Re: [talk-au] Foss4G-SotM Oceania OSM Workshops

2018-08-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
The community voting for the FOSS4G SotM Oceania workshops has opened, if you're planning on attending please vote for the workshops you're interested in, as only 10 workshops will be selected for the program.

Re: [talk-au] Shared Zones

2018-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Okay, I've added it to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dliving_street#National_specialities ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Shared Zones

2018-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> I don't see any reason to update the Australian tagging guidelines. There are no Australia specific arguments being made, or even Australian contributors to the discussion (apart from you). > If that's the way that OSM moves, then let the general wiki get updated accordingly. Don't see any need

[talk-au] Shared Zones

2018-07-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
There's a discussion on the tagging list[1] about how to map shared zones[2] in Australia. The consensus is to use highway=living_street[3]. Please voice any comments you have on the tagging discussion, otherwise I'll update the wiki for highway=living_street and the Australian Tagging Guidelines.

Re: [talk-au] Australian Marine Parks Import

2018-07-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm okay with updating as you see fit. On 6 July 2018 at 16:48, Lee Mason wrote: > source:geography=CAPAD 2016 > > source:name=Commonwealth Marine Reserves Review > Could you use `source:geometry` it's used over 1M times already, `source:geography` has practically no usage.

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap API has been retired - any options?

2018-07-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
The vicmap API isn't under an open license so it was never supposed to be used to derive data from for OSM. The vicmap data which you download, is allowed to be used, as it is CC BY 4.0 with the OSM waiver. I agree that having a background map we can load into editors makes it easier to add

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
For places like `St Peters` and `St Leonards` the `St` abbreviation has become widely accepted by the community to the point that it's almost no longer an abbreviation. So I'd say it should be `St Peters` and not use `Saint Peters` even as an alt_name.

[talk-au] FOSS4G SotM Oceania

2018-06-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Early bird tickets are now on sale for our regional State of the Map conference in Melbourne in November. https://foss4g-oceania.org/ Conference: Early Bird $300 Conference: Community Contributor $150 (if you've made a significant OSM contribution you qualify for this) Community Day: FREE Call

Re: [talk-au] Mapping houses and addresses in Sydney

2018-06-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 18 June 2018 at 19:21, Dion Moult wrote: > Thanks Andrew for your reply! > > 1. Thanks for the link to the import guidelines. My responses to the > import guidelines below: > First up I think any changesets that import addresses in this way should have an extra changeset tag so if we need to

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to www.openstreetmap.org markup - where to requsest?

2018-06-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [talk-au] Increased precision options for Australia - QZSS, SBAS or Galileo

2018-06-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
If you use RTK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_kinematic you should get centimeter accuracy, but expect to pay $10k+. https://www.swiftnav.com seems like a cheaper option but not sure if it works in Australia and it not a consumer device, seems they just sell the boards. ...once you

Re: [talk-au] Mapping houses and addresses in Sydney

2018-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks for the links Andy. Marc is correct, I meant we can only use the Imagery layer, not any of ESRI's other basemaps like their Streets basemap, etc. On 5 June 2018 at 02:23, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 03/06/18 20:12, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > On 3 June 2018 at 21:48, Dion Mou

Re: [talk-au] Postcodes in South Australia

2018-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Good point Andrew. Here's the link in case others were interested https://data.sa.gov.au/data/dataset/suburb-boundaries. It's CC BY 4.0 licensed and we do have the waiver completed so are free to use (just need to ensure we add the attribution to the wiki). While it's a good approximation, it's

Re: [talk-au] Mapping houses and addresses in Sydney

2018-06-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 3 June 2018 at 21:48, Dion Moult wrote: > > I've started using OSM more and more and I find it frustrating that many > house addresses are not available in OSM. I would like to help by tracing > many houses using ESRI as a base map (feel free to audit my history on OSM > under the name

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-06-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks Andy for the update and everyone else for monitoring this. > * and separating the spammers from the poor single-business owners trying to add their legit businesses to OSM, of course. Any legitimate single-business owners would probably not follow the exact same recipe book the spammers

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Street names source?

