Re: [Talk-pe] Charla OSM en Huacho

[andrzej zaborowski]

Gracias Johnattan.

Para resumir un poco, a falta de coneccion internet en el aula solo
fue una presentiacion.  En teoria se habia publicado el programa de la
jornada de talleres pero creo que solamente en la red interna porque
no lo encontre.  El programa se ha seguido de una manera caotica, asi
que mejor asi ;)  Me informan que el 8 de junio, el Dia del Ingeniero,
es un evento importante en esta universidad y sera una oportunidad
para dar a conocer OSM mas, querran invitar a algun ponente.

Saludos

2015-12-15 14:36 GMT-05:00 Johnattan Rupire :
> Hola Andrzej,
> qué bien la reunión, espero que alguien haya podido participar! hay algún
> link donde hay más info? al menos para linkearla al blog...
> Saludos y bienvenido a Perú!!
>
> El 14/12/15 a las 01:20, andrzej zaborowski escribió:
>>
>> Hola a todos,
>>
>> Este martes 15 mas o menos a la 1 de la tarde (queda por confirmar la
>> hora) haremos un pequeño taller de mapeo en OpenStreetMap en el curso
>> de una actividad de tres dias que llaman Event System en la
>> Universidad Nacional en Huacho.  Si hay algun mapero interesado en
>> asistir al taller para ayudar con su experiencia, les animo.
>>
>> Estoy en Peru de viaje y la idea del taller ha salido porque iba a
>> estar en es evento tambien por otros motivos.  He mapeado en Peru
>> antes pero no es mucho y no conozco a la comunidad OSM de aqui.
>>
>> Saludos
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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Bob Hawkins]

Paul, Jon and Robert
I thank you all for your very prompt and constructive replies.  I have 
downloaded the AONB boundaries that Jon pointed me to, in both .tab and .shp 
format (I am amazed always at what valuable information to hand people have and 
the wonderful benefit of forums and mailing lists!).  The boundaries seem to be 
just what I was looking for.  I should make clear: my use of The Chilterns AONB 
boundary is for my purpose only to assist the delineation of my area of 
interest.
Bob

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Re: [Talk-it] La nostra wiki, come è e come dovrebbe essere

[Paolo Monegato]

Il 15/12/2015 11:53, Aury88 ha scritto:

Paolo Monegato wrote

Tra l'altro lì si potrebbe anche mettere quel che vien fuori dai
dibattiti in ML, tipo quando si definisce di taggare una cosa in un dato
modo.

dove intendi? nella discussione della pagina tag?


Nel "glossario / How to map a". Ogni volta che si giunge ad un accordo 
sarebbe da aggiornare lì.



Se non ho capito male vorresti in pratica che ci fosse una pagina
generale che richiama contenuti di altre pagine... forse si potrebbe
fare con dei cassetti a scomparsa che includano le pagine come fossero
dei template (così una volta che si aggiorna la "sottopagina"
automaticamente si aggiorna anche la superiore)...
Servirebbe però un esempio pratico per capire bene.

  si diciamo di si! penso che prima servirebbe il template o qualcosa del
genere che permetta questa cosa...non l'ho vista mai applicata purtroppo,
quindi non credo esista proprio la possibilità di farlo, almeno al momento
attuale. ripeto posso creare penso una sorta di mockup cioè una cosa che si
presenta simile ma che non è realizzata usando il "motore" della cosa
desiderata, ma facendo tutto a mano.


Magari appena riesco provo a fare un esempio su una sandbox...


Le sottopagine sono delle pagine normali che si trovano "sotto" un altra
pagina.
Esempio: WikiProject Italy/Ciclovie è una sotto pagina di WikiProject
Italy (che invece è una pagina che si trova nel namespace principale:

ok chiaro. il come è strutturato il link con sottopagine e namespace non è
importante di per se, l'importante è la possibilità di seguire il percorso
logico da una pagina all'altra secondo me. l'uso di namespace può essere
utile per andare direttamente a delle (macro)categorie principali ma poi la
struttura come sottopagina per gli elementi minori potrebbe risultare
limitante per quanto riguarda quegli elementi presenti in più ambiti e che
quindi, con una struttura basata sulle sottopagine, richiederebbero il
ricreare più volte lo stesso contenuto per sottopagine differenti (con il
rischio di disallineamento tra le varie pagine trattanti lo stesso
oggetto)..


No, perché ti basta richiamare le stesse pagine/sottopagine ovunque ti 
serva. Ma per farti capire come intendo devo farti un esempio sul wiki...


ciao
Paolo M

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Francesco Pelullo]

Bravo Martin, bel lavoro come sempre!

Ciao
/niubii/


Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 19:09, Simone F.  ha scritto:

> Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 15:49, Marcello  ha scritto:
>
>>
>> Gran bel lavoro!
>>
>> Grazie Martin
>>
>
> + 1
>
>
> Ciao,
> Simone F.
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Re: [Talk-it] Curiosità. Tutte le strade che portano a Roma

[Daniele Forsi]

Il 16 dicembre 2015 19:12, Simone F.  ha scritto:

> http://www.repubblica.it/viaggi/2015/12/16/foto/tutte_le_strade_che_portano_a_roma_dall_europa_sono_500mila-129591640/

è l'immagine della settimana, dopo 2 settimane con immagini relative
all'italia, questa settimana si rammenta Roma :-)
non so perché il wiki ci mette tantissimo a aggiornare i template. ho
tradotto la descrizione stamani, ma appare ancora in inglese:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Featured_images

P.S. se qualcuno vuole aiutare con le traduzioni, ci sono circa 10
arretrati, da metà agosto a fine ottobre
-- 
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Re: [Talk-de] Karten für Flüchtlinge - Sprache Legende Kartenstyle

[Stefan Kaufmann]

Am 2015-12-16 um 17:41 schrieb Markus:


Kurzfristig: ja

Die nachhaltige Lösung heisst *Immersion*.

Dadurch lernt man nicht nur die Sprache, sondern durch den Kontakt mit
Einheimischen auch noch gleich kulturspezifische Umgangsformen und
andere Kulturmerkmale.
Und man knüpft Kontakte, und manchmal gewinnt man sogar Freunde :-)

Ich fände sinnvoll, wenn wir sprach-wissenschaftliche Erkenntnisse auch
für unsere Karten entsprechend nutzen.


Wollen wir diese Entscheidung nicht der jeweiligen Sachlage vor Ort 
ueberlassen? Z.B. vor dem Hintergrund der Entscheidung zwischen 
Erstaufnahmelager und mittelfristiger Unterkunft?


regards,
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Navteq (esri .map) to osrm problems

[Patrick Niklaus]

From the output I would guess the data is not tagged correctly. There
are ways but they don't adhere the OSM tagging conventions. In general
this is not an easy task and you can expect to spend multiple
man-months on this project. There is no easy way to "convert". You
need to figure out the exact features you want to map and how to
translate that into something that looks like OSM. In general I would
question your choice of using NAVTEQ data instead of OSM to begin
with. For the US both will be mostly based on TIGER anyway.

You can try to use this project as base:

https://github.com/knowname/morituri

I know of several pipelines that do exactly this, but all proprietary
because of licensing issues (sometimes even the specification is
confidential).

Good luck,
Patrick

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Alan Grover  wrote:
> (Rather than start with a plea for help, I'd _really_ thank you for osrm.)
>
> I'm using osrm for time/distance matrices, and geometry (and
> turn-by-turn in the near future). I've been running it with the
> berlin-latest data from openstreetmap for testing/development. That's
> been working well, and impressively.
>
> Of course, I need to use Navteq U.S. and Canada for production. But, I
> can't figure out how to get the data into osrm (yea, I know this will
> take a gazillion cpu cycles, and a lot of ram to do the conversion.)
>
> The first question is: is this too much of a task for someone (me) who
> is not a gis expert? Do you know who I can hire to help me with this.
>
> The second question is: can you help me figure out the steps to get
> navteq data into osrm?
>
> I have only a spotty understanding of the data/concepts for esri & osrm,
> so I can't figure out what is wrong:
>
> 1. The navteq data was being used in esri. Our gis specialist (doesn't
> know openstreetmap) exported it in ".map" format. Here's the cut-down
> files I start with (just Delaware):
>
> ls -l map-data/Delaware.map
> -rw-rw 1 me me 36617162 Jan 19  2015 Streets.DAT
> -rw-rw 1 me me   349536 Jan 19  2015 Streets.ID
> -rw-rw 1 me me 21741056 Jan 19  2015 Streets.IND
> -rw-rw 1 me me  7585280 Jan 19  2015 Streets.MAP
> -rw-rw 1 me me 3086 Jan 19  2015 Streets.TAB
> -rw-rw 1 me me 10654217 Jan 19  2015 Zlevels.DAT
> -rw-rw 1 me me  1469516 Jan 19  2015 Zlevels.ID
> -rw-rw 1 me me  9404416 Jan 19  2015 Zlevels.IND
> -rw-rw 1 me me  6843904 Jan 19  2015 Zlevels.MAP
> -rw-rw 1 me me  305 Jan 19  2015 Zlevels.TAB
>
> 2. I choose ogr2osm.py (https://github.com/pnorman/ogr2osm.git) to do
> the conversion to osm. I choose that because it seemed to be relatively
> up-to-date, and one-step (compared to -> gml -> osm). Maybe I should
> have used a different process?
>
> python map-data/ogr2osm.py -d -o map-data/Delaware.map.osm/Delaware.osm
> map-data/Delaware.map/
>
> running with lxml.etree
> Preparing to convert 'map-data/Delaware.map/' to
> 'map-data/Delaware.map.osm/Delaware.osm'.
> Will try to detect projection from source metadata, or fall back to
> EPSG:4326
> Using default translations
> Using default filterLayer
> Using default filterFeature
> Using default filterTags
> Using default filterFeaturePost
> Using default preOutputTransform
> Parsing data
> Detected projection metadata:
> GEOGCS["unnamed",
> DATUM["WGS_1984",
> SPHEROID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563],
> TOWGS84[0,0,0,0,0,0,0]],
> PRIMEM["Greenwich",0],
> UNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]]
> Detected projection metadata:
> GEOGCS["unnamed",
> DATUM["WGS_1984",
> SPHEROID["WGS 84",6378137,298.257223563],
> TOWGS84[0,0,0,0,0,0,0]],
> PRIMEM["Greenwich",0],
> UNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433]]
> Merging points
> Making list
> Checking list
> Merging duplicate points in ways
> Outputting XML
>
> -rw-rw 1 me me 325449558 Dec 16 12:09 Delaware.osm
>
> 3. It seems like osrm-extract will accept .osm files, so I used that.
>
> The profile.lua is osrm-backend/profiles/car.lua.
>
> osrm-backend is https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend.git,
> branch develop
> last commit: Date:   Fri Nov 20 19:52:22 2015 +0100
> compiled on ubuntu 14.04 as per instructions.
> (nb, the osrm stuff worked fine "extracting" and "preparing" the
> berlin-latest data).
>
> I was using the develop branch because it seemed to have more recent
> fixes. Perhaps I should be on master for stability? (yes, this will be
> used for production processes, periodically).
>
> So, the obvious problem happens here:
>
> osrm-extract map-data/Delaware.map.osm/Delaware.osm
>
> [info] Input file: Delaware.osm
> [info] Profile: profile.lua
> [info] Threads: 4
> [info] Using script profile.lua
> [STXXL-MSG] STXXL v1.3.1 (release)
> [STXXL-ERRMSG] Warning: no config file found.
> [STXXL-ERRMSG] Using default disk configuration.
> [STXXL-MSG] 1 disks are allocated, total space: 1000 MiB
> [info] Parsing in progress..
> [info] input file generated 

Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[deltredicialessan...@libero.it]

Molto bello e utile, grazie mille!

Ciao,
Alecs


Messaggio originale

Da: dieterdre...@gmail.com

Data: 16/12/2015 9.38

A: "openstreetmap list - italiano"

Ogg: Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia




2015-11-23 12:02 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
2015-11-23 11:18 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi :
giusto per ricordarti che abbiamo estratti regionali qui [0] [1] ;-)



[0] http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/italia_osm.html

(aggiornati giornalmente)

Segnalo che http://taginfo.openstreetmap.it è andato online (diciamo si tratta 
di una versione beta). Ci sono 20 istanze di taginfo, una per regione, ma non 
c'è una versione dell'Italia completa, perché il nostro server non ce la fa 
(RAM insufficiente). Le regioni sono come da 
http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/italia_osm.html quindi leggermente 
più grandi delle regioni politiche (potete notarlo talvolta sulle mappe 
create). Il server si dovrebbe aggiornare giornalmente, in alto a destra potete 
vedere la data dell'attuale estratto.

Lo considero beta perché manca un pezzo di UI importante (un selettore per 
cambiare la regione / pulldown). Se qualcuno di voi si intende di 
jquery/javascript (e forse ma non necessariamente di ruby) e ha tempo e voglia 
di aiutare, mi contattasse per favore, ho già in grosso modo impostato il form, 
ma non so come modificare la url e come integrarlo in maniera migliore nel 
codice (il codice di Jochen è abbastanza complesso).

Buon divertimento,
Martin





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Re: [Talk-it] Tutto Città - mappa edificato

[deltredicialessan...@libero.it]

Ora mi sembra che li hanno tolti, in alcune zone ci sono edifici, ma non sono 
di OSM. Aspettiamo che tornino :)

Ciao,
Alecs


>Messaggio originale
>Da: sim...@cortesi.com
>Data: 06/12/2015 19.06
>A: "openstreetmap list - italiano", "Alessandro 
Palmas"
>Ogg: Re: [Talk-it] Tutto Città - mappa edificato

>Ciao,
>aggiungo qualche dettaglio a queste parole "sibilline" di Alessandro.
>
>Ieri sera mi sono sentito con uno dei team leader di Seat (ero già in
>contatto), il quale mi ha spiegato perchè questo fosse successo
>proprio oggi. Speravo uscissero in maniera *migliore*. Gli ho chiesto
>di scrivere qualcosa per la lista OpenStreetMap.
>
>Eccolo di seguito:
>
>"Seat sta cercando di capire, analizzando i dati OSM, la fattibilità
>di poterli utilizzare in futuro su un proprio prodotto Tuttocittà.
>Per errore, a seguito dell'aggiornamento dei dati "Q4 HERE" abbiamo
>pubblicato sul sito Tuttocitta i building OSM, cosa di cui ci
>scusiamo. Stiamo già lavorando per eliminarli entro la settimana
>prossima."
>
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[Talk-dk] Nyt FVST restaurant værktøj

[Niels Elgaard Larsen]

http://digitalfrihed.dk/restaurants/uni.html

beskrevet lidt på:
http://digitalfrihed.dk/restaurants/


Det viser de restauranter, cafeer og fastfoodsteder som er i OSM og som
matcher FVST madsteder nogenlunde på navn og position, men som ikke har
et fvst:navnelbnr tag.

Det angiver for hvert sted både vores OSM navn og det navn FVST bruger.
Der tegnes en rød streg mellem den position, som OSM bruger den som
FVST bruger. OSM positionen er angivet med en blå cirkel.
Der er et JOSM Remote Control link, som tilføjer FVST's navnelbnr til
OSM-knuden.

Men det er meget godt lige at checke om OSM navne og postioner er
rigtige. Det er jo nemt at rette når JOSM allerede har hente OSM-knuden.

For det meste ser det ud til, at vores positioner er mere
præcise end FVST's

Men navnene kan nogen gange rettes lidt. Det er mest noget med små og
store bogstaver, bindestreger, apostroffer og den slags.

Lige nu er der kun 638 matchede madsteder uden et FVST:navnelbnr tag, så
det er en ret overkommelig opgave.

