Re: [talk-ph] motorways leading to nowhere?

2010-06-23 Thread Ronny Ager-Wick
Yes, I feel the same. One of the definitions of a motorway is that it does not cross at level with any road, railway or tramway track, or footpath (according to wikipedia) so if this road does, then it's definitely not a motorway. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: I'm inclined to think that this is

Re: [talk-ph] motorways leading to nowhere?

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Garcia
That's a very good definition ... I agree it is *not* a motorway. That highway was made so that it serves as a bypass road for the towns of Orion, Pilar, Abucay, Balanga, etc to go straight to Mariveles. I passed this road several times before when I was mapping POIs at Mariveles and I really

Re: [talk-ph] motorways leading to nowhere?

2010-06-23 Thread maning sambale
I passed this road several times before when I was mapping POIs at Mariveles and I really wondered why it was ever classified as a motorway. Excellent! Verified info from a person who actually saw the road condition! Demoted to trunk then. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5057906

Re: [talk-ph] skillshare

2010-06-23 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
May pause video din :) Pwede rin IRC, pero madami options dyan like yahoo group chat or another IM. Andre maning sambale wrote: We could also try IRC. It's a low-bandwidth option. But only for mostly textual discussion. :-) I'm OK with IRC, perhaps we can open an osm-ph channel in

[talk-ph] Fwd: motorways leading to nowhere?

2010-06-23 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Forwarding this reply to the mailing list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jun Martin jun.mar...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] motorways leading to nowhere? To: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com I think this road is named ROMAN HIGHWAY.

Re: [talk-ph] OSM Editing Tip in 5 Minutes screencast series

2010-06-23 Thread maning sambale
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:16 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Get 1 second recorded tracks from Garmin Nuvi Series using wNutrak For some reason upload was unsuccessful. New video link here: http://vimeo.com/12810817 -- cheers, maning

[OSM-legal-talk] Share-A-Like (non-) Verifiability because they are not publicly accessable

2010-06-23 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
Hello everybody, I am still concerned that some business users cannot make use of OpenStreetMap data because of the Share-Alike-rule as they don't want or cannot share proprietary data. Personally, I am a big fan of the Share-Alike-rule but I think there should be some exceptions. I have the

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread David Paleino
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:27:27 -0400, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: Hello people, does someone know the reasoning behind: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:highwaydiff=490719oldid=485601 ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:08 PM, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: Hello people, does someone know the reasoning behind:  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:highwaydiff=490719oldid=485601 ? It changed the meaning of almost all highway=*_link present

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Paleino wrote: [...] it seems like that was a unilateral decision made by Richard. [...] Richard says I think the wiki may be wrong [...] Richard, please don't take this as a personal attack :) For the avoidance of doubt I should perhaps point out that this is another Richard. cheers

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread David Paleino
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:56:29 +0100, Andy Allan wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:08 PM, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: Hello people, does someone know the reasoning behind:  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:highwaydiff=490719oldid=485601 ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Avis
Andy Allan gravitystorm at gmail.com writes: Don't worry, it hasn't actually changed the meaning of anything - it's just that the wiki is now wrong. Maybe we need some place to document the meaning of tags other than the (clearly unreliable) wiki? Either that or accept that the meaning is not

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/06/10 12:14, David Paleino wrote: I'm not going to start an edit-war, I'd prefer someone with the proper rights to revert that edit. Then we can start discussing the matter, and file bugs where needed. What are these proper rights to which you refer? The page isn't locked so any wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Andy Allan gravitystorm at gmail.com writes: Don't worry, it hasn't actually changed the meaning of anything - it's just that the wiki is now wrong. Maybe we need some place to document the meaning of tags other than the

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 June 2010 21:29, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I'm not going to start an edit-war, I'd prefer someone with the proper rights to revert that edit. Then we can start discussing the matter, and file bugs where needed. What are these proper rights to which you refer? The page isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread David Paleino
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:35:46 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 23 June 2010 21:29, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I'm not going to start an edit-war, I'd prefer someone with the proper rights to revert that edit. Then we can start discussing the matter, and file bugs where needed. What