2018-05-28 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 30 April 2018 at 10:11, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On 30 April 2018 at 07:38, John Berkers wrote: > >> JOSM has an imagery layer for VicMap which shows street names from >> LASSI. LASSI is more generally available here: >> > > Is that standard or something you've

Re: [talk-au] Queensland Govt Spatial Catalogue

2018-05-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> > On 24 May 2018, at 9:35 pm, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Surfacing an old thread here as there have been recent developments. > > The "Protected areas of Queensland - boundaries" dataset from QSpatial[1] > has been previously import

Re: [talk-au] Queensland Govt Spatial Catalogue

2018-05-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Surfacing an old thread here as there have been recent developments. The "Protected areas of Queensland - boundaries" dataset from QSpatial[1] has been previously imported by QldProtectedAreas[2]. It's CC BY 3.0 AU licensed, but the data custodian (Department of Environment and Science) has

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks for doing the research on this! On 21 May 2018 at 19:32, Andrew Davidson wrote: > After wasting many hours on this I've come to the conclusion that a > zero-tolerance policy is the only real option we have. So I've now started > to just revert them without bothering

Re: [talk-au] Correcting inland water features

2018-05-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Agreed with Warin and Ewen. I'd like to point out the AGRI imagery [1], yes it's old (2006-2011), black and white, and missing parts of the imagery due to cloud and seams, but it may help as an extra source to compare. It's good enough to make out rivers and it should be accurate positionally

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 10 May 2018 at 10:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > In reverting, OSM looses the information that these new people made. > OSM also looses a potential new mapper, as I doubt they will return > following their attempted addition being removed. > > There are large additions in some

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
This is a global problem, happening in other regions too, just unfortunate we're caught up in this as it's a real waste of time dealing with it. In a couple of recent ones they were trying to pan in iD but dragged features instead by accident, breaking other features. I've reverted these

Re: [talk-au] Morton Bay National Park should have it's ID numbers under ref=

2018-05-02 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I agree. On Thu., 3 May 2018, 2:02 pm Joel H., wrote: > Hello, I'm just noticing around Moreton Bay Marine Park. Many > nature_reserves are currently formatted as follows: > > name= Honeymoon Bay (MNP05) > > Shouldn't this be: > > name= Honeymoon Bay > > ref= MNP05 > > ? >

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Street names source?

2018-04-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 30 April 2018 at 12:26, Arthur Geeson wrote: > Are we able to use the house numbers in LASSI? > We have the required waiver to use the Vicmap Addresses data. The letter of the agreement only covers the data, not any web services. I presume the house numbers you see on

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Street names source?

2018-04-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 30 April 2018 at 07:38, John Berkers wrote: > JOSM has an imagery layer for VicMap which shows street names from LASSI. > LASSI is more generally available here: > Is that standard or something you've added for your installation? I couldn't find it in the JOSM sources.

Re: [talk-au] Investigating a NSW Schools Import

2018-04-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
/user/aharvey_imports On 28 April 2018 at 11:20, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've received some feedback from the imports list and made some changes to > the plan. > > 1. The ref tags won't be imported as they can in some instances discourage > l

Re: [talk-au] Victorian suburbs/localities relations possible bulk upload

2018-04-28 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 28 April 2018 at 21:08, cleary wrote: > ... PSMA has been licensed to use the data under a CC licence... > Are you sure? Honest question, because I don't know. I suspect this data is provided by the states to PSMA under a liberal license (less restrictive than CC BY) meaning

Re: [talk-au] Victorian suburbs/localities relations possible bulk upload

2018-04-28 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi Ewen, Nothing wrong with asking questions, hope my response doesn't come off too harshly! My thoughts below... On 28 April 2018 at 19:30, Ewen Hill wrote: > I downloaded https://data.gov.au/dataset/vic-suburb- > locality-boundaries-psma-administrative-boundaries and

Re: [talk-au] Am I doing intersections right?