Når de 638 steder har fået et navnelbnr, kan vi gå den anden vej. Dvs
se på madsteder, som stadig ikke har et navnelbnr. Det er så enten
fordi:

1. OSM-navnet matcher ikke FVST-navnet. Så kan vi manuelt tilføje
fvst:navnelbnr tagget.

2. Madsteder eksisterer ikke mere, og skal slettes fra OSM.

3. Madstedet er nyt og har ikke fået sit første kontrolbesøg endnu.

4. Madstedet har ikke et selvstændigt navnelbnr. Der fx nogen hoteller
som har eet fvst:navnelbnr, men flere restauranter, cafeer og barer.
Måske har de kun et køkken, men hvis de har forskellige menukort
åbningstider og priser, skal de være forskellige knuder i OSM.
Indtil nu er fvst:navnelbnr uniks i OSM. Men vi kunne bruge samme
nummer på flere madsteder. Eller vi kunne bruge en relation til at
knytte steder med samme navnelbnr sammen.

5. Der andre fejl i FVST. Fx er det noget underligt med Gram slot. Jeg
har skrevet til FVST, men ikke fået svar.

-- 
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Re: [Talk-it] OSMAnd+ in offerta su G play

[Leonardo Frassetto]

Aggiornamenti illimitati per le mappe e wikipedia offline.
Il 16/dic/2015 21:31, "Fabrizio"  ha scritto:

> Domanda niubba: cos'ha in più la versione+ di quella free?
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Re: [Talk-it] OSMAnd+ in offerta su G play

[Federico Cortese]

2015-12-16 21:30 GMT+01:00 Fabrizio :
> Domanda niubba: cos'ha in più la versione+ di quella free?
>
La possibilità di download illimitati, mentre la versione free
permette solo 7 download.
Purtroppo manca comunque la possibilità di attivare i live-update,
funzione disponibile solo con la nightly :(

Ciao
Federico

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Lorenzo Perone]

Ciao,
davvero interessante, credo mi sarà utile.
La mappa generata ha però un aspetto curioso, la trovate qui

.
Ciao.
l.

Lorenzo Perone
twitter: @lorenzo_perone 
photoblog: http://immagini.me
opendata: http://go.shr.lc/1FhXkD1
website: http://blog.spaziogis.it
GEO+ geomatica in Italia *http://bit.ly/GEOplus *

Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 19:20, Francesco Pelullo 
ha scritto:

> Bravo Martin, bel lavoro come sempre!
>
> Ciao
> /niubii/
>
>
> Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 19:09, Simone F.  ha
> scritto:
>
>> Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 15:49, Marcello  ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>>
>>> Gran bel lavoro!
>>>
>>> Grazie Martin
>>>
>>
>> + 1
>>
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Simone F.
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Re: [Talk-it] OSMAnd+ in offerta su G play

[Fabrizio]

Domanda niubba: cos'ha in più la versione+ di quella free?
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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On 16 December 2015 at 15:36, Bob Hawkins  wrote:
>
> I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and love 
> of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project is to 
> improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and 
> Chiltern Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on 
> Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.  Their 
> local authorities make available downloads of their Public Rights of Way and 
> I have Ordnance Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.  It would be 
> most useful to have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.  I have 
> searched the internet and cannot find such a file to download.  I 
> communicated with Lucy Murfett, Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation 
> Board and received this reply:

I think GIS data for AONB boundaries can be obtained from
http://www.gis.naturalengland.org.uk/ . However, the licence for the
data appears to be based on an old version of the Open Government
Licence (OGL), with an OS-OpenData-Licence style variation insisting
on stronger downstream attribution that OSM can guarantee. IMO this
means we can't use those datasets in OSM at the moment.

However, the reason Natural England have used that licence is almost
certainly because of requirements placed on them by Ordnance Survey.
Ordnance Survey have recently changed for using a customised version
of the OGL to using the OGL version 3.0 un-modified. Thus Natural
England should be able to do the same, at which point we'd be able to
make use of their data sets.

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-it] [Mappatura] Limiti di velocità non segnalati (ma applicati)

[Andrea Albani]

Hai ragione. Mio errore.
Cmq nei default per l'Italia è riportata la notazione che ho indicato io.
Forse è il caso di correggerla?
Il 16/Dic/2015 19:09, "Alberto Nogaro"  ha scritto:

> Per il limite condizonale dovrebbe essere qualcosa del tipo:
>
>
>
> maxspeed:conditional = 110 @ wet
>
> maxspeed:conditional = 50 @ fog
>
>
>
> (In realtà wet sembra dire più strada bagnata, forse sarebbe meglio rain).
>
> Poiché la riduzione di velocità in caso di pioggia è generale, e’ stata
> inserita anche nella relazione dei default (
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1124248). Il limite dei 50 in caso
> di nebbia invece andrebbe inserito solo dove c’è il segnale.
>
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Alberto
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrea Albani [mailto:aob...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* mercoledì 16 dicembre 2015 16:29
> *To:* openstreetmap list - italiano 
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-it] [Mappatura] Limiti di velocità non segnalati (ma
> applicati)
>
>
>
> Per il codice della strada un centro abitato è una cosa ben definita (vedi
> [1] art. 3 punto 8) ed è essenzialmente identificato dagli appositi
> cartelli.
>
> Quindi se questi non ci sono io non metterei il limite a 50.
>
> Per il limite variabile in funzione del tempo atmosferico penso che
> maxspeed:wet o maxspeed:fog come documentato in [2] possa andare bene
> (magari fai un check su taginfo)
>
>
> [1] http://www.altalex.com/documents/news/2014/02/27/disposizioni-generali
> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions
>
>
>
> Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 16:15, Max1234Ita  ha
> scritto:
>
> Che si usi il tag /maxspeed=xx/ penso che lo sappiamo quasi tutti... :)
>
> Ma secondo voi come si fa per mappare quelle strade che attravesano"e
> solite
> 4-5 case lungo la strada provinciale", dove non ci sono cartelli di sorta
> ma
> s'intende che il limite è di 50 perchè prescritto dal Codice della Strada
> nel caso di attraversamento di centro abitato?
>
> Metto maxspeed=50... e poi?  source:maxspeed=Codice della Strada?
> Oppure non si mette nulla in quanto non ci sono cartelli?
>
> Altro caso che si applica ad esempio alle Autostrade: come si fa a dire
> "110
> in caso di precipitazioni intense, 50 in caso di nebbia"? E' possibile?
>
> Ciao e grazie,
> Max
>
>
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[Talk-it] Curiosità. Tutte le strade che portano a Roma

[Simone F.]

Da La Repubblica:
"... Grazie a potenti software di calcolo come Grasshopher, i ricercatori
hanno scandagliato tutto il continente per individuare le strade più
frequentate da centinaia di migliaia di punti di partenza. Per farlo hanno
utilizzato i dati di Open Street Map..."


http://www.repubblica.it/viaggi/2015/12/16/foto/tutte_le_strade_che_portano_a_roma_dall_europa_sono_500mila-129591640/


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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

[Marián Kyral]

Asi trochu dal od centra, nicméně jsme tu dva a máme tu ještě jedno volné místo 
;-) 

Marián


 Původní zpráva 
Odesílatel: "Marián Kyral" 
Odesláno: 16. prosince 2015 15:49:49 SEČ
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

OK,
takže 18:00 plus mínus autobus Pivovar Lužiny.

Marián


-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Marián Kyral 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 16. 12. 2015 13:53:17
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"
Neutíkám, jen to tam náhodou znám ;-)
Lužiny můžou být - je to o dvě zastávky blíž do centra :-D

Marián


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Od: Petr Morávek [Xificurk] 
Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 16. 12. 2015 13:47:56
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"Dne 16.12.2015 v 13:35 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> Tak perén má dnes plně obsazeno, k Dobré myšlence se mi nedaří se dovolat.
> Nějaký jiný tip? Nebo se jen někde sejdeme a zkusíme štěstí? Jsme jen
> čtyři (možná méně).
> 
> Případně, pokud nevadí Stodůlky - restaurace Maják - tam to znám a
> nějaký stůl se tam většinou najde:
> http://www.restaurantmajak.cz
> 
> Marián

Ahoj,

když už utíkáš do těchto částí města, tak přihodím alternativu:
http://www.pivovar-luziny.cz/
Nekuřácké prostory, stůl pro 4 by se takhle v týdnu taky měl snad najít
i bez rezervace.

Petr Morávek aka Xificurk

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre occidentale

[Verhoeven Fr]

 Sinds  ik JOSM gebruik is er al veel verandert, en in iedere versie 
zit er wat nieuw. De tools zijn al verdubbeld.
Waar ik de meeste moeite mee heb is de zoekfunctie, nochtans is die heel 
nuttig.


Sus


Le 16/12/15 16:17, Marc Gemis a écrit :

Volgens mij nota's van de meeting in April van dit jaar [1] was het de
bedoeling een cursus op te stellen op een professionele manier. Men
sprak van 60 opleidingsdagen voor personeel en peters en meters
(gescheiden groepen). Volgens mij was (en is) er niemand binnen de
community die dat soort cursus in elkaar kan boxen en die gedurende de
week kan gaan geven.

Dit is van een heel ander niveau dan eventjes een presentatie van een
half uurtje te doen op een mapping party. En zelfs daar vind je amper
kandidaten voor. Het zijn altijd dezelfde personen die opdraven voor
zulke opdrachten.

Ik zie me natuurlijk graag gecorrigeerd op dit punt.

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Re: [Talk-de] Karten für Flüchtlinge - Sprache Legende Kartenstyle

[Manfred A. Reiter]

Am 16. Dezember 2015 um 17:41 schrieb Markus :

> Hallo Volker,
>
> > zweisprachige oder umschaltbare
>
> Kurzfristig: ja
>
> Die nachhaltige Lösung heisst *Immersion*.
>
> Dadurch lernt man nicht nur die Sprache, sondern durch den Kontakt mit
> Einheimischen auch noch gleich kulturspezifische Umgangsformen und
> andere Kulturmerkmale.
> Und man knüpft Kontakte, und manchmal gewinnt man sogar Freunde :-)
>
> Ich fände sinnvoll, wenn wir sprach-wissenschaftliche Erkenntnisse auch
> für unsere Karten entsprechend nutzen.
>
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_(Sprachwissenschaft_und_Erziehung)
>


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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Jon Burgess]

On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 15:36 +, Bob Hawkins wrote:
> Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a
> digital file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?

There is a download option for the AONB data in this list of files:

http://www.geostore.com/environment-agency/WebStore?xml=environment-agency/xml/ogcDataDownload.xml

I haven't checked the licensing so cannot make any comment about its
suitability for use in OSM.

Jon


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Re: [Talk-it] [Mappatura] Limiti di velocità non segnalati (ma applicati)

[Alberto Nogaro]

Per il limite condizonale dovrebbe essere qualcosa del tipo:

 

maxspeed:conditional = 110 @ wet

maxspeed:conditional = 50 @ fog

 

(In realtà wet sembra dire più strada bagnata, forse sarebbe meglio rain).

Poiché la riduzione di velocità in caso di pioggia è generale, e’ stata 
inserita anche nella relazione dei default 
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1124248). Il limite dei 50 in caso di 
nebbia invece andrebbe inserito solo dove c’è il segnale.

 

Ciao,

Alberto

 

From: Andrea Albani [mailto:aob...@gmail.com] 
Sent: mercoledì 16 dicembre 2015 16:29
To: openstreetmap list - italiano 
Subject: Re: [Talk-it] [Mappatura] Limiti di velocità non segnalati (ma 
applicati)

 

Per il codice della strada un centro abitato è una cosa ben definita (vedi [1] 
art. 3 punto 8) ed è essenzialmente identificato dagli appositi cartelli.

Quindi se questi non ci sono io non metterei il limite a 50.

Per il limite variabile in funzione del tempo atmosferico penso che 
maxspeed:wet o maxspeed:fog come documentato in [2] possa andare bene (magari 
fai un check su taginfo)


[1] http://www.altalex.com/documents/news/2014/02/27/disposizioni-generali
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions

 

Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 16:15, Max1234Ita  > ha scritto:

Che si usi il tag /maxspeed=xx/ penso che lo sappiamo quasi tutti... :)

Ma secondo voi come si fa per mappare quelle strade che attravesano"e solite
4-5 case lungo la strada provinciale", dove non ci sono cartelli di sorta ma
s'intende che il limite è di 50 perchè prescritto dal Codice della Strada
nel caso di attraversamento di centro abitato?

Metto maxspeed=50... e poi?  source:maxspeed=Codice della Strada?
Oppure non si mette nulla in quanto non ci sono cartelli?

Altro caso che si applica ad esempio alle Autostrade: come si fa a dire "110
in caso di precipitazioni intense, 50 in caso di nebbia"? E' possibile?

Ciao e grazie,
Max



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Re: [Talk-it] Versione di Osm con indicatori propri

[Simone F.]

Ciao

Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 19:11, andrea  ha
scritto:

> ...Vorrei sapere se con Osm è possibile creare una versione della mappa
> "speculare" , in cui gli utenti possano inserire e togliere degli
> indicatori di posizione con delle informazioni proprie? Questo, senza
> predisporre server propri.
> ... rendendo poi visibile quella sezione con quei segnalini a un pubblico
> ampliabile a propria scelta.
>
Prova uMap:
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/it/


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre occidentale

[joost schouppe]

On topic: 60 dagen cursus geven is inderdaad een tikje waanzinnig voor een
vrijwilliger. Maar er zijn ongetwijfeld voldoende capabele mensen die dat
zouden kunnen doen, tegen een billijke vergoeding. Het alternatief is dat
iemand binnen jullie organisatie zelf "OSM-expert" wordt en binnen zijn
uren die trainingen doet.

Off topic:
Ik heb inderdaad occcasioneel last van een teveel aan zelfvertrouwen, en
heb mij dan ook al te buiten gegaan aan het proberen uitleggen van OSM en
de iD editor. Er zijn uiteraard anderen die het veel beter zouden kunnen,
maar dat geldt voor alles wat we doen. Ik denk dat elk van ons nog steeds
constant bijleert over OSM - er is geen moment dat je opeens kunt zeggen:
en nu ken ik OSM. Het doel van een cursus kan dan ook nooit zijn om experts
te maken, maar enkel om mensen zelfredzaam te maken in de wondere wereld
van OSM.
Besef dus gewoon dat hoe weinig je ook weet, je toch een cruciaal stuk
kennis hebt, dat iemand die nog nooit over OSM heeft gehoord niet heeft.

Naast het bewerkbaar-maken-zonder-procedure, is het ook gewoon niet
mogelijk om zomaar externe data in te pluggen. Een fietsroutenetwerk leeft
bijvoorbeeld bovenop een levende stratenatlas. Als iemand een straat
splitst of de geometrie verbetert, dan blijft het netwerk bestaan. Maar een
extern routenetwerk zou daarop compleet tilt slaan. Openstreetmap is niet
een collectie lagen, maar één organisch geheel.

Je kan de vraag bijna evengoed omdraaien: als je je routenetwerk kan laten
leven binnen een gecrowdsourced systeem, waarom zou je het dan zelf ook nog
in een externe database laten leven. OK, je zou af en toe een versie kunnen
downloaden en een officieel stempel geven. En misschien moet je een
systeempje opzetten dat automatisch nieuwe fouten detecteert, zodat je snel
kan ingrijpen indien nodig.

Maar goed, gegeven de groei van geografische open data buiten Openstreetmap
kan je bij sommige datasets inderdaad die vraag stellen. Een mooi voorbeeld
zijn adressen: gigantisch werk om ze in OSM in te laden, gigantisch werk om
ze actueel te houden. En langzamerhand ontstaan er systemen om al die
nationale en regionale sets in één platform aan te bieden, zie
bijvoorbeeld: http://openaddresses.io/ . Dus daar zijn zeker kansen om
tools te bouwen die naast OSM ook andere geografische bronnen gebruiken.
Maar dat heeft op zich niets met mappen te maken. Laat de ontwikkelaars
maar doen.

In het geval van adressen ken ik toevallig zowel de officiële als de OSM
wereld. Ik zie met wat voor tools, complexiteit, procedures de officiële
wereld draait. En dan zie ik wat we hier met zo weinig mensen en middelen
doen. En hoeveel groeipotentieel er nog is. Dan denk ik dat het niet zo
heel lang meer gaat duren eer de crowdsourced data de officiële naar de
kroon steekt. En dan kan het snel gaan.