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Avis
Having a wiki is great but the 'anyone can edit' model is not good for pages that are meant to be authoritative, documenting the meaning of tags in use, or giving best practice for new editors. Allowing instant changes to specification documents by any user makes about as much sense as allowing

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Ed, Ed Avis wrote: Having a wiki is great but the 'anyone can edit' model is not good for pages that are meant to be authoritative, Luckily we don't have authoritative pages in OSM. So maybe the current somewhat chaotic situation is the best we can hope for. Yes, the solution is encouraging

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Instead of trying to create authoritative wiki pages, we must make it clear to everyone that these pages are *not* authoritative. Not more neither less than Potlatch and JOSM presets... Pieren

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Avis
Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org writes: Instead of trying to create authoritative wiki pages, we must make it clear to everyone that these pages are *not* authoritative. Right. This is the alternative I alluded to: accept that the meaning of tags is not reliably documented anywhere. To

Re: [OSM-talk] Stack Overflow-like site for OpenStreetMap support

2010-06-23 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Matt Williams wrote: On 22 June 2010 17:44, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 22/06/10 17:35, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: You may have used questions and answers sites such as Stack Overflow (http://stackoverflow.com/) or its siblings - I like them a lot. There is a proposal for such a site

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Anthony
Having a wiki is great but the 'anyone can edit' model is not good for pages that are meant to be authoritative, Luckily we don't have authoritative pages in OSM. I don't know about luckily, but yeah. For data to be maximally useful, it needs to be well-defined. Instead of trying to

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread James Livingston
On 23/06/2010, at 8:56 PM, Andy Allan wrote: Don't worry, it hasn't actually changed the meaning of anything - it's just that the wiki is now wrong. The easy way to fix the situation is to correct the wiki - it's as straightforward as that. You could argue the wiki is now wrong, but you could

Re: [OSM-talk] Stack Overflow-like site for OpenStreetMap support

2010-06-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/06/10 13:56, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Matt Williams wrote: Especially with things like Shapado (http://shapado.com and http://gitorious.org/shapado) allowing you to set up our own site Shapado on an OpenStreetMap-controlled host sounds good to me, and it seems to me that there is user

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for street danger levels

2010-06-23 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I figured it would be footway=* (a la cycleway=*), but apparently that was proposed years ago and never adopted (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Footway). do you suggest to set it to abandoned? Features in OSM are (mostly) not introduced

Re: [OSM-talk] Stack Overflow-like site for OpenStreetMap support

2010-06-23 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Tom Hughes wrote: On 23/06/10 13:56, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Matt Williams wrote: Especially with things like Shapado (http://shapado.com and http://gitorious.org/shapado) allowing you to set up our own site Shapado on an OpenStreetMap-controlled host sounds good to me, and it seems to me

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread MP
IMHO the tag should contain information from what to what the link is (like between redidential and secondary, fron tertiary to primary, etc ...), so renderers can properly decide how much important the link to primary is - it is probably more impornant if it connects to another primary than case

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:16 AM, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.comwrote: I, and from what I see in use where I live quite a few other too, have always used xxx_link tags to join a highway=xxx with a higher one, because we think what was documented on the wiki (xxx_link joins highway=xxx

Re: [OSM-talk] Stack Overflow-like site for OpenStreetMap support

2010-06-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/06/10 14:28, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: osqa or shapado... Both seem very nice. I'll be happy with either one. Any wiki page somewhere with a list of what remains to be done for this project to take off ? It's not like there's some massive to do list - it just needs me to decide which

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for street danger levels

2010-06-23 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I figured it would be footway=* (a la cycleway=*), but apparently that was proposed years ago and never adopted

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for street danger levels

2010-06-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I figured it would be footway=* (a la cycleway=*), but apparently that was proposed years ago and never