2018-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination says: In the road system, the key destination=* describes the content of > signposts or ground writing indicating the names of the locations that the > tagged way is heading to. Thus navigation systems can refer to road signs > that the driver

Re: [talk-au] Investigating a NSW Schools Import

2018-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
he school. I'll give it a few more days for feedback, if I don't get anything back I'll start the import as planned. On 23 April 2018 at 21:19, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm investigating the possibility of importing NSW Public Schools data > <https://data.ce

Re: [talk-au] NSW Protected Areas Data Imports

2018-04-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
ts ins > OSM. > > On 26 April 2018 at 15:20, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've noticed in NSW, protected areas have been very heavily imported. >> >> Given we now have the CC BY 4.0 waiver for NPWS's open data it might be >> worth taking a

[talk-au] NSW Protected Areas Data Imports

2018-04-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've noticed in NSW, protected areas have been very heavily imported. Given we now have the CC BY 4.0 waiver for NPWS's open data it might be worth taking a look at their Estate data as it appears to be the most frequently updated at every 3 months (last updated 31st March 2018), compared to

Re: [talk-au] Am I doing intersections right?

2018-04-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 24 April 2018 at 14:28, Alex Sims wrote: > You might be mapping for the renderer. :) > > I have been not giving slip roads a name and making sure they are > highway=secondary_link, trunk_link etc, which is considered valid by Keep > Right, Geofabrik etc. It also makes sense

[talk-au] Investigating a NSW Schools Import

2018-04-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm investigating the possibility of importing NSW Public Schools data into OpenStreetMap in line with the Import Guidelines . At this stage I'm seeking buy in from

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 18 April 2018 at 06:30, Jmapb wrote: > (My personal feeling is that that it's better to avoid mapping sidewalks > as separate ways unless there's a compelling reason that would outweigh the > additional data clutter and routing complications. In some circumstances -- > those

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 17 April 2018 at 23:31, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2018, Simon Poole wrote: > > > > > * When you add new 'terms of use' or 'data processing agreement' > > > provisions that people who want to access OSM data with metadata > > > need to agree to does that

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thank you those in the LWG that have put this paper together. My thoughts are OSM's ODBL license grants me the right to publish a version of http://hdyc.neis-one.org/ open to the public, not restricted to OSM users. Reading this, I understand the OSMF is proposing to introduce Terms of Use which

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 130, Issue 4

2018-04-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi Keith, On 11 April 2018 at 20:53, K C wrote: > It seems to me that there are external links to a variety of websites in > some of the WA OSM data. I draw your attention to the Department of Parks > and Wildlife. That website too is copyright like every website in AU. I

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 130, Issue 4

2018-04-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. tagged links to photos (nwastra) >>2. tagged

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 130, Issue 7

2018-04-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
It's best try to encode this using machine readable tags as much as possible assuming the information is factual and verifiable. For anything you can't there exists the description tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:description "The description=* tag can be used to provide additional

Re: [talk-au] tagged links to photos

2018-04-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
For example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5536892235 The wiki summarises the image key pretty well https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:image The image may be copyrighted, but a including a link should be fine, just as the website key links to copyrighted websites. We're not using that

Re: [talk-au] QldGlobe

2018-04-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
That's right, the data layers in the Queensland Globe mostly come from QSpatial run by DNRME. We haven't yet been able to get the OSMF CC BY waiver completed yet, see https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/ talk-au/2018-March/011694.html so they can't be used in OSM yet. Could you post the

Re: [talk-au] Surveillance camera?

2018-03-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
agreed, man_made=surveillance needn't be for security, traffic cams, surf cams are all covered. The wiki suggests https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surveillance:zone rather than surveillance:monitoring. So surveillance:zone=traffic for a traffic camera and surveillance:zone=surf for a surf

Re: [talk-au] Tathra Fires

2018-03-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
In follow up emails to LPI they responded in red to these questions: - OpenStreetMap (OSM) may use and incorporate NSW data and derived products > into its database if attribution is provided as previously specified in > this email chain. Agree > > - You understand that the OSM database into

