Re: [Talk-us] Double Mapping - Point and Polygon

2011-08-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Mike Thompsonmiketho16 at gmail.com mailto:talk-us%40openstreetmap.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BTalk-us%5D%20Double%20Mapping%20-%20Point%20and%20PolygonIn-Reply-To=%3CCALJoUkteF1hb%3DDsUc%3Dm2ypXuhxeS%2BZxuHYwPTgCMwMbxJBhRBg%40mail.gmail.com%3Ewrote: It seems that some things in OSM have been

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Double Mapping - Point and Polygon

2011-08-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 08/25/2011 06:04 PM, Ian Dees wrote: OI change one to the other all the time, usually taking a GNIS point and making it a building outline. But it is a pain to preserve the keys. In JOSM: Select the way/node. Control+C to copy Select the new way/node Control+Shift+V to paste the tags on

[Talk-us] Proposed re-import of USA NEXRAD radar stations

2011-08-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I would like to run a fresh import of NEXRAD radar stations. A prior import is documented at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources#Next_Generation_Radar_.28NEXRAD.29_Locations These are primarily in the USA. I'm using a merge-edit tool which produces a diff compared to the

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Double Mapping - Point and Polygon

2011-08-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 08/25/2011 08:06 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: I have been able to convert a point to a way in Potlatch 2. I can then select the way (polygon) representing the feature and use the R command to copy over the tags. I then delete the way that was originally a point. Oooh, tricky and cool. So you

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Proposed re-import of USA NEXRAD radar stations

2011-08-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 26 August 2011 13:05, Bryce Nesbittbry...@obviously.com wrote: I would like to run a fresh import of NEXRAD radar stations. A prior import is documented at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources#Next_Generation_Radar_.28NEXRAD.29_Locations These are primarily in the USA.

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Proposed re-import of USA NEXRAD radar stations

2011-08-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 08/25/2011 11:24 PM, John Smith wrote: On 26 August 2011 16:06, Bryce Nesbittbry...@obviously.com wrote: As part of the re-import, I can re-tag. The original importer used a one-off key: tag k='radar_transponder' v='NEXRAD'/ I have communicated with that person, and he approves of the

Re: [Talk-us] Planning to import speed limit data for Florida

2011-09-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
ogr2osm converts the FDOT file just fine. It also loads up without trouble into qgis. But the road IDs are not very useful. Alligator Alley is 03175000, which is not a FIHS number, or a Tiger:tlid You have to get the localname.shp file to get more interesting names like: NAME

[Talk-us] Slippymap for USGS topos?

2011-09-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Good old usgs topographic maps are copyright free: http://nationalmap.gov/ustopo/faq.html And often a very useful reference when mapping, particularly in remote areas. I am aware of: http://toposm.com/us/ But is there a way to get USGS topographic slippymaps as a background in JSOM?

Re: [Talk-us] Slippymap for USGS topos?

2011-10-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I've been using http://mapper.acme.com/ which seems to source from: http://mytopo.com/ This least lets me flip between mapnik and usgs. It is not as good as having a true background layer during JOSM or Potlatch editing. ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] OSM inspector routing layer now also available in the US

2011-10-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 10/04/2011 12:18 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Currently the only way to fix a dupe node in JOSM is to delete one and then re-extend all ways back to the other. If the node is in the middle of one of these ways, you also have to split. This is way too much work to fix a common issue. To

Re: [Talk-us] OSM inspector routing layer now also available in the US

2011-10-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 10/04/2011 12:18 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Currently the only way to fix a dupe node in JOSM is to delete one and then re-extend all ways back to the other. If the node is in the middle of one of these ways, you also have to split. This is way too much work to fix a common issue. To

Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

2011-11-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 11/03/2011 06:09 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Up to now, we've been talking largely about addresses as point features. However, one thing I think would be good to have is block ranges on streets. What I mean is a tag that indicates this is the 1000 block, the 1100 block, the 1200 block, etc.

Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

2011-11-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 11/10/2011 04:22 AM, Anthony wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Steven Johnsonsejohns...@gmail.com wrote: The Census Bureau, through their partnerships and liaisons with state local govt, are acutely aware of the need and importance of address data. They are in fact open to finding

Re: [Talk-us] Any mappers local to NYC/LI?

2011-11-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 11/16/2011 09:18 AM, Skye Book wrote: I'm doing a ton of work with the data made available from the city as of late and a gripe from some people employed by the local government about OSM is that it isn't making full use of the data that the city is putting out there for consumption.