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for street danger levels

2010-06-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 June 2010 00:13, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Without attempting to express much of an interest in tagging discussions, it would be great if you were to use the word sidewalk to describe the paths-along-the-edge-of-roads. The word footway might footpath=* :)

[OSM-talk] Good book on GIS concepts

2010-06-23 Thread skoobi
Hi, Would anyone recommend a good book on GIS/Geodesy/etc that could be used to understand the underlying concepts behind most GIS applications ? I am not looking for 100% theory full of mathematical formulae, but ideally, something that explains the main idea behind the concepts (projections,

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:16 PM, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: You could argue that it's wikifiddling in an attempt to influence how people map, or that it's documenting how a lot of people already map. It's all a matter of perspective. If it was documenting how a lot of

Re: [OSM-talk] Good book on GIS concepts

2010-06-23 Thread Randy Meech
I recently read and enjoyed A Primer of GIS: Fundamental Geographic and Cartographic Concepts when I was looking for the same sort of thing: http://www.amazon.com/Primer-GIS-Fundamental-Geographic-Cartographic/dp/1593855656 That said, I chose this after some online research haven't read very

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Good book on GIS concepts

2010-06-23 Thread David Fawcett
Randy, You might want to take a look at 'Desktop GIS - The Book': http://desktopgisbook.com/ I haven't read it, but it has good reviews from people that I respect.  One cool aspect of the book is that utilizes OpenSource software, so you can work through the examples and lessons without having

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for street danger levels

2010-06-23 Thread Anthony
On 6/23/10, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: highway=path wouldn't work if the way is already tagged with highway=secondary. I was thinking something like highway=secondary, footway=both (a la highway=secondary,

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for street danger levels

2010-06-23 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org: The alternative would be to have three different ways. Neither solution is particularly nice, though.  I'm actually hoping someone will come up with something better :). use three ways and connect them with area relations ;-) cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for street danger levels

2010-06-23 Thread Paul Houle
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org: The alternative would be to have three different ways. Neither solution is particularly nice, though. I'm actually hoping someone will come up with something better :). use three ways and connect them with area

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for street danger levels

2010-06-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On 6/23/10, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Without attempting to express much of an interest in tagging discussions, it would be great if you were to use the word sidewalk to describe the paths-along-the-edge-of-roads.

[OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-23 Thread Frédéric Bonifas
Hi, Looking for data sources on Kyrgyzstan, I came across soviet military topographic maps. This is for Osh for example : http://en.poehali.org/maps/100k--k43-122.html According to Wikipedia, it is in the Public domain : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Maps/Source_materials

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-23 Thread Frédéric Bonifas
Replying to myself, these maps are out of copyright according to our wiki : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Out-of-copyright_maps#Old_maps_found_elsewhere_on_the_web Frédéric Le 23 juin 2010 21:47, Frédéric Bonifas fredericboni...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi, Looking for data sources on

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Share-A-Like (non-) Verifiability because they are not publicly accessable

2010-06-23 Thread Manuel Reimer
Oliver (skobbler) wrote: Let's assume that a business user has a database of non-publicly accessible objects (e.g. a subsurface cable network for demonstration purposes). If the user installs its own instance of an OpenStreetMap server and draws the non-publicly accessible subsurface cable

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-23 Thread Frédéric Bonifas
Ok so it has to be removed from the Out-of-copyright maps page of the wiki right ? Frédéric Le 23 juin 2010 22:12, Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com a écrit : No, they are not out of copyright. All the rights of USSR were transfered to Russian Federation. Neither USSR, nor Russian

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-23 Thread Igor Brejc
Interesting. A while I ago I did some work on generating relief contours from Viewfinder's DEM data, basis of which are old Soviet military maps: http://igorbrejc.net/openstreetmap/viewfinders-dem-data-comparison-with-srtm Someone then warned me that some of the Viewfinder data stems from Soviet

