Re: [OSM-talk] Working with lat and long simply

2016-09-10 Thread john whelan
I see to recall that Australia is on the move. So it would seem that we should retain as much accuracy as possible then if we're a metre out it isn't quite so important. I think any generic addressing scheme is going to suffer from parts of the world moving though and it is a limitation we have

Re: [OSM-talk] Working with lat and long simply

2016-09-10 Thread john whelan
..@bluewin.ch> wrote: > On 10/09/16 17:43, john whelan wrote: > > In many parts of the world addresses don't exist. > > There are multiple schemes that will create addresses using three words, > etc. > > However lat and long exists for everywhere on the planet. > &g

[OSM-talk] Working with lat and long simply

2016-09-10 Thread john whelan
In many parts of the world addresses don't exist. There are multiple schemes that will create addresses using three words, etc. However lat and long exists for everywhere on the planet. Internally .osm files have the lat and long for every POI. However dig it out of the xml code and drop it

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Local community approval building & addresses in Peel region

2016-09-08 Thread john whelan
Good heavens and I thought guidelines meant guidelines not that must do everything that someone has written in the wiki. I think perhaps the use of I would suggest the following in carried out as recommended in the wiki would go a lot further on the community side of things as opposed to thou

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
>I think a super good first step would be try and ensure that future imports are done diligently and don't introduce new issues. I think that is a reasonable way forward, and I concur with the rest of your post. I think we need to identify which parts of CANVEC are giving concern, each province

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
Canvec data has been imported for many years so why the sudden challenge and change? Are you willing to reimport the CANVEC data or are you intent on leaving a blank area in the map? Cheerio John On 1 September 2016 at 15:41, Michael Reichert wrote: > Hi James, > > Am

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
wrote: > Hi John, > > Am 2016-09-01 um 14:47 schrieb john whelan: > > The Canvec data was imported with the knowledge and support of the local > > mappers and I think that's all that matters. > > An import of such a size and has to be discussed and approved on an > i

Re: [Talk-ca] Forests/Land Use, was: Canvec reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
And as someone who has deleted quite a few things in OSM I would agree with that statement. When I didn't have a better replacement available then I prefer not to delete unless I have done a ground level inspection and there really isn't anything there. I think my favourite was a mapper who was

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
Michael, we worked with the Federal Government to get the data released and although there are some problems with it the vast majority is of good quality. Cheerio John On 1 September 2016 at 10:18, dega <gade...@gmail.com> wrote: > On September 1st, John Whelan wrote: > > I sugg

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
It would appear that Michael has no appreciation of how we the local community work or of how large Canada is nor does he appear to be able to communicate with us and understand our concerns. I suggest we formally request that he is prevented from making any changes within Canada and his

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
Note to Michael Reichert I think you should respect the views of the local community. We know the data isn't perfect but for the most part its good data and as Daniel has said when I've imported the work is done in JOSM off line over a period of time so the time apparently taken doesn't really

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-31 Thread john whelan
> we need to have a "Whats up with the forests in Canada?" page on the wiki to explain our situation and how we've tried to deal with it Sounds like a plan. Cheerio John On 30 August 2016 at 22:41, Sam Dyck wrote: > After reading through the changeset discussion, I

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread john whelan
But Daniel's comments make sense, I'm not sure we should go for this type of approach. Still I concur with them. On the forests there is an issue but its not open to a simplistic approach and hence difficult to resolve. John On 30 August 2016 at 18:28, James wrote: > I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread john whelan
>When MP3 appeared it immediately became clear that the era of CD is over. No, anyone who listens to Classical music will tell you they are not the same thing at all. John On 30 August 2016 at 17:05, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > On 30/08/16 20:12, Stefano wrote: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread john whelan
I think the long latitude is unfortunately well understand, groups nearby places together and these days with word-processing and cut and paste not that difficult to handle. Unfortunately it doesn't have a check digit so if it's written with two digits transposed you've had it. Post offices

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM - Gatineau largebuilding

2016-08-23 Thread john whelan
Stats Canada are arranging to make the Ottawa building dataset available on the Federal Government's open data web site to avoid any licencing issues. My understanding is the Gatineau data set will be made available in a similar manner. Jamie is more likely to be conversant with the availability

Re: [OSM-talk] Data Quality and Mapping for the renderer.

