Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

On 14/07/2016 16:19, Éric Gillet wrote: So if the changeset correct 300 restaurants but 2 are "damaged" by the automated edit, would the edit be bad enough to be reverted or not be done in the first place ? I'd revert it. It's essentially the same as the "trees" example upthread (where the m

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

On 14/07/2016 13:00, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Éric Gillet wrote: That would be slightly faster to execute than the first approach I was suggesting, but then how would you prove that you checked every and all features ? Well, the best way to prove that you checked everything is not to fuck thing

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

On 12/07/2016 17:29, Éric Gillet wrote: So at least one user should reach out to the contributor before involving the DWG ? That would be great but that's not currently the case in my experience. The vast majority of my DWG interactions with other OSM users are "if you see something amiss,

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

On 24/06/2016 14:40, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: This defect has already been reported to their GitHub repository: https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/2902 You've seen https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/3623 though? ("This bugtracker is not actively monitored, b...@maps.me could be used

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

On 22/06/2016 16:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-06-22 17:07 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer >: yet another issue and another type of issue: ... I suspect that this mailing list isn't the best way of logging bugs with MAPS.ME. https://github.com/ma

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

On 21/06/2016 10:12, joost schouppe wrote: The scope for growth of our community with Maps.me is phenomenal. Of course there is room for improvement. But it's never going to be easy to lower the barriers to participation without losing quality. I don't think that it's an explicitly MAPS.ME p

Re: [OSM-talk] How to handle Maps.Me garbage?

On 22/06/2016 14:13, Michael Reichert wrote: I decided not to write a changeset comment because it seems to me to be a waste of time to comment a Maps.Me user's changeset. (There less frequently respond to comments than iD users) Because of the language difference I suspect that the chance of

Re: [OSM-talk] Slipways connected to highways

On 16/05/2016 17:30, Clifford Snow wrote: I've always added slipways to the last node of a service road. Now JOSM is complaining of leisure=slipway connected to a highway. It seem logical to me that the if you wanted to get routing to a boat launch that the node would be on the highway. How do

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

On 23/03/2016 12:22, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: On 16-03-23 12:20:35, Andy Townsend, wrote 0.3K characters saying: On 23/03/2016 12:07, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: Again, that's not the goal if it. As said above, the role is NOT to change tags, but to remove redundancies. It doesn

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

On 23/03/2016 12:07, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: Again, that's not the goal if it. As said above, the role is NOT to change tags, but to remove redundancies. It doesn't matter. All of the screed that I wrote yesterday applies to "redundant data" too - we need to understand how it got there, a

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

ngly suggest that you take a little time out to actually do some real survey-based mapping, and in addition spend a bit of time understanding the human causes of the sorts of problems that you're aiming to detect, and helping those people understand the resulting problems in the data. Don&#x

Re: [OSM-talk] Bug in iD?

On 17/03/2016 22:44, Adrian wrote: A user of the iD editor has added a new way along an existing way, with the two ways sharing the same nodes. In so doing, he has replaced all the nodes of the existing way with new nodes. The old nodes have been deleted. The new nodes are in exactly the same

Re: [OSM-talk] Please check the work of 00crashtest

On 15/03/2016 15:39, Chethan H A wrote: Just to add a few more observations about the user 00crashtest editing behavior. Thanks. If you (or anyone else) thinks that there a might be problem with the edits that they're making right now*, can

Re: [OSM-talk] Please check the work of 00crashtest

. We also had to intervene on a couple of previous occasions (reverting/redacting data and contact about invalid edits by messages/changeset discussions). Best Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [OSM-talk] natural=coastline vs natural=water fix and refresh tiles

On 04/03/2016 10:55, Jérôme Seigneuret wrote: ... It is possible to refresh the base water layer if it is the unique solution? For info just in case you haven't seen it, this previous thread on the "dev" list explains why coastline updates stopped temporarily: https://lists.openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

On 26/02/2016 21:09, Mike Thompson wrote: ... appear to be of very poor quality, or out right vandalism. How should this be handled? In this particular case, the changeset comments suggest it's a remote HOT project ("#hotosm-project-1401#Missin

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

On 26/02/2016 20:55, Mike Thompson wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37315914 Should I just manually delete, or would it be better for someone to do a revert. In a a case where someone has made a few valid edits and then something that obviously isn't, I'd personally start with