Re: [talk-au] New data sources available for Western Australian roads

2018-03-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Main Roads WA just completed the OSMF CC BY waiver https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM_CCBY_Consent-MainRoadsWA.pdf so we finally have all the legal issues checked off. Good to see some code at https://github.com/geogeeks-au/MainRoads-to-OSM, keep up the good work! On 16 December 2016 at

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Base Map land parcel numbers

2018-03-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Yes, but keep in mind that LPI's view from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/New_South_Wales_Government_Data is "Unless a downstream users of OpenStreetMap can clearly identify LPI data within their own derivative work it would not be reasonable for them to attribute LPI." That's a

Re: [talk-au] Collaborative Australian Protected Areas Database (CAPAD) 2016

2018-03-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've already changed at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Department_of_the_Environment_and_Energy Is anyone currently working on comparing the CAPAD 2016 data with what's in OSM? On 30 August 2017 at 09:55, Andrew Harvey <and...@alantgeo.com.au> wrote: > Just want

Re: [talk-au] I have written a response to DNRM, please give feedback

2018-03-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Oh I was referring to the Brisbane City Council data you mentioned not DNRM. On 15 Mar. 2018 12:26 am, "Jonathon Rossi" wrote: I'll reach out to them to see if we can get the waiver completed tomorrow, > in the meantime I've added it too the list. > This isn't intended to

Re: [talk-au] I have written a response to DNRM, please give feedback

2018-03-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> I like the idea of getting a fresh agreement about attribution to continue using the CC BY 2.5/3.0 licensed data, even if we cannot use the CC BY 4.0 data today. I don't think it would be hard to get the rights holder's okay that they are happy with our attribution of their data. Agreed, that's

Re: [talk-au] I have written a response to DNRM, please give feedback

2018-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hey Joel, Jonathon, great to see your efforts to try to get this through. As an aside I'm working on cataloguing Australian open data potentially useful for OSM with the goal to get the OSMF waiver completed for them all. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue In cases

Re: [talk-au] How would I go about tagging South Bank in Brisbane?

2018-02-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Agreed, place=neighbourhood seems most appropriate. On 28 Feb. 2018 5:33 pm, "Vũ Phạm Minh Tuấn" wrote: > Hi Joel, > > I think tagging *place=*neighbourhood would work. place=neighbourhood is > used for localities part of a suburb, but not recognised as a suburb. > >

Re: [talk-au] Potential data import

2018-02-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 20 Feb. 2018 1:41 pm, "Daniel O'Connor" wrote: A good example of a transport agency already doing this is Adelaide Metro; who both publish data as GTFS and provide tools based on openstreetmap; their internal data. I'm interested to know more about this, are there

Re: [talk-au] Potential data import

2018-02-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm going to send off a request to see. On 20 Feb. 2018 1:41 pm, "Daniel O'Connor" wrote: >From here, you might be interested in emailing the maintainer and asking if they will specifically license that dataset as ODBL ( https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/), an

Re: [talk-au] How to map CBD boundaries?

2018-02-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
probably like Sydney which is both a City https://www.openstreetmap.org/ relation/5750005 and a Suburb https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5729534and an LGA https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1251066 I'm not familiar with the area so can't comment. On 5 February 2018 at 14:15, Joel H.

Re: [talk-au] Mens Shed

2018-01-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Great, I've added https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:community_centre:for = men On 28 January 2018 at 10:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > I have added a men's shed ... > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5359849540 > > tagged as an amenity=community_centrewith a website

Re: [talk-au] correct mapping of overtaking lanes

2018-01-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Have you seen https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:overtaking? PS this is for overtaking by entering the lane used by traffic going in the opposite direction, not for when a 1 lane opens up to 2 lanes to allow overtaking. On 24 January 2018 at 18:11, wrote: > Can

Re: [talk-au] Help with licensing

2018-01-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
X to agree. On Fri, 19 Jan 2018, at 4:19 PM, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > I also want to make use of the QLD DCDB and was going to start a new > thread on the mailing list about it today to work out how to get out > of this stalemate after Andrew Davidson informed me last week.> > It