Op 16 december 2015 18:55 schreef Verhoeven Fr :

>  Sinds  ik JOSM gebruik is er al veel verandert, en in iedere versie zit
> er wat nieuw. De tools zijn al verdubbeld.
> Waar ik de meeste moeite mee heb is de zoekfunctie, nochtans is die heel
> nuttig.
>
> Sus
>
>
> Le 16/12/15 16:17, Marc Gemis a écrit :
>
> Volgens mij nota's van de meeting in April van dit jaar [1] was het de
>> bedoeling een cursus op te stellen op een professionele manier. Men
>> sprak van 60 opleidingsdagen voor personeel en peters en meters
>> (gescheiden groepen). Volgens mij was (en is) er niemand binnen de
>> community die dat soort cursus in elkaar kan boxen en die gedurende de
>> week kan gaan geven.
>>
>> Dit is van een heel ander niveau dan eventjes een presentatie van een
>> half uurtje te doen op een mapping party. En zelfs daar vind je amper
>> kandidaten voor. Het zijn altijd dezelfde personen die opdraven voor
>> zulke opdrachten.
>>
>> Ik zie me natuurlijk graag gecorrigeerd op dit punt.
>>
>> mvg
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre occidentale

[Guy Vanvuchelen]

Je moet wel een hele dosis zelfvertrouwen hebben om zo'n cursus te durven 
geven. OSM en JOSM zijn immers zo uitgebreid dat waarschijnlijk niemand alle 
details kent. Bovendien komen er regelmatig problemen ter sprake in Talk.be en 
meestal blijven ze onopgelost. 
Het opstellen van een cursus zou voor veel beginners en waarschijnlijk voor 
veel peters en meters al een hele stap in de goede richting zijn.  Zelf zie ik 
me niet bekwaam op zo'n cursus op te stellen maar ik zou bijvoorbeeld wel zo'n 
cursus kunnen illustreren met schermafbeeldingen.

Guy Vanvuchelen

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com] 
Verzonden: woensdag 16 december 2015 16:17
Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre 
occidentale

Volgens mij nota's van de meeting in April van dit jaar [1] was het de 
bedoeling een cursus op te stellen op een professionele manier. Men sprak van 
60 opleidingsdagen voor personeel en peters en meters (gescheiden groepen). 
Volgens mij was (en is) er niemand binnen de community die dat soort cursus in 
elkaar kan boxen en die gedurende de week kan gaan geven.

Dit is van een heel ander niveau dan eventjes een presentatie van een half 
uurtje te doen op een mapping party. En zelfs daar vind je amper kandidaten 
voor. Het zijn altijd dezelfde personen die opdraven voor zulke opdrachten.

Ik zie me natuurlijk graag gecorrigeerd op dit punt.

mvg

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Daniele Forsi]

Il 16 dicembre 2015 09:38, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:

> Segnalo che http://taginfo.openstreetmap.it è andato online

grazie, mi ha permesso di trovare nella mia regione 8 piccoli errori
facili da correggere

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Simone F.]

Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 15:49, Marcello  ha scritto:

>
> Gran bel lavoro!
>
> Grazie Martin
>

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[Talk-it] Versione di Osm con indicatori propri

[andrea]

Buongiorno a tutti, una domanda su un tema che non sono riuscito a
riscontrare tra i thread. Vorrei sapere se con Osm è possibile creare una
versione della mappa "speculare" , in cui gli utenti possano inserire e
togliere degli indicatori di posizione con delle informazioni proprie?
Questo, senza predisporre server propri.
Una cosa simile, in un certo senso, avviene su Google map, dove nel proprio
account privato è possibile prendere sezioni di mappa e inserire propri
segnalini (ad esempio, i b in cui si è stati nel viaggio di nozze, ecc),
rendendo poi visibile quella sezione con quei segnalini a un pubblico
ampliabile a propria scelta.
Se vi sono thread che hanno già trattato l'argomento, vi ringrazio se
potrete indicarmeli.
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Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

[Andrew Davidson]

You're not likely to get much of a response from the editors you contacted. The 
Barrington Tops boundary was drawn in by a user that hasn't edited for 5 years.

http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=25968044

An the Myall edits about 2 years old.


The Blue Mountains boundary dates back to 2012:

http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=169174227


It is probably quite safe to assume that any existing boundaries are 
"approximate" and can be replaced.


Tagging things with a layer that don't actually physically pass over or under 
something else is tagging for the 
renderer.




On Thursday, 17 December 2015, 8:26, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi ...
I'm using LPI to tag National Park and State Forest boundaries and came 
across some large "Inappropriately tagged areas".
Way 25968044tagged as Barrington Tops National Park, this area includes 
National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
Way 232137774 tagged as Myall State Forest, this area includes National 
Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
Way169174227tagged as Blue Mountains National Park, this area includes 
National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.

They don't have a source, I have made comments on the first 2 
changesets- no response so far.

They appear to be tracing forest areas from satellite imagery, as such I 
think they would be best tagged as "landcover=trees, source=imagery" 
with no name nor other identifying tags. They are all much much larger 
than their name would suggest.

The last one already has an encompassingRelation: 3550886 that has tag 
'natural=wood'. At least some of that area is State Forest that has pine 
trees .. As an Ozie I don't call them 'natural' ... it is hair splitting 
but I'd rather use 'landcover=trees'. :-)

The first one carries a tag "layer=-5", I assume this is to suppress its 
rendering or at least allow any other tagged there to over write it. I 
am tempted to use the same tagging method on all three ways.

Comments please?

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Re: [Talk-br] Olá.

[Vinicius Figueiredo]

Olá todos! Não configurei a localização,  mas também sou de Fortaleza-CE.

Abraços!

Vinicius Figueiredo

Em 22h45 Dom, 29/11/2015, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros <
alexandre@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Pode haver mais pessoas. Nem todo mundo configura sua localização no
> sistema. Também tem os mapeadores de fora. Mas o
> resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc diz que com você, aí na cidade mesmo, tem
> apenas o Felipe Silva .
> Recomendo que você dê uma olhada no WHODIDIT
> .
> Outros mapearam por aí...
>
> Alexandre Magno
>
> Em 29 de novembro de 2015 21:48, ALEX RODRIGO DA ROSA <
> alexrodrig...@hotmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Sou de São Jerônimo no Rio Grande do Sul, gostaria de saber se mais
>> alguém faz parte do projeto aqui na região?
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[Talk-pe] Hola

[Erick Navarro]

Hola, me llamo Erick, soy desarrollador y vengo usando OSM desde hace unas 
cuantas semanas, debido a un proyecto, conjuntamente con la librería 
leaftlet.js y me parece genial me interesa bastante poder profundizar mas en 
estos temas, quisiera saber si tienen programado algún evento, reunión, meetup, 
etc ya que me gustaría participar y conocer a la comunidad de OSM en Perú.


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Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

[Warin]

On 17/12/2015 8:35 AM, Ben Kelley wrote:


Hi.

I thought natural=wood was for trees that had not been planted for the 
purpose of forestry.


landuse=forest is where they were planted for forestry.


+1


Use is not consistent.


Situation normal.


(If you harvest the natural trees, which one is it?)



forestry.


See the Forest page on the wiki,





but landcover=trees seems incorrect.



Why?

I would take it that the area is covered in trees.
What human purpose they are put to is not specified by the landcover tag.


  - Ben.

On Dec 17, 2015 8:25 AM, "Warin" <61sundow...@gmail.com 
> wrote:


Hi ...
I'm using LPI to tag National Park and State Forest boundaries and
came across some large "Inappropriately tagged areas".
Way 25968044tagged as Barrington Tops National Park, this area
includes National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
Way 232137774 tagged as Myall State Forest, this area includes
National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
Way169174227tagged as Blue Mountains National Park, this area
includes National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.

They don't have a source, I have made comments on the first 2
changesets- no response so far.

They appear to be tracing forest areas from satellite imagery, as
such I think they would be best tagged as "landcover=trees,
source=imagery" with no name nor other identifying tags. They are
all much much larger than their name would suggest.

The last one already has an encompassingRelation: 3550886 that has
tag 'natural=wood'. At least some of that area is State Forest
that has pine trees .. As an Ozie I don't call them 'natural' ...
it is hair splitting but I'd rather use 'landcover=trees'. :-)

The first one carries a tag "layer=-5", I assume this is to
suppress its rendering or at least allow any other tagged there to
over write it. I am tempted to use the same tagging method on all
three ways.

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[talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

[Warin]

Hi ...
I'm using LPI to tag National Park and State Forest boundaries and came 
across some large "Inappropriately tagged areas".
Way 25968044tagged as Barrington Tops National Park, this area includes 
National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
Way 232137774 tagged as Myall State Forest, this area includes National 
Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
Way169174227tagged as Blue Mountains National Park, this area includes 
National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.


They don't have a source, I have made comments on the first 2 
changesets- no response so far.


They appear to be tracing forest areas from satellite imagery, as such I 
think they would be best tagged as "landcover=trees, source=imagery" 
with no name nor other identifying tags. They are all much much larger 
than their name would suggest.


The last one already has an encompassingRelation: 3550886 that has tag 
'natural=wood'. At least some of that area is State Forest that has pine 
trees .. As an Ozie I don't call them 'natural' ... it is hair splitting 
but I'd rather use 'landcover=trees'. :-)


The first one carries a tag "layer=-5", I assume this is to suppress its 
rendering or at least allow any other tagged there to over write it. I 
am tempted to use the same tagging method on all three ways.


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Re: [Talk-it] Versione di Osm con indicatori propri

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Come già citato, umap. Hai diversi rendering di osm e puoi collegare ogni
elemento alla relativa riga di un foglio elettronico (p.es. ethercalc.org)
oppure editare direttamente pin, polilinee e poligoni.

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Il 16/dic/2015 19:11 "andrea"  ha scritto:

> Buongiorno a tutti, una domanda su un tema che non sono riuscito a
> riscontrare tra i thread. Vorrei sapere se con Osm è possibile creare una
> versione della mappa "speculare" , in cui gli utenti possano inserire e
> togliere degli indicatori di posizione con delle informazioni proprie?
> Questo, senza predisporre server propri.
> Una cosa simile, in un certo senso, avviene su Google map, dove nel
> proprio account privato è possibile prendere sezioni di mappa e inserire
> propri segnalini (ad esempio, i b in cui si è stati nel viaggio di nozze,
> ecc), rendendo poi visibile quella sezione con quei segnalini a un pubblico
> ampliabile a propria scelta.
> Se vi sono thread che hanno già trattato l'argomento, vi ringrazio se
> potrete indicarmeli.
> Andrea Alba
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Re: [Talk-it] [Mappatura] Limiti di velocità non segnalati (ma applicati)

[Alberto Nogaro]

No, per la relazione dei default la notazione che hai proposto tu è corretta, 
almeno secondo questa proposta:

 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Defaults

 

 

Ciao,

Alberto

 

 

From: Andrea Albani [mailto:aob...@gmail.com] 
Sent: mercoledì 16 dicembre 2015 19:48
To: openstreetmap list - italiano ; 
bartosom...@yahoo.it
Subject: Re: [Talk-it] [Mappatura] Limiti di velocità non segnalati (ma 
applicati)

 

Hai ragione. Mio errore.
Cmq nei default per l'Italia è riportata la notazione che ho indicato io. Forse 
è il caso di correggerla? 

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Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

[Ben Kelley]

Hi.

I thought natural=wood was for trees that had not been planted for the
purpose of forestry.

landuse=forest is where they were planted for forestry.

Use is not consistent. (If you harvest the natural trees, which one is it?)
See the Forest page on the wiki, but landcover=trees seems incorrect.

  - Ben.
On Dec 17, 2015 8:25 AM, "Warin" <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi ...
> I'm using LPI to tag National Park and State Forest boundaries and came
> across some large "Inappropriately tagged areas".
> Way 25968044tagged as Barrington Tops National Park, this area includes
> National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
> Way 232137774 tagged as Myall State Forest, this area includes National
> Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
> Way169174227tagged as Blue Mountains National Park, this area includes
> National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
>
> They don't have a source, I have made comments on the first 2 changesets-
> no response so far.
>
> They appear to be tracing forest areas from satellite imagery, as such I
> think they would be best tagged as "landcover=trees, source=imagery" with
> no name nor other identifying tags. They are all much much larger than
> their name would suggest.
>
> The last one already has an encompassingRelation: 3550886 that has tag
> 'natural=wood'. At least some of that area is State Forest that has pine
> trees .. As an Ozie I don't call them 'natural' ... it is hair splitting
> but I'd rather use 'landcover=trees'. :-)
>
> The first one carries a tag "layer=-5", I assume this is to suppress its
> rendering or at least allow any other tagged there to over write it. I am
> tempted to use the same tagging method on all three ways.
>
> Comments please?
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Re: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December at 8pm

[Harry Wood]

Thanks for making something happen Rob!

So this conference call is TOMORROW at 8pm.

I added those details to the wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/UK

But d'you have the dial-in details?

Harry



From: Rob Nickerson 
To: Talk-GB  
Sent: Sunday, 6 December 2015, 19:25
Subject: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December
at 8pm



Hi all,


Early this year I published a survey asking about “a UK/GB OpenStreetMap
group”. 101 people filled it in and many contacted me to say they liked the 
idea. Encouraged by the this and my local 
Mappa Mercia group, we feel the time is right to start the group. To get us 
going Wikimedia UK have kindly offered us their teleconference facility for 
our first meeting – 8pm on 17th December. I've used teleconferencing facilities 
in the past for State of the Map 2013 and find that they work well (no 
text/chat facility ensures that there is only one conversation going on - the 
one being heard by everyone).

Survey results:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A8rKyKUW0X01n-JEMLwEUT4ktX-7WrxNP03YTkZs6lU/edit#

To get
us going we will need a few people to commit time over the next 6 
months. The roles we need are set out below and
we will need to initially fill them and then, once we have a 
constitution in place, we will need volunteers to stand for election. These 
roles will be needed irrespective of whether decision making lies with the 
membership or an elected board.

* Chair – to provide leadership and ensures the group functions properly

* Treasurer – to organise the finances of the group. Initially this will 
mean setting up our bank account.

* Secretary/Membership secretary – to keep the register of members up to 
date (indeed to set 
on up in the first place), to ensure that voting procedures are carried 
out in accordance to our agreed policy. There is potential for this to 
be two separate roles.We will also need an initial working group to provide 
ideas and discussion. This group can also support the 
aforementioned roles in small discrete tasks.

Please let me know 
if you can help with setting up the group and/or whether you would be 
willing to stand for election once the constitution is established. I will 
share the telephone 
number and login PIN closer to the date.

Best,

Rob

p.s. Busy on 17th December? No worries. Send me you comments and I will make 
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Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

[Andrew Harvey]

+1 for separating out landcover and administrative boundaries into
separate ways.

In practice it's often a good approximation to simply combine these,
however once you want more accurate data they'll need to be separated
out.