2016-08-22 Thread john whelan
t. After a > certain time interval, the POI is marked again as pending review. Then > one would only need to convince someone local to install that app and > check it a few times a year while in their town (or even when they > travel to the neighbouring towns). > > - Svavar Kjar

Re: [OSM-talk] Data Quality and Mapping for the renderer.

2016-08-21 Thread john whelan
tools which display certain types of errors, > for example Osmose [1] and Keep right [2]. The users who don't have much > computer memory installed could use those types of sites instead. > > [1] http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ > [2] http://keepright.at/ > > - Svavar Kja

[OSM-talk] Data Quality and Mapping for the renderer.

2016-08-21 Thread john whelan
Yes I know we shouldn’t but just sometimes it’s nice to think about the people who use the maps. Can we make life a little easier for them? This post is aimed purely at 64 bit Windows users. The tools may work on other operating systems but I haven’t tried them. There are other tools around.

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-08-18 Thread john whelan
Unfortunately there is a lot of GIS work done with postcodes. Where is the best place to put a new coffee shop? Which areas have the most break-ins? Etc. Thus being able to sell postcodes has become a source of income for post offices and since it cost them money to create them they'd like to

Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap at the Crossroads – The Map Room

2016-08-17 Thread john whelan
There are guidelines on imports and change sets can be deleted if they aren't followed but if you leave it too long it gets messy as others add to the map. Cheerio John On 17 August 2016 at 18:44, Laura O'Grady wrote: > Interesting post [1] following up on Michal

Re: [OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-11 Thread john whelan
ow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us> > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:42 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Not quite what I'm looking for. The building is defined as an area but > >> often has no address information, within

Re: [OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-11 Thread john whelan
> > > In Canada Postal Codes are not open data so the only way they can be used > is on an individual address. > I don't understand. What does it make that they are not open data ? One could know that all of their village has the same postcode, so they could simply add a addr:postcode=xxx to their

Re: [OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-11 Thread john whelan
the database to have multiple addressess containing the same information on nodes within a building but that is what we currently have. Cheerio John On 11 August 2016 at 08:22, Frank Villaro-Dixon <fr...@villaro-dixon.eu> wrote: > On 16-08-11 07:42:59, john whelan, wrote 4.7K characte

Re: [OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-11 Thread john whelan
Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 4:02 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Stats can probably associate the building outlines with an internal node >> containing the address but is there a simple way to either copy the address >> information or merge the node

[OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-10 Thread john whelan
Stats Canada is looking at using OSM as a source of data. They are particularly interested in buildings and associated attributes in Ottawa and Gatineau. When I look at Ottawa there are a number of shopping malls, every store has the same address and postcode except they might have a different

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread john whelan
Aug 10, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) < >> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: >> >>> The postal code subject is interesting for many reasons. I read that >>> France has released a National address database, publically and free. >>> >>>

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
2016 at 14:12, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > ​I understand the current intent is data.gc.ca > > There is actually a lot of postcode data in Ottawa adhresses as it stands > especially for commercial buildings. Don't hold your breath for Canada > Post and postcodes

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
​I understand the current intent is data.gc.ca There is actually a lot of postcode data in Ottawa adhresses as it stands especially for commercial buildings. Don't hold your breath for Canada Post and postcodes. Some attributes they would like at the moment I can't see how a mapper would map

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
I think the Stats Canada project is evolving as Bjenk understands a little more about what he’d like and what we can do. My understanding is currently he’s looking getting hold of the City of Ottawa building outline data and making it available to OpenStreetMap without the current license

[Talk-ca] Stats Can Guidelines for mappers

2016-08-04 Thread john whelan
It probably sounds dumb but building:levels etc will need some guidance, for example in the case of a shopping centre where most is single level but part, perhaps a third, is two levels. Gas stations building=roof with a separate building=commercial for the till? Is there somewhere in the OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
Do you really want to add 300,000 building outline to the map? If it was just the non residential ones I think that is reasonable but adding every residential house is adding less value. Can we identify and omit the obvious single family homes? Cheerio John On 3 Aug 2016 7:57 pm, "Ellefsen,

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
ght be useful for the project: > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Los_angeles,_California/Buildings_Import > > > > On Aug 3, 2016 11:04 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Technically we can add to what is there but that adds volume t

