Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Postal Code Extract

2013-08-30 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 8/30/13 6:12 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: You may want to double-check with the Post Office, to find out whether there is the possibility that there may legitimately be outliers in some cases. I don't think the US Post Office guarantees that zip codes will always define a single polygon with

Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-08-17 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 8/17/13 2:19 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: county route shields are not rendered in California. What is required to get them in? I have checked relations are following the same style as in New York where shields are currently rendered. California uses the standard county shield and it

[Talk-us] jobs discussion appropriate?

2013-08-08 Per discussione Richard Welty
one notable omission from the list of openstreetmap mailing lists is something like jobs or talk-jobs. other communities have such lists. is this something worth trying to get set up? i suspect that jobs/consulting discussion would seem out of place on talk or talk-us even though they are

Re: [Talk-us] jobs discussion appropriate?

2013-08-08 Per discussione Richard Welty
i've been on the postgresql jobs list a long time, it's low traffic but very useful. who owns the mailman installation? i'd be happy to ask them to set up a list, and happy to keep an eye on it. richard On 8/8/13 9:10 AM, a...@mapbox.com wrote: +1 for trying a jobs list. I'd be just curious

Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-08-06 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 8/6/13 10:49 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us http://osm.us tile server. there are a number of things still to be resolved in many places. the thing to do is identify problems and then pitch in fixing them. a

[Talk-us] route relations and non-rendering of shields

2013-08-04 Per discussione Richard Welty
there are some NYS routes where we want to build relations, but we don't actually want any sort of ref tag or shield rendering, at least not by default. these are the NYS reference routes, generally numbered 9xx followed by a letter. four of these routes have signs posted, none of the others

Re: [Talk-us] route relations and non-rendering of shields

2013-08-04 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 8/4/13 4:21 PM, Richard Welty wrote: there are some NYS routes where we want to build relations, but we don't actually want any sort of ref tag or shield rendering, at least not by default. these are the NYS reference routes, generally numbered 9xx followed by a letter. four of these routes

Re: [Talk-us] route relations and non-rendering of shields

2013-08-04 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 8/4/13 8:25 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: unsigned_ref is currently used on 31,578 ways and 381 relations. [1] That's what I'm using for counties that only post their route numbers on mileposts, since you can't navigate by these numbers. [2][3] i can certainly move to that although the more i

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate 64 and its spur interstates (I-64, I-264, I-464) changed to primary status in Virginia Beach, VA

2013-08-03 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 8/3/13 9:55 AM, Evan Robohm wrote: Hello all, I was just browsing the map this morning and discovered that a majority of the Interstates in the Virginia Beach, VA Metro area have been changed to highway=primary status. I thought it would be pertinent to report this immediately. The changes

Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-08-02 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 8/2/13 9:12 AM, Ian Dees wrote: On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: how frequently do the tiles get updated right now? i'm treating this as a reason to fix the network tags for county routes in upstate NY

Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-07-30 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 7/30/13 2:48 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Phil! Gold writes: I would not at all object if people put together similar references for other states with diverse county sign styles. :) Wikipedia to the rescue? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_routes_in_New_York helpful but perhaps not

Re: [Talk-us] Chapter Board Elections

2013-07-30 Per discussione Richard Welty
the board is currently 5 members. i don't off the top of my head recall if that's in the bylaws or part of the standing rules (things specified in the standing rules are much easier to change.) On 7/30/13 1:56 PM, Kathleen Danielson wrote: Hi Martijn (and other board members), Can you talk

Re: [Talk-us] Chapter Board Elections

2013-07-30 Per discussione Richard Welty
for all practical purposes, anyone with an OSM wiki account. seconds are not a requirement, merely a way to show support, so the times i've run the election i have not actually done any verification of seconds. it appears i'll be running this election, and i wasn't planning to change much of

Re: [Talk-us] Best way to tag mile and interpretive markers?

