Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

2023-01-18 Thread Paul Johnson
Ever been lost someplace where that's the only obvious set of fixed landmarks? On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 9:16 PM john whelan wrote: > Perhaps you could expand on the benefits of mapping them? > > Thanks John > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 10:09 PM stevea, wrote: > >> I'd like to say "oh, please..." be

Re: [OSM-talk] Please SWITCH to Mailman 3 & hyperkitty

2020-12-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 1:51 PM ipswichmapper--- via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > You are right. If updating to mailman 3 will take monrhs of work it is > probably not worth trying to make any changes right now. > Recurring OpenStreetMap theme: If fixing something takes absolutely any

Re: [OSM-talk] FLOSS alt? | Re: reddit AMA with some OSMF Board members. 15:00Z 9 Nov

2020-10-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 5:03 AM Rory McCann wrote: > On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, at 10:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Rory, I am absolutely sure there was no bad intent in the choice of > > format and platform, but given where this discussion went so fast, I > > believe the setting should be reco

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Blue Button download

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 1:41 PM Rory McCann wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, at 8:21 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > Can you confirm that we can leave the recordings on the server and are > > able to link to the recordings for other sites, like the wiki? > > No, you can't rely on it like that. We only

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Hands Off !, respect my (our) space

2020-08-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:50 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > In ID, on your profile page is, Other nearby users, and the home location, > map > > the point is other locals based on my (our) edits know where we (I) live, > but come on > > don’t edit the building

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] VANDALISM !

2020-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 8:36 PM Clay Smalley wrote: > For those who aren't following, the DWG recently decided on a two-day ban > for the person who posted this, for the exact behavior they're exhibiting > right now: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3850 > > jdd 3, please take a break. Y

Re: [OSM-talk] This needs to be voted upon. (was: Re: Separating all metadata from coordinates in OSM into a wikibase instance)

2020-08-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:03 AM Mateusz Konieczny via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Before going to vote it would need to demonstrate some sort of clear > benefit and > consensus that it is reasonable. > For this, as well as my take on this

Re: [OSM-talk] Proper use of route relations?

2020-08-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:24 AM Mike Thompson wrote: > I have come across a number of examples[0] of route relations where all > the trails in a given park have been put into a single relation. Is this a > recommended use for route relations? > Nope. It's wrong. Each route should have its own

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Johnson
Doesn't OpenStreetCam have similar corporate ownership problems, with the additional problematic aspect that the toolchain's been neglected since Telenav cut 'em loose? On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:23 PM Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Paul Johnson: > > Great. How'

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Johnson
Great. How's this affect those of us who trust Facebook about as far as we can throw it? On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 5:37 PM Sérgio V. wrote: > > https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-deals-mapillary/facebook-acquires-crowdsourced-mapping-company-mapillary-idUKKBN23P3N6 > > > - - - - - - - - -

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] fake, edit, fake map.

2020-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
Yeah, there's plenty that's wrong with Amazon's mapping (like basically just straight out importing GPX from Amazon trucks and not bothering to check for completeness or alignment at all, something I routinely see). But armchair mapping in and of itself isn't the problem. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at

Re: [OSM-talk] Large cadastral polygons

2020-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 6:32 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 13/6/20 1:37 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:28 AM Florian Lohoff wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 02:14:15PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via talk >> wrote: >> >

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:31 AM Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 03:45:17PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 12.06.20 15:22, Dave F via talk wrote: > > > There is a lot of negativity about large changsets, but assessment of > > > them should be based on quality, not

[OSM-talk] Large cadastral polygons

2020-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:28 AM Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 02:14:15PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > > > > > > > > Jun 12, 2020, 13:59 by f...@zz.de: > > > > > Changeset envelopes which span more than 100s of km² are broken. > > > > > Except cases where you edit/

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 6:07 AM Frederik Ramm wrote: > I wonder if it would be feasible or desirable for editors to warn users > if they are at risk of creating country/world-spanning changesets. > Something like "you have unsaved edits more than 500km away from where > you are editing at the mom