[Talk-ca] Wiki comment about Bilingual street names in Ottawa

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
Currently OSMand amongst other rendering systems will display most street names in Ottawa in either English or French according to the settings in the software, some street names have only an English entry. In 2010 a request was made to discuss the issue since the method used although used in

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
Bjenk > > > > *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* August-02-16 3:10 PM > *To:* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>; Ellefsen, Bjenk > (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> > *Subje

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
both city limits in geoJSON format > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In order to identify those buildings that need extra tags it would be >> extremely useful to have a map of Ottawa / Gatineau that could be loaded >&

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
is. Thanks John On 2 Aug 2016 3:56 pm, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Most buildings in Ottawa are wheelchair accessible do you want them tagged > as such, we also have a tag for toilets:wheelchair > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:toilets:whee

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
Most buildings in Ottawa are wheelchair accessible do you want them tagged as such, we also have a tag for toilets:wheelchair which means States if a location has a wheelchair accessible toilet or not. I think this might be useful to map

Re: [Talk-ca] Identifying non residential buildings

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
I think James has answered this one with the building tag. Thank you James. Cheerio John On 2 Aug 2016 2:56 pm, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Stats Canada is after information about them but the first question that > springs to mind is there a tag

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
How many buildings are tagged with a building tag or is that step one tag building with the building tag and type? How do we handle a shopping mall with a building outline and a nodes for the stores? Thanks John On 2 Aug 2016 2:53 pm, "James" wrote: > There is a way to

[Talk-ca] Identifying non residential buildings

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
Stats Canada is after information about them but the first question that springs to mind is there a tag or set of tags we use to identify them? Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-19 Thread john whelan
etailer as they have to collect postal code data of their clients >> to be able to ship their products >> >> On Jul 18, 2016 10:11 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2016-07-18 04:08 PM, john whelan wrote: >>> > >&g

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread john whelan
iter les groupes > intéressés à vous contacter. > > Les contributeurs s'intéressent à diverses problématiques et pourraient > par exemple vous proposer d'intégrer des informations relatives aux types > d'accès aux immeubles publics par les handicapés. > > > Pierre > > > -

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread john whelan
>Board of Directors I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca. Cheerio John On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: > Dear members of the Board of Directors, > > My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and >

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2016-07-12 Thread john whelan
>We're not PR people. We're engineers and developers, and communicate as such. I don't think its called communication. Communication is discussing ideas and respecting others point of view. I may see issues in what is being suggested I may have concerns about the ideas but communication should

Re: [OSM-talk] Open Location Code should we support it?

2016-07-11 Thread john whelan
ble to see where it is hence the suggestion that Nomination could support it. Cheerio John On 11 July 2016 at 20:31, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote: > On 11/07/16 20:58, john whelan wrote: > > In Canada suite 201 would be understood to be 2nd floor suite 1 of the > &

Re: [OSM-talk] Open Location Code should we support it?

2016-07-11 Thread john whelan
by both the person creating it and the person using it? Are you saying there is a better solution for encoding the co-ordinates? Thanks John On 11 July 2016 at 15:47, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote: > On 11/07/16 19:43, john whelan wrote: > > True but suite 201 followed

[OSM-talk] Open Location Code should we support it?

2016-07-11 Thread john whelan
http://openlocationcode.com/ I was thinking if it's not a major problem the full 10 character code should be easy to support in Nomination as it is based on longitude and latitude. I would basically give everyone an address in the world, its Open source and as far as complexity goes the UK uses

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2016-07-11 Thread john whelan
My preference would be the open source solution. The three words one assumes you will recognise the words and many locations use postcodes already these aren't much different. How would we make use of it? Thanks John On 11 July 2016 at 11:23, Blake Girardot wrote: > On a

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-11 Thread john whelan
>yes, armchair mapping generally bears the risk of misinterpreting the actual situation, (depending on what kind of tags you use this can be more or less important). Doing it in search and replace fashion is slightly different though, as you risk falsifying information someone else has

[OSM-talk] Mobile businesses

2016-06-16 Thread john whelan
Locally we're seeing the demise of the local bicycle store with its mechanic but there are a least two cycle mechanics operating out of mobile workshops. You ring or contact them via the Internet. Knowing that many in OSM indulge in cycling I'm wondering if they should be included in the map