On 17 December 2015 at 08:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi ...
> I'm using LPI to tag National Park and State Forest boundaries and came
> across some large "Inappropriately tagged areas".
> Way 25968044tagged as Barrington Tops National Park, this area includes
> National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
> Way 232137774 tagged as Myall State Forest, this area includes National
> Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
> Way169174227tagged as Blue Mountains National Park, this area includes
> National Parks, State Conservation Areas, State Forests.
>
> They don't have a source, I have made comments on the first 2 changesets- no
> response so far.
>
> They appear to be tracing forest areas from satellite imagery, as such I
> think they would be best tagged as "landcover=trees, source=imagery" with no
> name nor other identifying tags. They are all much much larger than their
> name would suggest.
>
> The last one already has an encompassingRelation: 3550886 that has tag
> 'natural=wood'. At least some of that area is State Forest that has pine
> trees .. As an Ozie I don't call them 'natural' ... it is hair splitting but
> I'd rather use 'landcover=trees'. :-)
>
> The first one carries a tag "layer=-5", I assume this is to suppress its
> rendering or at least allow any other tagged there to over write it. I am
> tempted to use the same tagging method on all three ways.
>
> Comments please?
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December at 8pm

[Shaun McDonald]

Hi Brian,

Are you aware that 0800 numbers are now free from mobiles?
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/phones/2015/06/0800-numbers-now-free-to-call-from-mobiles

Shaun

> On 16 Dec 2015, at 23:06, Brian Prangle  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> Calls from a mobile, the number is 0330 336 2206, and the passcode 33224. 
> Calls will cost the same as a call to an 01 or 02 landline. 
> 
> Calls from a landline, the number is 0800 22 90 900 (same passcode) which 
> will be free
> 
> Regards
> 
> Brian
> 
> On 16 December 2015 at 22:10, Harry Wood  > wrote:
> Thanks for making something happen Rob!
> 
> So this conference call is TOMORROW at 8pm.
> 
> I added those details to the wiki page:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/UK 
> 
> But d'you have the dial-in details?
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
> 
> From: Rob Nickerson  >
> To: Talk-GB >
> Sent: Sunday, 6 December 2015, 19:25
> Subject: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December
> at 8pm
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Early this year I published a survey asking about “a UK/GB OpenStreetMap
> group”. 101 people filled it in and many contacted me to say they liked the 
> idea. Encouraged by the this and my local
> Mappa Mercia group, we feel the time is right to start the group. To get us 
> going Wikimedia UK have kindly offered us their teleconference facility for
> our first meeting – 8pm on 17th December. I've used teleconferencing 
> facilities in the past for State of the Map 2013 and find that they work well 
> (no text/chat facility ensures that there is only one conversation going on - 
> the one being heard by everyone).
> 
> Survey results:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A8rKyKUW0X01n-JEMLwEUT4ktX-7WrxNP03YTkZs6lU/edit#
>  
> 
> 
> To get
> us going we will need a few people to commit time over the next 6
> months. The roles we need are set out below and
> we will need to initially fill them and then, once we have a
> constitution in place, we will need volunteers to stand for election. These 
> roles will be needed irrespective of whether decision making lies with the 
> membership or an elected board.
> 
> * Chair – to provide leadership and ensures the group functions properly
> 
> * Treasurer – to organise the finances of the group. Initially this will 
> mean setting up our bank account.
> 
> * Secretary/Membership secretary – to keep the register of members up to 
> date (indeed to set
> on up in the first place), to ensure that voting procedures are carried
> out in accordance to our agreed policy. There is potential for this to
> be two separate roles.We will also need an initial working group to provide 
> ideas and discussion. This group can also support the
> aforementioned roles in small discrete tasks.
> 
> Please let me know
> if you can help with setting up the group and/or whether you would be
> willing to stand for election once the constitution is established. I will 
> share the telephone
> number and login PIN closer to the date.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rob
> 
> p.s. Busy on 17th December? No worries. Send me you comments and I will make 
> sure they are shared.
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Re: [Talk-pe] Charla OSM en Huacho

[Alfonso Torres]

Si todavía estas en Huacho puedes contactarte con el profesor César Vasquez de 
la Cruz 945-658850el tiene una brigada ecológica "Tierra Verde" conformada por 
alumnos de dicha universidad.Y si estas por Lima hay un evento por realizarse 
en el distrito de Chorrillos o si no comunicarte connosotros para tomar un 
café.SldsAlfonso. 

El Miércoles, 16 de diciembre, 2015 16:03:17, andrzej zaborowski 
 escribió:
 

 Gracias Johnattan.

Para resumir un poco, a falta de coneccion internet en el aula solo
fue una presentiacion.  En teoria se habia publicado el programa de la
jornada de talleres pero creo que solamente en la red interna porque
no lo encontre.  El programa se ha seguido de una manera caotica, asi
que mejor asi ;)  Me informan que el 8 de junio, el Dia del Ingeniero,
es un evento importante en esta universidad y sera una oportunidad
para dar a conocer OSM mas, querran invitar a algun ponente.

Saludos

2015-12-15 14:36 GMT-05:00 Johnattan Rupire :
> Hola Andrzej,
> qué bien la reunión, espero que alguien haya podido participar! hay algún
> link donde hay más info? al menos para linkearla al blog...
> Saludos y bienvenido a Perú!!
>
> El 14/12/15 a las 01:20, andrzej zaborowski escribió:
>>
>> Hola a todos,
>>
>> Este martes 15 mas o menos a la 1 de la tarde (queda por confirmar la
>> hora) haremos un pequeño taller de mapeo en OpenStreetMap en el curso
>> de una actividad de tres dias que llaman Event System en la
>> Universidad Nacional en Huacho.  Si hay algun mapero interesado en
>> asistir al taller para ayudar con su experiencia, les animo.
>>
>> Estoy en Peru de viaje y la idea del taller ha salido porque iba a
>> estar en es evento tambien por otros motivos.  He mapeado en Peru
>> antes pero no es mucho y no conozco a la comunidad OSM de aqui.
>>
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Re: [Talk-de] Karten für Flüchtlinge - Sprache Legende Kartenstyle

[Michael Buege]

Zitat Stefan Kaufmann:

> Am 2015-12-16 um 17:41 schrieb Markus:
>
>> Kurzfristig: ja
>>
>> Die nachhaltige Lösung heisst *Immersion*.
>>
>> Dadurch lernt man nicht nur die Sprache, sondern durch den Kontakt mit
>> Einheimischen auch noch gleich kulturspezifische Umgangsformen und
>> andere Kulturmerkmale.
>> Und man knüpft Kontakte, und manchmal gewinnt man sogar Freunde :-)
>>
>> Ich fände sinnvoll, wenn wir sprach-wissenschaftliche Erkenntnisse auch
>> für unsere Karten entsprechend nutzen.
>
> Wollen wir diese Entscheidung nicht der jeweiligen Sachlage vor Ort 
> ueberlassen? Z.B. vor dem Hintergrund der Entscheidung zwischen 
> Erstaufnahmelager und mittelfristiger Unterkunft?

...und wollen wir nicht mal einen Fragenkatalog erarbeiten mit Fragen,
die wir an die Leute haben, die uns aus erster Hand sagen können, was
sinnvoll und nützlich ist?
Ich treffe mich in den nächsten Tagen mit jemandem von der
Flüchtlingshilfe Hamburg. Was soll ich fragen, was wäre für uns wichtig
zu wissen? 


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Voies récentes dans Fantoir, absentes d'OSM

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

Bonjour,

Le 16/12/2015 14:46, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :



De: "Donat ROBAUX" 



Puisque c'est bientôt Noël, est-ce possible d'envisager un tri par
code INSEE également?


Je vais regarder pour utiliser les mêmes tableaux que pour les listings 
FANTOIR, qu'on peut trier dans tous les sens. Mais ça ne changera pas la 
population du tableau, qui reste la sélection des voies inconnues les plus 
récentes.


C'est réglé, ainsi que le problème de la dernière ligne masquée par le 
copyright.


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre occidentale

[Marc Gemis]

2015-12-16 19:35 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe :
> On topic: 60 dagen cursus geven is inderdaad een tikje waanzinnig voor een
> vrijwilliger. Maar er zijn ongetwijfeld voldoende capabele mensen die dat
> zouden kunnen doen, tegen een billijke vergoeding. Het alternatief is dat
> iemand binnen jullie organisatie zelf "OSM-expert" wordt en binnen zijn uren
> die trainingen doet.

Er was sprake om dit bv. in samenwerking met Syntra te doen.

Maar moet je wel 5 dagen cursus aan 1 groep geven (Ik geloof er sprake
was van 12 reeksen van 5 dagen) ?
Er zijn duizenden mappers die het doen zonder zo'n lange cursus.

Zou 1 introductiedag niet voldoende zijn ?Zouden we daar al niet
kunnen mee beginnen en dan vastleggen wat de noden zijn  voor
eventuele opvolgcursussen ?
Op zo'n dag kan je gemakkelijk OSM toelichten, een survey maken en
mappen nadien.
Je zou afzonderlijke dagen kunnen nemen voor de medewerkers aan de ene
kant en de peters en meters aan de andere kant. Als je tenminste echt
verschillende presentaties zou maken.



---
I.v.m. de wandelnetwerken in afzonderlijke DB houden. Dat gebeurt nu
al in bv http://www.wandelknooppunt.be. Daar kan je alle routes
bekijken boven Google Maps, satelliet foto of OSM-kaart.
De routes volgen daar inderdaad niet altijd de onderliggende weg, en
als je een route download mag je regelmatig toch 10% in lengte
bijtellen (of wijkt mijn GPS toestel zoveel af ?). Zou het
nauwkeuriger zijn moest de route echt gebonden zijn aan de
onderliggende wegen ?

Je kan natuurlijk nog uren debatteren wat je echt in OSM zet, wat in
een andere DB, hoe je dat in OSM zet (via import of surveys) enz. Maar
dat moeten we maar eens bij pot en pint doen :-)
---


Ik zou bij deze de mensen van Westtoer en hun peters en meters al
willen uitnodigen om de Missing Maps party in Gent. Dan leren ze OSM
al wat kennen.

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-12-16 14:57 GMT+01:00 Stefano Salvador :

> da quello che ho capito ogni regione risponde su una porta diversa. Per
> rendere transparente la cosa è possibile installare il modulo di apache
> "mod_proxy" e configurarlo tipo così:
>
> 
> ProxyPass http://localhost:7805
> Order deny,allow
> Allow from all
> 
>
> a questo punto il taginfo regionale è accessibile tramite http://taginfo
> .openstreetmap.it/fvg
>
> e così via per le venti regioni.



non mi funziona:
500 Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable
to complete your request.

error.log: AH01144: No protocol handler was valid for the URL /fvg. If you
are using a DSO version of mod_proxy, make sure the proxy submodules are
included in the configuration using LoadModule.

$ ls mods-enabled/
access_compat.load  authn_core.load  authz_user.load  deflate.load
filter.load   mpm_prefork.load  passenger.load  proxy_balancer.conf
proxy_express.load  proxy_http.load  rewrite.load  status.conf
alias.conf  authn_file.load  autoindex.conf   dir.conf
mime.conf negotiation.conf  php5.conf   proxy_balancer.load
proxy_fcgi.load proxy.load   setenvif.conf status.load
alias.load  authz_core.load  autoindex.load   dir.load
mime.load negotiation.load  php5.load   proxy.conf
proxy_fdpass.load   proxy_scgi.load  setenvif.load
auth_basic.load authz_host.load  deflate.conf env.load
mpm_prefork.conf  passenger.confproxy_ajp.load  proxy_connect.load
proxy_html.load proxy_wstunnel.load  slotmem_shm.load


Ciao,
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[talk-au] gmail users suspended..

[Ian Sergeant]

Hi,

mailman seems to have just suspended all gmail subscribers from this list.
Seems to have been response to gmail deciding to bounce some yahoo original
emails.

Anyway, for now I've turned off mailman bounce processing.

But 50-odd members will have to reconfirm their membership.

Thanks,
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[Talk-GB] Agenda and Joining details for Today's OpenStreetMap UK/GB telephone meeting

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

As noted in previous emails to this list, please find the dial in number
for the first UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting below.

Brian Prangle has kindly volunteered to help facilitate the first meeting
following on from his Chairmanship of the State of the Map 2013
(Birmingham) group. The following brief agenda has will be followed in the
interest of wanting to deal with bite-sized chunks and to get things
moving, not in wanting to curtail discussion.

*Suggested agenda:*

   - Welcome & Introduction
   - Aims & Objectives
   - Name or project code
   - Volunteers for pre-inauguration working group
   - Volunteers for "officers-elect" and eventually as officers (subject to
   election): Chair, Secretary(to include membership admin unless a separate
   role),Treasurer.

Suggested duration 1 hour, but not set in stone.

*Joining details:*
*->Today, Thursday 17th December at 8pm*
This is a telephone conference with the facilities kindly provided by
Wikimedia UK. There are two UK numbers to select from. Shaun informs me
that the the 0800 number should now be free from both landlines and mobiles
but just in case I also include the 03 number. The 03 number costs no more
than a national rate call to a traditional 01 or 02 number and if you have
inclusive minutes as part of your phone/mobile contract then you can use
these on the 03 number.

Numbers and passcode at
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-December/018108.html

*Survey results:*
As a reminder the results of the survey we did earlier this year can be
found at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A8rKyKUW0X01n-JEMLwEUT4ktX-7WrxNP03YTkZs6lU/edit

Hope to hear from many of you today (Thursday) at 8pm.

Regards,
*Rob*
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[OSM-ja] Tagging a Japanese address correctly

[Daniel Kastl]

Hi,

I tried to find a Wiki page about tagging Japanese addresses correctly.
I only found the general "JA:Key:addr" page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Key:addr
Is there already some other guideline how to do this?

For example for a building I could add the following tags?

addr:full=兵庫県神戸市中央区雲井通5-3-1
add:postcode=651-0096
addr:country=JA
addr:province=兵庫
addr:city=神戸
addr:suburb=中央区
addr:place=雲井通5-3-1
addr:housename=サンパル

Already here I have various questions:

  * Do I include 県市区町名 in tags like addr:province or addr:city?
"addr:suburb=中央区" or "addr:suburb=中央"?

  * How to tag the English/Romaji/Kana address?
"addr:city:en=Kobe" and "addr:city:ja_kana=こうべ"?
This going to become a huge list of tags then for every address.

  * Is "addr:place=雲井通5-3-1" correct?
What to do with 上田町 and 二丁目? Do we split an address into more
tags?

Since Japanese addresses have such a nice hierarchy using polygon areas,
it would be easy to derive information from parent address polygons
(instead of adding this information to each and every building).
In this case we have for example for "二丁目" as "boundary:admin_level=
10", but how to apply the address information?

Anyone has a best practice already?

Thanks,
Daniel


PS: Where I live now I received a very detailed map delivered to all
households by the city, published by 日本特殊地図協会. The block
polygons and other building shapes look identical to GSI/KIBAN 2500. But
there is no information about the data source. Property owners layers is
added, but maybe provided by Zenrin or the city?

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[Talk-es] Importación de farmacias de Madrid

[Alejandro Moreno Calvo]

Aunque la importación de farmacias de Madrid terminó hace varios meses [
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Madrid_Pharmacies_Import_Progress ]
escribo para comentaros que muchas de las farmacias tienen el nombre de
calle mal ya que los datos no contienen las preposiciones de las calles. Es
decir, si una farmacia está en "Calle *del* Doctor Lozano" en los datos a
importar figuraba como "Calle Doctor Lozano".

Es un problema menor en relación a lo que se consiguió con la importación
pero quería dejar constancia para irlo corrigiendo poco a poco y de cara a
futuras importaciones de datos.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre occidentale

[Marc Gemis]

Dat klopt inderdaad, de wandelknooppunten in en rond De Schorre in
Boom zijn bv. al 3 keer gewijzigd de laatste 5 jaar. Grote wijzigingen
en nieuwe stukken worden altijd aangekondigd, dan weet je waar je moet
gaan kijken. Kleine wijzingen kom je niet te weten.  Ik heb al wel
eens voorgesteld bij de Provincie Antwerpen om een nieuwsbrief uit te
geven met alle wijzigingen, dan weet je tenminste waar je moet gaan
kijken.