[Talk-us] One click quality printed maps (as an OSM advantage)

2011-12-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
There's something OSM could do well, that Google Maps can't, due to licensing restrictions: create good printable maps. Google and Mapquest both are pretty bad. The high volume use cases: * Printing a map for take along navigation, on a standard printer. * Exporting a map for embedding in

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2012-07-19 00:42 -0500]: Any other common problems that people have seen? The most common problem I see is a missing way. But all the nodes are there sitting in space. I've also tried:

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Depends whether you visit LA I guess ;) , but assuming you do, let's roll up our sleeves and fix it. I don't think that one self-proclaimed viking deciding not to agree to the new licence completely damns OSM! An

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Is there evidence of Google using streetview plus OCR for addressing data yet? I could imagine the crowdsource version of this that recognizes street signs and codes the address blocks frequently found on them. ___ Talk-us mailing list

[Talk-us] AOL Patch and OpenStreetMap

2013-06-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Not so long ago the maps used on AOL's patch properties were OpenStreetMap based. It really worked out well since so much of the content was locally generated, wiki content matched the wiki maps. That changed... anyone know when or why? ___ Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] AOL Patch and OpenStreetMap

2013-06-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: I now see Google used for the Yard sales in the area map. Just a guess: the Patch staff doesn't have resources for a map developer to create that set of interactive features using MapQuest Open. It was easier for them to just

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-06-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: Frederic, How about more mappers? Mike I think the key is more users of the maps. Not one in ten people I mention OSM to have ever heard of it: and I tend to run with geeks, outdoor enthusiasts, graduate students,

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-06-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.comwrote: Frederic, How about more mappers? Mike I think the key is more users of the maps. By that I mean more eyeballs on the output: more passive

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-06-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Frederic Julien fjulie...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear all, I'm working on a presentation and interested to hear your thoughts. What are the top 2-3 changes that could improve OSM data quality? That could be processes, tools, methods, training, peer review,

[Talk-us] Seeking recommendation for single POI mapping toolchain

2013-06-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm interested in finding a robust, not necessarily free, set of tools for single feature mapping. For example: to openly map public health clinics I'd want: 1. A hosted web map (showing the clinics as a clickable icons). The map should be a module integrable into a larger subject matter

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-06-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Possible drivers of quality: 1. Peer reviewing, as a social gateway to community engagement with new mappers. 2. Hiring a physiologist on retainer to understand obsessed trolls like NE2, and respond appropriately. 3. Supporting single feature mappers. There's a vibrant community

[Talk-us] OpenLegend (SOTM Sprint Proposal)

2013-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
For today's San Francisco SOTM Sprint, I'm writing to propose a design effort to bring together legends. The goal is to inspect each major map and build a legend, then combine those legends into a big cheat sheet. Then, inspect each editor and list the features it has presets for. The design

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: As for Bryce's observation - Zillow does not have overlapping polygons as far as I know, so it is by its nature sort of rigid - but then again this is probably what they require for their use case, as there would be no way

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
What's relevant to map (and often hard to find in real life) are those number posts for each campground. Calling them parking is clearly pandering to the rendering, especially for walk-in sites. But using the address: that has a certain logic. What are those numbers other than the address of the

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The reasons *not* to use the Zillow dataset are clear: nobody but zillow can edit it, and it is based on low quality TIGER data. The flickr dataset is similarly suspect, if this is any indication: http://boundaries.tomtaylor.co.uk/#23512042 It shows San Francisco's *SoMA* (South of Market)

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/6/14 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com The OSM node could even link to a wiki page where the neighborhood can be described in all its richness and complexity. you could do this with wikipedia links

Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I've been doing some California landuse and have come across a lot of landuse=residential imported from FMMP which is clearly wrong. The landuse=residential covers entire cities, including commercial, industrial, retail,

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: I wonder if it time to accept that we are unable to reach a consensus. Can we agree to let the local community decide which way to proceed? They are in the best position to know the issues surrounding neighborhood

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.govwrote: Is it preferable to keep the original GNIS tags if updating a GNIS object in OSM? I preserve the GNIS id number, even if I convert the feature from node to way (or vice versa). I do this not so much for later

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: The sort of signs in the link below are precisely the sort of thing we put in OSM, or at least have historically. https://www.cityoftulsa.org/**community-programs/**

Re: [Talk-us] Road Restriction: No RV's?