[talk-au] Vicmap Datasets in OpenStreetMap

2018-01-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've secured the OSMF CC BY 4.0 waiver from DELWP for use of their Vicmap Datasets in OpenStreetMap. Some of these datasets were already listed at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Victorian_Government_data, but now I've updated that section with the waiver details so it's clear

[talk-au] Addressing data

2017-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 28 December 2017 at 12:30, Nick Hocking wrote: > The missing OSM information in Australia that would be, by a large margin, > the most usefull, would be address data (and building footprint, if > available). > If we had address data then OSM maps would be usefull for

Re: [talk-au] Rendering of BBQs

2017-12-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I guess just because no one has implemented it yeh, feel free to open an issue or submit a pull request implementing it to the style at https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/ On 26 Dec. 2017 10:37 am, "Arthur Geeson" wrote: > Is there a reason that BBQs are not

[talk-au] Australian SOTM 2018 / Local OSMF Chapter

2017-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi all, This was mentioned in passing at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2017-November/011537.html but I feel it warrants its own thread. 1. A FOSS4G (Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial) and SOTM (OpenStreetMap State of the Map) is being organised Melbourne in 21-24

Re: [talk-au] Tagging dog off-lead areas

2017-12-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
gmail.com> wrote: > On 13-Dec-17 10:08 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > On 13 December 2017 at 09:31, Philip Mallis <phi...@philipmallis.com> > wrote: > >> I have been considering how to tag parks that allow dogs to be off-lead. >> I’ve had a look through the

Re: [talk-au] Tagging dog off-lead areas

2017-12-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 13 December 2017 at 09:31, Philip Mallis wrote: > I have been considering how to tag parks that allow dogs to be off-lead. > I’ve had a look through the discussion on a proposed feature on OSM Wiki > but there doesn’t appear to be a useful consensus >

[talk-au] School Years + Private/Public

2017-12-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
It's been bugging me that most schools in OSM in Australia don't have many additional tags describing what years they service, if they are exclusive to one gender or co-ed, if they are private or public, selective or non-selective, etc. I think part of the problem is the tags haven't always been

Re: [talk-au] NTLIS WMS

2017-11-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 28 November 2017 at 05:06, Jubal Harpster wrote: > > Hi Andrew (this time from my Hotmail account) > > On the National AU map Geoscience is listed as the data custodian for the > NTLIS WMS link, and the license for the service points to the general > Geoscience

Re: [talk-au] Import boundary of Googong Foreshores

2017-11-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Sounds fine to me, especially given most NSW national parks have already been imported via the LPI Base Map as you pointed out. You can use both leisure=nature_reserve and boundary=protected_area. I'm not familiar with that reserve but you'll need to pick the closest protect_class you think it

Re: [talk-au] NTLIS WMS

2017-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi Jubal, Sorry, I'm missing the bit how Geoscience Australia extends to cover NTLIS? I'd really like to see the CC BY 4.0 OSMF waiver https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ completed by GA as we've had a case in the past (ACT Government) where an organisation says it's

Re: [talk-au] Sydney OSM Workshop

2017-11-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
heir next speaking night. > You could give a 5 minute pitch to attract people interested in setting up > a mapping event. > https://georabble.org/ > > I'm also CCing the Austrailan QGIS users group where you will likely find > a few interested GIS folks. > > Cheers, Came

[talk-au] Sydney OSM Workshop

2017-10-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've been keen to organise a workshop in Sydney around OpenStreetMap and looking to make it happen later this month. 1. To help get more people involved with OSM, as both: a) contributors and, b) consumers 2. Provide an opportunity for people to share what they are up to with OSM both: a)

Re: [talk-au] Qld topo map usable?

2017-10-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
orporated > in a cinematic production and distributed on a blu-ray disc or > streamed via Netflix with DRM in place. Neither is possible with > derivatives from CC BY licensed material.> Simon > > Am 01.10.2017 um 08:24 schrieb Andrew Harvey: >> I made an enquiry to

Re: [talk-au] Qld topo map usable?

