change is of the same order as the one that

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of OS OpenData in OSM

2010-07-23 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/07/2010 08:52, Ed Avis wrote: Fair point. In that case, to be scrupulous, you would need to add individual source tags to each object as you change it. But even then, the object data is not sufficient to know where it has come from: you must check the change history and see at which

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