In het Pajottenland is er ook nog een stuk dat nu anders ingetekend
staat dan oorspronkelijk gepland. Het ontbrekende stuk + verplaatsen
paaltjes zou iets voor dit najaar geweest zijn. Heb nog geen tijd
gehad om er te gaan kijken.

mvg

m

2015-12-16 12:03 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere :
> Het up-to-date houden van data is een probleem bij meer dan enkel de
> fietsknooppunten. Het probleem is zeker even groot bij winkels, cafés en
> andere POI.
>
> Dingen checken en dubbel checken is de enige mogelijkheid om de OSM data
> up-to-date te houden zonder gebruik te maken van externe data.
>
> In het verleden is het knooppuntennetwerk trouwens al meerdere keren
> geupdated. Maar dan op kleinere schaal, en zonder grote aankondigingen. Ook
> dit hebben we moeten oplossen door alles nog eens dubbel te checken.
>
> Groeten,
> Sander
>
> Op 16 december 2015 11:27 schreef Marc Gemis :
>
>> In Duitsland gebruiken ze bij post bussen "collection_times:lastcheck"
>> , zie bv. de node http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1569410933 . Deze
>> informatie is dan weer zichtbaar op
>> http://www.briefkastenkarte.de/index.html
>>
>> Misschien kunnen we iets gelijkaardigs invoeren.
>>
>> Bij Westtoer werken ze ook met Peters en Meters die jaarlijks alle
>> netwerken afgaan. In de bespreking van April (of was het mei), was er
>> het idee om hen te leren mappen (meerdaagse cursus), niet enkel voor
>> netwerken, maar voor "alle" topics. Op deze manier zou een groot deel
>> van West-Vlaanderen up-to-date kunnen gehouden worden. Heb daar
>> sindsdien niets meer van gehoord.
>>
>> m
>>
>> 2015-12-16 11:15 GMT+01:00 Jakka :
>> >> Dus denk ik niet dat het zin heeft om alle knooppunten automatisch te
>> >> gaan taggen.
>> >
>> > Vroeg me af, hoe gaan we dat weten dat dit knooppunt en of deze
>> > verbinding
>> > nagezien en geactualiseerd werd.
>> > Ook voor eventueel niet osm mappers, maar deze die af en toe een
>> > verbinding
>> > willen checken en doorgeven. Dit om dubbel werk, tijd, fiets km te
>> > vermijden.
>> > Onderaan link naar een prog. die relaties test op onregelmatigheden.
>> > Misschien door nu algemene toevoeging van een "note:check=check node and
>> > relation" (of iets anders maar moet duidelijk zijn voor iemand, toerist
>> > die
>> > geen weet heeft dat alles herzien moet worden) op de huidige "rcn_ref"
>> > node
>> > te plaatsen en bij nazicht, update deze verwijderen. Oppassen tag
>> > "note=4-91" wordt gebruikt om relaties te melden.
>> > Moeten natuurlijk nog mogelijk zijn om dat uit te kunnen lezen met het
>> > dit
>> > prog. Zo kan iedereen mee volgen wat nog niet gedaan is, of waar
>> > onregelmatigheden zijn. En zo moet er geen wiki, site lijst opgestart en
>> > onderhouden worden. Heb mijn best gedaan om mijn betrokkenheid,
>> > bezorgdheid
>> > te verwoorden.
>> > Heb reeds een osm berichtje gestuurd van dit gesprek naar vmarc die nu
>> > loopt
>> > op talk.be
>> >
>> > http://osma.vmarc.be/nl/networks/be/rcn
>> >
>> > Sander Deryckere schreef op 15/12/2015 om 16:25:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Op 15 december 2015 16:15 schreef Jakka
>> >> > >> >:
>> >>
>> >> Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen wordt volledig herzien en op veel
>> >> plaatsen bijgewerkt, verlegt, nieuwe verbindingen toegevoegd.
>> >> ...275 kilometer langer en er komen 392 knooppunten bij.
>> >> Hoe weten de gebruikers OSM, en afgeleide app dat de huidige
>> >> bestaande relaties nog niet aangepast, herzien werden.
>> >> Kan iemand al deze relaties globaal in één keer voorzien van een
>> >> merk tag welk? Een datum van de start herziening met een
>> >> verklarende
>> >> tekst?
>> >> Wie de vernieuwde route nagezien heeft, welke tag voorzien ? Gewoon
>> >> schrappen vorige tag geen goed idee???
>> >> Is er kans dat Toerisme West-Vlaanderen toelaat van hun data te
>> >> delen om sneller een update te hebben?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.westtoer.be/nl/actief-beleven/fietsen/herziening-fietsnetwerk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Het aantal knooppunten dat verwijderd wordt is tamelijk klein. Er
>> >> worden
>> >> vooral veel routes en knooppunten bijgemaakt (voor zover ik kon zien,
>> >> heb al even vluchtig de kaart kunnen bekijken). Dat maakt natuurlijk de
>> >> routes ongeldig, maar op knooppuntniveau valt het werk dan nog wel mee.
>> >> Dus denk ik niet dat het zin heeft om alle knooppunten automatisch te
>> >> gaan taggen.
>> >>
>> >> Zelf heb ik een nieuw knooppunt ontdekt  in 

Re: [Talk-es] Importación de farmacias de Madrid

[Luis García Castro]

Buenas,

Este tipo de importaciones convendrá repetirlas cada x tiempo, de forma lo
más automatizada posible. ¿Podemos evitar que estas correcciones de nombres
de calles manuales no se machaquen?

La verdad es que no me he podido implicar aún en ninguna importación a
pesar de que me encantaría...

Un saludo,

El 16 de diciembre de 2015, 11:59, Alejandro Moreno Calvo  escribió:

> Aunque la importación de farmacias de Madrid terminó hace varios meses [
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Madrid_Pharmacies_Import_Progress ]
> escribo para comentaros que muchas de las farmacias tienen el nombre de
> calle mal ya que los datos no contienen las preposiciones de las calles. Es
> decir, si una farmacia está en "Calle *del* Doctor Lozano" en los datos a
> importar figuraba como "Calle Doctor Lozano".
>
> Es un problema menor en relación a lo que se consiguió con la importación
> pero quería dejar constancia para irlo corrigiendo poco a poco y de cara a
> futuras importaciones de datos.
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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

[Marián Kyral]

Tak perén má dnes plně obsazeno, k Dobré myšlence se mi nedaří se dovolat.
Nějaký jiný tip? Nebo se jen někde sejdeme a zkusíme štěstí? Jsme jen čtyři 
(možná méně).

Případně, pokud nevadí Stodůlky - restaurace Maják - tam to znám a nějaký 
stůl se tam většinou najde:
http://www.restaurantmajak.cz

Marián



-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Marián Kyral 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 15. 12. 2015 6:15:26
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"
Škoda. Tak třeba příště.

Díky za tip na restauraci. Já mezitím trochu brouzdal po mapě a hledal v 
centru. A že tam těch restaurací je :-D
A narazil jsem na restauraci s mým oblíbeným pivem - těch asi tady v Praze 
moc nebude: http://peronsmichov.cz/

Vyhovuje, nebo chcete něco méně hořkého? (i když dnes už to prý není to co 
to bývalo)

Marián


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Od: Jiří Sedláček 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 15. 12. 2015 1:55:20
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"

Nakonec nemůžu, neboť ten večer se koná (jak jsem zjistil) i vánoční setkání
brněnské Wikikomunity - ale dobrá restaurace - třeba u Dobré Myšlenky (
http://www.dobramyslenka.cz/(http://www.dobramyslenka.cz/)) - mezi Výtoní a 
Palackého nám. Je tam poměrně klid, mají tam dobré jídlo, většinou je i 
poměrně v pohodě obsluha.



J.




2015-12-14 7:50 GMT+01:00 Marián Kyral :
"
Dva týdny uplynuly a dle všeho je ideální termín tato středa, 16.12. v 18:
00. 
Prosím všechny o revizi své účasti, ať víme, kolik nás skotečně nakonec bude
a tip na vhodnou restauraci.

Marián


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Datum: 25. 11. 2015 22:11:08
Předmět: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"


Ahoj,
vánoce se pomalu, ale jistě blíží, co takhle zkusit ještě jedno OSM pivko?

http://doodle.com/poll/xygiab522kee4r29
(http://doodle.com/poll/xygiab522kee4r29)

Návrhy na vhodnou, ideálně nezakouřenou, restauraci vítány.

Marián



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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

[Marián Kyral]

Neutíkám, jen to tam náhodou znám ;-)
Lužiny můžou být - je to o dvě zastávky blíž do centra :-D

Marián


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Od: Petr Morávek [Xificurk] 
Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 16. 12. 2015 13:47:56
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"Dne 16.12.2015 v 13:35 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> Tak perén má dnes plně obsazeno, k Dobré myšlence se mi nedaří se dovolat.
> Nějaký jiný tip? Nebo se jen někde sejdeme a zkusíme štěstí? Jsme jen
> čtyři (možná méně).
> 
> Případně, pokud nevadí Stodůlky - restaurace Maják - tam to znám a
> nějaký stůl se tam většinou najde:
> http://www.restaurantmajak.cz
> 
> Marián

Ahoj,

když už utíkáš do těchto částí města, tak přihodím alternativu:
http://www.pivovar-luziny.cz/
Nekuřácké prostory, stůl pro 4 by se takhle v týdnu taky měl snad najít
i bez rezervace.

Petr Morávek aka Xificurk

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Voies récentes dans Fantoir, absentes d'OSM

[Donat ROBAUX]

>
> -- Message transféré --
> From: "Vincent de Château-Thierry" 
> To: "Discussions sur OSM en français" 
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:37:41 +0100
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Voies récentes dans Fantoir, absentes d'OSM
> Bonjour,
>
> Le 18/10/2015 09:41, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :
>
>> Bonjour,
>> Quand on présente OSM, on aime insister sur notre capacité à coller à
>> l'actualité au jour près : ouverture de magasin ou de portion de route,
>> nouveau sens de circulation, création de voie.
>> Par ailleurs une information donnée par FANTOIR est la date de création
>> des noms de voies.
>> J'ai voulu mesurer notre capacité à "coller" à l'actualité, en
>> confrontant les voies récentes de FANTOIR et le contenu d'OSM.
>>
> (...)
>
>> Et si ça semble opportun à certains, il sera aussi possible à peu de
>> frais de présenter, par exemple, les n rues les plus récentes d'un
>> département.
>>
>
> La page des voies récentes vient de changer : la liste ne concerne plus
> qu'un département à la fois, avec les 50 voies les plus récentes inconnues
> d'OSM. Le tri est par date FANTOIR décroissante.
>
> L'URL reste inchangée :
> http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/voies_recentes_manquantes.html
>
> vos retours bienvenus,
> vincent



Oh super! merci beaucoup Vincent. Tu m'enlèves une bonne épine du pied. ;)
Puisque c'est bientôt Noël, est-ce possible d'envisager un tri par code
INSEE également?

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Stefano Salvador]

da quello che ho capito ogni regione risponde su una porta diversa. Per
rendere transparente la cosa è possibile installare il modulo di apache
"mod_proxy" e configurarlo tipo così:


ProxyPass http://localhost:7805
Order deny,allow
Allow from all


a questo punto il taginfo regionale è accessibile tramite
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.it/fvg

e così via per le venti regioni.

Ciao,

Stefano


Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 14:27, Simone Cortesi  ha
scritto:

> 2015-12-16 9:38 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> >
> > Segnalo che http://taginfo.openstreetmap.it è andato online (diciamo si
> > tratta di una versione beta). Ci sono 20 istanze di taginfo, una per
> > regione, ma non c'è una versione dell'Italia completa, perché il nostro
> > server non ce la fa (RAM insufficiente). Le regioni sono come da
> > http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/italia_osm.html quindi
> leggermente
> > più grandi delle regioni politiche (potete notarlo talvolta sulle mappe
> > create). Il server si dovrebbe aggiornare giornalmente, in alto a destra
> > potete vedere la data dell'attuale estratto.
>
> la macchina in questione è una macchina un po' scassata, è mia
> (privata, non di wikimedia italia o di wikimedia foundation), e
> vecchiotta, giacchè che non la utilizzavo più ho deciso di renderla
> disponibile a Martin per questa prova.
>
> potrei vedere se si può, pagando, fare un upgrade.
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione

[Aury88]

cascafico wrote
> 
> Benissimo. Credo sia stata la risoluzione piú veloce finora :-)
> 
> OT..  posso inserire i POI in OSM?

non dovrebbe avere anche il collegamento alla pagina copyright di osm oltre
che a quella di leaflet?



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Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione

[Luca Delucchi]

2015-12-16 11:52 GMT+01:00 Aury88 :

>
> non dovrebbe avere anche il collegamento alla pagina copyright di osm oltre
> che a quella di leaflet?
>

no, è solo una best practice


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre occidentale

[Sander Deryckere]

Het up-to-date houden van data is een probleem bij meer dan enkel de
fietsknooppunten. Het probleem is zeker even groot bij winkels, cafés en
andere POI.

Dingen checken en dubbel checken is de enige mogelijkheid om de OSM data
up-to-date te houden zonder gebruik te maken van externe data.

In het verleden is het knooppuntennetwerk trouwens al meerdere keren
geupdated. Maar dan op kleinere schaal, en zonder grote aankondigingen. Ook
dit hebben we moeten oplossen door alles nog eens dubbel te checken.

Groeten,
Sander

Op 16 december 2015 11:27 schreef Marc Gemis :

> In Duitsland gebruiken ze bij post bussen "collection_times:lastcheck"
> , zie bv. de node http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1569410933 . Deze
> informatie is dan weer zichtbaar op
> http://www.briefkastenkarte.de/index.html
>
> Misschien kunnen we iets gelijkaardigs invoeren.
>
> Bij Westtoer werken ze ook met Peters en Meters die jaarlijks alle
> netwerken afgaan. In de bespreking van April (of was het mei), was er
> het idee om hen te leren mappen (meerdaagse cursus), niet enkel voor
> netwerken, maar voor "alle" topics. Op deze manier zou een groot deel
> van West-Vlaanderen up-to-date kunnen gehouden worden. Heb daar
> sindsdien niets meer van gehoord.
>
> m
>
> 2015-12-16 11:15 GMT+01:00 Jakka :
> >> Dus denk ik niet dat het zin heeft om alle knooppunten automatisch te
> >> gaan taggen.
> >
> > Vroeg me af, hoe gaan we dat weten dat dit knooppunt en of deze
> verbinding
> > nagezien en geactualiseerd werd.
> > Ook voor eventueel niet osm mappers, maar deze die af en toe een
> verbinding
> > willen checken en doorgeven. Dit om dubbel werk, tijd, fiets km te
> > vermijden.
> > Onderaan link naar een prog. die relaties test op onregelmatigheden.
> > Misschien door nu algemene toevoeging van een "note:check=check node and
> > relation" (of iets anders maar moet duidelijk zijn voor iemand, toerist
> die
> > geen weet heeft dat alles herzien moet worden) op de huidige "rcn_ref"
> node
> > te plaatsen en bij nazicht, update deze verwijderen. Oppassen tag
> > "note=4-91" wordt gebruikt om relaties te melden.
> > Moeten natuurlijk nog mogelijk zijn om dat uit te kunnen lezen met het
> dit
> > prog. Zo kan iedereen mee volgen wat nog niet gedaan is, of waar
> > onregelmatigheden zijn. En zo moet er geen wiki, site lijst opgestart en
> > onderhouden worden. Heb mijn best gedaan om mijn betrokkenheid,
> bezorgdheid
> > te verwoorden.
> > Heb reeds een osm berichtje gestuurd van dit gesprek naar vmarc die nu
> loopt
> > op talk.be
> >
> > http://osma.vmarc.be/nl/networks/be/rcn
> >
> > Sander Deryckere schreef op 15/12/2015 om 16:25:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Op 15 december 2015 16:15 schreef Jakka
> >>  >> >:
> >>
> >> Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen wordt volledig herzien en op veel
> >> plaatsen bijgewerkt, verlegt, nieuwe verbindingen toegevoegd.
> >> ...275 kilometer langer en er komen 392 knooppunten bij.
> >> Hoe weten de gebruikers OSM, en afgeleide app dat de huidige
> >> bestaande relaties nog niet aangepast, herzien werden.
> >> Kan iemand al deze relaties globaal in één keer voorzien van een
> >> merk tag welk? Een datum van de start herziening met een verklarende
> >> tekst?
> >> Wie de vernieuwde route nagezien heeft, welke tag voorzien ? Gewoon
> >> schrappen vorige tag geen goed idee???
> >> Is er kans dat Toerisme West-Vlaanderen toelaat van hun data te
> >> delen om sneller een update te hebben?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.westtoer.be/nl/actief-beleven/fietsen/herziening-fietsnetwerk
> >>
> >>
> >> Het aantal knooppunten dat verwijderd wordt is tamelijk klein. Er worden
> >> vooral veel routes en knooppunten bijgemaakt (voor zover ik kon zien,
> >> heb al even vluchtig de kaart kunnen bekijken). Dat maakt natuurlijk de
> >> routes ongeldig, maar op knooppuntniveau valt het werk dan nog wel mee.
> >> Dus denk ik niet dat het zin heeft om alle knooppunten automatisch te
> >> gaan taggen.
> >>
> >> Zelf heb ik een nieuw knooppunt ontdekt  in mijn straat.
> >>
> >> Ik weet niet hoe de contacten met westtoer nu zijn, maar tot op heden
> >> komt alle knooppunt data van surveys.
> >>
> >> Mvg,
> >> Sander
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Talk-it] OSMAnd+ in offerta su G play

[Federico Cortese]

2015-12-16 11:29 GMT+01:00 Leonardo Frassetto :
> Grazie della segnalazione! 0,10€ è un po pochino per una applicazione così
> utile, avrei preferito che la mettessero ad 1€, per ringraziare gli
> sviluppatori.

