Hallo,
Ende Oktober ist wieder ein Hack-Weekend in Karlsruhe angesagt, und
alle, die nicht ganz allein an ihrem Projekt basteln wollen, sind bei
uns willkommen. Alles weitere hier:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Hack_Weekend_October_2017
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fic publications on OSM so that those
who don't bother to get their facts right are held accountable for the
bad science they inevitably produce.
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ive product and service names used in OSM-space,
I don't see why I should call something that simply is an OSM WMS by a
creative name that requires everyone to follow an extra indirection to
understand what it is.
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s sich bei den 24
juristischen Personen, die im FOSSGIS Mitglied sind, in den meisten
Fällen um Klein- und Kleinstunternehmen handelt und nicht um das "große
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ed to find an optimal
solution, or could there be freak cases where a sub-optimal solution is
returned?
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out the flaws in it, and I agree it would be nice if we could
ensure that if researches criticize OSM in the future - and there's
certainly a lot to criticize - they at least get their facts right.
I want to live in a society where everyone is free to say their opinion,
but I don't want to li
have the same proportion of assholes that exists in the whole
of society? And if we do, is it our fault that we need to remedy, or
should we be applauded for representing a diverse part of the population ;)
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sible, takedown on that 2013 Monica Stephens article though. At the
time I thought "oh well, bad research comes and goes, no need to start a
fight every time a researcher writes something wrong about OSM", but
that one seems to be found, believed in, and quoted by other researchers
just too
r* a gap between
neihgbouring admin_level 4 areas!) would be assumed to be governed by
that admin_level 3 body.
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le"
> tagging without multipolygons.
If you mean not only "without multipolygons" but "without boundary
relations" too then I think you should stop right here and leave it to
people who can work with relations.
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Hallo,
On 08.07.2017 01:38, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> Welche Projektion wurde denn nun verwendet?
Zoom 0: Robinson
Zoom 1: Robinson
Zoom 2: Natural Earth
Zoom 3: Eckert III
Zoom 4: Plate Carree
Zoom 5: Miller
Ab Zoom 6 dann die übliche Web Mercator
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simultan anzuzeigen.
Der Kartenstil, der dem OpenStreetMap-Stil angenähert ist, sowie die
Schriftsetzung und die gewählte Sprache sollen bei der Auswertung der
Umfrage außer Acht gelassen werden, da das Augenmerk auf den
Projektionen liegt.
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else
{
print ",$_";
}
}
print "\n";
}
--- cut ---
And you'll end up with something like my "one trick ponies" CSV posted
in the other thread.
This is all super hacky of course, suffers from lack of proper escaping
and XML parsing, and could all be done properly in a more modern
language. But if this encourages one or two people to play a bit then
maybe it was already useful.
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dumping ground.
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Hi,
On 05.07.2017 23:05, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I've done some numbers, maybe it helps.
The CSVs I uploaded were a bit difficult to process because of lack of
escaping. I've made a new one here
http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/one-trick-ponies.csv
To recap, this file contains all changes
should
revert them all automatically? (Keep in mind many may have been reverted
already - we'd only work on those where the spam version is still current.)
and
http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/other.csv
for those where the username is not (fully) in the URL.
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t that the freedom to sign up and import data without consultation
is what the community wants us to uphold.
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144 GB of
RAM.
Also if it is important for you to switch to a new data version without
a production interruption of a few minutes, you need enough RAM to hold
the routing graph twice.
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ing a changeset planet and feeding all changeset
comments to some sort of Bayes filter could help identify more problems.
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(*) Where I live this term would be considered really offensive towards
those who do this kind of work but it seems to be the normal term in the US?
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Or did these accounts also
contribute good data?
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t a few pairs of critical eyeballs to ensure they don't embarrass
themselves with a broken or silly import.
If you do not have the time to offer solid feedback, then hold back on
it until you do. A knee-jerk "+1" makes a mockery of the process.
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were more important for me than fast routing times...?
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seums closed several years ago and the area is
now private housing."
I'll leave it to you to figure out what these coordinates mean and which
museums may need to be checked ;)
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m Eifer auch einige nachweislich
falsche Änderungen eingeführt, nämlich an Orten, wo explizit sogar das
Vorhandensein eines abweichenden Tempolimits gemappt war!
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l also ask the property developer if they have better information but
of course nothing beats a field survey.
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ons for retail
chains as a service) and Mail.ru (the company behind maps.me).
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accurate enough, probably get them from Google.
I voiced the same general concern, but a random sample I checked of the
(actually rather few) stations that are proposed to be newly added
seemed to be impeccably placed.
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Im "ID"-Editor und in Vespucci sind die neuen Bildquellen bereits
verfügbar, JOSM wird sicherlich bald folgen.
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not the project for you".
For me there is a very big difference between hiding user names
altogether, and hiding user names from "project outsiders who haven't
clicked a button promising that they will play by our rules".
What's been done by Pascal, and what I am advocating,
also map everything else that is not
visible on the ground" - no! And you're doing it the other way round,
saying "your privacy goes down the drain if you do anything online
anyway, so why should we at OSM take steps to protect it more".
