Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

On 24/09/2020 00:00, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Townsend <mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com>> wrote: Paul Jo

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea > wrote: Paul Johnson mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>> wrote: > 2. Tagging route information on ways.  It's about a decade too long at this point for ref=* on a way

Re: [Talk-us] VANDALISM !

On 22/08/2020 02:35, Clay Smalley wrote: For those who aren't following, the DWG recently decided on a two-day ban for the person who posted this, for the exact behavior they're exhibiting right now: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3850 Indeed, and it wasn't done lightly - only

Re: [Talk-us] changeset: 89516909

On 18/08/2020 16:43, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote: i am looking at the TIRGER  web, show’s the real map online and nothing you did matches. Unfortunately, just saying that does not really help.  What URL are you actually looking at?  Under what licence is the data at that URL made

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Edit Attacks

On 10/06/2020 22:41, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote: this is a good one because i had a back and forth discussion with somebody that was calling me out on my edit because from space this looked like a flat surface and then explaned how to list it as non active.

Re: [Talk-us] VANDALISM !

> If efforts to resolve the issue through discussion are unsuccessful perhaps this is an issue for the Data Working Group (DWG)?If this is where I think it is, I believe that I'm already offering advice to a complaint from one side of this dispute.  I think that what happened was that 10 years

[Talk-us] Identifying mappers (was: Re: Taking a break and a call for help)

On 22/03/2020 00:45, brad wrote: How can I tell who is a one-edit-and-done spam, amazon logistics account, and who is a first edit noob? With Amazon, I think all their editors have profiles that say that they're working for Amazon Logistics.  They'll all have relatively high edit counts. 

Re: [Talk-us] Need someone in the south to review an edit

On 14/06/2019 16:56, Paul Johnson wrote: Aaah, OK.  Would have been nice if Brandify Tran replied to changeset comments. With a DWG hat on I'll send them a "message that they have to read before continuing to edit" and ask them to check their registered email account. Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

On 29/04/2019 17:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 29 Apr 2019, 17:36 by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com: On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:24 AM Mateusz Konieczny mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> wrote: Why not simply call anything which is a 'large public area for recreation', a park,

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

On 21/03/2019 07:13, Paul Norman via Talk-us wrote: As a maintainer of some of the projects listed, I find that you're misrepresenting the situation. On 2019-03-08 11:25 a.m., Kevin Kenny wrote: I've sounded out the maintainers of various of the OSM software, and get different assessments.

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

 > tell me which sidewalks need to be mapped (because they are separate geometries, I mean highway=footway, footway=sidewalk) in Graz, Austria Locally I'd do that

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

On 03/03/2019 18:43, Nick Bolten wrote: As I mentioned, I'm aware of hacks regarding sidewalks I wouldn't describe sidewalk=none as a hack - speaking as someone who walks a lot, any verifiable tag that says "you're allowed to, but you probably don't want to walk down this road" is really

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

On 03/03/2019 16:09, Richard Welty wrote: what can/should we be doing about this sort of stuff? i'm really at a bit of a loss here. Aside from the excellent technical suggestion that's already been made, I'd suggest a polite changeset discussion comment, explaining that the imagery that

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing road network in New York — MapRoulette challenge

On 11/02/2019 13:01, Jmapb wrote: On 2/9/2019 9:30 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote: Yesterday I took ~1 mln rides we made in December and matched them to the OSM road network. With that I found a few hundred points where an actual trace diverged from the matched one quite often. This usually means a

Re: [Talk-us] The San Jose / Santa Clara border

Volunteer stevea mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com>> wrote: On Jan 26, 2019, at 4:00 AM, Andy Townsend mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com>> wrote: > A mapper has recently changed this to "cut the corner off" north of the 880 between San Jose airport and Stevens Creek Mall /

[Talk-us] The San Jose / Santa Clara border

A mapper has recently changed this to "cut the corner off" north of the 880 between San Jose airport and Stevens Creek Mall / Westfield Valley Fair.  You can see the change at http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=66619223=18=37.33883=-121.93327=B0TTTFT . Some of this mapper's previous

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone feel like helping another mapper in New York?