Hai ragione, anche io ho pensato la stessa cosa.

Ciao
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Voies récentes dans Fantoir, absentes d'OSM

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

> De: "lenny.libre" 
> 
> J'ai un petit soucis avec la dernière ligne du bas de la page, elle
> est cachée par le bas de page, faisant référence à la licence
> "Données OpenStreetMap : © les Contributeurs d'OpenStreetMap Licence
> ODbL - Données FANTOIR : © 2015 Ministère de l'Économie et des
> Finances (DGFiP) - Licence LO/OL"

Oops en effet.
Merci, c'est noté.

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Simone Cortesi]

2015-12-16 9:38 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
>
> Segnalo che http://taginfo.openstreetmap.it è andato online (diciamo si
> tratta di una versione beta). Ci sono 20 istanze di taginfo, una per
> regione, ma non c'è una versione dell'Italia completa, perché il nostro
> server non ce la fa (RAM insufficiente). Le regioni sono come da
> http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/italia_osm.html quindi leggermente
> più grandi delle regioni politiche (potete notarlo talvolta sulle mappe
> create). Il server si dovrebbe aggiornare giornalmente, in alto a destra
> potete vedere la data dell'attuale estratto.

la macchina in questione è una macchina un po' scassata, è mia
(privata, non di wikimedia italia o di wikimedia foundation), e
vecchiotta, giacchè che non la utilizzavo più ho deciso di renderla
disponibile a Martin per questa prova.

potrei vedere se si può, pagando, fare un upgrade.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Voies récentes dans Fantoir, absentes d'OSM

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

> De: "Donat ROBAUX" 
> 
> Oh super! merci beaucoup Vincent. Tu m'enlèves une bonne épine du
> pied. ;)

;)

> Puisque c'est bientôt Noël, est-ce possible d'envisager un tri par
> code INSEE également?

Je vais regarder pour utiliser les mêmes tableaux que pour les listings 
FANTOIR, qu'on peut trier dans tous les sens. Mais ça ne changera pas la 
population du tableau, qui reste la sélection des voies inconnues les plus 
récentes.

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Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione

[Alessandro]

Il 16/12/2015 12:03, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:

2015-12-16 11:52 GMT+01:00 Aury88 :


non dovrebbe avere anche il collegamento alla pagina copyright di osm oltre
che a quella di leaflet?


no, è solo una best practice




Eh no. Una cosa è LeafLet (chiamiamolo il mezzo di trasporto), un'altra 
l'attribuzione dei contenuti

http://leafletjs.com/reference.html#control-attribution
che è sempre necessaria

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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

[Jachym Cepicky]

Dneska budme s bratry Dubrovskými v Nymburce od 18:00 ladit aktivity
GISMentors, GISHackathon a OSGeo.cz na další. Kdyby měl někdo čas a mohl
dojet do Nymburka, asi bychom se mohli sejít ve větším formátu

případnému zájemci rád pošlu bližší údaje

J

út 15. 12. 2015 v 5:46 odesílatel Marián Kyral  napsal:

> Škoda. Tak třeba příště.
>
> Díky za tip na restauraci. Já mezitím trochu brouzdal po mapě a hledal v
> centru. A že tam těch restaurací je :-D
> A narazil jsem na restauraci s mým oblíbeným pivem - těch asi tady v Praze
> moc nebude: http://peronsmichov.cz/
>
> Vyhovuje, nebo chcete něco méně hořkého? (i když dnes už to prý není to co
> to bývalo)
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: Jiří Sedláček 
>
>
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
>
> Datum: 15. 12. 2015 1:55:20
>
>
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha
>
> Nakonec nemůžu, neboť ten večer se koná (jak jsem zjistil) i vánoční
> setkání brněnské Wikikomunity - ale dobrá restaurace - třeba u Dobré
> Myšlenky (http://www.dobramyslenka.cz/) - mezi Výtoní a Palackého nám. Je
> tam poměrně klid, mají tam dobré jídlo, většinou je i poměrně v pohodě
> obsluha.
>
> J.
>
> 2015-12-14 7:50 GMT+01:00 Marián Kyral :
>
> Dva týdny uplynuly a dle všeho je ideální termín tato středa, 16.12. v
> 18:00.
> Prosím všechny o revizi své účasti, ať víme, kolik nás skotečně nakonec
> bude a tip na vhodnou restauraci.
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: Marián Kyral 
> Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
> Datum: 25. 11. 2015 22:11:08
> Předmět: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha
>
> Ahoj,
> vánoce se pomalu, ale jistě blíží, co takhle zkusit ještě jedno OSM pivko?
>
> http://doodle.com/poll/xygiab522kee4r29
>
> Návrhy na vhodnou, ideálně nezakouřenou, restauraci vítány.
>
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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

segnalo che ho introdotto un'altro feature: acanto alle mappe adesso si
vede anche la mappa globale per paragonare. Ho copiato l'idea da taginfo.ie
perché mi sembrava molto utile...

Ciao,
Martin

2015-12-16 12:43 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :

>
> 2015-12-16 10:49 GMT+01:00 Cascafico Giovanni :
>
>> É possibile evitare l'uso delle porte? Il proxy mi blocca tutto quello
>> che non é 80…
>> Chessó... un reverse proxy?
>>
>
>
> è sicuramente possibile, ma non so come ;-)
> Forse con apache mod rewrite?
>
> Le pagine sono passenger (un modulo apache per avere siti ruby), se mi
> dici cosa devo fare lo faccio...
>
> Ciao,
> Martin
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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

[Marián Kyral]

Mimochodem,
co to je za klíč ten real_ale?  http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3693084058

Kvasnicové pivo?

Marián


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Od: Marián Kyral 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 16. 12. 2015 13:53:17
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"
Neutíkám, jen to tam náhodou znám ;-)
Lužiny můžou být - je to o dvě zastávky blíž do centra :-D

Marián


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Od: Petr Morávek [Xificurk] 
Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 16. 12. 2015 13:47:56
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"Dne 16.12.2015 v 13:35 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> Tak perén má dnes plně obsazeno, k Dobré myšlence se mi nedaří se dovolat.
> Nějaký jiný tip? Nebo se jen někde sejdeme a zkusíme štěstí? Jsme jen
> čtyři (možná méně).
> 
> Případně, pokud nevadí Stodůlky - restaurace Maják - tam to znám a
> nějaký stůl se tam většinou najde:
> http://www.restaurantmajak.cz
> 
> Marián

Ahoj,

když už utíkáš do těchto částí města, tak přihodím alternativu:
http://www.pivovar-luziny.cz/
Nekuřácké prostory, stůl pro 4 by se takhle v týdnu taky měl snad najít
i bez rezervace.

Petr Morávek aka Xificurk

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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

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>> É possibile evitare l'uso delle porte? Il proxy mi blocca tutto quello
che non é 80…
>> Chessó... un reverse proxy?
>
> è sicuramente possibile, ma non so come ;-)
> Forse con apache mod rewrite?

Non so. Ho dovuto migrare a nginx per riuscirci semplicemente.

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Re: [Talk-it] La Notte dei Mappatori viventi

[Alessandro Palmas]

Ho trovato in rete un video, per i non esperti, che mostra i passi 
principali per utilizzare Josm e il Tasking Manager

https://youtu.be/Jk7jGBXTU5E

Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT

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Re: [Talk-it] OSMAnd+ in offerta su G play

[Max1234Ita]

Federico Cortese wrote
> 2015-12-16 11:29 GMT+01:00 Leonardo Frassetto 

> kinetocore86@

> :
>> Grazie della segnalazione! 0,10€ è un po pochino per una applicazione
>> così
>> utile, avrei preferito che la mettessero ad 1€, per ringraziare gli
>> sviluppatori.
> 
> Hai ragione, anche io ho pensato la stessa cosa.
> 
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Probabilmente devono farsi perdonare il "pastrocchio" fatto con
l'eliminazione dal loro server delle mappe nazionali e degli Address File
indispensabili a chi usa dei set di mappe regionali... :p

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[Talk-it] [Mappatura] Limiti di velocità non segnalati (ma applicati)

[Max1234Ita]

Che si usi il tag /maxspeed=xx/ penso che lo sappiamo quasi tutti... :)

Ma secondo voi come si fa per mappare quelle strade che attravesano"e solite
4-5 case lungo la strada provinciale", dove non ci sono cartelli di sorta ma
s'intende che il limite è di 50 perchè prescritto dal Codice della Strada
nel caso di attraversamento di centro abitato?

Metto maxspeed=50... e poi?  source:maxspeed=Codice della Strada?
Oppure non si mette nulla in quanto non ci sono cartelli?

Altro caso che si applica ad esempio alle Autostrade: come si fa a dire "110
in caso di precipitazioni intense, 50 in caso di nebbia"? E' possibile?

Ciao e grazie,
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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Marcello]

Gran bel lavoro!

Grazie Martin

Ciao
Marcello

Il 16/12/2015 12:45, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:
> segnalo che ho introdotto un'altro feature: acanto alle mappe adesso
> si vede anche la mappa globale per paragonare. Ho copiato l'idea da
> taginfo.ie  perché mi sembrava molto utile...
>
> Ciao,
> Martin
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Re: [Talk-es] [Mapping] Atlas botánico en La Oliva, Sevilla

[Miguel Sevilla-Callejo]

Qué buena idea

Pues si recogéis todos estos datos ya habréis hecho más que lo que hay en
el Jardín Botánico de Kew (uno de los más importantes del Reino Unido):
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3691642934#map=17/51.48175/-0.29016

Y si teneis algo relevante pues a comments=* y listo

Un saludo

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2015-12-16 8:40 GMT+01:00 Moises Arcos :

> Buenos días compis,
>
> este sábado los Geoinquietos de Sevilla colaboraremos en una iniciativa
> promovida por Jane's Walk Sevilla [1] en la que se pretende acercar a los
> vecinos las especies singulares de los jardines de La Oliva.
> Nuestro compromiso es apoyar en las labores de geolocalización de cada una
> de las especies identificadas. Contando con la experiencia de los expertos
> en botánica de la Asociación Amigos de los Jardines de La Oliva [2]
> pretendemos subir a OSM cada una de estas especies, de forma que podamos
> tener un atlas botánico de los jardines.
>
> Nuestra idea es subir por cada árbol los siguientes datos:
> natural=tree
> species='nombre en latín de la especie'
> species:es='nombre común en español de la especie'
> leaf_type=*
>
> ¿Alguna experiencia que podamos tener en cuenta?
> ¿Os parece bien estas etiquetas o añadiríais alguna más que sea importante
> y no la estemos teniendo en cuenta?
>
> Animamos a todo aquel que esté por Sevilla este fin de semana que se
> acerque y que comparta con nosotros esta gran iniciativa que nos permitirá
> acercar OSM a los vecinos.
>
> Toda la info la tenéis en nuestro blog [3]
>
> Un saludo!!!
>
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> [2] https://jardinesdelaoliva.wordpress.com/
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[Talk-it] Ricerche OSM 2015 su Google

[Andrea Lattmann]

Buongiorno,
Per chi fosse interessato e non le ha ancora viste, ci sono online le ricerche 
fatte su Google nel 2015: se cercate OpenStreetMap potrete vedere quanto è 
stato ricercato OSM. Da notare quanti cercano la cartografia OSM per Garmin.
Vi mando link diretto

https://www.google.it/trends/explore#q=OpenStreetMap

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[Talk-es] Libro CIMA2015 con artículo OSM

[Miguel Sevilla-Callejo]

Hola de nuevo,

Hoy parece que se juntan todas las cosas.

Acaba de ser puesto para descarga la publicación que salió del Congreso
Internacional de Montañismo CIMA2015 celebrado en Zaragoza el pasado mes de
marzo y coordinado por Pedro Allueva Torres y José María Nasarre Sarmiento,
cuyo título es "Retos del Montañismo en el s. XXI" y en el que finalmente
aparece el artículo procedente de la comunicación que hicimos sobre
OpenStreetMap en el citado congreso.

Tenéis el libro en la siguiente dirección:
http://issuu.com/bibliotecafedme/docs/retos_monta__a_sigloxxi_cima2015/1?e=1932326%2F31908702

Y nuestro artículo aparece en la página 242 del libro (la 250 del PDF).

La pena es que "me la han vuelto a liar" estos montañeros y, ahora, me han
quitado una ele del apellido... en fin, espero también lo reparen, ya di
cuenta de la errata.

Un saludo y espero que os sea de interés

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre occidentale

[Marc Gemis]

Volgens mij nota's van de meeting in April van dit jaar [1] was het de
bedoeling een cursus op te stellen op een professionele manier. Men
sprak van 60 opleidingsdagen voor personeel en peters en meters
(gescheiden groepen). Volgens mij was (en is) er niemand binnen de
community die dat soort cursus in elkaar kan boxen en die gedurende de
week kan gaan geven.

Dit is van een heel ander niveau dan eventjes een presentatie van een
half uurtje te doen op een mapping party. En zelfs daar vind je amper
kandidaten voor. Het zijn altijd dezelfde personen die opdraven voor
zulke opdrachten.

Ik zie me natuurlijk graag gecorrigeerd op dit punt.

mvg

m




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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch down?

[Steve Doerr]

On 16/12/2015 13:43, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:

Is it just me or is the OSM's built-in potlatch editor not currently working?

It loads and the editing functions all seem to work fine, but every
time I press save on the "Save Changes" dialog box, I get an the
message "Error creating changeset", and nothing is saved.




Same here!

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[OSM-talk-fr] [Emploi] CDD cartographie indoor dans OSM

[Frédéric Bonifas]

Bonjour à tous,

Makina Corpus vient de publier une offre de CDD de cartographie indoor dans
OSM : http://makina-corpus.com/offres-d-emploi/expert-openstreetmap

Frédéric

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Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

[Marián Kyral]

OK,
takže 18:00 plus mínus autobus Pivovar Lužiny.

Marián


-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Marián Kyral 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 16. 12. 2015 13:53:17
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"
Neutíkám, jen to tam náhodou znám ;-)
Lužiny můžou být - je to o dvě zastávky blíž do centra :-D

Marián


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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 16. 12. 2015 13:47:56
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OSM Hospoda Praha

"Dne 16.12.2015 v 13:35 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> Tak perén má dnes plně obsazeno, k Dobré myšlence se mi nedaří se dovolat.
> Nějaký jiný tip? Nebo se jen někde sejdeme a zkusíme štěstí? Jsme jen
> čtyři (možná méně).
> 
> Případně, pokud nevadí Stodůlky - restaurace Maják - tam to znám a
> nějaký stůl se tam většinou najde:
> http://www.restaurantmajak.cz
> 
> Marián

Ahoj,

když už utíkáš do těchto částí města, tak přihodím alternativu:
http://www.pivovar-luziny.cz/
Nekuřácké prostory, stůl pro 4 by se takhle v týdnu taky měl snad najít
i bez rezervace.