Re: [OSM-talk] Good book on GIS concepts

2010-06-23 Thread Igor Brejc
This one is a bit technical, but it's a great resource book: http://www.spatialanalysisonline.com/ There's even a free Web version, although I recommend buying a printed version for anyone into GIS Igor On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:33 PM, sko...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Would anyone recommend a good

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-06-23 Thread Kirill Bestoujev
No, they are not out of copyright. All the rights of USSR were transfered to Russian Federation. Neither USSR, nor Russian Federation ever transferred those maps to public domain or in any other way allowed free use of them. Most of that maps were stolen from exUSSR military bases in republics,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Busroutes

2010-06-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:11:31 +0200, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: Had ik gedaan, geen resultaat, Op de wiki zoeken op busroute en dan is de tweede optie de pagina NL-OV waar beide links in staan. http://xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/ (vreemd trucje gebeurt hier

[OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Raymond Nijssen
Is het mogelijk een lijst van alle straatnamen in een gemeente te genereren uit de OSM-data? Ik heb van een gemeente de lijst met correct gespelde straatnamen en wil die vergelijken met de straatnamen in OSM. Dat is handmatig (pannen op de kaart en opzoeken op de lijst) nogal veel werk. Het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Roeland Douma
Dat is zeker mogelijk door middel van een querie op de database. Over welke gemeente gaat het dan zal ik een lijstje voor je uitdraaien. Groet, --Roeland On Wednesday 23 June 2010 08:46:38 Raymond Nijssen wrote: Is het mogelijk een lijst van alle straatnamen in een gemeente te genereren uit de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Martijn van Exel
Dit doen ze in Duitsland ook al een tijd. Hier bijvoorbeeld Essen: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Essen/Status/Straßenabgleich Kunnen wij ons voordeel mee doen wat betreft de aanpak? Martijn -- Martijn van Exel Senior Researcher / Software Engineer -

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Rob
ik zou meteen html uitdraaien zodat de weg ook klikbaar is ;) Rob Op 23 juni 2010 09:29 schreef Roeland Douma u...@rullzer.com het volgende: Dat is zeker mogelijk door middel van een querie op de database. Over welke gemeente gaat het dan zal ik een lijstje voor je uitdraaien. Groet,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Roeland Douma
Laat ik dat dan maar meteen even code :) Groet, --Roeland On Wednesday 23 June 2010 11:19:32 Rob wrote: ik zou meteen html uitdraaien zodat de weg ook klikbaar is ;) Rob Op 23 juni 2010 09:29 schreef Roeland Douma u...@rullzer.com het volgende: Dat is zeker mogelijk door middel van een

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 23-06-10 12:05, Roeland Douma schreef: Laat ik dat dan maar meteen even code :) Haal het gewoon uit 6pp ;) Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Roeland Douma
Het ging volgens mij om de straatnamen in OSM ;) On Wednesday 23 June 2010 12:14:28 Stefan de Konink wrote: Op 23-06-10 12:05, Roeland Douma schreef: Laat ik dat dan maar meteen even code :) Haal het gewoon uit 6pp ;) Stefan ___ Talk-nl

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 23-06-10 12:17, Roeland Douma schreef: Het ging volgens mij om de straatnamen in OSM ;) Ohja goed punt ;) Zolang we maar geen edits wars krijgen over afkortingen. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Fiets Knooppuntennetwerken

2010-06-23 Thread Lennard
On 23-6-2010 6:53, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Maar het *netwerk* heeft dat knooppunt maar 1 keer, dus waarom zou het meerdere keren toegevoegd moeten worden aan de netwerkrelatie? Omdat de WIKI dat expliciet zegt. Dan vraag ik me serieus af waar je dat leest, en wat