On 09/12/2018 18:20, Jmapb wrote: On 12/9/2018 6:38 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: I sent him a message offering to help, but if he doesn't respond to you, I doubt he'll answer me either. Thanks - at least it's not just me trying to talk to them! Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone feel like helping another mapper in New York?

On 23/11/2018 21:24, Andy Townsend wrote (heavily snipped): Hello, Over the last couple of months there have been edits by a new mapper in New York who seems to like changing things but hasn't quite got the hang of what they're doing yet.  ...   Comments can be seen at http://resultmaps.neis

[Talk-us] Anyone feel like helping another mapper in New York?

Hello, Over the last couple of months there have been edits by a new mapper in New York who seems to like changing things but hasn't quite got the hang of what they're doing yet.  Some of the smaller edits seem plausible, but they seem to be doing a lot of "node drags and merges" which

Re: [Talk-us] NYC Name Vandalism

On 06/09/2018 01:56, Alan Brown wrote: ... I suspect the OSM community is not culturally disposed to that form of moderation. So I will ask about a different approach. One thing the OSM community _is_ culturally disposed to is people trying things to see if they work, and in order to do there

[Talk-us] Sidewalks in Austin without any tags

On 25/07/2018 14:12, Bryan Housel wrote: ... Find more productive ways to improve OSM than threatening to delete people’s work. (ahem) Hi Bryan, What I'd normally suggest in a situation like this is that someone comment on some of the problem changesets and offer help and assistance. 

[Talk-us] Amazon Logistics (was: Re: Undiscussed mass-revert by user Nakaner-repair)

Just to let people know who may not already have noticed, a number of these mappers (see for example http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ravsjith *) have an updated profile that says: "I work for Amazon Logistics. At Amazon Logistics, we’ve been utilizing OSM in some cases related to our

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Undiscussed mass-revert by user Nakaner-repair

On 23/04/18 10:54, Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com wrote: ... There are 6-8 new users who just started editing in and around Denver. Circumstantial evidence seems to indicagte they are part of a team in that they all started about the same time, their edits are remarkably similar and they

Re: [Talk-us] Undiscussed mass-revert by user Nakaner-repair

On 20/04/2018 16:13, Ian Dees wrote: Some questions: Was this action made under the auspices of the Data Working Group? No Has the "directed mapping" policy been approved by the OSMF? No, although the refusal to interact with other mappers and the mass creation of sock-puppet accounts

Re: [Talk-us] how can we fix anonymous spam comments

On 27/02/2018 09:10, Badita Florin wrote: This anonymous user is leaving a comment with hundred of You can see an example here https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1257677 I've hidden the original note, since someone's readded the sensible bits of it to

Re: [Talk-us] Rural US: Correcting Original TIGER Imported Ways

On 19/02/2018 22:03, Clifford Snow wrote:  Can I steal your road styles? Sure. BTW - I can't see the difference between a plain residential and a unpaved residential. Unclassified stands right out, but not residential. That's arguably a bug :)  I added support (downgrading to track) for

Re: [Talk-us] Rural US: Correcting Original TIGER Imported Ways

On 19/02/2018 15:24, Dave Mansfield wrote: I agree. To me having paved and unpaved show on the osm.org default render would be the biggest improvement to OSM I can think of. If anyone wants any help setting up a server to experiment with options for rendering "unpaved" let me know.  I've

Re: [Talk-us] Parks, again

On 06/01/2018 21:11, Doug Hembry wrote: (lots snipped, pretty much all of which I agree with) IMHO, AT THE VERY LEAST, the background green fill for leisure=park could and should be dropped by openstreeetmap-carto - it is unnecessary, causes problems, and can be replaced by natural=* or

Re: [Talk-us] Potential vandalism in Northern California (Pokémon Go?) (Andy Townsend)

On 30/12/2017 01:28, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: (some bits snipped) 1) Let's agree that what our wiki says in leisure=park defines what we mean by "a park is a park, like this, even if it doesn't seem like that is what other parks look like, exactly." In other words, what OSM says is a

Re: [Talk-us] Potential vandalism in Northern California (Pokémon Go?)

eat if they continue and in the future add what they know about these areas too. Best Regards, Andy Townsend (DWG member and very occasional hiker in Northern California) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Multipolygonizing