2013-07-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 7/22/13 9:24 PM, Thomas Colson wrote: This draws me back to my original E911 discussion: Many calls we get start with I just passed MM 9... Thus MMs have value. And yes, each DOT has their own MM scheme. Maddening to follow, even more maddening when numerous mappers have a different

Re: [Talk-us] Update on highway shield rendering

2013-07-11 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 7/11/13 4:20 PM, James Mast wrote: Just so you know Phil, I've fixed up US-21 and it's children in the Elkin/Jonesville area a few minutes ago. I removed US-21's relation from the US-21 Bypass route and added a note=* tag explaining the gap. Hopefully that will prevent anybody else from

Re: [Talk-us] Update on highway shield rendering

2013-07-10 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 7/10/13 9:14 AM, Phil! Gold wrote: Also, I note that someone has added ref=NJTP to the New Jersey Turnpike, which breaks my rendering there. I do support ref=initials tags for some New York parkways, because that's basically how the signs look, but I'm not sure how reasonable it is for the

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a super-two highway (trunk or motorway?)

2013-06-25 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/25/13 10:40 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm under the understanding that the consensus for a motorway would be fully multiple (at minimum 2) carriageway with limited access, whereas a trunk would be any motorway that doesn't meet that criteria (intersections, single carriageway, etc). Could I

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a super-two highway (trunk or motorway?)

2013-06-25 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/25/13 8:49 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: It's not the number of lanes that makes the distinction, but the character of the road. People don't expect an undivided motorway, but describing it as a trunk will cue most renderers to go for something motorway-like but not quite there. A super-two

Re: [Talk-us] Hamlets!

2013-06-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/22/13 11:42 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: On 06/21/2013 08:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: The map should reflect ground reality, so unless there are hamlets in these places, we should strive to fix them. By sharing our experiences, we can have a better sense of how others are doing that, and we

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/22/13 9:04 PM, Paul Norman wrote: ...lots of good points... Something else worth noting is this isn't an either-or situation for geocoding. There is no reason you can't have both the street address and postal address geocode to the same physical location. It is common to have multiple

Re: [Talk-us] Hamlets!

2013-06-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/21/13 9:17 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: During the TIGER import, small neighborhoods were imported as hamlets. I am not sure what this means in rural areas, but in urban places, hamlets are often just places like apartment complexes, or other nondescript places. i think this varies

Re: [Talk-us] Hamlets!

2013-06-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/21/13 11:07 AM, Sean Bartell wrote: I realized only after last week's discussion about neighborhoods that the hamlets (which are distinct from nehighborhoods) are the things messing up the geocoder. A neighborhood is understood to be a place that's not often in an address, but a hamlet is

[Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
i think we probably need to specify this. do we want geocoding to reference postal addresses, e.g. 123 Example Street Anytown, IA, 12345 to resolve as a proper postal address both forwards and back, or do we want it to resolve within some recognized boundary for Anytown? these are different,

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/21/13 9:39 PM, Mike N wrote: On 6/21/2013 1:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: there is no single solution to both of these problems. the current handling of this in Nominatum is so far as i know focused on admin boundaries, and will not handle the postal address case properly. so what do we

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-17 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/17/13 10:19 PM, Jason Remillard wrote: Hi, If the way is part of relation that has a ref, and the way itself does not have a ref, then the relation ref should propagate to the way. If the way has a ref, then that is what should be used regardless if its in a relation or not. Would that

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-07 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/7/13 9:59 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: Given that, I think it's only really useful to discuss whether any specific route merits a proposed tag, with the facts of that situation. we probably want to see this as a life cycle issue relating to any sort of highway/route situation, not just these

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-07 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 6/7/13 8:44 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: If we're going for accuracy, corridor proposals should be mapped as a polygon. They are area features which may someday become linear. That said, I don't think that such early proposals belong in the database at all. i think they can go in when they can