Re: [OSM-talk] CyclOSM Lite a new cycling infrastructure map layer

2020-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:22 AM James wrote: > and if pedestrians are allowed on it: > > highway=path > segregated=no > Maybe. If it clearly has lanes marked out, I tend to consider this a cycleway even if there's no sidewalk as it was clearly built for bicycles a forethought with minimal, if

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 3:59 PM Greg Troxel wrote: > Dave F via talk writes: > > > In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the > > quality of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of > > errors as any other contributors, including experienced ones. > > > > U

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dave F wrote: > In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the quality > of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of errors as any > other contributors, including experienced ones. > > Unsure why he thinks OSMF should be keeping a

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:37 AM Jmapb wrote: > I try to keep an eye on them and fix the errors and the most egregious > road geometry. When I leave changeset comments, they generally reply, > but there are so many of them that it feels like trying to cook rice one > grain at a time. Very much

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 6:07 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > 3) Amazon Logistics and a revolving door team of one-edit-and-done spam > accounts keeps throwing paid contributions into Oklahoma that are of poorly > aligned, largely fictional and low quality. I'm stuck cleaning up in a &g

[OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
So, you all know at this point that I've been heavily invested in editing OSM and contributing to my maximum activity, less as a need to help a charity and more of an obligation to the public to do the most good with the short time I have on this planet. However, I've had a few events come up that

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:59 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong >> wrote: >> >>> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on &

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong wrote: > How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the > wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks. > The sign itself would be highway=traffic_sign, traffic_sign=maxpseed, maxspeed=traffic_signals. Fo

Re: [OSM-talk] Interstate naming in the United States

2020-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:32 AM Jack Armstrong wrote: > I'm not an expert in the field of naming U.S. interstate highways. I'd > like some opinions from others with more experience with this. > > A new OSM user has just "named" Interstate 25 (I-25) as the "CanAm > Highway". > It's been a while s

Re: [OSM-talk] Web editors and lane rendering

2020-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:45 PM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > 19 Feb 2020, 05:27 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > Could we get some lane editing/rendering in these editors to cut down on > this kind of unintentionally erratic mapping? > > Not sure whatever Potlatch is still developed, > I would hop

[OSM-talk] Web editors and lane rendering

2020-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm working on editing I 405 in Los Angeles, California for lane guidance, and at almost 150 miles not counting ramps, it's a big effort to go through, so it's taken enough time that others are editing around where I started. No big deal, I'm fine with that, *except...* I'm consistently noticing

Re: [OSM-talk] Teaching cyclists how to contribute to OSM

2020-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 6:28 PM john whelan wrote: > Locally in Ottawa many paths are multiuse there is a path many kilometers > long along the Ottawa river that has a line marked down the center and is > very much used by cyclists but according to NCC who own the path it is > multi-use not bicyc

Re: [OSM-talk] Teaching cyclists how to contribute to OSM

2020-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 5:06 PM James wrote: > Bike advocacy group in Ottawa created this: > > > https://github.com/BikeOttawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/blob/master/README.md > > as well as a crowd sourced map like the one for winter bike trails that > allows a user to submit if a path is win

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:man_made=embankment

2020-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:28 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > What does this mean ? > > “should be tagged on a way drawn with the *lower side on right side* of > way direction” > The downhill side of the embankment is to the right of the way. ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Too subjective & problematic Re: no-go-areas

2020-01-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 6:34 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > In the USA a postal code is not actually an area, but a set of > addresses. Often they are all in one area, but sometimes the area is > not clearly defined. This is partially why postal codes are usually > just added to the POI directly in

Re: [OSM-talk] Too subjective & problematic Re: no-go-areas

2020-01-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 11:49 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > 12 Jan 2020, 18:39 by snusmumriken.map...@runbox.com: > > On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 08:35 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:47 AM Snusmumriken < > snusmumriken.map...@ru

Re: [OSM-talk] Too subjective & problematic Re: no-go-areas

2020-01-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:47 AM Snusmumriken wrote: > On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 21:22 +0100, Martin Trautmann via talk wrote: > > On 20-01-02 12:23, pangoSE wrote: > > > > > A map cannot solve a lack of general awareness when visiting a > > > new/unknown place. Going to the mountains to hike can also