2017-10-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
of it happening. DNRM are very responsive to enquiries like this, which is great. On 1 Oct. 2017 4:50 pm, "Andrew Harvey" <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: Unfortunately not. CC BY 4.0 data isn't compatible with the OSM license, see https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/u

[talk-au] Interchanges

2017-09-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
In Sydney there are a few named interchanges which have a mix of tags (highway=motorway_junction, tourism=attraction, place=locality), they are all the same thing so I'd like to determine the best tags to use. Calga Interchange https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4860741425 Sir Roden Cutler VC

Re: [talk-au] MapRoulette Challenge for invalid phone numbers in Victoria.

2017-09-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I agree 000 is not a contact number for enquiries about the feature it's tagged an, so I'm for removing it. On 8 Sep 2017 8:45 PM, "Warin" <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 08-Sep-17 07:53 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: > These are the numbers that aren't in a valid international or local >

Re: [talk-au] Collaborative Australian Protected Areas Database (CAPAD) 2016

2017-08-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Just wanted to add, that we should get the rights holder to complete the OSMF CC BY waiver https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ (regardless of if it's CC BY 3 or CC BY 4) before using this data. Also noting from the blog "Please do not forget that imports need to follow

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-08-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 16 August 2017 at 23:29, Richard wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 07:44:00AM -0400, john whelan wrote: >> >They have data for all of New Zealand >> 's roads, >> released under a license which is compatible with

Re: [talk-au] A question about the license that applies to a product from OSM data

2017-08-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi Nick, This might help https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases#Case_3:_I_want_to_publish_something_based_on_OSM_and_my_own_data specifically it says: If you created your data without any use of OSM, and don't merge it with OSM, then you have a "collective" database, not a

Re: [talk-au] AU Data licensing

2017-07-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
In theory, yes it should be at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Australia. However it's a bit if a minefield in my opinion. For example there is "Victorian Government data" listed there but no details on why OSM is able to use it. Then you have others like "Australian Capital

Re: [talk-au] Accuracy LPI Base Map, or Geoscience Australia TOPO 250K

2017-06-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017, at 09:41 AM, Warin wrote: > The LPI topo map has the hill some 100 meters to the south and supports > itself with the topo lines shown. Checking the contours, I would move it to the peak shown by the contours to the south of where it is now.

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 2 June 2017 at 18:48, Mark Pulley wrote: > Quoting Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > >> _Truck Parking_ >> Some places have had the name 'Truck Parking' applied to them (service >> roads, parking areas and rest areas too). Not good. >> My confusion here is does this mean

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] ACT CC BY waiver

2017-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks for your thoughts Simon. On Tue, 30 May 2017, at 06:00 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > Andrew, pls jog my memory, is the ACT data available on CC BY 4.0 terms or are the terms based on a earlier version? It's CC BY 4.0 -> http://www.actmapi.act.gov.au/terms.html > The problem with point 2

Re: [talk-au] ACT CC BY waiver

2017-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks for your thoughts Simon. On Tue, 30 May 2017, at 06:00 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > Andrew, pls jog my memory, is the ACT data available on CC BY 4.0 terms or are the terms based on a earlier version? It's CC BY 4.0 -> http://www.actmapi.act.gov.au/terms.html > The problem with point 2

[talk-au] ACT CC BY waiver

2017-05-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I contacted the ACT Government to see if they could complete the CC BY waiver form as provided at https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/. We have previous correspondence at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/Australian_Capital_Territory from which the local

[OSM-legal-talk] ACT CC BY waiver

2017-05-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I contacted the ACT Government to see if they could complete the CC BY waiver form as provided at https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/. We have previous correspondence at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/Australian_Capital_Territory from which the local

Re: [talk-au] Stormwater drains

2017-05-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
You could contact the Data Working Group to put in place a ban until they read a message asking them to respond about importing copyrighted data. On 11 May 2017 11:24 AM, wrote: > Hi > > User Spookylad https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Spookylad appears to be > mapping

Re: [talk-au] NSW GNB licensing

2017-04-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, at 11:10 AM, cleary wrote: > That's good to get the copyright issue fixed. > > However, as I noted in a previous post, I have reservations about GNB > data. Co-ordinates are often incorrect, sometimes by kilometres (even > showing a couple of NSW locations as being across