Re: [Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread john whelan
over time. Thanks John On 15 Jun 2016 6:14 pm, "Paul Norman" <penor...@mac.com> wrote: > On 6/15/2016 3:08 PM, john whelan wrote: > >> >> Thank you Paul I think that sums up the issue nicely, someone at Stats >> Canada is going to have fun working out which

Re: [Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread john whelan
at all. Fun times, I'm glad I'm retired from Stats Canada these days. Cheerio John On 15 Jun 2016 5:52 pm, "Paul Norman" <penor...@mac.com> wrote: > On 6/15/2016 8:01 AM, john whelan wrote: > >> >> As a first step Stats would like to know the tags used w

Re: [Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread john whelan
t it proves that it could be done. > > Adam > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:31 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> As a first step Stats would like to know the tags used when mapping >> buildings in Canada and the number of times used. This is t

[Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread john whelan
As a first step Stats would like to know the tags used when mapping buildings in Canada and the number of times used. This is to get an idea of what is already mapped and to see which values should be used when new tags are added. I looked at a small sample from Ottawa and noted 127 different

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate house numbers

2016-05-29 Thread john whelan
rent buildings with > different businesses) > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/64.10536/-21.87005 > > > --Jói > > > > Þann 29.5.2016 23:13, skrifaði john whelan: > >> I came across these locally whilst looking in JOSM for something else. >> >> http://

[OSM-talk] Duplicate house numbers

2016-05-29 Thread john whelan
I came across these locally whilst looking in JOSM for something else. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/87480616#map=18/45.47153/-75.51310 Is there a tool to look for duplicate house numbers that are very close? I suspect an import of some type but more importantly is the problem of cleaning

Re: [Talk-ca] source http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/

2016-05-26 Thread john whelan
e when the license change will > happen or if it will (and they are just dicking around). > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:44 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I was looking in downtown Ottawa when I noticed two sets of addresses in >> the map. >

[Talk-ca] source http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/

2016-05-25 Thread john whelan
I was looking in downtown Ottawa when I noticed two sets of addresses in the map. One appears to be labelled source=http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/ which is city of Ottawa Open data portal which to my understanding isn't licensed for our use. I'm not certain how many other things have been

Re: [OSM-talk] OT: How do you read OSM Emaillists?

2016-05-20 Thread john whelan
When Mozilla decide to freeze development on Thunderbird the team split off and created Postbox. I have Postbox and use it so bug me directly and I'll see if it has the features you want. It is very similar to Thunderbird and is being actively developed. Cheerio John On 20 May 2016 at 09:28,

Re: [Talk-ca] Red Cross and Fort McMurray Fires

2016-05-13 Thread john whelan
gt; wrote: >>> >>>> Hi John, >>>> >>>> Dale is the American Red Cross GIS Team Lead. I'm on his team and have >>>> been deployed to Canada to work in-person with the Canadian Red Cross. In >>>> terms of OSM-CA / Red Cross coordinat

Re: [Talk-ca] Red Cross and Fort McMurray Fires

2016-05-13 Thread john whelan
Have you talked to dale.ku...@redcross.org? A coordinated approach might be better. OSM can use data obtained through the Gov Canada open data portal and has done in the past as far as I am aware. Thanks John On 13 May 2016 at 14:37, Dan Joseph wrote: > Hi James, > >

[OSM-talk] India wants to license maps

2016-05-12 Thread john whelan
It may impact us. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36276754 Cheerio John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan
region. For addressing do you > mean building by building or CanVec interpolation? > On May 9, 2016 5:11 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add >> addresses, the processes

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan
Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its difficult to say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't been added and that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times. Are we

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan
Given that the US Red Cross are getting involved and have a need for buildings to be mapped so they can use their tool set is there any data sets we might be able to get hold of. I'm thinking of using the Treasury Broad gateway which means its licensed for OSM but TB are also working with the

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-05 Thread john whelan
else? … > > Daniel > > > > *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* May-05-16 14:04 > *To:* Begin Daniel > *Cc:* James; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap > > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires > > > > Mojgan recently imported some St

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-05 Thread john whelan
c are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for > buildings, and I do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan? > > > > Daniel > > > > *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* May-05-16 12:42 > *To:* john whelan > *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetM

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-05 Thread john whelan
I'm not so sure of how much value this is. HOT doesn't activate until it gets a request from the ground for that reason. If it does then we get two tile systems over the same area. Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every building, Ottawa certainly does.

