There are 2 solutions for this Steve dilemma:
1. not ask for these little, tiny things and create a real free
map...
2. hire an expensive lawyer and pursue the criminals
Common wake up, this 2014, and if you have gold (the map) in your hands,
don't expect to be treated like a
Some quotes from this thread :
Clifford, to make this very short: this is NOT acceptable. See the last
board minutes.
And I'm very tired of people trying to weasel around the absolute
minimal requirements we pose on reuse of OSM data.
No comment on this one ... who cares if you are tired ?
Giving the world a point of Access to OSM, like the OSMF, BoD,
and whatever steering committee, group or other entity,
give outsiders the idea that OSMF owns OSM, which is not true,
By obeying such request without objections
we give others the idea that we are defenseless.
Instead OSMF should
If there were no BoD, but OSM were still a true crowd driven
organization, there would not have been a place to address this
notice
Put up a tree and you are sure to catch wind !
Geert
Van: Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org]
Verzonden: vrijdag 1 februari 2013 19:07
Aan: Manfred
Martin wrote:
The terms and conditions apply to who uses the Google service,
Do they actually ? If their terms would state that you owe Google
one dollar for each picture, would that hold in court ?
In what way the current terms are different from asking money
Any pay site makes you pay
Just guess who controls the servers and domain name ?
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Van: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 18 september 2012 19:56
Aan: OSM
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Grant Slater
Messages were sent on September 14th and 13th about the need to use a
dedicated account. A previous note was sent in March reminding them in
the
context of a note about a broken upload of 50k nodes.
And he didn't listen to Big Big Brother who warned him twice...
Is this a crowd sourced OPEN
Reputed manufacturer of RF equipment Rohde Schwarz
has applied OSM maps in firmware in their portable
RS DDF007 Direction Finder for tracking down
(illegal) sources of interference.
Their brochure states that OSM currently is license-free,
which apparently is a commercial translation
Then we should let it alone and bow for the
international common denominator of forbidden
subjects and stop mapping
fugitive camps
military installations
war monuments
coffee shops
governmental buildings
or whatever any country will put on the list
of forbidden to map ???
Isn't there a need
What is OSM's policy in mapping military installations...
cetest
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to insert into fosm, but it seems
that it's not easy to find erased works ;((
The change
Gert (cetest)
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Van: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 23 augustus 2012 20:22
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC: talk
+1
It's the contributor terms that made me refuse to accept.
Not ODBL. I can see the both the advantages and drawbacks
of ODBL but these are not a major problem.
For me the CT has been a problem.
I principally refuse to sign a contract where I can be held legally
responsible
for data
Now the map cleaning phase has been completed (according to the message
of the day in JOSM)
Per today 8/9/2012 I still find most of my contributions that were
contributed under
the CC-BY-SA license in the new map, mostly simply cutted pasted
This time I focused on my contributions in
TomTom is right, OSM is still a immature product.
That may change, but it isn't yet. But for a few Garmins
serious routing on OSM is a hazardous enterprise.
Even in the Netherlands, one of the countries with
a high completion rate, road classification is NOT
consistent, so are the deafault
Just a little drop note that both of the editors that
actually performed some ODbL cutpaste actions
to OSM in the Netherlands have contacted me
to ensure me that they did not intend to falsify
the taunted data, and
that both of them insist on using independent data sources
such as BING and
Apparently this ownership is more complex then
at first sight.
A way is defined by its nodes and its tags.
Maarten only took a look at the tags.
cetest did not only add a residential tag, but
created the nodes (Version 1) that defines this
particular way with GPS acquired data,
later assisted
AM
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!
On 2012-05-29 10:43, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
wrote:
Apparently this ownership is more complex then at first sight.
A way is defined by its nodes and its tags.
Maarten only took a look
I am really astonished about the way some users on this list
react to a claim to respect (my and CC-by-SA) copyright .
The whole business of changeing license IS about copyright.