Petr Morávek aka Xificurk

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten West-Vlaanderen Cyclisme Flandre occidentale

[Sander Deryckere]

Op 16 december 2015 15:27 schreef Marc Portier :

> Sorry voor de falende list-etiquette van het niet inpikken op de lopende
> thread
> (ben pas heraangemeld, en heb dus de vorige mails niet om op te replyen)
> Dus enkel de subject komt overeen :)
>
> Bedankt voor het uitgebreide antwoord, en je mail is goed terechtgekomen
hier ;)


>
> Sta eigenlijk op punt om 3w op verlof te gaan, maar wou toch paar
> opmerkingen/misvattingen wegnemen. Veel dialoog zit er _nu_ dus bij mij
> niet in, ik pik graag weer op na 11/1/2016
>
>
> Alvast wat ik uit de thread haalde en wou rechtzetten/verduidelijken:
>
>
> 1- de print-beperking op de route-data van TVL
>
> >> Die is eigenlijk de facto al van de baan.  Formeel zullen de licenties
> met de data jaargang 2016 ook als dusdanig worden aangepast.  ToerismeVla
> is druk bezig, ook met een open data platform, geef die mannen wat tijd :)
>
> Ja we blijven vanuit de provincie ook kaarten maken en verkopen, en dat
> dient ook echt om een deel van de investering terugbetaald te krijgen.  We
> blijven er hard werk in stoppen om daar een nuttig navigatie-instrument en
> een prachtig geschenk van te maken.
>
> Ondanks open data en electronische navigatie hopen we dat er een markt
> voor blijft. Ouwbollig voorbijgestreefd of klassiek tijdloos is een dunne
> lijn :)
>
> Er is zeker nog plaats voor papieren kaarten wat mij betreft. Zeker als ze
goed gemaakt zijn. Het probleem is momenteel een puur licentietechnisch
probleem. Het is wettelijk mogelijk om OSM data af te printen, en die
prints te verkopen. Dus data die dat verbied kunnen we er niet invoegen. Ik
denk niet dat er iemand momenteel van plan is om die kaarten van OSM data
te verkopen, zeker als jullie kaarten een degelijke prijs/kwaliteit
verhouding hebben.


> Op een gelijkaaridg filosofisch plan: Trouwens de
> innovatie-adapt-disrupt-stress draait zich nu msch om naar de techneueten?
> Is alles hermappen in OSM niet een onnodig werkje als de bron al in open
> data aanlevert?  Zou men vanuit OSM niet beter nadenken over het inplugbaar
> maken van externe open bronnen zonder alles te moeten overtekenen in de
> eigen database?
>
> OSM heeft (zoals wikipedia), twee filosofieën. De eerste is open data
(waar de overheden nu ook veel meer in meestappen), de tweede is
direct-bewerkbare data. Als iemand een fout ziet in OSM moet hij die direct
kunnen bewerken, zonder eerst een administrative procedure te doorlopen.
Die filosofie is natuurlijk niet bruikbaar bij een bedrijf zoals dat van
jullie, of bij eender welke overheid. Het enige dat we kunnen doen is de
data op een min-of-meer automatische manier vergelijken, en zo fouten in
één van de databronnen vinden.


> 2- er zijn niet veel knopen in WestVlaanderen die verwijderd worden, er
> komen er vooral bij
>
> >> klopt, maar de duivel zit in de details: bijna alle knopen veranderen
> ook van nummer.  Dus je gaat er echt wel veel moeten nakijken ben ik bang.
>
> Door de drastische schaal van ons huidig project hebben we meteen ook die
> vrijheid genomen.  Waar de nummers in het verleden vanuit de losse pols
> werden toegekend, hebben we dat nu wat mechanisch/algoritmischer
> aangepakt.  De hoofredenering is dat we maar 1-99 nummers hebben voor 1200
> knopen, en dat het eruit volgende herbruik van nummers nu aan veel meer
> voorwaarden voldoet:
>   - herbruik histogram vervlakt --> meer spreiding van alle nummers die
> even vaak in gebruik zijn (met wat algotime-vrijheid-uitzonderingen)
>   - een nummer wordt niet hergebruikt binnen een straal van X (ik dacht
> 15k)
>   - nummers worden zo toegekend dat elke verbinging tussen 2 nrs door die
> 2 nrs uniek identificeerbaar is (dus als je straks aan een knoop-bord staat
> zal minstens 1 van de andere vermelde nummers je eenduidig zeggen waar in
> west-vlaanderen je bent)
>
> Da's interessant (en lastig voor ons tergelijkertijd). Het betekend dus
dat we na de winter enkel de locaties en geometrie van de routes
grotendeels kunnen behouden. Dan zou het idd wel beter zijn om de nieuwe
punten die we nu al vinden een nieuwe tag te geven.

>
>
> 3- updates en controles
>
> ik ben geen expert in dit soort dingen, maar ik kan me inbeelden dat het
> zou handig zijn als de geometrische objecten in osm makkelijk plaats geven
> voor iets als "geverifieerd als nog steeds correct op -MM-DD" door
> gebruiker xyz --> nodes hebben nu enkel een timestamp als je echt iets
> aanpast zeker?
>
> naast die algemene opmerking kun je natuurlijk specifiek iets voorzien
> voor het werk aan de herziening van het fietsnetwerk nu
>
> Het probleem is ook dat je niet altijd alles contoleerd. Stel dat er een
winkel op een bepaalde locatie is getagd, met openingsuren. Dan passeer je
en controleer je vluchtig dat die winkel er nog is, maar kijk je niet als
de openingsuren nog kloppen. Dan kan je geen timestamp op dat object
zetten. En een timestamp per soort waarde lijkt me wat overkill. Daarnaast
zorgt de willekeurige controle ook voor het 

Re: [Talk-es] [Mapping] Atlas botánico en La Oliva, Sevilla

[Moises Arcos]

Ya hicimos una primera aproximación con un grupo de ciudadanos durante la I
Mapping Party de Sevilla [1], que los mandamos al Parque Amate para que
tomaran datos sobre las especies que habían, pero esta vez queremos un poco
más de información y más estandarizada, como los campos que antes comentaba.

El resultado lo puedes ver en OSM [2].

La verdad que es una información muy valiosa que puede dar mucho juego si
está en OSM y acercar a los mapas a otros tipos de colectivos que
usualmente no están tan conectados como nosotros.
Al fin y al cabo lo que queremos conseguir con el evento es plantar una
semillita en cada participante de lo qué es OSM, para que lo conozcan y lo
divulguen.

Un saludo!!!

[1] https://mappingpartysevilla.wordpress.com/
[2] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/di9

El 16 de diciembre de 2015, 16:10, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo <
msevill...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Qué buena idea
>
> Pues si recogéis todos estos datos ya habréis hecho más que lo que hay en
> el Jardín Botánico de Kew (uno de los más importantes del Reino Unido):
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3691642934#map=17/51.48175/-0.29016
>
> Y si teneis algo relevante pues a comments=* y listo
>
> Un saludo
>
> *[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
> *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
> *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
> Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
> the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
> Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
> Professional Association of Geographers
> Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo
>
> 2015-12-16 8:40 GMT+01:00 Moises Arcos :
>
>> Buenos días compis,
>>
>> este sábado los Geoinquietos de Sevilla colaboraremos en una iniciativa
>> promovida por Jane's Walk Sevilla [1] en la que se pretende acercar a los
>> vecinos las especies singulares de los jardines de La Oliva.
>> Nuestro compromiso es apoyar en las labores de geolocalización de cada
>> una de las especies identificadas. Contando con la experiencia de los
>> expertos en botánica de la Asociación Amigos de los Jardines de La Oliva
>> [2] pretendemos subir a OSM cada una de estas especies, de forma que
>> podamos tener un atlas botánico de los jardines.
>>
>> Nuestra idea es subir por cada árbol los siguientes datos:
>> natural=tree
>> species='nombre en latín de la especie'
>> species:es='nombre común en español de la especie'
>> leaf_type=*
>>
>> ¿Alguna experiencia que podamos tener en cuenta?
>> ¿Os parece bien estas etiquetas o añadiríais alguna más que sea
>> importante y no la estemos teniendo en cuenta?
>>
>> Animamos a todo aquel que esté por Sevilla este fin de semana que se
>> acerque y que comparta con nosotros esta gran iniciativa que nos permitirá
>> acercar OSM a los vecinos.
>>
>> Toda la info la tenéis en nuestro blog [3]
>>
>> Un saludo!!!
>>
>> [1] http://www.janeswalksevilla.com/
>> [2] https://jardinesdelaoliva.wordpress.com/
>> [3] http://geoinquietos.blogspot.com.es/2015/12/atlasbotanicolaoliva.html
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Re: [Talk-es] [Mapping] Atlas botánico en La Oliva, Sevilla

[María Arias de Reyna]

2015-12-16 16:20 GMT+01:00 Moises Arcos :

> Ya hicimos una primera aproximación con un grupo de ciudadanos durante la
> I Mapping Party de Sevilla [1], que los mandamos al Parque Amate para que
> tomaran datos sobre las especies que habían, pero esta vez queremos un poco
> más de información y más estandarizada, como los campos que antes comentaba.
>
> El resultado lo puedes ver en OSM [2].
>
> La verdad que es una información muy valiosa que puede dar mucho juego si
> está en OSM y acercar a los mapas a otros tipos de colectivos que
> usualmente no están tan conectados como nosotros.
> Al fin y al cabo lo que queremos conseguir con el evento es plantar una
> semillita en cada participante de lo qué es OSM, para que lo conozcan y lo
> divulguen.
>
> Un saludo!!!
>
> [1] https://mappingpartysevilla.wordpress.com/
> [2] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/di9
>
>

Jamás olvidaré esa mapeada. Menudo trabajo nos metimos. Y lo bonito que era
ver de pronto el parque lleno de árboles en osm... :D


>
> El 16 de diciembre de 2015, 16:10, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo <
> msevill...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
>> Qué buena idea
>>
>> Pues si recogéis todos estos datos ya habréis hecho más que lo que hay en
>> el Jardín Botánico de Kew (uno de los más importantes del Reino Unido):
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3691642934#map=17/51.48175/-0.29016
>>
>> Y si teneis algo relevante pues a comments=* y listo
>>
>> Un saludo
>>
>> *[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
>> *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
>> *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
>> Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
>> the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
>> Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
>> Professional Association of Geographers
>> Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo
>>
>> 2015-12-16 8:40 GMT+01:00 Moises Arcos :
>>
>>> Buenos días compis,
>>>
>>> este sábado los Geoinquietos de Sevilla colaboraremos en una iniciativa
>>> promovida por Jane's Walk Sevilla [1] en la que se pretende acercar a los
>>> vecinos las especies singulares de los jardines de La Oliva.
>>> Nuestro compromiso es apoyar en las labores de geolocalización de cada
>>> una de las especies identificadas. Contando con la experiencia de los
>>> expertos en botánica de la Asociación Amigos de los Jardines de La Oliva
>>> [2] pretendemos subir a OSM cada una de estas especies, de forma que
>>> podamos tener un atlas botánico de los jardines.
>>>
>>> Nuestra idea es subir por cada árbol los siguientes datos:
>>> natural=tree
>>> species='nombre en latín de la especie'
>>> species:es='nombre común en español de la especie'
>>> leaf_type=*
>>>
>>> ¿Alguna experiencia que podamos tener en cuenta?
>>> ¿Os parece bien estas etiquetas o añadiríais alguna más que sea
>>> importante y no la estemos teniendo en cuenta?
>>>
>>> Animamos a todo aquel que esté por Sevilla este fin de semana que se
>>> acerque y que comparta con nosotros esta gran iniciativa que nos permitirá
>>> acercar OSM a los vecinos.
>>>
>>> Toda la info la tenéis en nuestro blog [3]
>>>
>>> Un saludo!!!
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.janeswalksevilla.com/
>>> [2] https://jardinesdelaoliva.wordpress.com/
>>> [3]
>>> http://geoinquietos.blogspot.com.es/2015/12/atlasbotanicolaoliva.html
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[Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Bob Hawkins]

I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and love 
of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project is to 
improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and Chiltern 
Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on Oxfordshire and 
Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.  Their local authorities 
make available downloads of their Public Rights of Way and I have Ordnance 
Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.  It would be most useful to 
have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.  I have searched the internet 
and cannot find such a file to download.  I communicated with Lucy Murfett, 
Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation Board and received this reply:

Dear Bob,

Thanks for your message and great that you are able to give your time to 
improving this map resource. I am attaching an AONB boundary map with an OS 
base.

I love using GIS but I’m afraid I am not knowledgeable about how to share 
layers or know whether we have permission to do this. Have you tried accessing 
the AONB boundary on the Government’s websites:

http://www.magic.gov.uk/ or  
https://data.gov.uk/data/map-preview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geostore.com%2FOGC%2FOGCInterface%3FSERVICE%3DWMS%26UID%3DUDATAGOV2011%26PASSWORD%3Ddatagov2011%26INTERFACE%3DENVIRONMENT%26LC%3D8000n=55.816w=-6.236e=2.072s=49.943

Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a digital 
file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?


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Re: [Talk-it] [Mappatura] Limiti di velocità non segnalati (ma applicati)

[Andrea Albani]

Per il codice della strada un centro abitato è una cosa ben definita (vedi
[1] art. 3 punto 8) ed è essenzialmente identificato dagli appositi
cartelli.
Quindi se questi non ci sono io non metterei il limite a 50.

Per il limite variabile in funzione del tempo atmosferico penso che
maxspeed:wet o maxspeed:fog come documentato in [2] possa andare bene
(magari fai un check su taginfo)

[1] http://www.altalex.com/documents/news/2014/02/27/disposizioni-generali
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions

Il giorno 16 dicembre 2015 16:15, Max1234Ita  ha
scritto:

> Che si usi il tag /maxspeed=xx/ penso che lo sappiamo quasi tutti... :)
>
> Ma secondo voi come si fa per mappare quelle strade che attravesano"e
> solite
> 4-5 case lungo la strada provinciale", dove non ci sono cartelli di sorta
> ma
> s'intende che il limite è di 50 perchè prescritto dal Codice della Strada
> nel caso di attraversamento di centro abitato?
>
> Metto maxspeed=50... e poi?  source:maxspeed=Codice della Strada?
> Oppure non si mette nulla in quanto non ci sono cartelli?
>
> Altro caso che si applica ad esempio alle Autostrade: come si fa a dire
> "110
> in caso di precipitazioni intense, 50 in caso di nebbia"? E' possibile?
>
> Ciao e grazie,
> Max
>
>
>
> --
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> Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: [Talk-es] Conferencia de Miguel Sevilla en la web de la FMM

[Miguel Sevilla-Callejo]

Hola,

Respecto a la disponibilidad de asistir a la charla que voy a dar me
indican lo siguiente:


(...)

Hemos enviado un correo a todos los clubes y profesores de la escuela
madrileña de alta montaña. estos dos grupos tendrán un plazo preferente de
inscripción hasta el 22 de diciembre. Desde esa fecha, si quedasen plazas
disponibles, abriríamos al resto de los federados hasta completar el aforo
d 45 personas.



Todas las plazas van con inscripción previa desde nuestra plataforma.

Esta es la plataforma que hemos creado.


http://www.fmm.es/noticias-montana/generales/item/1690-conferencia-open-street-map-29-diciembre

---

Aún no me han contestado con lo de la corrección del nombre.