Re: [OSM-talk] Too subjective & problematic Re: no-go-areas

2020-01-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 2:25 PM Martin Trautmann via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > On 20-01-02 12:23, pangoSE wrote: > > > A map cannot solve a lack of general awareness when visiting a > > new/unknown place. Going to the mountains to hike can also be dangerous > > if you are not well pr

Re: [OSM-talk] no-go-areas

2020-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:10 PM Mark Wagner wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 16:14:30 +0100 > Martin Trautmann wrote: > > > hi all, > > > > did you read about the Suisse tourist couple which was shot because > > they got lost in a Brasilian favela? > > > > NZZ (Neue Zürcher Zeitung) from Tuesday 31

Re: [OSM-talk] Changing OSM Username is easy | Re: Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:58 AM Rory McCann wrote: > On 03/11/2019 19:19, Blake Girardot wrote: > > I am not happy about it and I could get my osm username changed > > ... > > If you have a username that is tied to a public or other used name of > > some sort, my advice is to ask the user name

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetCam to Mapillary?

2019-09-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:37 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure >> you can from Mapillary, but never felt the need to do so. I'm glad they >> are >> parked there and I don't have to worry about storing them >> > > Two notes of caution to this remark by Polyglot: > 1) On Mapillary you

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetCam to Mapillary?

2019-09-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Is there a good way to export all your data from OpenStreetCam, in order to consolidate it on a Mapillary account? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways divided by paint?

2019-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Context is important. If it's being controlled as a separate way (like an angled deceleration or acceleration lane, or a flush median porkchop, or the gore on a median bullnose), that's a good candidate for placement=transition. Keep in mind this gets super messy if you dont take context and inte

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetCam versatility

2019-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 6:39 PM Martijn van Exel wrote: > Paul, > You can upload any image you want to OpenStreetCam if you think it’s > useful for mappers. What kind of ’support’ are you looking for? > Martijn > > I did notice that it tends to lock to roads. I was wondering if it would deliver

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetCam versatility

2019-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Is OSC only concerned with street level imagery, or does it also support cycleways, paths, pedestrian features, etc? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:29 PM Greg Troxel wrote: > Yuri Astrakhan writes: > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:22 AM Mateusz Konieczny < > matkoni...@tutanota.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I think a country relation should describe how the specific country > think > >> of its borders. So if two countrie

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:09 PM Tom Hughes wrote: > On 01/10/2018 19:54, Richard wrote: > > > The messages go straight into a dedicated gmail inbox without any > > filters. > > As far as I know gmail will only ever reject messages that contain > > what looks to it like executable programs - attach

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Paul Johnson
It's not just that, but it's across a large number of gmail (or gsuite) users, also meeting a certain ratio of users who reported what they got as spam. On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:03 PM James wrote: > I get it too, it might be rejecting them because the mailing list is > sending too many emails to

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 16:02 Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Wednesday 22 August 2018, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > > > Specifying addr:street on a building that does not have an address > > > is either pointless or non-verifiable. > > > > But this happens here :-) > > Sometimes they are big build

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Sounds fine by me. Seems there's a decent sized contingency working the wiki independently of how things are actually tagged anymore, it's been getting hard to point to the wiki as a usable reference for a couple years now. On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 05:08 Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > So basing on your op

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > 3. Jun 2018 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > > > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny < > matkoni...@tutanota.com> wrote: > >> I am looking for an application for Android displaying >> amenity=drinking_water >> loc

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I am looking for an application for Android displaying > amenity=drinking_water > locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid > buying plastic bottles > just to almost immediately throw it out. > > Any simple

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #404 2018-04-10-2018-04-16

2018-04-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 1:16 AM, weeklyteam wrote: > The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 404, Week not found. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Large number of seemingly automated, non-SEO spam edits

2018-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
So what was the story? On Mar 13, 2018 22:06, "Ethan Nelson" wrote: > Hi all, > > > We've heard from the mappers and have (hopefully) solved the issue. > > > Thank you for your vigilance! > > > Best, > > Ethan aka FTA with the DWG > > > ___ > talk mail