If there is only a single grain of non-respect to copyright in your
heads
(those that are addressed, do
I did not give you permission to share
a private conversation on the list.
That is also about copyrights, Davie.
Gert
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Van: Thomas Davie [mailto:tom.da...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:43 AM
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC
[mailto:emilie.laff...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:19 PM
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC: Thomas Davie; talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!
Hello,
First of all, let me just say it is indeed impolite to share private
After having been banned from OSM for not signing the CT, my
contributions, that have been well received by the community in the past
have been removed by the april 1st license shift.
The Foundation has called anyone in the community to reduce lost by
remapping the concerned areas.
Gremmen
CC: talk@openstreetmap.org; osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:42 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
[ ... ]
However, it was not meant that the data were simply to be copied, deleted
If you have been thinking about ODBL and its
function in OSM, the ultimate conclusion is that
you need to support SOPA.
OSM want to have its contents protected (to a minimum, I admit)
by a license (CC-BY-SA or OBL), principally based on the legal system of
defense of intellectual property. SOPA
Frederick showed us some of the problems of OSM itself (well done !),
pragmatic problems needing to be solved for OSM to survive, but once
solved do not change fundamentally change anything to OSM.
That is ok if OSM is perfect for the next 100 years or so, but
that will not be the case I believe.
I think it's relevant that node changes as suggested
should involve stand alone nodes only (such as POI).
Once they are part of a structure of say a building or a road, water
or any area, the nodes should be considered a composition rather
then 4 nodes.
While the underlying structure is a
Just as a warning: replacing non-compliant nodes does
not mean just placing another node adjacent to it.
That's copying (or tracing).
This O-trick suggestion invites our members to fraude.
Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the previous
owner, just as copying from google would violate
[mailto:o...@raggedred.net]
Verzonden: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:56 PM
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Onderwerp: Just shut up
Gert,
Every time you send one of your stupid rants to OSM you just make a fool
of yourself. Unlike you, we know what we are doing and, unlike you, we
You are right Richard.
This O-trick actually is just a shortcut for delete and (re)place.
Just the thread in which it is presented is a bit suspicious.
The reason why anyone would want to remove a node and replace one at the same
(or approximate) location escapes my logic.
It disturbs history,
executive resume
One of the reasons OSM could distinguish from other maps,
is being able to respond quickly to temporarily events.
/executive resume
Currently OSM is boaring the same as Google, having the same data,
but less, and less accurate on a majority of places and
sometimes more on some
I believe that mediation in this particular problem is impossible.
Ranking based on population numbers will never be recognized by
both parties, as religious inspired politics will never respect a status
quo nor a history.
Once the Jerusalem problem is solved the dispute will continue
on other
such situations would be far more the
point
than supporting make-believe worlds.
Simon
Am 08.10.2011 12:38, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
I believe that mediation in this particular problem is impossible.
Ranking based on population numbers will never be recognized
I am a user of your product, and I think you made a nice
product. I also think that now your product is mature (25+),
it's time for you to supply your own tiles to your users.
Not only would that allow a better service to us, but also
makes it possible for us to download all zoom levels
and to
What a childish approach of both sides...
This is something the community should be ashamed of !
Gert Gremmen
-
Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
P Before printing, think about the environment.
Van: dimka israeli
, we would have 100% of
everything anyway in roughly two years if we simply just let things carry on as
they are now (which is not the intention).
Simon
Am 24.09.2011 16:29, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
irony ON
It seems as if the community is not that motivated
to re
-
Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
P Before printing, think about the environment.
Van: Ian Sergeant [mailto:iserg...@hih.com.au]
Verzonden: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:07 AM
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC: Talk
You lost me here, definitely ... ;((
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Van: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2011 20:55
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Barriers of Entry
I'm glad that you both agree so closely.
