On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:49:48PM -0400, Anthony wrote:
Maybe the idea started out well. Using CC-BY-SA isn't consistent
across different jurisdictions, so we want a ShareAlike license which
Make that a You or I
I dont want/need share-alike -
Thanks to everyone who offered me spare accounts.
I now have more than I need. If anyone else needs one please ask.
80n
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:34 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone have a spare / unused OSM account that was created before the
new Contributor Terms were
Thanks to everyone who offered me their spare accounts.
I now have more than I need. If anyone wants one just ask.
80n
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:34 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone have a spare / unused OSM account that was created before the
new Contributor Terms were
Does anyone have a spare / unused OSM account that was created before the
new Contributor Terms were introduced?
I'm planning an import of some micro-mapping that's been done for my local
area. The import guidelines[1] recommend that I create a new account for
this to keep it separate from my
80n,
80n wrote:
For obvious reasons I'm not going to use an account that forces me to
commit to the new contributor terms. So now I'm looking for anyone who
might have an old OSM account (created before May 12th 2010) that they
are not using and would be happy to give away to me.
Maybe
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Maybe instead of playing these kinds of games you could just help those
people who want to set up a fork, and then import to that fork. Because for
us, your plannet import along with your steadfast refusal of the new license,
only causes more work and
On 10 August 2010 18:36, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Maybe instead of playing these kinds of games you could just help those
people who want to set up a fork, and then import to that fork. Because for
us, your plannet import along with your steadfast refusal of the new
license,
Now that we have identifiable changesets, the advice to create a separate user
account is no longer as essential as it once was. I would suggest using your
existing user account and doing the upload as one or more clearly marked
changesets.
--
Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com
Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org writes:
Because for us, your plannet import along with your steadfast refusal of the
new
license, only causes more work and more problems.
That is true. But then for those who would prefer to continue with CC-BY-SA,
the pushing of the new contributor terms
Am 10.08.2010 13:38, schrieb Ed Avis:
Frederik Rammfrederikat remote.org writes:
Because for us, your plannet import along with your steadfast refusal of the new
license, only causes more work and more problems.
That is true. But then for those who would prefer to continue with CC-BY-SA,
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
[...] CC-BY-SA can't be used for databases.
That's certainly trivially incorrect.
The database that holds Wikipedia is a database, for instance.
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Peter K?rner wrote:
Didn't you read? There is no way in continuing with CC-BY-SA as CC-BY-SA
can't be used for databases. It is just not possible, damn!
Anyone tested this is any court? Which CC-BY-SA project was 'killed'
because of this?
Let the guys from the LWG do
On 10 August 2010 23:32, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote:
Why is this again a statement of making OSM more restrictive, while the hole
transition was invented to be less restrictive on the OSM data ;) Paradox?
The transition is from more free for contributors to less free for
On 8/10/10, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de
wrote:
[...] CC-BY-SA can't be used for databases.
That's certainly trivially incorrect.
The database that holds Wikipedia is a database, for instance.
And it's not under
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 03:13:02PM +0200, Peter Körner wrote:
Am 10.08.2010 13:38, schrieb Ed Avis:
Frederik Rammfrederikat remote.org writes:
Because for us, your plannet import along with your steadfast refusal of
the new
license, only causes more work and more problems.
That is true.
On 10 August 2010 23:44, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote:
In case i dont care and like PD more than CC-BY-SA or even worse the ODbl i
would
be more than happy to continue with CC-BY-SA and accept it to fail in court,
basically putting the OSM Data into PD ...
I never really got that, pro-PD
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:49 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 August 2010 23:44, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote:
In case i dont care and like PD more than CC-BY-SA or even worse the ODbl i
would
be more than happy to continue with CC-BY-SA and accept it to fail in court,
On 10 August 2010 14:49, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 August 2010 23:44, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote:
In case i dont care and like PD more than CC-BY-SA or even worse the ODbl
i would
be more than happy to continue with CC-BY-SA and accept it to fail in
court,
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:49:18PM +1000, John Smith wrote:
On 10 August 2010 23:44, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote:
In case i dont care and like PD more than CC-BY-SA or even worse the ODbl i
would
be more than happy to continue with CC-BY-SA and accept it to fail in court,
basically
On 10 August 2010 23:54, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:
... and aren't immoral arseholes who like to trample over other's
intent and damn well know the project is highly unlikely to ever end
up PD so would rather be on a level playing field by having a license
that works for
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
I never really got that, pro-PD people are pro-ODBL because copyright
may not be enough to cover the database...
Not sure what that means. I'd prefer OSM to stay CC-BY-SA. Barring
that, I'd prefer CC0 (or PDDL, or
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Elena of Valhalla
elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/10/10, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de
wrote:
[...] CC-BY-SA can't be used for databases.
That's certainly trivially incorrect.
The
2010/8/10 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Elena of Valhalla
elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/10/10, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de
wrote:
[...] CC-BY-SA can't be used for databases.
That's
Peteris,
I agree with you. I do not see anything wrong with ODbL this far. But
The third condition of the Contributor Terms is unacceptable to me.
Mappers from Germany or Southern England are probably one next to the
other at this point of OSMs history, so bulk imports sound like
absolutely
Am 10.08.2010 17:55, schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:
For summary, there are:
I'm sorry if I mixed those two groups. I'm not in 1) but I can totally
understand the problems this group of people have.
Peter, too.
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Am 10.08.2010 16:02, schrieb John Smith:
If it won't end up PD why the limitation in the CTs?
To keep the door open for the futuer. Nobody knows what will come. Are
your problems that you don't trust the LWG? Then go on and do a fork --
it's that easy.
Peter
On 11 August 2010 03:50, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
To keep the door open for the futuer. Nobody knows what will come. Are your
problems that you don't trust the LWG? Then go on and do a fork -- it's that
easy.
It has nothing to do with trust, it has to do with the fact that
2010/8/10 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
Am 10.08.2010 16:02, schrieb John Smith:
If it won't end up PD why the limitation in the CTs?
To keep the door open for the futuer. Nobody knows what will come. Are your
problems that you don't trust the LWG? Then go on and do a fork -- it's
Am 10.08.2010 19:52, schrieb John Smith:
On 11 August 2010 03:50, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
To keep the door open for the futuer. Nobody knows what will come. Are your
problems that you don't trust the LWG? Then go on and do a fork -- it's that
easy.
It has nothing to do
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