Perhaps: because we can, and because it's a good
user information (needed for quality control
etc.) under separate rules (that say "for project internal use only").
This would automatically mean, that someone who runs a HDYC-like site
would have to put a login in front of the site in order to ensure that
he complies with the &qu
n community and you can become a member with a few mouse clicks. But
I think the symbolism is of value and I support Pascal's decision.
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ze the person. Currently when someone asks us
to delete their account we simply replace their user name with user_1234
(their numeric user id); it is quite possible that this is totally
insufficient at least in countries with strong data protection laws such
as the UK because the person can still
in: "I am ok with you publishing this particular
work with my name in it") from the participants. Would that really be
such a big issue? I think you're making this into a much bigger issue
than it needs to be.
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rivacy online. And it is not just a legal issue; you might call it a
"moral panic", I call it a moral duty to do everything we can to ensure
that our mappers don't suffer disadvantages from contributing to OSM.
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Just posted the below to osmf-talk but I want to cast the net a little
wider!
Forwarded Message
Subject: [Osmf-talk] OSMF is looking for an UK accountant
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 23:39:42 +0200
From: Frederik Ramm <frede...@osmfoundation.org>
Organization: OpenStreetMap Foun
en zu Pascal, dass er mit dieser Information kein Schindluder
treibt. Und ich kann ihn ja ab und zu mal mit Berufung auf das BDSG um
eine Auskunft zu den zu mir gespeicherten Daten bitten. *wegrenn* ;)
Ach nee, dann müsste ich ihm ja meine ganzen Sockenpuppen verraten.
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k them if that kind of notice is enough.
This is a similar issue as we always have with CC-BY licensed data.
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h habe die optimistische Hoffnung, dass wir vielleicht schon auf der
diesjährigen SOTM "feierlich" ein Agreement unterschreiben können.
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for details.
(I chuckled when I read that message which begins with a complaint about
the mailing lists.)
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.
The history files for the regions have not been generated yet but they
will follow soon.
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ouched by the
user ndm (using a "for" loop and undo.pl)
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ith the way, hence Potlatch "sees" a changed way.
I have moved the nodes back to where they were before ndm touched them.
Could you take it on you to inform ndm and maybe find out what they
tried to achieve?
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people who are not at all local to the area just to "colour it green".
This is undesirable in my opinion.
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worth keeping at all.
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wir eigentlich gar nicht primär darüber reden
sollten, was wir *müssen* - das ist sicher auch wichtig, aber da kann
sich ja die LWG drum kümmern -, sondern darüber, was wir *wollen*.
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ir-nichts in der
Gegend verteilen, sondern dass sie nur zu Zwecken der notwendigen
Qualitätskontrolle und Zusammenarbeit im Projekt verwendet werden.
Trotzdem wäre Missbrauch leicht - man muss sich ja nur einen Account
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e class of "bad imports that
warrant an immediate revert", but they are not issues I would like to
see in an import hailed as an example to be followed by others.
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ity. Put more cynically: A map without a local community is not
able to survive, and has never been, and it was perhaps a mistake to put
it there in the first place.
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but not had any takers willing to do the work until now.
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quot; then you will only deal with one diff file
that has all the changes.
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g on presets and tag translations and maybe even
styling tools that abstract from tags will help to include not only
English-speaking technically-interested women, but also everyone who
doesn't speak English and everyone who doesn't deal with databases as a
hobby.
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l mappers could investigate the differences and make adjustments
where deemed sensible.
And while our ODbL licensed data is probably not suitable for direct
back-import into the state highway department's database, they might
actually find such a comparison useful as well - maybe it can help them
spot e
Hi,
is anyone in contact with mappers in Saudi Arabia? Is there such a
thing as a Saudi Arabian OSM community and if so, what communications
channel do they use - mailing list, forum, Facebook group, a messaging
service...?
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actually pop up somewhere, but user profiles...?
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to follow the coastline, and in the course of that,
a bit of the state boundary was lost.
Lack of local knowledge kept me from dabbling in city and county
boundaries in that corner so some of those might still be incomplete.
Perhaps someone can have a look.
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es genutzt ist (~5400 mal)?
Mir scheint, dass der überwiegende Teil dieser 5400 Nutzungen von zwei
oder drei Benutzern stammen. Das "wird viel genutzt"-Argument zieht also
m.E. nicht wirklich.
Andersrum gesagt, wenn sich einer ein Tag ausdenkt und zwei andre mit
aufspringen und die d
Hi,
I added the takeaway from this discussion to the wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aboundary%3Dnational_park=revision=1424102=1373291
Feel free to amend as necessary.
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but we have
boundary=national_park
delivery=no
hgv=no
leisure=park
Is our definition of national park different than Wikipedia's, or should
one of the two be changed?
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Hi,
On 01/23/2017 11:13 PM, Michael Corey wrote:
> Does anyone have thoughts on how to do this most efficiently and without
> causing major headaches?