Paraphrasing
+1 Serge
I do not think that the experts (read : experienced) OSM such
as Frederik, SteveC and many others including myself have the skills to
actually fine tune
OSM to new users. We know too much details, are too involved
and probably too worried about misuse, data soup (yes me too)
and too
/ conditionally approve
edits made by stupidity / mouse errors / vandalism / ignorance.
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jaakko Helleranta.com [mailto:jaa...@helleranta.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2011 4:34
Aan: Ian Sergeant; ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC: Talk
Yes you can as OSM is explicitly mentioned in the EULA for OSM.
Of course you must think about what SPOT service the EULA stands for.
However, you may not use the OSM editor Potlatch, as integrated
on the OSM website.
Listed are JOSM / Viking and Merkaartor only.
I do not know why, but it is
I think this user ranking principle / ranking discussion is very
unhealthy.
OSM is not a game with points for every node we shoot !
Common, become an adult and map to give to the world
and have a good time yourself. And if you go outside
with your GPS you have a free workout too.
Gert
Hi Angelika,
Please note that OSM is currently distributed under the CC-BY-SA
license. There are plans to create a ODBL version of this database as a
derived work, but the required modifications to the database have not
yet started and the community has not yet agreed on a date for this to
Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ?
Of iemand die iets vergelijkbaars kan maken (in opdracht ?
Gert Gremmen
-
Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
P Before printing, think about the environment.
Goudappel Coffeng BV is gevestigd in Deventer, Den Haag, Eindhoven,
Leeuwarden en Amsterdam
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From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl
To: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list talk-nl@openstreetmap.org
Date: 30-08-2011 12:16
Subject
Even if that might be legally correct it’s not morally correct, as we actually
CAN
trace that to persons. Hiding behind a formal legal description will
save you from persecution only. Nevertheless naming Skobbler is doing harm to
people.
No-one should have mentioned the name Skobbler in the
.
ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl
mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
Signing (clicking) the CT explicitly transfers the
liability of the suitability to the contributor,
where declaring PD does not.
The Board wants us to sign a contract with them.
It's not about
. Please excuse my brevity.
ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl
mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
Signing (clicking) the CT explicitly transfers the
liability of the suitability to the contributor,
where declaring PD does not.
The Board wants us to sign a contract
access back
Op 10-08-11 12:33, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen schreef:
To all
It's all a matter of trust.
A) Trusting contributors and
b) trusting the users of OSM data.
The current policy of OSM is to trust nobody,
and therefore OSM(F) is seeking legal certainty,
by creating
...@poole.ch]
Verzonden: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:57 AM
Aan: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] I want my access back
Am 11.08.2011 09:38, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
...
It's the necessity of a license that has never been discussed about
...@poole.ch]
Verzonden: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:42 PM
Aan: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] I want my access back
Am 11.08.2011 12:00, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen:
Thanks Simon for your constructive reply.
(contrary to those that call any
, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen schrieb:
So by citing my e-mail without a license, you
made an infraction to my copyright,as you are actually
republishing copyrighted work
No, only if it wasn't properly cited, as (AFAIK) most IP laws require
you to point out who is the author unless
It's OSM that obliges users to contribute CC-BY-SA
and it's OSM that obliges users to contribute ODBL.
But many of us want to contribute PD and do not want
to comply with any CT at all. PD data does not need a
complicated and binding CT as the current one.
And the current situation is not
To all
It's all a matter of trust.
A) Trusting contributors and
b) trusting the users of OSM data.
The current policy of OSM is to trust nobody,
and therefore OSM(F) is seeking legal certainty,
by creating licenses and contributor terms.
It will probably take a long time for those
seeking
What is worrying me is that the LWG (=OSMF=COMMUNITY)
requires any contributor (us) to sign up using a CT,
where BING can get away with a simple blog page.
I *can* understand that, because it's not OSM that is addressed
in this blog, but the individuals (us) making contributions.
The permission
Is het niet simpeler die paar paadjes even recht te maken ?