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

On 12/02/2016 00:08, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: The correct links are: English: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/6864 Spanish: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864 ... well nearly :) English: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/6864 Spanish: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864 Defau

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

On 11/02/2016 20:43, Michał Brzozowski wrote: Can you tell me what's up with this "This entry is available only in Spanish"? I think people won't care if it got delayed a day later or so. Also weird it's Spanish if you have to aggregate multiple mostly English sources anyway. What seems to hav

Re: [OSM-talk] Applicability of wiki tagging and votes: may, should or must

On 28/01/2016 19:16, David Marchal wrote: Hello, there. On a GitHub issue (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2027#issuecomment-174443685), I've been told that Wiki tagging votes are only advisory and that the community is only invited, neither required nor recommended

Re: [OSM-talk] Wilingness to contribute to OpenStreet

On 28/01/2016 11:17, K2K wrote: > Hi > I'm a second year student of Informatics Institute of Technology Sri Lanka, and I hereby express my willingness to contribute to any on-going developments of OpenStreet . > My fields of expertise are version controlling, Object Oriented programming&designi

Re: [OSM-talk] Dealing with internet_access=wifi

On 06/01/2016 14:18, Jakob Mühldorfer wrote: Hello, according to taginfo "internet_access=wifi" is used almost 80 times globally. Would you agree it is safe to automatically change all of these to "internet_access=wlan"? As I understand it, "wifi" means "one of the 802.11 variants" whereas

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

On 07/01/2016 11:00, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: El 7 ene 2016, a las 07:47, Hans De Kryger > escribió: So i just came across an edit of a user near me that listed the source of his edit as (Google Maps Street View) (1) This is obviously wrong. Google Street Vie

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

On 06/01/2016 13:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: shop=vacant seems a bit of a hack, "vacant" is not a shop type. That's debateable, I'd say it was. "disused:shop=blah" (or "yes") would work too and is used, though not nearly as many as shop=vacant (9k vs 2k for http://taginfo.openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

On 04/01/2016 23:14, John Doe wrote: I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these appears on mapnik. Is prefix abandoned before building=yes reall

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting

On 04/01/2016 10:45, Lester Caine wrote: MANY of the tools listed on the switch2osm site are no longer actively supported by their originators, I can't speak for everything on there, but I do know that I tested (and tweaked slightly) the "manual 14.04 instructions" about a month ago because

Re: [OSM-talk] switch2osm documentation upgrade

On 04/01/2016 15:51, Daniel Koć wrote: ... So my second question is: what do you think about upgrading part of the site (with installation instructions) the way I just proposed - or maybe some other way? (as is clear from Richard's message above) I'm not the maintainer of the "switch2osm"

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting

d problems with the 14 LTS.On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: ... well I wouldn't say "changed"; 14.04 LTS is still the current LTS and is supported t

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting

... well I wouldn't say "changed"; 14.04 LTS is still the current LTS and is supported through 2019 (though some tile server dependencies may "move on" and make it not a good idea before then, like happened with 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server on Ubuntu 15.10

The "switch2osm manual 14.04 lts" instructions should work ok (on 14.04, obviously). I ran through them on a clean server in December and fixed a couple of problems (missing "sudo"s, changed how to extract one of

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

On 15/12/2015 17:36, Clifford Snow wrote: ... Is there someone on the list that is familiar with China, Japan, Spain, Poland and Thailand that could fix those? For info I did comment (in English) on one of the changesets that added the tag in Japan: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

On 19/11/2015 10:16, Ben Abelshausen wrote: You can go the tasking manager and see exactly what the goal of the mapping activity was, who is the admin that created the task and who validates, what mappers contributed and so on. Can you please explain where any of that is documented within O

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

On 10/11/2015 12:15, GerdP wrote: Now what is meant with oneway=yes;no (or no;yes) ? (at the risk of stating the obvious) that's likely to be a merged way, where a new user didn't spot a difference in a key that they weren't looking at before merging two ways. Just look at the changeset that

Re: [OSM-talk] Unrepentant Vandal

On 07/11/2015 10:36, Andrew Errington wrote: Hi all, Here is a link to a random point on a light rail system: http://osm.org/go/546Jvddtd--?m= Soon after it opened I travelled on it from end to end, collecting gps data and photos of all the station signs. There are two railway lines, one in ea