Re: [Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-05-31 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 5/31/13 2:57 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Craigslist had added a feature to their OSM powered maps to submit map problems back to OSM Have you found that feature actually on craigslist? i'd going to go take a look at the UI if i can find it. there is a note on the wiki page for the new feature:

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 5/31/13 9:39 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: I've been working on finding and fixing them in New York State. I've probably got more than half -- maybe 60% fixed. Hopefully even 70%. And I'm just one mapper (well, and you're another mapper who's done a ton, plus there's a few more I'm sure). My main

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed small import of UTA bus stops

2013-04-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 4/22/13 4:08 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 22/apr/2013, at 02:55, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Paragraph 5 states: 'UTA grants You a limited, revocable license to use, reproduce, and redistribute UTA’s Web Services API (“Data”) in accordance with the terms of this section

Re: [Talk-us] Examples Gov using OSM

2013-03-26 Per discussione Richard Welty
i was under the impression that the Code For America folks had done a bunch of work with local governments on stuff that used OSM as a basemap. i'm working on my emergency services thing, but i haven't quite got any local FDs signed up just yet. richard On 3/26/13 10:30 AM, alyssa wright

Re: [Talk-us] key source:maxspeed

2013-03-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 3/21/13 1:30 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Here in the U.S. such implicit speed limits are fairly rare except within cities where most residential roads are assumed to be 30 mph. All highways here are explicitly signed with the applicable speed limit so the established use of the source:maxspeed

Re: [Talk-us] How to tag toll roads

2013-03-17 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 3/17/13 11:09 PM, Evan Robohm wrote: My question is how literally should we as mappers tag them--like the Wiki page says or as they're advertised on road signs? This also applies to how ramps are tagged--does toll=yes only apply to ramps with toll booths or to ramps that lead into/out of a

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-16 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 3/16/13 7:59 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Eric, I'm in general favor of your idea. I think that if we can get more accurate, up to date data out of TIGER, then we should. I'd strongly encourage you to join us on the OSM US Import Committee list:

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-12 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 3/12/13 5:00 PM, Mike N wrote: On 3/11/2013 10:10 PM, Eric Fischer wrote: The results of application will depend on both the original data and the 2012 data. For layouts with 'regular geometry' - roughly square, rectangular, or rhomboid layouts, the results will be generally good. For

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 3/10/13 8:55 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: It's fine to tag a route as proposed but proposed by who? Let's not get hung up in the semantics; it basically means for all practical purposes not live yet. i've stayed

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War Mapping

2013-02-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
[the following includes a message that Adam cc'd to the list that probably got into the moderator queue] On 2/22/13 9:03 AM, Adam Schreiber wrote: On 2/21/13, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i look forward to it. is there any particular mapping task i should look

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data next steps

2013-02-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 2/22/13 12:35 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I always find it boggling that open data projects are willing to use google docs and google hangouts. It would be really nice to at least have the data in a free software/free culture

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War Mapping

2013-02-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 2/22/13 1:19 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: As for using ref, that changes the nature of that tag. Now we use ref to give the same identification to multiple pieces of a way, not to give different identities to pieces of a way. I think it might be better to include the number of each

[Talk-us] Civil War Mapping

2013-02-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
i sent this out earlier today on conventional social networks, but i know a lot of you probably don't participate in them... a year or so backSteve Coast https://www.facebook.com/SteveCoast?group_id=171170822943323called for some Civil War related mapping. i'm not sure how much has really

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War Mapping

2013-02-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 2/21/13 7:49 PM, Adam Schreiber wrote: Richard, I hope you enjoy the area. I've already done a bit of mapping at the Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania battlefields. i look forward to it. is there any particular mapping task i should look for at Spotsylvania? richard

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 2/10/13 8:56 AM, Michal Migurski wrote: I don't agree. NE2’s edits, most of all the route relations, are enormously valuable to OSM in the US. I'm not aware of any precedent for banning a user like this, and I'm not eager to see one set. i'm with mike. while i, like many, have butted heads

