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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Ajout d'un identifiant unique des cinémas en France

2020-06-08 Per discussione Florian LAINEZ

>
> Dans wikidata il n'y a pas (encore) d'identifiants Allociné ou Cinéday.
> On les ajoute dans wikidata ou dans OSM ?
>
Je dirai sans hésiter wikidata. Ne multiplions pas les identifiants
non-stables dans OSM qui seront dur à maintenir.
Donc je propose de ne mettre dans OSM que les identifiants wikidata et CNC.

Sinon j'ai fait la liste des cinémas qui ont fermés ces 3 dernières années
> selon le CNC :
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:ref:FR:CNC#Cin.C3.A9mas_ferm.C3.A9s
> Je ne sais pas trop comment on peut se servir de ça efficacement ... idées
> bienvenues.
>
Sont-ils encore dans OSM ?
A terme ça pourrait servir à faire une requête des cinés à fermer dans OSM
??

Je ne sais pas s'ils sont encore dans OSM : il faudrait le vérifier
manuellement, sauf, justement, si vous aviez une idée pour semi-automatiser
ça (via OSMOSE ?).

Concernant les cinémas que je n'arrive pas à trouver dans la liste du CNC,
pour l'instant je les ai listés sur la page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:ref:FR:CNC#Exceptions en
attendant de confirmer qu'ils sont introuvables. Dans l'idée c'est pour
leur mettre un tag ref:FR:CNC=no plus tard.

Le lun. 8 juin 2020 à 23:12, Yves P.  a écrit :

> Voici la liste des cinémas en France avec en plus ces identifiants :
> https://w.wiki/TSU
>
>
> Oups, c'est https://w.wiki/TSY
> Il n'y a aucun identifiant Fandango (seulement aux USA ?) et 396
>  cinéma avec un identifiant CinemaTreasure.
>
> Bonne nuit,
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tickets Restaurants et StreetComplete

2020-06-08 Per discussione Guy Godfroy

Est ce que c'est également le cas dans les autres pays utilisant des titres 
restaurant ?



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Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-08 Per discussione 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk


this was solved when someone said you can write your own.

  
>Monday, June 8, 2020 9:35 PM -05:00 from Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
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>On 9/6/20 12:01 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:
>> YES !, i guess what i am saying i would like to see more drop down
>> options.
>
>How many options would you like?
>
>Enough for many pages of options?
>
>Add seasonal, open_hours, description, etc etc?
>
>
>Personally I don't use drop down menus, prefer to tag what I see and
>know rather than be influenced by them. YMMV.
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Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-08 Per discussione Warin


On 9/6/20 12:01 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:
YES !, i guess what i am saying i would like to see more drop down 
options.



How many options would you like?

Enough for many pages of options?

Add seasonal, open_hours, description, etc etc?


Personally I don't use drop down menus, prefer to tag what I see and 
know rather than be influenced by them. YMMV.



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Re: [OSM-talk] fake mapping

2020-06-08 Per discussione Warin


On 9/6/20 8:26 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:
just to be safe i went to a pre-edit location, less than 5 miles 2 
hours by public transportation.
the satellite view was wrong, the river area were ponds because of the 
dam, which was not there in 1969
when we went down the river in cement tubs, and the golf cart paths 
were all marked unmaintained track road.
there are pologons around the greens, holes and fairways not the whole 
property, where natural woods

that have separate pologons.
the point is there is to much there to fix.



So? What is the purpose of this message?




Satellite imagery can be out of date. So? Map the new data and put a 
source statement that says the satellite is out of date and what source 
you used (note cooyright rules!).



There is no need to raise this on the list. Get on with the mapping.




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Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-08 Per discussione ndrw6

On 08/06/2020 21:41, Dorothea Kazazi wrote:

The OSMF board is asking for comments on possible approaches to
resolving controversies related to upgrades to and modifications of the
iD editor. Please read the post by Allan Mustard:
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2020/06/08/toward-resolution-of-controversies-related-to-id/

These are some very strong statements. Questions to Allan:

- Is this an official statement of the whole OSMF board? Who was in
favor of it and who was against?

- Is there any OSMF funding or other support for iD development
involved? If so, can you provide the numbers?

- Has this statement been discussed with and agreed on by Quincy and
other iD authors?

Basically, can you please explain why do you think you should be able to
influence decisions of the iD maintainer without forking the code,
maintaining it yourself and in the end competing with iD on a level
playing field.

For the record (if it wasn't obvious yet) I am strongly against this
idea. I trust iD authors, even if I don't agree with _all_ their
decisions, more than the committee you are proposing. The success of iD
is a proof their vision for the tool development and its feature set are
working very well (perhaps too well, which is why we are having this
discussion). I am concerned that by alienating the authors and forcing
all the ideas they would normally reject, you would be able to inflict a
real damage on iD and, by extension, on OSM.

My suggestion: rather than crippling down a good tool please focus on
improving parts of the ecosystem that are in urgent need of investment.
Official mobile app/editor, the default web map or an infrastructure
that would enable others to use OSM-hosted tiles come to mind.

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