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.govwrote: Is there a tag equivalent for a road restriction that would imply no Recreational Vehicles/Motor Homes/Buses? Are you talking RV's as not advised or prohibited? And how about trucks with a given

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

2013-06-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: At last years SOTM-US conference, USGS showed a pilot program using a modified version of Potlatch2 to update GNIS database with volunteers. If they use this plan, the id tag could be used to compare OSM with the new

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: Surveying postal addresses by opening mailboxes (illegal) or knocking on doors doesn't seem feasible. but the enhanced 911 addresses are basically the same as the postal addresses and have the potential to become

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Mark Newnham m...@newnhams.com wrote: I work in the Uitilities/Billing industry and do a reasonable amount of work in addressing quality (in order to get lower USPS rates with things like the Intelligent Mail Barcoder and suchlike). I'd just like to throw a

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: The data that Bryce is talking to us about is post office locations. And even this, as we've begun to dig into it, is of limited value to the project, since we have to do the geocoding for this data. It's still worth

Re: [Talk-us] Cam4rd98 just doesn't get it

2013-06-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
What's your more specific concern, and what wording have you tried? Is your concern the future shopping centers as a concept, or the way they are tagged? On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16078863

Re: [Talk-us] Cam4rd98 just doesn't get it

2013-06-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'll let his comments here[1] on a note page speak Again, all I see is a well meaning user who very clearly is not yet absorbed OSM culture. There is no belligerence, just a bit of confusion. The tools could

[Talk-us] Onboarding new mappers | Keeping track of changes

2013-06-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Moved from another thread: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:51 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: OSM has a peer review process in place right now. It is called watch the map, help it evolve, grow it as you can, if somebody does something odd/wrong/different, dialog with them. And then,

Re: [Talk-us] TorhamZed imports

2013-06-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
At first it looked like great photo mapping... fitting a pattern of a long distance team driving trucker doing 4-5 truck stops a day... But given buildings plopped onto roads: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16662943 And the comment: 16598240 June 18, 2013 03:59 Loves' # 458 -

Re: [Talk-us] A new openstreetmap.us

2013-06-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The instructions currently read: *1. Create an account on OpenStreetMap.org* *2. Click on “edit” and pick one of the editors to edit the map* Which seems a bit sparse and perhaps intimidating. Could that have a 3? Editing the map is not every new person's goal. Maybe give 'em good examples

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

2013-07-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: We need publicity! Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should try and work on as a group. I wish this

Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?

2013-07-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: Still, I think detour routes might be a good idea, but only if somebody is willing to keep track of the projects and fix everything once the construction is finished. If the rendering is really really orange and

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.govwrote: The intent is to convey what mode of travel is appropriate or “authorized” for each of 100+ campsites. Many are hiker-only, easily solved by “horse=no”, some are horse and hiker, a very few are hiker, horse, and

[Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Did the OSM board approve a bulk survey activity, directed to OSM user's inboxes? The discussion on this survey was fairly negative a month ago, and today it showed up in my inbox: *padeshahekhoban* *26 July 2013 at 21:10* *Hello,* *I am researching on the motivations and behaviors of OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I don't know which OSM board but the OSMF board certainly didn't. The contrary is the case: http://www.openstreetmap.org/**user_blocks/369http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/369 I think it is time to follow this

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/7/27 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com I think it is *also* time to create a supportable sustainable strategy for future researchers or grad students. IMHO our data including all history is public

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: ** I might be the nicest person you have ever met, I hope I am a good OSM mapper, and I am kind to children and animals. However, I vehemently oppose OSM collecting any additional personally-identifiable data. My

Re: [Talk-us] Cemeteries in OSM?

2013-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: Are there Smartphone apps that can do this with the help of their accelerometer? Some other type of hardware? I could point you to the professional equipment that can do this. On the cheap though, consider using a laser

[Talk-us] Shining example of OSM use, tarnished.

2013-08-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Dear US OSM enthusiasts: Out Whitehouse is using OpenStreetMap: http://www.whitehouse.gov/change Uses CloudMade tiles and OpenLayers to display a... broken map... with broken images. I've emailed the whitehouse webmaster without effect. Is anyone aware of how this map came to be placed here,

[Talk-us] Seeking 3 volunteers (to send their votes down on toilets).

2013-08-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Would three kind souls take the time to vote at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets To bring the total to 15 voters? Thanks! (I welcome anyone interested in counting the seated capacity of toilets to then make a subsequent proposal)

Re: [Talk-us] Putting businesses on OSM with onosm.org

2013-08-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I found when accepting water fountain data from non-mappers that... most of it was good... but I really had to flip through each node to find the newbie mistakes. I think onosm would produce a lot of good data that would be better hand curated as it enters osm proper.