Un saludo

Miguel


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*Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
*Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
Professional Association of Geographers
Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo

2015-12-16 10:20 GMT+01:00 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo :

> Cierto
> Os aseguro que no tengo que ver nada con la OMS... aún disfruto de un buen
> embutido a pesar de sus amenazas
> :-P
>
> *[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
> *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
> *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
> Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
> the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
> Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
> Professional Association of Geographers
> Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo
>
> 2015-12-16 10:01 GMT+01:00 Iván Sánchez :
>
>> El Miércoles 16. diciembre 2015 09.58.51 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo escribió:
>> > Voy a escribirles de nuevo... aunque solo sea para comentarles que
>> > OpenStreetMap se escribe todo junto :-P
>>
>> Y lo de "OMS", por el amor del monstruo de espagueti...
>>
>> --
>> Iván Sánchez Ortega  
>> 
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Re: [Talk-es] Conferencia de Miguel Sevilla en la web de la FMM

[Miguel Sevilla-Callejo]

No hay mal que por bien no venga... No estaba editada la oficina de la FMM
ni la calle donde está.

Ya lo hice [1], pero me queda la duda en la etiqueta si la FMM debería de
ir como asociación o hay alguna otra etiqueta específica.

[1]
http://www.openstreetmap.org/query?lat=40.48582=-3.68397#map=19/40.48606/-3.68265

Un saludo

*[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
*Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
*Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
Professional Association of Geographers
Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo

2015-12-16 11:42 GMT+01:00 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo :

> Hola,
>
> Respecto a la disponibilidad de asistir a la charla que voy a dar me
> indican lo siguiente:
>
>
> (...)
>
> Hemos enviado un correo a todos los clubes y profesores de la escuela
> madrileña de alta montaña. estos dos grupos tendrán un plazo preferente de
> inscripción hasta el 22 de diciembre. Desde esa fecha, si quedasen plazas
> disponibles, abriríamos al resto de los federados hasta completar el aforo
> d 45 personas.
>
>
>
> Todas las plazas van con inscripción previa desde nuestra plataforma.
>
> Esta es la plataforma que hemos creado.
>
>
>
> http://www.fmm.es/noticias-montana/generales/item/1690-conferencia-open-street-map-29-diciembre
>
> ---
>
> Aún no me han contestado con lo de la corrección del nombre.
>
> Un saludo
>
> Miguel
>
>
> *[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
> *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
> *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
> Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
> the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
> Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
> Professional Association of Geographers
> Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo
>
> 2015-12-16 10:20 GMT+01:00 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo :
>
>> Cierto
>> Os aseguro que no tengo que ver nada con la OMS... aún disfruto de un
>> buen embutido a pesar de sus amenazas
>> :-P
>>
>> *[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
>> *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
>> *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
>> Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
>> the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
>> Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
>> Professional Association of Geographers
>> Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo
>>
>> 2015-12-16 10:01 GMT+01:00 Iván Sánchez :
>>
>>> El Miércoles 16. diciembre 2015 09.58.51 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo escribió:
>>> > Voy a escribirles de nuevo... aunque solo sea para comentarles que
>>> > OpenStreetMap se escribe todo junto :-P
>>>
>>> Y lo de "OMS", por el amor del monstruo de espagueti...
>>>
>>> --
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>>> 
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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Federico Cortese]

2015-12-16 9:38 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
>
> Segnalo che http://taginfo.openstreetmap.it è andato online

Grazie Martin, ottimo lavoro!

Ciao
Federico

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Re: [Talk-es] Conferencia de Miguel Sevilla en la web de la FMM

[Miguel Sevilla-Callejo]

Efectivamente en ese edificios de oficinas estan la mayor parte de las
federaciones deportivas de la comunidad.
Para la FMM puse primero oficina, luego me convenció Alejandro para poner
club=sport... pero ahora no se que poner, la verdad.
¿Alguien se anima a documentarse más allá de lo que hicimos?
Estaría genial poner las demás federaciones también. ¿En un mismo punto?
Lo ideal, sería, si alguien conoce el lugar y si es plenamente todo para
las federaciones, incluir directamente el edificio y etiquetarlo
convenientemente, no?
Un saludo

*[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
*Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
*Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
Professional Association of Geographers
Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo

2015-12-16 13:29 GMT+01:00 Luis García Castro :

>
> El 16 de diciembre de 2015, 12:22, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo <
> msevill...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
>> No estaba editada la oficina de la FMM ni la calle donde está.
>
>
> Pues vaya... tengo entendido que ese edificio es de la Comunidad y allí
> hay un porrón de federaciones deportivas madrileñas.
>
> --
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione

[Luca Delucchi]

2015-12-16 10:22 GMT+01:00 Cascafico Giovanni :
>> http://partecipazionepprfvg.gis3w.it
>
> Benissimo. Credo sia stata la risoluzione piú veloce finora :-)
>
> OT..  posso inserire i POI in OSM?
>

non lo so... se vuoi chiedo, ma magari chi ha creato il portale non
necessariamente sa la licenza dei dati sopra


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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2015-12-16 10:49 GMT+01:00 Cascafico Giovanni :

> É possibile evitare l'uso delle porte? Il proxy mi blocca tutto quello che
> non é 80…
> Chessó... un reverse proxy?
>


è sicuramente possibile, ma non so come ;-)
Forse con apache mod rewrite?

Le pagine sono passenger (un modulo apache per avere siti ruby), se mi dici
cosa devo fare lo faccio...

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[Talk-es] Etiquetado de asociaciones deportivas y federaciones era "Conferencia de Miguel Sevilla en la web de la FMM"

[Alejandro S.]

Hola,

Pues para etiquetar federaciones no lo tengo muy claro, ¿tal vez al ser una
cosa oficial vaya como office=*? Para club deportivos yo he utilizado
club=sport y sport=* como en este nodo [0]

Atentamente,
  Alejandro Suárez

[0]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2353819405

2015-12-16 12:22 GMT+01:00 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo :

> No hay mal que por bien no venga... No estaba editada la oficina de la FMM
> ni la calle donde está.
>
> Ya lo hice [1], pero me queda la duda en la etiqueta si la FMM debería de
> ir como asociación o hay alguna otra etiqueta específica.
>
> [1]
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/query?lat=40.48582=-3.68397#map=19/40.48606/-3.68265
>
> Un saludo
>
> *[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
> *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
> *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
> Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
> the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
> Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
> Professional Association of Geographers
> Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo
>
> 2015-12-16 11:42 GMT+01:00 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo :
>
>> Hola,
>>
>> Respecto a la disponibilidad de asistir a la charla que voy a dar me
>> indican lo siguiente:
>>
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> Hemos enviado un correo a todos los clubes y profesores de la escuela
>> madrileña de alta montaña. estos dos grupos tendrán un plazo preferente de
>> inscripción hasta el 22 de diciembre. Desde esa fecha, si quedasen plazas
>> disponibles, abriríamos al resto de los federados hasta completar el aforo
>> d 45 personas.
>>
>>
>>
>> Todas las plazas van con inscripción previa desde nuestra plataforma.
>>
>> Esta es la plataforma que hemos creado.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.fmm.es/noticias-montana/generales/item/1690-conferencia-open-street-map-29-diciembre
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Aún no me han contestado con lo de la corrección del nombre.
>>
>> Un saludo
>>
>> Miguel
>>
>>
>> *[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
>> *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
>> *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
>> Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at
>> the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
>> Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
>> Professional Association of Geographers
>> Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo
>>
>> 2015-12-16 10:20 GMT+01:00 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo :
>>
>>> Cierto
>>> Os aseguro que no tengo que ver nada con la OMS... aún disfruto de un
>>> buen embutido a pesar de sus amenazas
>>> :-P
>>>
>>> *[image: Geo]Miguel Sevilla Callejo*
>>> *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography*
>>> *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant & Researcher*
>>>
>>> Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow
>>> at the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council
>>> Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish
>>> Professional Association of Geographers
>>> Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo
>>>
>>> 2015-12-16 10:01 GMT+01:00 Iván Sánchez :
>>>
 El Miércoles 16. diciembre 2015 09.58.51 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo
 escribió:
 > Voy a escribirles de nuevo... aunque solo sea para comentarles que
 > OpenStreetMap se escribe todo junto :-P

 Y lo de "OMS", por el amor del monstruo de espagueti...

 --
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Re: [Talk-es] Conferencia de Miguel Sevilla en la web de la FMM

[Luis García Castro]

El 16 de diciembre de 2015, 12:22, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo <
msevill...@gmail.com> escribió:

> No estaba editada la oficina de la FMM ni la calle donde está.


Pues vaya... tengo entendido que ese edificio es de la Comunidad y allí hay
un porrón de federaciones deportivas madrileñas.

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Re: [Talk-de] Karten für Flüchtlinge - Sprache Legende Kartenstyle

[Markus]

@ alle:

Am 06.12.2015 um 22:57 schrieb Richard:
> Arabisch für Karten für Flüchtlinge finde ich ein nogo.

Flüchtlinge müssen Deutsch lernen.
Das ist eine Schlüsselqualifikation für ihre Zukunft hier.

*Immersion* ist der Fachbegriff:
*alles in Deutsch* !
- miteinander reden
- hören
- sprechen
- lesen
- schreiben
je mehr und je öfter desto besser :-)

Also auch:
- deutscher Kartenstyle
- deutsche Legende

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_(Sprachwissenschaft_und_Erziehung)

Mit herzlichem Gruss,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch down?

[Richard Fairhurst]

Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
> Is it just me or is the OSM's built-in potlatch editor not currently
> working?

Should be fixed now. TomH identified that a Passenger upgrade caused
requests to break, though exactly why isn't yet clear...

Richard




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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Paul Berry]

Bob,

I can't offer any specific advice myself but it might be worthwhile
contacting the original creators of the AONBs that have already been mapped
on OSM to see if they can offer any specific advice on how they came by
their datasets.

Steve_NI
Dashers
UniEagle
jochta

User jochta has mapped the North Wessex Downs AONB which I understand
shares a boundary with the Chilterns AONB so you might start with them :)

Existing AONB relations are here:
http://ra.osmsurround.org/searchRelation?name=aonb

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Paul Berry

On 16 December 2015 at 15:36, Bob Hawkins  wrote:

> I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and
> love of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project
> is to improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and
> Chiltern Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on
> Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.
> Their local authorities make available downloads of their Public Rights of
> Way and I have Ordnance Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.
> It would be most useful to have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.
> I have searched the internet and cannot find such a file to download.  I
> communicated with Lucy Murfett, Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation
> Board and received this reply:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> Thanks for your message and great that you are able to give your time to
> improving this map resource. I am attaching an AONB boundary map with an OS
> base.
>
> I love using GIS but I’m afraid I am not knowledgeable about how to share
> layers or know whether we have permission to do this. Have you tried
> accessing the AONB boundary on the Government’s websites:
>
> http://www.magic.gov.uk/ or
> https://data.gov.uk/data/map-preview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geostore.com%2FOGC%2FOGCInterface%3FSERVICE%3DWMS%26UID%3DUDATAGOV2011%26PASSWORD%3Ddatagov2011%26INTERFACE%3DENVIRONMENT%26LC%3D8000n=55.816w=-6.236e=2.072s=49.943
>
> Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a digital
> file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?
>
> 
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Re: [Talk-de] Karten für Flüchtlinge - Sprache Legende Kartenstyle

[Volker Schmidt]

Also einer, der mehrfach das Land gewechselt hat, würde ich sagen, dass die
Idealloesung eine zweisprachige oder umschaltbare Karte waere.
On 16 Dec 2015 4:51 pm, "Markus"  wrote:

> @ alle:
>
> Am 06.12.2015 um 22:57 schrieb Richard:
> > Arabisch für Karten für Flüchtlinge finde ich ein nogo.
>
> Flüchtlinge müssen Deutsch lernen.
> Das ist eine Schlüsselqualifikation für ihre Zukunft hier.
>
> *Immersion* ist der Fachbegriff:
> *alles in Deutsch* !
> - miteinander reden
> - hören
> - sprechen
> - lesen
> - schreiben
> je mehr und je öfter desto besser :-)
>
> Also auch:
> - deutscher Kartenstyle
> - deutsche Legende
>
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_(Sprachwissenschaft_und_Erziehung)
>
> Mit herzlichem Gruss,
> Markus
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[Talk-in] Mapillary Ambassador Program

[srinivas kodali]

For those of you are in interested, Mapillary has announced an ambassador
program. Deadline is Friday, 18th Dec.

http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2015/12/11/ambassador-program-applications.html


Regards,
Srinivas Kodali
www.lostprogrammer.com
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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch down?

[Steve Doerr]

On 16/12/2015 15:57, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:

Is it just me or is the OSM's built-in potlatch editor not currently
working?

Should be fixed now. TomH identified that a Passenger upgrade caused
requests to break, though exactly why isn't yet clear...



Thanks. Now working for me and I didn't even lose the edits I'd started.

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Re: [Talk-de] Karten für Flüchtlinge - Sprache Legende Kartenstyle

[Markus]

Hallo Volker,

> zweisprachige oder umschaltbare

Kurzfristig: ja

Die nachhaltige Lösung heisst *Immersion*.

Dadurch lernt man nicht nur die Sprache, sondern durch den Kontakt mit
Einheimischen auch noch gleich kulturspezifische Umgangsformen und
andere Kulturmerkmale.
Und man knüpft Kontakte, und manchmal gewinnt man sogar Freunde :-)

Ich fände sinnvoll, wenn wir sprach-wissenschaftliche Erkenntnisse auch
für unsere Karten entsprechend nutzen.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_(Sprachwissenschaft_und_Erziehung)

Mit herzlichem Gruss,
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Re: [Talk-de] Karten für Flüchtlinge

[Manfred A. Reiter]

Hallo Hartmut,

Am 16. Dezember 2015 um 09:32 schrieb Ralf GESELLENSETTER :

> Hallo Hartmut (offlist) ...
>
> Am 15.12.2015 um 20:51 schrieb Hartmut Holzgraefe:
>
>> Ergebis bisher zB. http://php-groupies.de/umgebungsplan.pdf
>>
>
> gratulation! soweit sind wir noch nicht ganz. Aber die Legende
> mit den numerierten Pins ist optimal!
>
> Evtl.ist die Schrift in den Straßen zu klein (muss ich auf A4 sehen):
>
> Deine Mailadresse steht mehrfach drauf (unten rechts riesig) - und
> ich würde statt "missing something" "anything missing" schreiben.
>
> Aber das ist nur eine Kleinigkeit.
>
> Viele Grüße
> Ralf
>
> PS: Hast du die Unterkünfte (rote Kreise) und die Legend von Hand gemacht?


Toll gemacht! Eine Anleitung, wie Du die Karte gemacht hast, wäre
sicherlich für viele hilfreich. Ich kenne einige, die das gut gebrauchen
können. ;-)

Du gestattest mir (7 Jahre Ausland in ganz Lateinamerika) trotzdem die
Frage warum Transportation und nicht Verkehr (oder ähnliches), Gesundheit,
Einkauf?

Stichwort: Immersion ;-)

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Re: [Talk-de] Karten für Flüchtlinge

[Hartmut Holzgraefe]

Am 16. Dezember 2015 09:43:18 MEZ, schrieb Ralf GESELLENSETTER 
>
>Übrigens: Es gibt einige Icons, die sind nicht skalierbar (z.B. der
>Einkaufswagen), das sieht bei den A4-Plänen wirklich nicht schön aus.
>
>Andere Symbole haben das Problem nicht, meine ich, auf Hartmuts
>Karte aber die meisten (Anhang).

das liegt an dem alten Mapnik-Stil der da noch bei MapOsmatic zum Einsatz 
kommt, 

>Wie kann man Mapsomatic oder Mapnik darun unterstützen,
>skalierbare bzw. höher auflösende Symbole zu verwenden?

nachdem ich das jetzt mit einer aktuelleren Mapnik Vesion als 2.1.0 zun laufen 
bekommen habe sollte es kein Problem mehr sein zB. den aktuellen Carto Stil mit 
SVG Icons zu benutzen


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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo italia

[Maurizio Napolitano]

>
> Segnalo che http://taginfo.openstreetmap.it è andato online (diciamo si
> tratta di una versione beta).

Grande Martin
capisco i limiti, ma comunque si tratta di una bella risorsa.
Puoi aggiungere una pagina di about nella home page con alcune FAQ?
Esempio cosa è, come mai è diviso per regioni, come contribuire, chi
gestisce, frequenza di aggiornamento ecc..

Grazie

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