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Lennard
On 23-6-2010 11:17, Martijn van Exel wrote: Dit doen ze in Duitsland ook al een tijd. Hier bijvoorbeeld Essen: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Essen/Status/Straßenabgleich Kunnen wij ons voordeel mee doen wat betreft de aanpak? En in België:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Daniel Paulus
Z'n lijstje vind ik ook erg handig! Die zou ik in een 'fake data' project goed kunnen gebruiken :). Ik ben ook erg benieuwd naar de code die je ervoor gebruikt! Zou je die beschikbaar willen stellen? Groet, Daniel Op 23 jun 2010, om 12:05 heeft Roeland Douma het volgende geschreven: Laat

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Roeland Douma
Raymon heeft het al in zijn mailbox gehad maar nu mijndev weer online is kan ik het ook hier delen. Een lijst van straatnamen per gemeente in te vinden op [1]. En zoals gevraagd ook de source [2], dit maakt gebruikt van de database gegenereerd door osm2pgsql. Groet, --Roeland [1]

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Roeland Douma
Ik ben overigerens van plan dit scriptje elke dag (ergens midden in de nacht ofzo) te draaien dus je zou je edits elke morgen terug moeten zien. Groet, --Roeland On Wednesday 23 June 2010 20:43:51 Roeland Douma wrote: Raymon heeft het al in zijn mailbox gehad maar nu mijndev weer online is

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Andre Engels
2010/6/23 Roeland Douma u...@rullzer.com: Raymon heeft het al in zijn mailbox gehad maar nu mijndev weer online is kan ik het ook hier delen. Een lijst van straatnamen per gemeente in te vinden op [1]. Hij houdt zo te zien op bij Schiedam (de overige gemeenten staan er wel, maar zonder wegen)

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Christ van Willegen
2010/6/23 Roeland Douma u...@rullzer.com: Een lijst van straatnamen per gemeente in te vinden op [1]. Nice script! Maar, ik loop net wat wegen te editten in JOSM, krijg ik een melding: Communication with the OSM server 'http://openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/' timed out, Please retry later. Toch

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Roeland Douma
On Wednesday 23 June 2010 21:11:44 Christ van Willegen wrote: 2010/6/23 Roeland Douma u...@rullzer.com: Een lijst van straatnamen per gemeente in te vinden op [1]. Nice script! Maar, ik loop net wat wegen te editten in JOSM, krijg ik een melding: Communication with the OSM server

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] straatnamen per gemeente?

2010-06-23 Thread Andre Engels
2010/6/23 Roeland Douma u...@rullzer.com: Er was even geen ruimte op de partitie meer. Het scriptje draait nogmaals en over ongeveer 15 minuten zou alles erop moeten staan. Bedankt; ik ben gestart met het vergelijken van de lijst van 's-Hertogenbosch met de lijst bij de kaart op de website van

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-23 Thread Tom Brennan
On 19/06/2010 10:20 PM, John Smith wrote: A little birdy tells me that they think the GA data may suffer similar problems to the SRTM data, in any case will have to look into the licensing, it may not be favourable even if the data isn't being uploaded to OSM. Basically the only options for

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 June 2010 19:39, Tom Brennan webs...@ozultimate.com wrote: The best work on the SRTM data is probably by Sean Williams (Dooghan) on gpsaustralia.net. He has created Garmin IMG files with 5m contours, though with 90m data, 5m is pretty optimistic. Looks nice though.

Re: [talk-au] Qld State Controlled Roads data

2010-06-23 Thread John Smith
I've just updated the wiki and the data file on the server to include operator=mainroads.qld.gov.au this way we can track the number km of roads that are state or local for statistical purposes. I also updated the wiki and the data file yesterday after getting advice on proper attribution.