On 20/11/2017 23:30, Ian Dees wrote: Please remember to stay on topic and friendly. This thread seems to be drifting off into a discussion about the merits of OSM editors. Well, my comment about editors wasn't supposed to be offtopic, since the question of data being "... far easier to

Re: [Talk-us] Multipolygonizing

On 20/11/2017 19:36, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: Come on, JOSM itself is difficult, but everyone who groked JOSM, never returns to Potlach. Untrue.  Each of the OSM editors has strengths and weaknesses - it's simply a case of finding the best tool for the job.  In some cases that might be JOSM; in

Re: [Talk-us] Multipolygonizing

On 20/11/2017 17:58, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: ... Glebius is right in my backyard and I've found his coastal "restructurings" (e.g. http://www.osm.org/changeset/46756097) to be bizarre and unnecessary, often overwriting correct official (county GIS imported) data simply to not "share some

Re: [Talk-us] Low-quality NHD imports

On 14/10/2017 03:56, Clifford Snow wrote: Unnamed streams are helpful to people hiking in the forest areas by giving a landmark for navigation. I'm in the UK so I'm not familiar with NHD, but here I am familiar with streams here traced from NPE (old maps, very inaccurate by modern

Re: [Talk-us] hydrology Alaska

On 18/10/2017 05:49, ANT Berezhnyi wrote: +10 to what AlaskaDave said Simplification creates such a crap, as you led me to an example https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/69.94271/-152.49898 isn't the result of simplification, though, is it?  You can see the pixels... I'd suggest that,

Re: [Talk-us] Davis Senior High School, California

On 12/10/2017 18:45, David Kewley wrote: I've just now sent an email through the school's portal to Mr. Birdsall, asking whether he can help. I live in California, and have met folks from Davis, but don't have enough of a personal connection to go a more direct route. David Thanks for

[Talk-us] Davis Senior High School, California

that actually exist rather than adding fake Pokemon parks called "Hi Albert". Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group PS: In case anyone wonders "why don't you just IP block them", some of the edits are from iPhones, so that wouldn't b

Re: [Talk-us] The Republic of Molossia (and other micro-nations)

On 03/09/2017 23:51, Bradley White wrote: Within the past few months, this "nation" has popped into OSM, complete with sloppily implemented "admin_level=2" and "boundary=national" tags, view-able here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/39.32281/-119.53908. My discussion point is whether this

Re: [Talk-us] anyone know what software is generating these Q/A Notes?

On 12/08/2017 00:45, Rihards wrote: seems to be streetcomplete, although i thought it edited osm data I did try and discuss this sort of problem with the author over at https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/351 - specifically to say that someone running StreetComplete should

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

On 05/07/2017 16:27, Greg Morgan wrote: I've seen the DWG go after real newbies because they are exited and want to make a difference but make a few mistakes. Have you got an example of that (offlist if it would be preferable)? A significant amount of my DWG time is spent trying to persuade

Re: [Talk-us] New Carto rendering of waterway=stream, intermittent=yes

On 22/05/2017 20:50, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: In a word, "yuk." It was a rendering faux pas rather than deliberate, and should (shortly) be fixed: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-May/078041.html Best Regards, Andy ___

Re: [Talk-us] Building import in the Chicago suburbs

Still no response on this - can anyone suggest a better way of getting in contact with Chicago-area mappers? Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OpenStreetMap's Data Working Group. On 25/03/2017 08:59, Andy Townsend wrote: It looks like someone's been trying to perform a building

[Talk-us] Building import in the Chicago suburbs

? If not, would it be possible for anyone more local than me to try and find out? Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OpenStreetMap's Data Working Group. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] reporting Pokemon Go related vandalism

On 27/01/2017 22:49, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/01/2017 06:20, Will Senechal wrote: I'll try to keep an eye on activity around here, and will try to continue updating my area. They've just "edited" again, and I've blocked in http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1169 , so I'd be

Re: [Talk-us] reporting Pokemon Go related vandalism

asiest way to go, but it helps if you are familiar with the JOSM editor first. There are more details on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Change_rollback . Best Regards, Andy Townsend, from OSM's Data Working Group. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstr

Re: [Talk-us] Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest (landuse=forest and US National forests again)

I see that no-one has yet removed "landuse=forest" from http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1447414 again ... I'm happy to do so (based on what I think is the general view in this thread) - or does anyone violently object? Let me know if you do, otherwise I'll remove the tag in a couple of

[Talk-us] Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest (landuse=forest and US National forests again)

I commented on http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43314846 a few days ago - does landuse=forest really make sense there? For more details on the relation see http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1447414#map=15/47.9626/-120.2074 and http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=1447414 .