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Per discussione Richard Welty
NE2 asked me to share this diary entry with the list: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/NE2/diary/18600 richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Changeset 14828923 review

2013-02-09 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 2/9/13 2:39 PM, the Old Topo Depot wrote: All, I'm asking for additional eyes on http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14828923 as well as the edits of http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Themegamaster9000/edits in general. The specific changeset contains material of which I am

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-12 Per discussione Richard Welty
this should also go to the tagging list. On 1/12/13 9:08 AM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: (this is a follow-up post to my original at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-January/010086.html and the responses thereto) Thanks for the input on this topic earlier this month.

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone ever talked about adding more Land Ownership data to OSM?

2013-01-09 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/9/13 8:30 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: Around here, for municipal boundaries to cut diagonally through residential lots isn't uncommon. I once lived in a house where the front yard was in one township and the back yard in another. Two separate tax bills (although the second one was cheap because

Re: [Talk-us] [OT] Anyone ever talked about adding more Land Ownership data to OSM?

2013-01-09 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/9/13 11:27 AM, Andrew Guertin wrote: On 01/07/2013 10:45 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 1/7/13 10:37 PM, the Old Topo Depot wrote: We do have an issue with US state and county borders, as some are missing, incorrect, incomplete or incorrectly tagged. Perhaps we can organize a cleanse

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone ever talked about adding more Land Ownership data to OSM?

2013-01-07 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/7/13 10:37 PM, the Old Topo Depot wrote: We do have an issue with US state and county borders, as some are missing, incorrect, incomplete or incorrectly tagged. Perhaps we can organize a cleanse the state and county borders project to improve the data quality and currentness. i would

Re: [Talk-us] identifying TIGER deserts

2013-01-04 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/4/13 1:31 PM, Michal Migurski wrote: Interesting—how would you characterize bad roads? One characteristic of crappy TIGER data is road wiggliness, is that what you mean? the tiger 2010/11/12 data is much better for many of the bad tiger areas. it'd be a bit of work to do a comparison of

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/1/13 7:32 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I am interested in what tagging you would suggest to indicate that a stretch of road has been adopted as part of an Adopt-a-Highway program. unrelated to the source amenity tagging discussion... i think that maybe adapt-a-highway is probably an

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/2/13 1:20 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: Is there a difference between deprecated and now used less frequently? Deprecated sounds pretty official, especially in our unofficious (word?) OSM society. in my experience, deprecated is a pretty official declaration that something shouldn't be

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/2/13 2:45 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: Exactly. Where are these official declarations posted inside OSM? For example, Serge indicated source=* has been deprecated. Where is this (should this be) recorded? normally you'd indicate deprecation on the page for the tag itself. i'm not sure we have

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/2/13 10:49 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 1/1/13 7:32 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I am interested in what tagging you would suggest to indicate that a stretch of road has been adopted as part of an Adopt-a-Highway program. unrelated to the source amenity tagging discussion... i

[Talk-us] NC Mappers near Charlotte, please contact me off list

2013-01-01 Per discussione Richard Welty
i have observed some things along I 85 north of Charlotte that could use some attention from a local mapper. please contact me off list if you are in a position to go look at some stuff and i'll give you all the details. thanks, richard ___

Re: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2013-01-01 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 1/1/13 6:52 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: Zip code areas and voting districts seem to me to be be functionally equivalent to CPDs in that they are arbitrary geographic distinctions determined by agencies outside of local governments or administrations. Are they given a boundary=administrative? zip

Re: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2012-12-31 Per discussione Richard Welty
funny you should bring this up, i've been pondering CDPs a bit lately and have come to very different conclusions from yours. On 12/31/12 3:30 PM, stevea wrote: I have been pondering the use of the admin_level key in the USA, and have come to the realization that while values 2, 4, 6 and 8

Re: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2012-12-31 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/31/12 5:12 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: I'd argue that not all governmental boundaries need to be tagged as boundary=administrative. In Ohio, we've started to retag CDP boundaries with boundary=census and place=locality but without admin_level. [1][2] They still show up in Nominatim as

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/31/12 9:38 PM, Steve Coast wrote: On Dec 31, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Steve Coast writes: Waze, last time I looked, was 5 times larger than OSM. Today, probably 10. Nobody ever tells me about Waze. You live in upstate New York, dude. :-) beyond upstate.