Re: [Talk-br] Servidor TMS (era: Re: Autorizaç ão para uso de imagens do CBERS 2B (Importante))

2010-06-23 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Le 23/06/2010 06:47, Samuel Vale a écrit : Há um deslocamento nos tiles que inviabiliza utilizá-lo para traçar mapas. Imagino que seja alguma opção de projeção que eu não tenha utilizado. Se alguém identificar uma solução, corrijo a base e faço upload. O Openlayers abre por default com o

Re: [Talk-br] Servidor TMS (era: Re: Autorizaç ão para uso de imagens do CBERS 2B (Importante) )

2010-06-23 Thread Rodrigo Avila
Em 23 de junho de 2010 05:30, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.comescreveu: In JOSM, they can still be used, shifting them interactively, locally adjusting the WMS layer to GPS tracks and existing OSM data. Sorry about the noob question, but how can I shift the WMS layer in JOSM? --

Re: [Talk-br] Servidor TMS (era: Re: Autorizaç ão para uso de imagens do CBERS 2B (Importante ))

2010-06-23 Thread Claudomiro Nascimento Junior
Activate the WMS Layer and click on the shift icon (a box with four arrows inside) on the left button column (Tem um ícone apropriado na barra lateral esquerda) 2010/6/23 Rodrigo Avila rodr...@avila.net.br: Em 23 de junho de 2010 05:30, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com escreveu:

[Talk-br] Fwd: Imagens HRC

2010-06-23 Thread Vitor George
This is the aswers of Julio Dalge, chief of DPI . Jean-Guilhem, the projection and datum are OK, but the images are not georreferenced. We'll need to do this manually. -- Forwarded message -- From: Julio Dalge ju...@dpi.inpe.br Date: 2010/6/23 Subject: Imagens HRC To:

[Talk-br] Fwd: Imagens deslocadas

2010-06-23 Thread Vitor George
-- Forwarded message -- From: Atendimento aos Usuarios do CDSR a...@dgi.inpe.br Date: 2010/6/23 Subject: Re: Imagens deslocadas To: Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com Prezado Sr. Vitor George Referente ao seu e-mail,informamos que as imagens do catálogo têm apenas correção

[Talk-br] Fwd: Mapas das cidades devastadas em PDF

2010-06-23 Thread Vitor George
-- Forwarded message -- From: Thiago Avila tjtav...@gmail.com Date: 2010/6/23 Subject: Mapas das cidades devastadas em PDF To: Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com, guilhermelame...@gmail.com Cc: qsilv...@uol.com.br, Esdras Andrade esdras.andr...@ima.al.gov.br, candido...@gmail.com,

Re: [Talk-br] Importação dos dados da prefeitura d e Goiânia

2010-06-23 Thread Flávio Henrique
Pessoal, boa noite! Recorro novamente à lista para reiterar meu pedido: há alguma ferramenta que auxilie no automação do merge de vias, dado um arquivo osm (ou shp) ? É que os dados das vias da Prefeitura de Goiânia são segmentados, ou seja, uma única via pode estar dividida em 'n' segmentos. Se

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nich t ...?

2010-06-23 Thread André Joost
Am 22.06.10 21:50, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: wie in einem Posting oben richtig vermutet ist oder war der Eigentümer das besagte Unternehmen. Nach meiner unmaßgeblichen Erfahrung sind diese Wege dann aber höchstwahrscheinlich *nicht* öffentlich. Bei städtischen Kleingartenanlagen ist nur das

[Talk-de] Stolpersteine - Tags

2010-06-23 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! wie der eine oder andere von Euch kümmere ich mich seid längerem auch um das Thema Stolpersteine kümmere. In der ML von MV wurde nun angemerkt das die verwendeten Tags, inbesondere historic=memorial zu einer Überladung der Karten führt diese teilweise nicht mehr brauchbar sind.

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 06:10:59PM +0200, o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: ich möchte einmal folgendes zur Diskussion stellen: Vor ca. einer Woche habe ich einen Weg durch einen Kleingartenverein aufgemessen - Am Wegeanfang war ein Tor aber mir ist kein Verbotsschild aufgefallen. Ein

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:55:00AM +0200, Bernd Wurst wrote: Wenn man es nutzt ist das ja gut. Leider gibt es recht viele Leute die nur Wege mappen, ohne sich auf solche nebensächlichen Eigenschaften wie Nutzungsrechte ein zu lassen. Und leider gibt es reichlich mapper die einem schild

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:25:54AM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: Ein Kleingartengebiet ist Privatgelände (gehört typischerweise der Gemeinde oder vielfach der Bahn oder dergl.), allerdings ist es verpachtet an den Kleingartenverein. Der hat also das Recht festzulegen, wer da rein darf und

Re: [Talk-de] Der Post-Box Guesstimator: Wo fehlen Briefk ästen in OSM?