Kwartiertje werk voor iemand in JOSM
Gert
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Van: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl]
Verzonden: maandag 11 juli 2011 18:52
Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Paden
So there won't be a problem if on day X the version of John Smith will
be removed from the database and on day X+2 I would enter one of the
versions I've shown, right?
Right, under the assumption both cannot be copyrighted,
not even under OdBL, being *fact*.
If they *are* copyrighted, no you
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 02:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Maarten Deen wrote:
Turn restrictions, maximum speeds, oneway streets, even the value
of the highway tag is not a geographical fact.
Sure they are.
If I walk about 20 yards from my front door, there's a no entry
sign at a
+1
Frederik has not shown much respect for any argument
nor to anyone that disagrees with the future commercialisation
of OSM. (with that I means making OSM optimally fit for commercial use;
disregarding the open principles that OSM started with:
leaving out the Share Alike principle)
+1
Gert
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Van: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 7 juli 2011 19:55
Aan: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes
On 7 July 2011 21:49, Andreas Perstinger
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Van: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:17 PM
Aan: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes
On 6 July 2011 02:49, ce-test, qualified testing
You need to consider and to apply due diligence.
A deleted road/way/node is deleted, and by fiddling
around with its properties, nodes or ways, you won't
change its legal status.
If you need to preserve a name of street (as an example)
that you observed yourself withing the license CT conditions
What's wrong with asking everyone AGAIN ?
If something is wrong, then it cannot be difficult to correct.
If a youg organization as OSM is not flexible, who the hell on earth IS ?
Or even better, let the community choose what CT/LICENSE is best.
Email is free, and a voting webtool is available
Ik denk dat je beter af bent met josm dan potlatch...
voor het editen van relaties
Gert
Van: TheoV [mailto:urbanci...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 29 juni 2011 17:56
Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wandelroute
Ok, ik heb het teruggezet naar
fun?
Maybe each node had its own license ?
/fun?
gert
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Van: Nathan Edgars II [mailto:nerou...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: zaterdag 25 juni 2011 20:18
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset
Shaun McDonald
I do not have the (dutch) law at hand, do you?, but I believed this
was for tracking cookies and third party cookies only.
I suppose that the full implementation of this
directive/law requires browser interaction and ultimately
intervention by MS/Google/Mozilla and others.
Firefox has a number
But I do feel slightly uncomfortable that my edits, which I've now agreed
should be licensed under ODbL, can currently be used by fosm to build a
CC-by-SA competitor project which aims to divide our community.
The community has always been clear that the continuation of OSM
with with a new
, not the continuing half. End the fork took the assets boooh
Gert
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:42 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
The rotten thing here is that the ODBL fork has hijacked the domain
name and
servers, because of mainly because a majority let
You do realize that there are thousands of people reading this list, from
all around the world? Please contact LWG in private or at least move to
legal-talk@, where all trolls go. Thank you.
Legal-talk = troll ?? : this guy/gall *is* funny !!
Gert Gremmen
I discovered that openstreetmap.org stores
(flash) cookies on our computers.
Since recently was decided that in NL
cookies are subject to explicit permission of
the users, I'd think that Openstreetmap provides
information on what information and settings are
actually used by OSM.
trolling ON
Stop harassing the poor guys of the LWG.
They are just volonteers carrying out orders of the OSMF.
And after all: 99.99 % of our community
was not addressed.
And those who were addressed ...i tiny minority... who cares...
they won't bother us no more
trolling off
Gert
19 juni 2011 6:59
Aan: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com
regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap
On 19 June 2011 03:40, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote
Not sure of you point, since cc-by-sa can't be magically turned into
ODBL data, it can only stay cc-by-sa.
If you are legally sure and prove that they were cc-by-sa in the first
place. ;))
This copyright stuff for soft - ware (not software) is a can of worms
that will
kill the project in the
If I declare that all my contributions from 19-06-2011 on will
be published as PD, will that prevent the community from
blocking my account ?