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

On 06/11/2015 20:42, Andrew Guertin wrote: An in-between example: on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38089492/history, highway=stepping_stones was replaced with highway=path. While this helps consumers use the data, it loses information that should have been kept (perhaps with surface=* or

Re: [OSM-talk] Improved new Icon set for Open Street map

On 02/11/2015 16:53, Nasir Khan wrote: ... One thing i faced every time and asked from many that, is there a way to improve the icon set to make the map more attractive. (apologies if I'm stating the obvious here, but...) "OpenStreetMap" isn't just "the standard map that you see at openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] recent changes in rendering the map make it worse

On 23/09/2015 11:53, joost schouppe wrote: ... I don't know how we could expect OSM-carto to reflect all our needs. Apart from being a tool for mappers (i.e. showing as much as possible), it also wants to be pretty and useful for non-mappers. Trying to make everyone happy might make everyone un

[OSM-talk] Railways yet again (was "THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject")

May I respectfully suggest that before anyone sends yet another reply to this thread that they ask "Has this point of view been put forward already?". Everyone is well aware that there is disagreement (and sometimes even disagreement over what to disagree over), but people are rarely won over

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

On 27/08/2015 10:02, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: ... the OP hasn't given a list of guilty deletions so it's hard to judge how justified each deletion was. Back in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2015-August/073669.html I had a look at what caused the current flurry of discussion.

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

On 20/08/2015 16:25, Ben Laenen wrote: Thing is that UK won't ever be happy with another colour scheme and the rest of the world won't ever be happy with a UK scheme. ... and then in the UK we can start arguing about and "English" style vs a "Scottish" one and then a "Yorkshire" one vs "Surrey

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

On 20/08/2015 02:16, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: According to the github discussion there is an "overwhelming consensus" [2] on moving from current rainbow colour scheme for roads to a red-yellow only scheme. I don't think you'll ever get an "overwhelming consensus" from such a large "co

[OSM-talk] Trees (was: OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release)

‎There's lots of discussion on Openstreetmap-Carto's github about this, which explains what's possible with the "standard" style right now, but if you're not subject to those restrictions you can certainly render leaf_type now - I've been doing it for my own use for some time (I wrote a diary en

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On 11/08/2015 06:09, Russ Nelson wrote: Okay, this has to stop. ... Here's what seems to have happened. Via P1 undelete you can see: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/11896835/history Someone's spotted that the TIGER way is iffy (via P1 it's possible to see that it clearly was), and they're

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

On 23/07/2015 19:49, Lester Caine wrote: On 23/07/15 19:34, Andy Townsend wrote: It's actually "farmland" rather than farm, and therefore tagged correctly. If it was me I'd use a lightly colour for farmland so that farmyards (also tagged correctly in that area) stand out a

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

On 23/07/2015 19:13, Lester Caine wrote: The random use of FARM for large areas is totally inappropriate, and personally I'd remove the bulk of those areas ... or cover the rest of the UK. Using 'farm' for the central farm area makes much more sense and is what is the normal standard south of 'B

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for well mapped rural area and well mapped town/city

On 20/07/2015 11:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for well mapped rural area. I located some places but all are either missing major features (like part of landuse) or quality of mapping (especially landuses) is poor. ... and one with both landuse and field boundaries just west of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for well mapped rural area and well mapped town/city

On 20/07/2015 11:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for well mapped rural area. I located some places but all are either missing major features (like part of landuse) or quality of mapping (especially landuses) is poor. One place where rural landuse is mapped is here: http://www.openst

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 131, Issue 10

‎You may need to explain in a bit more detail what you're trying to do - what buttons you're pressing, what you'd expect to happen, and what actually does happen. it'd probably make more sense to ask a question at help.osm.org (you can use your normal osm.org login there) or on IRC - the main "

Re: [OSM-talk] Students editing for assignments

On 03/07/2015 19:00, Michał Brzozowski wrote: I ask that we create some guidelines for that type of editing, as we're no sandbox [3]; [3] We should definitely make one, like one that Wikipedia has. Although it wasn't really designed for that, we have got http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

On 02/05/15 18:01, Colin Smale wrote: A bit of a meta-discussion I wonder why this topic is not going the same way as the debate on talk-gb last November-December in which it was proposed to tidy up and normalise various spelling variants? There was a lot of vehement opposition to any a

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