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-27 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/27/12 2:46 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: This is about shawnee county, not riley. I am working on getting a written confirmation, until then I will not import any more data, just continue to clean up what I have imported. thank you. we really do need to take this much care whenever we bring in

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing

2012-12-23 Per discussione Richard Welty
if fire trucks are permitted, then use access=no emergency=yes On 12/23/12 11:20 AM, nicholas ingalls wrote: Tagging with access:no usually does the trick :) Just see here for a list of access tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access cheers, ingalls On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] Texas business route letter subscripts, or how I learned to stop arguing and ignore a certain user

2012-12-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/22/12 10:39 PM, James Mast wrote: I personally think that the letter shouldn't be stored in the ref tags on the ways as they could be considered as an internal designation that just happens to make it onto the route shields. Maybe the letters could be added as an additional tag like

Re: [Talk-us] Imports - an attempt to explain

2012-12-20 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/20/12 4:21 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: That's why I often react strongly if I encounter people who don't seem to share this deeper why do you do all this, people who, at least superficially, seem to be concerned only with getting a nice map quickly and who couldn't care less about how the

Re: [Talk-us] Using MapRoulette for imports

2012-12-18 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/18/12 9:51 PM, Brian DeRocher wrote: Food for thought... Imagine we performed a large data import into a side table, then used MapRoulette to overlay that data on OSM, allow users to review additions, and import features one at a time. Would that be better? this could work for some

Re: [Talk-us] Imports and Mass Edits in the US

2012-12-17 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/17/12 9:42 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: When I helped create the US Chapter several years ago, this was one of the main reasons I thought it should exist, but I think there's finally the amount of data and interest to justify it. What do folks think? i think it's a necessary step, thanks

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour

2012-12-10 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/10/12 7:06 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 12/10/12 6:48 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Who is available to initiate and moderate this tonight? All it takes is 1) start a hangout 2) post link on google+ event and 3) be there for the duration. i'll take a crack at it. although considering how

[Talk-us] mappy hour

2012-12-10 Per discussione Richard Welty
i'm trying to relaunch the hangout, but having some network problems reaching google plus. if someone else wants to start this thing, feel free. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Per discussione Richard Welty
i'm looking at a need to do some analysis estimation based on road nets extracted from OSM; the goal is to be able to estimate things like time to complete ground surveys (e.g., TIGER review and collection of hydrant locations.) are there any libraries or tools kicking around that folks might

Re: [Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/5/12 10:04 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 12/05/2012 03:55 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'm looking at a need to do some analysis estimation based on road nets extracted from OSM; the goal is to be able to estimate things like time to complete ground surveys (e.g., TIGER review

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/29/12 1:03 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: The data are copyrighted and Arlington County owns all rights to the data and allows use ...as an acknowledged source to produce maps or analysis but you may not redistribute, resell, or copy the data (except for back-up purposes). the redistribute

[Talk-us] Dual Carriageway?

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
Found in Albany this morning: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nfgusedautoparts/8229572497/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Dual Carriageway?

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/29/12 1:48 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Yes, in that the carriageways are effectively separated. But in a very tortured sort of way. from looking at bing imagery, it looks like they tore out a badly deteriorated section between the two carriageways. richard

Re: [Talk-us] First vs 1st

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/29/12 12:30 PM, Brian Quinion wrote: If you mapped is as above it would work in nominatim since both name and short_name are supported. Translation of 'Street' = 'St' is supported anyway but 'First' = '1st' isn't because that would require a large multilingual number database to resolve

Re: [Talk-us] Dual Carriageway?