Gert Gremmen
-
Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
P Before printing, think about the
: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] ODbL fase 4 aanstaande zondag
2011/6/18 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
De domste paragraaf is nog wel:
We would like to avoid someone like Google loading the whole of OSM into
their Map Maker system
The CT/License Vote was IMHO not meant to be a serious democratic
process. Instead a majority was searched for a OSMF decision:
cynism on
like non anonymous voting for a single party in some countries
where your lose your job if voting against -fill in your favorite dictator-
cynism off
As long as
nee-stemmers, dus
ik
ben
benieuwd naar de jouwe.
Ik hoop dat we nog kunnen voorkomen dat we jou en jouw werk kwijtraken.
Groet,
Floris
2011/6/16 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl:
nee, ik kan niet akkoord gaan met de CT/ODBL.
Als dit het afscheid van
testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl
Ik vindt een nieuwe licentie onnodig omdat
-we deze maar ook een andere licentie niet kunnen handhaven
Verklaar. Dit snap ik niet. Zeer waarschijnlijk ligt jouw bezwaar ook bij de
huidige CC-BY-SA licentie
-er nooit problemen zijn
This whole licensing process went way above the competence of
the LWG, both in legal, management as in technical sense.
As usual, these things will be worked out when the circumstances
demand it. Just like in the old-fashioned do-ocratic way.
Gert Gremmen
No, it would be simpler for OSM.
Regards,
Gert
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Van: Dermot McNally [mailto:derm...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:59 PM
Aan: Floris Looijesteijn
CC: OpenStreetMap Talk
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Users who disagree to ODbL but want PD / CC0
In general i know Henk as a reasonable man,
and I know he is in politics in the Netherlands
so she should knew better then referencing to this
would-be-dictator Pierens Doodle Poll.
Read it and you will understand why is some democratic countries
revolutions
started. This Is what I call
Good arguments and reasoning Dermot, (no irony)
Now see how these match with the history of the CT approval process, and
you might even change opinion!
And to Russ, calling others a troll will transform you into one once!
This discussion is of high quality, high level argument based and both
To all active members of OSM !
I found that only 250 or so OSM contributors out of 250.000
are actually members of OSMF.
That is about 0.1 %.
Nevertheless it's that 0.1 % that actually decides what will
happen with OSM in the close future.
The current OSMF members are all very
The problems with the CC-BY-SA license are fully hypothetical,
as there have been no real life problems.
There have been some hesitations at commercial users of OSM data
with the Share Alike part, but OSM is not bound to enforce the SA part
of the current license either, so we could just allow
Ho,
Eigenlijk is het ook een stad.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Wateringen,+
Netherlandsaq=0sll=71.187754,97.646484sspn=19.766308,85.605469ie=UTF
8hq=hnear=Wateringen,+Westland,+South+Holland,+Netherlandst=hll=52.0
Aan alle knooppuntenfietsers in Voorne Putten
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Nederlandse_Fietsroutes#Z
uid-Holland
Op deze wikipagina heb ik aangegeven wat er per vandaag nog te routen
is.
Doe ons allen een plezier en zet je naam achter een stukje als dat hebt
gedaan,
Am i missing something ?
Dermot is answering messages that are not on this list.
Gert Gremmen
-
Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
Before printing, think about the environment.
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Van: Dermot McNally
Wat in de hele OSM strategy ontbreekt is een update strategie.
Deze BAG data heeft inderdaad de potentie om de hele community
te overspoelen met update werk . Aan de andere kant wordt de BAG data
ook bijgewerkt door de overheid. Als we een geautomatiseerd systeem hadden om
updates
in OSM te
De locatie in Rotterdam waar mijn bedrijfspand staat
aan de Kiotoweg heet al sinds het pand is gebouwd Kiotoweg.
Oh ja, ik ben eigenaar van het pand en de straat heet echt Kiotoweg in het
kadaster.