2010-06-23 Thread Peter Körner
Walter Nordmann schrieb: wie aktuell sind denn die daten und wieoft werden die aktualisiert, falls sie nicht direkt aus der db kommen? 1-2 Minuten hinter der Haupt-DB Lg, Peter ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 23.06.2010 09:25, Jochen Topf wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 06:10:59PM +0200, o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: ich möchte einmal folgendes zur Diskussion stellen: Vor ca. einer Woche habe ich einen Weg durch einen Kleingartenverein aufgemessen - Am Wegeanfang war ein Tor aber mir ist kein

[Talk-de] Die Track Seuche

2010-06-23 Thread Chris66
Moin, Meiner Meinung nach sollte jede legal per Auto ansteuerbare Adresse über das Highway-Netz exclusive Tracks erreichbar sein. Der Trend geht aber eher in die Richtung, alles was halbwegs nach Landwirtschaft riecht als Track zu mappen. Beispiel: Albertushof St.Leon ist nur über Tracks

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nich t ...?

2010-06-23 Thread André Joost
Am 23.06.10 09:49, schrieb Florian Lohoff: Sagt Landesverband Westfalen und Lippe der Kleingärtner e.V. Nur gehört die Bahnlandwirtschaft m.W. nicht dazu. Man fühlt sich wohl eher bei http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bkleingg/__1.html $1 (2) 3. aufgehoben. Auch wenn es heute keinen

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:49:11AM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:25:54AM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: Ein Kleingartengebiet ist Privatgelände (gehört typischerweise der Gemeinde oder vielfach der Bahn oder dergl.), allerdings ist es verpachtet an den

Re: [Talk-de] Der Post-Box Guesstimator: Wo fehlen Briefk ästen in OSM?

2010-06-23 Thread Peter Körner
SB79 schrieb: BTW: Der Parcel Pickup Layer (wird wahrscheinlich der Layer für die Packstationen werden) scheint noch nicht so zu funktionieren. Ich bekomme da noch keine Kreise für Köln oder Bonn. Ouuu das Tagging ist da echt eklig.. Habe es jetzt so umgebaut dass alle vending angezeigt

[Talk-de] neue OpenLinkMap

2010-06-23 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Hallo, heute ist nun nach langer Zeit wieder eine neue Version meiner OpenLinkMap fertig geworden. Die Neuerungen: * Bugfix: Beim Schließen eines Popups werden nicht mehr alle Popups geschlossen * Einbindung des JOSM Remote Plugins * Einbindung eines Editlinks für Potlatch * Ein Permalink für

Re: [Talk-de] Der Post-Box Guesstimator: Wo fehlen B riefkästen in OSM?

2010-06-23 Thread Falk Zscheile
Am 22. Juni 2010 22:23 schrieb Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: So hier nun als World-Wide Online-Version http://toolserver.org/~mazder/pboxguesstimator/?zoom=13lat=49.44072lon=7.7624layers=BTT Ist bei leibe nicht perfekt - es werden pro request max. 1000 Objekte zurückgegeben. Falls

Re: [Talk-de] Die Track Seuche

2010-06-23 Thread David Ecker
Hallo, 1. ein Track ist im Wiki definiert als : Ein Weg im Wald oder Feld, der hauptsächlich für die Land-/Forstwirtschaft angelegt wurde und für zweispurige Fahrzeuge geeignet ist. 2. Jedes Grundstueck in Deutschland hat eigentlich einen Anschluss an eine Strasse. 3. Im Wiki zu highway:

Re: [Talk-de] Die Track Seuche

2010-06-23 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Moin Albertushof St.Leon ist nur über Tracks erreichbar: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.25lon=8.63567zoom=16 Der von Nord-Ost kommende Track ist ohne Zeichen 260 versehen und mit einem weißen Schild Zufahrt Albertushof. Da darf also jedermann fahren, auch wer nicht zum Hof will,

Re: [Talk-de] Der Post-Box Guesstimator: Wo fehlen B riefkästen in OSM?