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/29/12 2:18 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote: It looks like there were a few points where there were garden dividers, but that changed after a repaving. From looking around on OSM, it doesn't seem like people are marking roads with a garden in the middle of the road as a dual carriageway, maybe they

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/29/12 5:26 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'm also very very doubtful about the value of importing city, state and (!) country: if we don't have polygons for all of those already, then we really should. Importing n billion nodes into the States which all say hey, this is in the States will

Re: [Talk-us] First vs 1st

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/29/12 11:07 PM, Brian Quinion wrote: I'm very happy for it to be fixed as you suggest, adding code to the geocoders is definitely preferable, I just don't have the bandwidth to get it done myself at the second. Also just wanted to make clear that any solution like this needs to handle

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/29/12 11:28 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday, November 29, 2012, Mike N wrote: It would be useful to navigate to address points - properly placed, they will lead to the building of interest or driveway. Centroids on large parcels will frequently misdirect to a side street with no

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/29/12 11:36 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Thursday, November 29, 2012, Mike N wrote: So map the driveways and buildings, too. I mean, how core are we? My hope is that we can get the best address points added to OSM

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-28 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/28/12 6:35 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Is anyone else interested in this? I could use some help gathering volunteers to the cause. i am working on leveraging things so that i can import enhanced 911 address data from NYS into OSM. this will probably happen as part of my emergency response GPS

[Talk-us] First vs 1st

2012-11-27 Per discussione Richard Welty
the rule we frequently follow is to use the format of the name on the sign as the guideline for what to put in the name tag for a way. there's a neighborhood in Rotterdam, NY where the signs for the side streets along the main drag (Hamburg Street) are spelled out (e.g., Fourth Street) but the

Re: [Talk-us] fixing street names by hand

2012-11-27 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/27/12 12:45 PM, Charlie Smothers wrote: I've been watching all the discussion about fixing street names, direction prefixes, robots, etc. and want to make sure my efforts don't get wasted. I have made lots of changes around Sacramento CA the bot we're talking about would only be run on

Re: [Talk-us] Next Mappy Hour

2012-11-27 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/27/12 12:24 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: We had our first virtual mappy hour two weeks or so ago, and it was fun so let's do another. I scheduled it for next Monday 5:30 PST / 8:30 EST. i'd just like to say that the first one of these was fun, and i'm sorry that i'm going to miss this

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER expansion bot

2012-11-27 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/27/12 10:10 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Time for concrete examples and tests. I just ran a test file through the bot. It had a single way in it with the following tags: highway=residential name=Main St SW tiger:name_base=Main tiger:name_type=St tiger:name_direction_suffix=SW This resulted in

Re: [Talk-us] street name expansion thoughts

2012-11-25 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/25/12 8:31 PM, Mike N wrote: One complication is hand-entered street data, which may result in an abbreviation in addr:street with no TIGER ancestor to trace back for finding the base name and type for a safe machine expansion. my normal reaction would be that an expansion run

[Talk-us] Operation Cowboy in the press

2012-11-23 Per discussione Richard Welty
thanks to Martijn for coming up with this and organizing it. http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/openstreetmaps-operation-cowboy-marathon-mapping-session-underway.php ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] emergency access, no u-turns on interstates other motorways

2012-11-22 Per discussione Richard Welty
this has been on tagging for the last two days, i'm looking for comment from a broader audience. take your best shots... the context is that i'm working on an emergency services project (some of you may have seen my blog post here:

Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
ok, thanks, carl. this helps. i'm working on an emergency services related project right now and it's helpful to learn about these things. the next question is this. supposing we implement Steven's proposal, how does this help in emergency services mapping projects, that is, what does this

Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/21/12 5:48 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 21.11.2012 22:51, Apollinaris Schöll wrote: relations seem to be a elegant solution for people with technology background. And all your arguments are good ones BUT they have quite some disadvantages. Too many non techies have problems to get

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/21/12 6:20 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Hello all, I don't know a lot about this, but apparently there is a current effort in the U.S. to improve the addressing in rural areas so emergency responders can locate addresses more easily. It might be advantageous to look at their

Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-21 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/21/12 4:16 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Second, Richard, please see Carl's post which talks about the proposal from the standpoint of emergency services. Carl could likely say what the pros cons are of splitting the tags vs loading everything in the addr:street tag. i did read Carl's post.