Re: [Talk-us] Postal Code Extract (zip vs zcta)

2013-09-04 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 9/4/13 7:16 AM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: From the page which Bryce referred to in http://lists.openstreetmap.**

Re: [Talk-us] map data error page at gps.gov

2013-09-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
, perhaps: -- From: Jason Y. Kim jason.kim++gps.gov Thanks for the suggestion. We'll add that link when we update the page. Jason Y. Kim Webmaster, www.gps.gov On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Bryce Nesbitt

Re: [Talk-us] map data error page at gps.gov

2013-09-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Well, maybe with a little encouragement with Jason Y. Kim is in order. If someone edited the page and sent him text, for example... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I would like to suggest that the editors remove the following tags entirely: gnis:ST_num gnis:ST_alpha gnis:feature_type... Unless there are serious objections I plan to open a pull request adding listed tags to

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here's a patch to JOSM to warn the human editor about tags that are about to disappear. What do you think? --- src/org/openstreetmap/josm/gui/dialogs/properties/PropertiesDialog.java (revision 6232) +++ src/org/openstreetmap/josm/gui/dialogs/properties/PropertiesDialog.java (working copy) @@

Re: [Talk-us] SPUI mapping

2013-09-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I am looking for opinions on how to map these complex interchanges. Could a few of you have a look at what I did and comment? Thanks. Thinking out loud: A SPUI is conceptually simple from a routing perspective: from all input roads you can turn left, right or go straight. The complexity

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS updating

2014-01-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote: If you find a problematic GNIS node (especially natural feature), you should consider sending an email to gnis_mana...@usgs.gov as

Re: [Talk-us] Semi-spammy sorta-helpful edit: how to handle

2014-01-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I ran into something similar: a note tag entered a week ago by user Noram (near a new node with name= Noram Auto Repair) which simply listed Repair and service of Japanese, and American made automobiles and trucks. Let's do better than that at http://www.noramautorepairservices.com/ But

Re: [Talk-us] Quick intro and request to contribute

2014-01-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
And I encourage you to ask is this a one time import or an ongoing import? For your speed data a one time import might be OK. For something like store locations, which change all the time, the data might just get stale in OSM. The proper term for matching up data like this is 'conflation', and

Re: [Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?

2014-01-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Thanks for that Randy. Echoing your themes: the global home page, and especially the US home page, do seem to assume people will jump right into general purpose mapping. The underlying assumption seems to be 'if *they* only had known OSM exists, they'd become dedicated mappers'. I think there

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I generally copy the tags to the boundary (in JOSM copy the node, then paste tags into the way). The tiger and gnis tags do not overlap. The GNISID is a particularly useful tag to preserve. Town vs. City is a matter of opinion. You can visit the municipal website and use whatever term they use

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: terms like town and city generally have specific legal meanings in the US, and those meanings vary from state to state. this is one where in all likelyhood you should leave it to a local mapper, or consult with a

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: terms like town and city generally have specific legal meanings in the US, and those meanings vary from state to state. this is one where in all likelyhood you should leave it to a local mapper, or consult with a

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-02-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Sebastian Arcus s.ar...@open-t.co.uk wrote: All of that doesn't really exist in the US, if my knowledge serves me right. Even the smallest of settlements (bigger than a farm) seemed to have started in the US around a group of facilities, such as shops,

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

2014-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote: I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think any normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its hard to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] [Imports] fleet manager speed limit import proposal (Canada, USA)

2014-04-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Keep in mind when collecting fleet speed limits: in many places HGV's have a different limit than other traffic. For example the Interstates in California USA are generally 65 mph general/55 mph trucks. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

2014-09-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I see rural roads breaking down fairly neatly: - Paved - Unpaved improved - Track - ATV/Narrow vehicle only (the United States Forest Service defines this as 50 body width or less) - Single track (e.g. Motorcycle) - Trail - Closed to some combination of

Re: [Talk-us] Dirt Roads (formerly: Abandoned railway)

2014-09-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno 06/set/2014, alle ore 07:24, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com ha scritto: BUT ANY OF THESE can be primary, secondary, tertiary or residential. No, the ones that are too narrow (motorcycle

[Talk-us] Help with revert : Drag moved street in Denver

2014-09-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I did a partial revert of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/25206929#map=18/39.75833/-105.03600layers=D Using JOSM. Would someone take a peek at this: it's my first revert, and a second set of eyes would be nice. The original edit dragged a road, disconnecting at multiple points.