[OSM-talk] Large number of seemingly automated, non-SEO spam edits

2018-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Seem to be getting a large number of spam edits all with comments matching aa, where a is any single lowercase letter and b is any single digit, have appeared in the last 48 hours. So far the items being mapped have had name=* matching the same pattern, area=yes, and not much of anything e

Re: [OSM-talk] US Highway 266

2018-03-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Toby Murray wrote: > To start off with, meet Creek Turnpike: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1250473 > > The section of Creek Turnpike that runs from US 64 east to Oklahoma > highway 351 (the section that hooks south around the "Broken Arrow" > label) has

Re: [OSM-talk] US Highway 266

2018-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
Not exactly analogous to this situation. On Feb 21, 2018 07:13, "Martin Koppenhoefer" wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 21. Feb 2018, at 13:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Both. > > > > > > I’m asking because we have differen

Re: [OSM-talk] US Highway 266

2018-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
Both. On Feb 21, 2018 05:57, "Martin Koppenhoefer" wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 19. Feb 2018, at 13:54, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > 36 of which have been his inability to deal with the Liberty Parkway > rename by the state legislature

[OSM-talk] US Highway 266

2018-02-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Can we get a block, perhaps permanently, on this user? 36 edits have been bad, out of 38 total. User does not appear to be reasonable in various changeset threads, 36 of which have been his inability to deal with the Liberty Parkway rename by the state legislature from over a decade ago. It's jus

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> On 18/02/18 18:04, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> OK, so what can we do about this problem? For example, go to Jenks, >>> Oklahoma. Search for Walmart. First resu

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 18/02/18 18:05, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Grant Slater < >> openstreet...@firefishy.com <mailto:openstreet...@firefishy.com>> wrote: >> >> How about someone

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Grant Slater wrote: > > How about someone in the community organises a Beauty Parade / Cross > Comparison of different open OpenStreetMap GeoCoders? > How about search against multiple geocoders instead of just Nominatim and GeoNames?

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 18/02/18 17:34, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On the OSM homepage, can we use the visible area (or maybe that plus an >> exploded offset to a larger surrounding bounds) as a bonding box to be >> passed to Nominatim

[OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

2018-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
In the diatribe (no disrespect meant, since it did bring up some relevant points that we can use constructively, simply a description of the tone) that emacsen posted last week that we've surely all read by now, he does bring up one point that I think we can work on for fairly immediate improvement

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

2018-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 4:29 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2018-02-17 10:56, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > >> This article is on the front page of the Slashdot today: >> >> Fri 16 February 2018 "Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble" >> >> https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat

2018-01-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Andrew Buck wrote: > It is a great little tool. Simple, but surprisingly effective. It > actually works amazingly well when coupled with a voice chat program. In > HOT we use mumble for voice and the geochat plugin combined with that > allows mappers to "point" t

[OSM-talk] GeoChat

2018-01-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Is GeoChat down or defunct now? I haven't been able to connect to it in a couple days now. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] prolific vandalism by a single user

2017-12-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Walter Nordmann wrote: > add some more changeset-discussions on newer CS. > > if he/she still does not react, send a mail to DWG (d...@osmfoundation.org) > and describe the problem. they will force the user to respect your comment > https://www.mail-archive.com/t

[OSM-talk] prolific vandalism by a single user

2017-12-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Keep an eye out on http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zowie%20Polie/history It's been a few times now that I've seen this user bulk-rename wide swaths of the map, latest victim was Amarillo, which was renamed Boy's Bathroom Tascosa Drive In. Can't seem to find any rhyme or reason for this user's e

Re: [OSM-talk] Pokemon GO now uses OSM globally - influx of new users

2017-12-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > FYI, Pokemon GO now uses OSM not only to generate spawns, but also to > display the in-game map. The news broke out on the web, especially on sites > like Reddit. > > There is a spike of new users in some countries, like Brazil and USA >

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-11-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:05 PM, ajt1...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> On 30/11/2017 13:46, Daniel Koć wrote: >>> >>>>