[talk-au] NSW GNB licensing

2017-04-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Historically Geographical Name Register of NSW data[1] has been used (and is still present) in OSM [2][3]. Based on the latest advice from the OSMF regarding CC BY 4.0[4] content and OSM, the GNB of NSW has completed the waiver form uploaded to

Re: [talk-au] Changing speed limits

2017-03-28 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
You'll need to split the way at the point where the speed limit changes and apply a different maxspeed to each segment. This is how all maxspeed segments I've seen and mapped are done. In your second case where they are just in the wrong spot, if it's only a little bit out you could just move the

Re: [talk-au] NSW Rail Data Import

2017-03-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
? That would allow the OSM community to have a look at this data to see what might be involved in merging it with OSM. Don't hesitate to ask for further help, there are some very passionate people in our OSM community. Best regards, -- Andrew Harvey On Mon, 27 Mar 2017, at 08:13 AM, BYRNE, PATRICIA

Re: [talk-au] CAPAD 2016 Import -- Sample files.

2017-03-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
What's your plan where the protected area already exists in OSM? Do you plan on manually comparing tags and geometry and manually merging? Which will prevail in a conflict? > * The nodes with a note tag have been added as JOSM complains if a segment is longer than 15km (also the note needs to be

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Huge thank you Simon, and those who helped out with this! The cover is a great summary we can pass on to rights holders and the form to be signed appears to provide legal rigour for organisations to grant the additional rights required. On 18 March 2017 at 06:46, Simon Poole

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
ail/talk-au/2011-September/thread.html > > through to about Dec 2011. > > > > On 15/3/17 23:13, Andrew Harvey wrote: >> >> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, at 05:38 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>> G'day all >>> >>> A while back, menti

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
lf would > purely be doing manual checking > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On 15 March 2017 at 22:13, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, at 05:38 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> > G'day all >> > >

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2017-03-15 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, at 05:38 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > G'day all > > A while back, mentioned about using Gold Coast City Council data. > > Been too many other things going on to contact them, but just looked into it again & found this new page:

Re: [talk-au] ACTmapi data and openstreetmap

2017-02-15 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
CC BY is not enough for inclusion in OSM at the moment see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility It looks like Andrew has reached out the the ACT Government to get the required permissions but it doesn't looks like the process is complete yet

Re: [talk-au] Parks Vic data

2017-02-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
nts in addition to the CC-BY? > > I've have already used CAPAD to manually add a couple of parks and tweak > some geometry, but I want to check I'm not going to cause problems by > continuing. > > Thanks, > > Adam > > > On 8 February 2017 at 11:17, Andr

Re: [talk-au] When is a Road a Track

2017-02-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 10 February 2017 at 16:33, Warren wrote: > Do we accept the Main Roads Western Australia data as a list of officially > recognised Roads ( highway = primary, residential, etc not = track or = > path)? > > I accept the point that highway = unclassified could be

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for Pipeline Reserves

2017-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
What about simply landcover=grass and foot=yes? Along with mapping out the pipeline separately? On 8 February 2017 at 11:29, Adam Horan wrote: > My local area (and I'm sure many others) have lots of pipeline reserves.

Re: [talk-au] Harmonisation of the source tag for LPI Base Map

2017-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Absolutely, per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct the plans must be first documented and discussed. Since this affects the local NSW community it should have been posted here on talk-au. The example you gave of http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/442899224/history

Re: [talk-au] Parks Vic data

2017-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 8 February 2017 at 11:08, Ross Scanlon wrote: > capad The links for this are: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Collaborative_Australian_Protected_Areas_Database_(CAPAD) http://www.environment.gov.au/land/nrs/science/capad

Re: [talk-au] Residential Coordinates

2017-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 6 February 2017 at 06:42, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why use Bing Maps? > > For OSM it would be far better to use the LIP Base map for the address data > and then use the LPI Imagery for the building footprint. That aside and the scraping of the original data aside, would we even

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