I wouldn't bother, it's going to be replaced by a wall soon anyway!
SCNR
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kommen diese
OSM-Changeset-Diskussionseinträge auch einfach nicht an einem Spamfilter
vorbei.
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ct via a changeset discussion and find
out what happened and what the user was doing/thinking. If necessary,
the edit can then be reverted.
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rules. In some cases, the rules can be interpreted one
way or another, but this here is not even a close call. Just like the
tile policy says that you get blocked if you abuse the tile server, so
does the mechanical edit policy say that un-discussed mass edits like
this are subject to revert.
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o
actually knows the area they are working in has the time to add Wikidata
tags. That will yield much higher quality data than some automated matching.
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thähne eine Auszeit bekommen. (Dabei ist es irrelevant,
wer "angefangen" hat.) Also: Konsens suchen, Community einbeziehen,
Kompromiss schliessen, auch wenn's schwerer fällt als den Revert-Button
zu drücken.
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d ja
schön, vorausgesetzt aber, es gibt diese Footways auch wirklich.
Frohe Weihnachten!
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uspicion was correct. It should be easy enough to
disprove but instead we're seeing statements, attacks and excuses worthy
of an US election twitter exchange.
But maybe I'm overreacting and I'm prepared to let the matter rest if
the Canadian community finds that nomal.
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algorithm we can run to detect buildings,
Google can run 1000 times faster and with a fraction of the error rate,
leading to 1000 times more and 10 times better data of that kind than we
can accumulate. This is not a field in which we can, or should attempt
to, compete.
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noch vor Weihnachten
eine Einreichung macht und Euch dann später nochmal einloggt und am Text
feilt (das geht im Interface problemlos) - besser als die Sache vor sich
herzuschieben und dann kommt ihr nicht mehr dazu ;)
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(das geht im Interface problemlos) - besser als die Sache vor sich
herzuschieben und dann kommt ihr nicht mehr dazu ;)
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> Gibt es da aus Deiner Probleme? welche?
Warten wir mal ab, bis die ersten Hydranten als Flächenobjekte
eingetragen werden, und schauen wir mal, was der "simple POI-Editor"
dann daraus macht ;)
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die ihre "Handarbeit" so schnell verrichten,
dass man sich fragt, ob da überhaupt noch Zeit für die gebotene Sorgfalt
bleibt ;)
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offered by OSM's individual house numbering, but this seems to be a
format commonly used by providers of proprietary data and hence there's
software that expects that format.
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ki/Key:healthcare)
but somethink like "fast, friendly, convenient" or "small enough for X
yet large enough for Y" is not something that can be put in OSM.
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than a "short introduction" available for newcomers lest their work may
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reetmap.de zu arbeiten.
Und was mit "fummelig"?
Es der Touch-Support von Leaflet, der Dir Probleme macht, oder das
Fehlen von hochaufgelösten Tiles, oder...?
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sufficient, and we don't want to copy stuff from Wikidata.
(Nor do we want to copy stuff from OSM *into* Wikidata because this
would then make parts of Wikidata ODbL licensed, something that Wikidata
certainly won't approve of.)
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ich
müsste allen, die das vielleicht später mal hören, den Kontext erklären.
Wenn einfach Gäste anwesend sind, ist es nicht so schlimm, die können ja
fragen, wenn was unklar ist.
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osals aufgestellt werden ;)
Ich hab mal eine Wikiseite angelegt, aber natürlich könnt ihr das auch
alles ganz wo anders diskutieren, wenn das besser ist:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Full_Stack_Sandbox
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er be considered
superior to an actual survey.
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mit dem ClamAV (Virenscanner) auf dem
Mailserver. Es wird dran gearbeitet ;)
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John,
the bulk of the revert has run its course, I'm just sifting through
the remaining incomplete things for a little fixup here and there. I
think normal mapping should be safe now ;)
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ertrag unterschreiben ;)
Nach meiner Einschätzung sind die Punkte 5-7 reine Formsache; die Punkte
2 und ggf. 4 sind die, auf die es ankommt. Wenn die deutsche Community
keine Lust auf die Sache hat, dann braucht man auch nicht weiter drüber
zu reden ;)
Was sagt ihr dazu?
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Hi,
On 10/18/2016 07:53 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Unfortunately the import was larger than expected and the revert drags
> on.
And it still does! I was going a bit slower today in order not to
overload the API.
Thank you everyone for letting the revert run its course without
inter
up a poor revert should be the
person who ran it ;) it's only 30% complete and will run far into the
night in my time zone and I'll have to check on it after getting up. I'm
confident all will be fixed when you get up tomorrow morning.
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reverting this import (and the deletions that went with
it) now. Not because we shouldn't ever import the data, but because I
don't want a fait accompli to stand in the way of a serious discussion
about the matter.
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look good in large print but I do like
it about the current logo that there are details to discover when you
look closer.
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es. The magnifying glass is hard to explain when there's nothing
under it but I think we have reached an age where it is ok to simply
hold on to something because of tradition ;)
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