Re: [OSM-talk] osm maps on wikipedia - discussion

2016-04-29 Thread john whelan
I agree a very nice introduction and it shows the differences. Thanks John On 29 April 2016 at 10:25, Clifford Snow wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: > >> I've just created a quick, friendly wiki page to

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-27 Thread john whelan
just about work downtown. Cheerio John On 27 April 2016 at 12:38, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: > This task was created for testing I believe. > > > > *From:* Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* April-24-16 7:20 AM >

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle GPS traces - more opendata

2016-04-27 Thread john whelan
lto...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25/04/2016, John Whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > could the cycling fraternity come up with a process to > > store this type of data as open data? > > Have you tried using OSM's existing trove of traces ? There's no > metadata

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou

2016-04-26 Thread john whelan
>You seem not to imagine for a second people in the South can take initiatives and do things by themselves, without resorting to a charity from the North. Yours was a long post and I won’t go into detail on each point but these are the major ones: I have no issue with someone spending their own

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread john whelan
>John, Ulule does not charge 40%, the fees reasonably amount to 7 or 8%, that's a notable difference. If I donate $100 to a charity the net cost to me is $60 and $100 is more or less available at the end. If I donate $60 to the crowdsourcing then $55 arrives at the end. So if we can get

[OSM-talk] Bicycle GPS traces - more opendata

2016-04-25 Thread John Whelan
Apols it looks as if only pact of my message got sent. My local city is purchasing bicycle GPS track data from a company that has a fitness app. Apparently many cities would like this sort of data. However it doesn't capture those who don't have a smartphone nor those who choose not to

[Talk-ca] Bicycle GPS tracks

2016-04-25 Thread John Whelan
My local city is purchasing bicycle GPS track data from a company that has a fitness app. Apparently many cities would like this sort of data. However it doesn't capture those who don't have a smartphone nor those who choose not to install a commercial app on their phone. OSM has a history

[OSM-talk] Bicycle GPS traces - more opendata

2016-04-25 Thread john whelan
My local city is purchasing bicycle GPS track data from a company that has a fitness app. Apparently many cities would like this sort of data. However it doesn ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread John Whelan
My thoughts would run along the lines of working with an existing charity to put some feet on the ground and more detail in the maps. That way the donated dollars go further, crowd sourcing takes a percentage, in Canada there is a 40% tax break on charitable giving so its stretches the

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread john whelan
There seems to be fairly reasonable free mapbox imagery of this area available. There is a lot of very reasonable African imagery available that has not yet been mapped. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1087 is an example. Cheerio John On 25 April 2016 at 10:17, nicolas chavent

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-22 Thread john whelan
Since you're looking to combine data from different sources I assume you know about the TB standards for addresses? I think they're mentioned here: http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?id=16553 I'm not sure how those standards would map to OSM and if all the elements are there. Apols to

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-22 Thread John Whelan
Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) wrote: 1. precise location (coordinates, polygon) 2. footprint, size 3. year of construction 4. activities (use) 5. number of floors above ground 6. address (number, street, postal code) I think the first step might be to identify which tags are either in map

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-21 Thread john whelan
MSF have used this approach in Africa etc with the HOT mapping but you need the bodies to map the data. There maybe enough data in OSM already but the structure/tags might not be as you'd prefer. Cheerio John On 21 April 2016 at 11:35, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>

Re: [Talk-ca] Attributs des sentiers de vélo de montagne

2016-04-20 Thread john whelan
>petits chemins dans des parcs publics In Ottawa these are very definitely paths not footways, cycling etc is permitted. Cheerio John 2016-04-20 20:52 GMT-04:00 Bruno Remy : > Bonjour, > > Remarque très pertinente, Claude. > Cette recommandation mériterait d'être prise

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Slack

2016-04-02 Thread john whelan
I think we are talking different things and they are best suited to different needs. Personnally I hate being interupted, so Slack or something like it that waves at me and says look at this pretty picture doesn't work well for me. Neither does IRC to be honest. It is reasonably complex to set

[Talk-ca] bus stops, post codes and rent-a-crowd

2016-03-19 Thread john whelan
​Mojgan recently identified that data from the government of Canada’s open data portal could be imported into OSM. I was nattering to Treasury board today and they were aware of the interest in Post Code data. Some of the Open Data crowd are making a push to try and get the Post Code data

Re: [Talk-ca] what looks to be imports in North Vancouver - valid?