Re: [Talk-us] Help with revert : Drag moved street in Denver

2014-09-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: usually disconnections shouldn't happen by a simple drag. At least in JOSM (but I believe also in the other editors), you'd have to actively disconnect the nodes. What I found was a road that remained

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a seasonally closed roads with uncertain spring opening

2014-11-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Paper maps handle this with Closed in winter. access=seasonal seems the tagging equivalent. Then, perhaps, if actual dates are announced they could be coded: access:announced_opening=20140501 A router may key off access=seasonal to warn people that a closure date needs to be checked for.

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible solutions include a

Re: [Talk-us] Misspelled names

2014-12-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Note that for shops with a website, KeepRight loads the website and matches the name. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To summarize: a proposed import of of bicycle repair stations. The database is maintained by a vendor of bicycle repair stations, the data quality is spot on in many cases, and geocoding level in other cases with the pins generally in the right area. The stations are too small to find on an air

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing your mapping project. Regards, Greg Greg; There are five locations shown on the Arizona State University Tempe campus. Could you ground truth those? ___

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
even on the best available air photos (e.g. better than the Bing ones). Even the street cameras are not generally enough: this really takes in person spotting. Any more comment / objection? On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: To summarize: a proposed import

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
This seems to be tagging for the renderer which is not a good idea. If the only thing occupying the building is a single POI, then put the POI tags on the closed Way for the building outline. By adding a new object (Node) for the POI, you are also going against the One feature, one OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Why does the USA currently lag in OSM map quality?

2015-02-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
A modicum of guerrilla mapping can have a huge effect. A few athletic fields and building outlines can quickly snowball into almost every building and driveway in town. [2] Try this: In the course of your everyday life, when you describe a meeting place to someone via email, send them a

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing your mapping project. Regards, Greg

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
How about this: particularly in the case of two businesses within one building polygon, create non-building area's for the business tags. Then you get the sense of scale of the business, and preserve the free tagging of the building polygon. ___

Re: [Talk-us] Why does the USA currently lag in OSM map quality?

2015-02-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed, Mapillary is great. I wonder if there's room to get GoPro+Mapillary to donate a few units to put together a rig that we could ship around to people in the US that could collect data for the US community...

[Talk-us] Proposed import: Bicycle Repair Stations, Mostly in the USA

2015-01-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Head over to imports-us for the discussion. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Dero_Bike_Repair is the proposal page. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] access road routing - two real world cases

2015-01-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I would tag *access=destination* here, and hope routers don't use that route unless the way is within the bounding box (or at least near) to my destination. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
. Regards, Greg On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com javascript:; wrote: To summarize: a proposed import of of bicycle repair stations. The database is maintained

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Would you put bender's corner on a map today? If the barrier to cleaning is too great, not enough cleaning will happen. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Weigh stations on Interstates

2015-03-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Also present near the USA mexican border are immigration check stations, where border patrol agents profile passengers and drivers based on race, and may ask for identification. In some places these are mobile stations, others have mappable fixed infrastructure. Typically all vehicles must stop.

Re: [Talk-us] Weigh stations on Interstates

2015-03-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Problem is, as we've observed on what's starting to feel like a weekly basis here, there are no rational national assumptions, when in doubt, tag it anyway. I think we've also observed that more people map than fix:

Re: [Talk-us] Weigh stations on Interstates

2015-03-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
While one could get into access tags for weigh stations, it seems like it would create as many problems as it solves. -- A weigh station in the USA is a mandatory stop for heavy goods vehicles, and prohibited entry for everyone else. Heavy goods vehicles with special equipment can bypass the

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I don't see a problem with access=private as this could be handy for micromapping a property. access=public should probably be access=yes. The tagging proposal to date imagined only the shared dump stations of the

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: A caravan site might have 200 private hookups. We don't want the hookups to be rendered at the same level as the central dump station. Backyard

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: As a tagged property of a mapped place (e.g. campground, store, fuel station), without a specific position. Probably not as this is almost certainly too vague. There are already hundreds of those, mostly in New

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote: Brand new anonymous users come to the map every day and are confused by what these hamlets are. proof: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/163246 I kind of doubt this person is going to stick around and improve the map.

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: My initial reaction to any automated edit is to break out in a rash. Can we use that image to promote mapping best practices? :-) Goal: A new local mapper in each BadHamlet Here's what I did with bike repair stations:

Re: [Talk-us] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:07 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Are there any rendering packages that can be set to render private objects for only a preset list of operator tag values? So, if an association of recreational vehicle owners has waste disposal stations only for

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I'm in favor of a bulk edit for US hamlets within city boundaries to be retagged as place=neighbourhood I generally agree with this, as a first step. Especially if there's a followup challenge of some sort to improve the

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