2010-06-23 Thread Peter Körner
Falk Zscheile schrieb: Ist es möglich noch einen Schalter einzubauen, mit dem man nach verschiedenen Betreibern unterscheiden kann. Sonst sieht es an manchen Stellen nach einer hohen Abdeckung aus, tatsächlich stehen dort aber zwei Briefkästen von privaten Postzustellern und jener der

Re: [Talk-de] Der Post-Box Guesstimator: Wo fehlen Briefk ästen in OSM?

2010-06-23 Thread Bodo Meissner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo Peter, offensichtlich wird amenity=post_office nicht ausgewertet. Ich würde davon ausgehen, daß es bei jeder Postfiliale auch einen Briefkasten gibt. Ansonsten wäre das als zusätzliche Ebene sinnvoll. Möglicherweise ist es ein Fehler im

Re: [Talk-de] Der Post-Box Guesstimator: Wo fehlen Briefk ästen in OSM?

2010-06-23 Thread André Riedel
Am 23. Juni 2010 10:29 schrieb Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Falk Zscheile schrieb: Ist es möglich noch einen Schalter einzubauen, mit dem man nach verschiedenen Betreibern unterscheiden kann. Sonst sieht es an manchen Stellen nach einer hohen Abdeckung aus, tatsächlich stehen dort

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:55:55AM +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote: Unternehmen habe keine Privatssphäre ?? Hört sich nach starkem Tobak an, die Diskussion gehört aber vermutlich nicht hierher, Schau Dir http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatsphäre an, da gehts um drei Punkte bei der Privatspähre:

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:55:55AM +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote: Grundsätzlich würde ich mal davon ausgehen, dass man öffentlich bekannte Fakten auch mappen darf. Also wenn man auf das Grundstück selbst darf oder auf einem öffentlich erreichbaren Luftbild was erkennen kann oder von einem

Re: [Talk-de] Der Post-Box Guesstimator: Wo fehlen Briefk ästen in OSM?

2010-06-23 Thread Peter Körner
Bodo Meissner schrieb: offensichtlich wird amenity=post_office nicht ausgewertet. Danke dir, jetzt schon. Lg, Peter ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 22. Juni 2010 21:49 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net: das habe ich dem Herren ja auch versucht klar zu machen - kein Einsehen. Alles Web schlecht aus seiner Sicht! solche Leute gibt es, ich würde die einfach ignorieren. Gruß Martin

Re: [Talk-de] Die Track Seuche

2010-06-23 Thread René Falk
Am 23.06.2010 10:03, schrieb Chris66: Moin, Meiner Meinung nach sollte jede legal per Auto ansteuerbare Adresse über das Highway-Netz exclusive Tracks erreichbar sein. Der Trend geht aber eher in die Richtung, alles was halbwegs nach Landwirtschaft riecht als Track zu mappen. Beispiel:

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nicht ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 23.06.2010 10:37, Jochen Topf wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:55:55AM +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote: Grundsätzlich würde ich mal davon ausgehen, dass man öffentlich bekannte Fakten auch mappen darf. Also wenn man auf das Grundstück selbst darf oder auf einem öffentlich erreichbaren

Re: [Talk-de] Daten auf Verlangen löschen oder nich t ...?

2010-06-23 Thread Martin Czarkowski
Am 23.06.2010 08:24, schrieb André Joost: Insgesamt also so ähnlich wie Friedhöfe (oder ne Vorstufe davon ;-)... Gruß, André Joost +1 Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

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