Dus niet: de Kiotoweg heet gewoon nog Montevideostraat in BAG
Verder staan er nog 2 straten in
/1 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
Wat in de hele OSM strategy ontbreekt is een update strategie.
Deze BAG data heeft inderdaad de potentie om de hele community
te overspoelen met update werk . Aan de andere kant wordt de BAG data
ook bijgewerkt door de overheid
. (Ik gok het NWB, Daarvan is de kwaliteit inderdaad lager dan die
van OSM.) Als je de moeite neemt om op de gebouwen te klikken, dan zul je
zien dat de gebouwen gewoon aan de Kiotoweg staan volgens de BAG.
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 15:14:14 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen wrote
Die driehoeken bij mij in de buurt ( 300 meter) zijn echte bugs, en geen
nieuwe gebouwen.
Misschien verbouwingen ??
Gert Gremmen
-
Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
Before printing, think about the environment.
-Oorspronkelijk
How do we match 121,000 with 17,800 ???
Steve wrote :
Over 121,000 contributors have already accepted the new terms and we hope you
will too.
The Minutes state:
Of voluntary acceptances, we have 17,280 with still about 200 a day coming in.
There are 284 declines and the rate has slowed
Leg eens uit wat het voordeel is van een polygoon /multipolygoon
voor slootjes ?
Is het dat de grens van weiland/sloot in een way gemaakt kan worden ?
Hoe doe je dat dan als er niet overal een slootje ligt ?
Gert Gremmen
-
Openstreetmap.nl
Tot nu toe tag ik opritjes naar huizen, maar ook
de grote (manoeuvreer) vlakken die voor een bedrijf aan de weg aansluiten
als een stukje unclassified, maar dat is lang niet altijd bevredigend.
Gaan we voor opritten naar service ? Iedereen akkoord ?
Hoe doen we dan het pleintje voor de
Bij het recentelijk fietsen in voorne putten heb ik gebruik gemaakt
van een eenvoudige solid date videorecorder
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-5-Car-Vehicle-Camera-Mini-DVR-Recorder-HD-720P-IR-
Cam-/110688593621?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item19c58de6d5
Met een beeldhoek van 120 graden neemt die
Hallo Jeroen Muris, maar ook anderen.
Even een berichtje over Voorne Putten.
Ik zag dat jij daar laatstelijk (15mei) nog mee aan het werk bent
geweest.
Ik ben daar tevens gestart met het vastleggen van knoopuntennetwerk per
afgelopen weekend ten zuiden van zwartewaal.
Misschien is het nuttig te
Van: Floris Looijesteijn [mailto:o...@floris.nu]
Verzonden: Monday, May 16, 2011 9:26 PM
Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Uiterlijk van de kaart
toch zijn er genoeg bedrijfjes gestart die met onze data nu diensten
leveren.
alleen op die manier kunnen ze
Wat een onzin; zonder een voorbeeld representatie (de kaart)
zou er niemand naar OSM hebben omgekeken.
Data onderscheidt zich alleen maar van ruis
doordat het zich gestructureerd laat weergeven.
Als je dus wilt laten zien dat OSM iets meer is dan ruis
dan heb je iemand als robert nodig om te
...@rtijn.org]
Verzonden: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:29 PM
Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Uiterlijk van de kaart
2011/5/17 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
Van: Floris Looijesteijn [mailto:o...@floris.nu]
Verzonden: Monday, May 16
+1
Regards,
Gert Gremmen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Elizabeth Dodd [mailto:ed...@billiau.net]
Verzonden: Sunday, May 01, 2011 4:51 AM
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
Mikel Maron
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Rights granted to OSMF (Section 2 of the
CT)
On 18/04/11 22:41, Simon Ward wrote:
The only restriction I have seen is that some software developers
perceive reciprocal licences as a hindrance because the reciprocal
licenses prevent them from removing
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