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-11-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:05 PM, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: > On 30/11/2017 13:46, Daniel Koć wrote: > >> 1. Currently leisure=nature_reserve (old scheme) and boundary=* (new >> scheme) are frequently tagged in parallel, and it looks like the old scheme >> is used as a hack just to make it visible

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-11-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: > Hi, > > I'm thinking about changes in rendering of protected areas on osm-carto > and I wanted to give community a hint, because it's a popular kind of > objects. There is a fresh discussion about it from this comment on: > > https://github.com

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23

2017-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Éric Gillet wrote: > Can someone "claim ownership" of a wiki page for example by being the > first to write it, or being the most close geographically to the feature > described ? > I'm generally disinclined to say yes on this, by virtue of having a Wikipedia ba

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23

2017-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Éric Gillet wrote: > 2017-10-28 14:29 GMT+02:00 Ilya Zverev : > >> [Philippe Verdy's] number of edits makes his work virtually unverifyable >> and unrevertable. >> > > OSM is a do-o-cracy; blaming people (especially people investing a lot of > time) for their impl

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23

2017-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
For someone not familiar, what seems to be the problem? This is apparently unrelated to Weekly OSM, which you replied, so I'm seriously confused here. Granted, we can all be hard to work with from time to time (and I'm going to include myself intentionally given that some of my interactions have

Re: [OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

2017-09-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Jinal Foflia wrote: > I'd suggest WOSM or WD-OSM :) > I think the World Organization for the Scouting Movement beat us to WOSM. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Decline in accuracy of capture date metadata in Bing imagery

2017-07-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > Hey this is a topic that I care about - It turns out, you are already > chipping in some money for high resolution orthoimagery! > > OK state Geographic Information Council > http://okmaps.onenet.net/index.html > > OK state GIS Portal: > http

Re: [OSM-talk] Decline in accuracy of capture date metadata in Bing imagery

2017-07-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > A contact in Microsoft said that the Bing imagery is made up of multiple > images which results in the date range. > > The imagery we are getting has improved over time, although it seems at a > snails pace. I'm sure if we were paying for im

[OSM-talk] Requesting block on "US Highway 266"

2017-06-24 Thread Paul Johnson
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/US%20Highway%20266 User is repeatedly incorrectly renaming the Liberty Parkway in Tulsa, their only edits. Efforts on several changesets to reach out have resulted in no response. Signage on the turnpike is consistent with the 2004 renaming of this southern loo

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Complete

2017-06-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 9:06 AM, James wrote: > Mean while in other common wealth countries like Canada or Australia, it's > not economically viable to pave every road. This is a very closed view on > the world we live in. > Heck, that's pretty true in the US as well; I actually did the research

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > So I think we are all talking about low-quality anonymous notes here, > and perhaps the way forward is to stop having anonymous notes. We > could even let people sign up for a notes-only account (with 2-way > email) without agreeing to the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Dave F wrote: > > On 26/05/2017 14:43, Florian Lohoff wrote: > >> >> Instead of complaining and continuing the bullshit - close it? Its a >> single click - easy as it is ... We want the feedback and the barrier >> should be low - accept a bad signal to noise rat

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Dave F wrote: > (Could repliers please 'To:' the OSM list *not* the personal address of > the sender) > Drifting OT for the thread, it'd help a *lot* if gmail would get onto the "reply-to-list" bandwagon already (but they probably won't thanks to Google Groups).

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2017-05-26 11:56 GMT+02:00 Dave F : > >> Quantity is not quality, as you note above. > > > > Quality concerns are part of the reason why notes were introduced: to give > an easy feedback possibility without a risk to damage actual ma

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Dave F wrote: > On 26/05/2017 09:43, Florian Lohoff wrote: > >> >> So who is at fault? The one mentioning somethings missing - or the one >> putting some information into the map without closing the note? >> > > I think you're missing the point. There are a large

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:43 AM, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 09:17:50PM +0100, Dave F wrote: > > Yeah, but how many of them are useful? I spend far too much of my > > OSM time mopping up irrelevant, out of date & inaccurate info. Many > > notes are indicating locations which a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Dave F wrote: > Yeah, but how many of them are useful? I spend far too much of my OSM time > mopping up irrelevant, out of date & inaccurate info. Many notes are > indicating locations which already exist such as building names & parks. > What devices are being us

[OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

2017-05-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Anybody else notice the odometer rolled over on OSM Notes? http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/100 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:38 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > ok, multiple from in a relation will solve this. > Isn't it a problem that some "from"s do not end in some "intersection"s ? Perhaps 3 intersection roles, with the single carriageway segment between the dual carriageways being the third inter

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > >> to: the collection of ways one can travel to after stopping/giving > >> way/waiting for traffic signal. This would include the from way so > >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > So would a stop sign / give way sign /traffic signal then be mapped as > > stop_position: node where on the street does one have to stop/give > way/wait for traffic signal > My thinking on this is stop_position isn't necessary as, unlike publ

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On Sun, 7 May 2017 01:57:54 -0500 > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > I think it's time that we seriously reconsider how stop signs, yield > > signs and traffic calming devices are handled in all but the most > &g

Re: [OSM-talk] DigitalGlobe imagery for OSM editing

2017-05-10 Thread Paul Johnson
nds on your location. > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Kevin Bullock >> wrote: >> >>> On behalf of DigitalGlobe: I’m pleased to announce the availability of >>> two new imagery layers from

Re: [OSM-talk] DigitalGlobe imagery for OSM editing

2017-05-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Kevin Bullock wrote: > On behalf of DigitalGlobe: I’m pleased to announce the availability of two > new imagery layers from DigitalGlobe. These are available now in the new iD > Editor 2.2. release and will be soon available in JOSM. > How frequently will this ima

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 2:25 AM, Jo wrote: > What about a type=traffic_sign relation? > > Where traffic_sign could be stop, give_way, parking > I was thinking the typical highway=* tags for highway=stop, highway=traffic_signals and highway=give_way. > In case of a stop sign, we could include th

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 2:12 AM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > > Do you know of a case where you would have a traffic calming device > only affecting one direction, but not already have a reason to map > each road direction as a separate way? > Somewhat commonly. Oklahoma and Texas have a strong tende

[OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-07 Thread Paul Johnson
I think it's time that we seriously reconsider how stop signs, yield signs and traffic calming devices are handled in all but the most simple (all approaches to the affected node apply) cases. This largely after having a protracted discussion with one person about nodes lacking direction and this

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate > sidewalks and sidewalks separate from cycle ways ? Or are there > reasons to treat sidewalk differently ? > Yes, if it's separated by a curb or median from the rest of the street.

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Tobias Zwick wrote: > Hi > > I wonder, does anyone know a QA tool out there that finds duplicate > cycleways? > > With duplicate, I mean cycleways that are both > - tagged as cycleway=* on a highway=* way and > - mapped as a separate way parallel to the street wi

Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon source tags preferred method

2017-03-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:06 AM, nwastra wrote: > Putting the sources on the objects has been deprecated for a while. The > source should be put on the changeset only. If you are doing edits that > involve several different sources, it is best to split the changes up > into different changesets.

Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to vandalism

2017-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Yves wrote: > Interesting, I didn't know such patrolling took place at a country scale > in OSM. Have you revert/re-map stats? > > However with your point 1)you have an idea. > How about a service rendering the area affected by an edit before 'commit'? > This prev

Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to vandalism

2017-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > 2017-03-16 16:00 GMT-03:00 Mike N : > > On 3/16/2017 2:04 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> > >> And in vandalism, I would also distinguish between teenage doodles > >> ("penis! ha ha ha!"), and serious concerted efforts to harm OSM. > > > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to vandalism

2017-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Michael Reichert wrote: > I can second that. I did Pokémon cleaning in Germany. The majority of > them doesn't edit OSM a second time. > In defense of PoGo for a moment... I've actually been fairly impressed with this in my region. We've had a few new casual ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to vandalism

2017-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Dave F wrote: > > On 16/03/2017 17:13, James wrote: > >> People can't even be bothered to review osmcha, you think people will >> want to approve changesets? >> >> > Could that be because it's not the very user friendly site? The filter > options are overly compl

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