2016-03-19 Thread john whelan
That would be my interpretation as well so there is hope for James's bus stops in Ottawa. Cheerio John On 17 March 2016 at 12:33, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Hi Michael > > Hi, > > > > I see a bunch of activities by user Marcott such as this (see comment in > > this and other

Re: [Talk-ca] bus stops, post codes and rent-a-crowd

2016-03-18 Thread john whelan
6, 2016 8:22 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ​Mojgan recently identified that data from the government of Canada’s >> open data portal could be imported into OSM. >> >> I was nattering to Treasury board today and they were aware of

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Thread john whelan
March 2016 at 09:02, Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-03-01 07:19 AM, john whelan wrote: > > > > My understanding of the terms and conditions for uploading data is you > > have to give permission for OSM to change the license from ODBl. > > Isn

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Thread john whelan
n 1 March 2016 at 02:40, Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> wrote: > On 2016-02-29 2:46 AM, john whelan wrote: > > I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the > license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to > City of Ottawa

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-29 Thread john whelan
was from an > import vs user created. > On Feb 28, 2016 8:48 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the >> license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to &g

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-28 Thread john whelan
I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to City of Ottawa etc we'd like your data but we don't know what license it may have in OSM in the future. Is anyone going to take the responsibility on

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-28 Thread john whelan
nor to removing any bus stops already mapped. Oh well such is life. Cheerio John On 28 February 2016 at 15:19, Andrew MacKinnon <andrew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Feb 28, 2016 3:05 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > It appears in au

[Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-28 Thread john whelan
It appears in august 2013 user andrewpmk imported the OC transpo bus stops, which is fine I don't have a problem with imports but I understand OC transpo issue a new updated GTFS file every year. Are there plans to reimport all the bus stops or will they simply become unreliable? ie most will be

Re: [Talk-ca] Triplinx import

2016-02-01 Thread john whelan
I had a skype call with Mojgan where we discussed some of the issues and there was an email sent to talk-ca on Jan 12th 2016. To me a couple of issues first are that the Stats Canada data was designed for Stats Canada use, probably for the labour force survey and as such provided the interviewer

Re: [Talk-ca] Metrolinx: OSM Golden Horseshoe Address Data

2016-01-12 Thread john whelan
The issue has come up in Ottawa as well, some street names or incorrect, the city has been correcting them but there are some hundred to be changed when I spoke to the person at the city. CANVEC address import seems often to have been done by different people in different ways and in Ottawa many

Re: [OSM-talk] Involving Cyclists in OSM

2015-12-08 Thread john whelan
To start OSMAND off line map with cycle selected for the routing, nice if you have a GPS android device. The difficulty with cycling is the rules vary from place to place in Canada for example cycling on sidewalks is not permitted but often cyclists will cycle ten yards on the sidewalk in order

Re: [OSM-talk] FOSM Elections - We need representatives that can represent and respect the diversity of OSM, maintain his dynamism

2015-12-01 Thread john whelan
Pierre I think you meant OpenStreetMap Foundation not FOSM, FOSM is a fairly quiet fork of OSM whilst I think OpenStreetMap Foundation controls the direction of OSM. Cheerio John On 1 December 2015 at 15:29, Pierre Béland wrote: > > I started to contribute to the OSM project

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-24 Thread john whelan
My personal view is it doesn't really matter. It is an election as I understand it so members do vote for whom they wish to represent them. Perhaps a larger concern might be the concentration of board members from a particular country or region. Cheerio John On 24 November 2015 at 18:01,

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-18 Thread john whelan
HOT and OSM are slightly different, HOT maps on OSM but uses a simpler more standardized approach. Many of their volunteers often do not know enough English to write a meaningful change set comment. HOT tends to map in areas that do not have a great deal of OSM mapping already in place so I

[OSM-talk] Odd edits by rowers2 in Cameroon

2015-11-11 Thread john whelan
Visible at 7.4396667 7.4711556 15.5891705 15.6047916 There is nothing visible in Bing or Mapbox but that doesn't mean much but the shape and detail of the edits are suspicious to me and they seem to have made a very large number of edits recently in their history. Could someone be nice and

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