Re: [Talk-us] Newly tweaked TIGER road names tiles

2012-11-19 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/19/12 10:41 AM, Toby Murray wrote: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EXPANDING NAMES ALREADY IN OSM! Please read my email again. All I did was update the TIGER 2012 road name tiles. I am not touching OSM data at all! But please do take a look at the road name tiles in the areas you have

Re: [Talk-us] Ghost suburbs

2012-11-17 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/17/12 6:56 AM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Hello, While doing the Maproulette, I came upon a large area east of El Paso (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=31.7234lon=-106.1106zoom=13) with hundreds of neatly laid-out roads tagged residential that are only weathered tracks.

Re: [Talk-us] Ghost suburbs

2012-11-17 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/17/12 9:34 AM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: highway=track is fine if the road is open to the public, but quite often incomplete subdivisions are not. and that's why we have access=private or access=no ___ Talk-us mailing list

[Talk-us] SOTM US 2012: video volunteers, please contact me + video from the conference starting to go up online

2012-11-14 Per discussione Richard Welty
Martijn and i are starting to pull together the video from SOTM US to prepare it to be put online. i know that a number of the volunteers did backup video with their cell phones. could all of those who did so please drop me a note? a lot of the video from the Bloggie cameras is fairly usable,

Re: [Talk-us] What's the Google event page for Mappy Hour?

2012-11-12 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/12/12 7:54 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Hey folks, I understand the link to Mappy Hour will be posted on the Google event page, but what is the link to the Google event page? Thanks. try this: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cba7vmqc6g9gspoedbr0lbml2s4

Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)

2012-11-01 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 11/1/12 12:01 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: If, for example, the US community would express a clear preference for local mappers having their way in tagging, then a tagging bully would clearly and visibly operate outside of the rules of accepted behaviour, and all his explanations about why

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2012-10-29

2012-10-30 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 10/30/12 5:23 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: Is everybody still OK with receiving these updates on this list? They seem to have gotten more frequent lately (Thanks Lambertus)! I could easily limit the notifications to only be every month or two weeks or something. i think it's fine the way it is,

Re: [Talk-us] MapRoulette new challenge: connectivity

2012-10-29 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 10/29/12 10:25 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Martijn van Exel writes: In general, I would venture to say unedited TIGER can almost certainly be improved using Bing imagery anywhere in the US. M, no, there are some counties in NY which were in excellent condition, and which haven't needed

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations (attn: Richard Weait, etc.)

2012-10-27 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 10/27/12 2:46 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: If the former, then it matters if it's Business-80 or 80-Business. If the latter, then as long as we preserve the modifier, then we're good. at this point, i think i've seen enough to know that what goes on the signs can be a little bit unpredictable. on

Re: [Talk-us] Local Chapters Discussion

2012-10-25 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 10/25/12 2:38 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: For specific reasons why OSM-US should care, a couple concrete things off the top of my head are trademarks and promotion. OSM Foundation holds the trademarks, like OpenStreetMap and the logo. The promotion space for events on the OSM.org website (like

Re: [Talk-us] Night of the Living Maps

2012-10-25 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 10/25/12 9:14 PM, Mike N wrote: On 10/25/2012 12:34 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: We're talking about promoting a US project like fixing TIGER deserts / Ghost towns[1] for the next NOTLM (date to be set). Good idea? I would say that this is a good idea. If a curious person (non-OSM

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