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

On 08/07/2016 15:45, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: ... According to the Iowa DOT, it's official name is "Interstate Highway 235" but ... As Paul has already said, that sounds like a "ref" to me, not a "name". If something doesn't have a name, you don't need to create one for OSM... Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

I've tended to use "name:signed=no" and/or "ref:signed=no" if there's a name or ref that is agreed to be "correct" but not useful for navigation. It's not used much: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name%3Asigned but it does mean that you can exclude "non-useful names" from maps made

Re: [Talk-us] Tile cache issue?

On 28/05/2016 23:39, Kevin Kenny wrote: On the main server with the default layer, I notice that http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/42.6437/-74.0033 has paths that abruptly disappear at a tile boundary. I suspect that for whatever reason (server move related perhaps?) it just got missed.

Re: [Talk-us] Restoring bus routes in Portland

On 20/05/2016 13:20, Arun Ganesh wrote: Reverting the changesets are causing multiple conflicts and there does not seem to be a mechanism to just restore relation membership to a historical version. Any help and ideas appreciated [1] https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/185 If it

Re: [Talk-us] Caliparks re-tagging paths?

On 24/03/2016 12:50, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 03/24/2016 11:26 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: They tagged them as "social_path", according to their blog entry [1] Thank you for the link. This is what I feared. highway=social_path is certainly unacceptable - a self-made tag that essentially deletes

Re: [Talk-us] mapRe: (Second attempt) Potential data source: Adirondack Park Freshwater Wetlands

On 15/03/2016 19:00, Nathan Mills wrote: That said, without TIGER, OSM would have been useless (and still would be!) in large swaths of the US. (stating the bleeding obvious) there are divided opinions on this - when exactly this topic has come up previously people have said both "I only

Re: [Talk-us] 0,0 Cleanup

On 14/11/2015 06:42, Elliott Plack wrote: There's a lot of sandbox type data at 0°, 0° on OSM. Any special method to clean that up? I noticed it on the Mapbox Foursquare map, because creating lists defaults the map to 0,0 at z10. Any way we can polish that area up? There's not a huge

[Talk-us] Maxweight in the USA

Just a heads up... There's a bit of a discussion going on at the moment as to whether it makes sense to store SI units (or actually a derivative - metric tons) in maxweight tags. I noticed a few changes (initially to other values in the UK), and commented on

[Talk-us] Growing OSM (was OpenStreetMap US elections: October 12 townhall with candidates)

On 14/10/2015 16:21, Steve Coast wrote: (snipped) What we’ve tried so far: * SOTM getting bigger every year * We tried paid ambassadors at CloudMade, running mapping parties with some success but the timeframe was very long to see people turn in to editors. * We've tried making the web editor

[Talk-us] Sock-puppet accounts (was "More strangeness in Baltimore")

ap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance#WhoDidIt instances. Best Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[Talk-us] More strangeness in Baltimore

Can any Baltimore locals veryify or otherwise the changes in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34024769 ? It looks a similar style to the recent problematical ones there and at the very least that one seems to break some bus route relations. Cheers, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse

Re: [Talk-us] User HomocideBaltimore adding fake / fictional / old data all over Baltimore

On 11/09/2015 05:42, Richard Welty wrote: try contacting him through the OSM messaging system and ask him what his intent is. explain (politely) that OSM is for things that exist now, and there are alternate ways of handling historical data (e.g. OHM). Generally I'd suggest using changeset

Re: [Talk-us] BurningMan 2015

‎(apologies if this has already been mentioned but) perhaps this is something that makes sense for OpenHistoricalMap? Ask a help question along the lines of how do I add time-dependant data to OHM, perhaps clarifying that the ways for previous years are in OSM but are deleted, and I'm sure