Re: [Talk-us] Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest (landuse=forest and US National forests again)

2016-11-29 Thread Steven Johnson
> does the landuse=forest assignment make sense on the National Forest boundary, No. The boundary indicated USNF ownership, not landuse/landcover. or should it be on the forested areas within? Yes, that's a more appropriate use for that tag. Similar situation exists in the George Washington

Re: [Talk-us] highway=service + landuse=residential

2016-06-14 Thread Steven Johnson
More suited to planimetrics than transportation. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes. --*Ludwig Wittgenstein* On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:20 PM, David Chiles wrote: > both the

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

2016-06-03 Thread Steven Johnson
I typically correct the geometry and delete the 'TIGER:reviewed=no', but leave the rest because I'm superstitious... -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes. --*Ludwig Wittgenstein* On Fri, Jun 3,

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

2016-05-27 Thread Steven Johnson
Martijn & all, This is just an awesome tool and it keeps getting better. A happy by-product of this: I'm finding this particular challenge useful in cleaning up road misalignments left over from the 2008 import of TIGER. So great to see this re-deployed. Thanks to you and the team. Cheers, -- SEJ

Re: [Talk-us] DOT construction updates

2016-03-20 Thread Steven Johnson
+1.5 for the maproulette suggestion. --SEJ Sent from my electronic tether. > On 2016年3月16日, at 19:47, Charlotte Wolter wrote: > > Martijn, > > The Arizona Dept. of Transportation (ADOT, www.azdot.gov) has > extensive information on both proposed and

[Talk-us] Map St Lucia

2016-02-05 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, The government of St Lucia is sponsoring their first ever Map St Lucia day on 28 February. To encourage greater mapping activity in the Caribbean and to support this emerging community, we'd like to encourage mappers with an interest in the Caribbean basin to participate. TeachOSM will be

Re: [Talk-us] Local OSM groups in the US

2016-01-12 Thread Steven Johnson
Dale & list, TeachOSM has initiated a project with the US Census Bureau we've been calling 'Missing America', dedicated to mapping those marginal areas and vulnerable populations. We're just getting organized, but anticipate local communities playing a part in both mapping as well as community

Re: [Talk-us] Local OSM groups in the US

2016-01-12 Thread Steven Johnson
Yes, I'm participating in the HOT Training WG to provide overlap & continuity. Thanks, --SEJ Sent from my electronic tether. > On 2016年1月12日, at 17:16, Ray Kiddy <r...@ganymede.org> wrote: > > > >> On 1/12/16 5:23 AM, Steven Johnson wrote: >> Dale

Re: [Talk-us] GeoBadges 1.0 for OpenStreetMap

2015-11-17 Thread Steven Johnson
> I assume that you have got legal advice on the COPPA related consequences > of your activities and are willing to share this with the OSMF? > > Simon > > > Am 17.11.2015 um 02:45 schrieb Steven Johnson: > > Hello list, > > Just in time for #OSMGeoweek, TeachOSM with s

Re: [Talk-us] GeoBadges 1.0 for OpenStreetMap

2015-11-16 Thread Steven Johnson
keep your hands off beans!" - v.141, *On Nature, *Empedocles On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: > Steven, > > On 11/17/2015 02:45 AM, Steven Johnson wrote: > > Just in time for #OSMGeoweek, TeachOSM with support from Mapstory.or

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap US chapter board elections

2015-10-21 Thread Steven Johnson
Thank you, Paul & Henk and congratulations to the board. It's going to be a good year. --SEJ Sent from my electronic tether. > On 2015年10月21日, at 17:28, Paul Norman wrote: > > As one of the independent scrutineers for the OSM US Election, I have > completed counting

Re: [Talk-us] Map Roulette Idea - GNIS "parks"

2015-10-06 Thread Steven Johnson
+1 Great idea. I would think USGS might even be interested in some sort of collaboration to clean up all the GNIS points. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 5:25

Re: [Talk-us] what happened to Sacramento?

2015-09-29 Thread Steven Johnson
I just like the surprise way in which the issue was resolved. Good work all around! -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Minh Nguyen

Re: [Talk-us] Examples of OSM used in school curriculum

2015-07-01 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi Ian, In a word, yes. Start w/ the case studies on TeachOSM[1] and Shawn Goulet's presentation at this year's SOTMUS. More tomorrow... [1] http://teachosm.org -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from

Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

2015-05-19 Thread Steven Johnson
The nodes w/ place names are good to have to support a healthy gazetteer function. Much harder to make a case for keeping CDP boundaries. --SEJ Sent from my electronic tether. On 2015年5月19日, at 20:47, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 5/19/15 8:35 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: I

Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

2015-05-19 Thread Steven Johnson
Yes, U.S. Census Bureau treats them as statistical, not aim boundaries. --SEJ Sent from my electronic tether. On 2015年5月19日, at 21:33, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: On 5/19/15 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: they probably shouldn't be in an administrative boundary

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi Harald, It's great to see more events like this popping up all over. Is it due to the spring thaw? Or greater community interest? Generally, your plan sounds good. A few points that may help: * I'm a vocal proponent of using local libraries from start to finish for these events as they provide

[Talk-us] Reminder: Minnesota Ave Mapping Party this weekend (24 Jan)

2015-01-20 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, Just a timely reminder that we're returning to Minnesota Ave this weekend to map POIs and conduct a street survey using Mapillary. Please sign up here: http://www.meetup.com/MappingDC/events/219960381/ See you Saturday, -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two

[Talk-us] Next DC Great Streets mapping party

2015-01-03 Thread Steven Johnson
Happy 2015, mappers! We're returning to Minnesota Ave for the first mapping party of the year. I've reserved space at the Benning Rd Library from 1pm - 4pm on 24 January. We'll be mapping local small businesses and neighborhood institutions, as well as refining our photo survey techniques using

[Talk-us] Case studies for TeachOSM

2014-12-14 Thread Steven Johnson
Hello listers, As some of you know, we recently launched the TeachOSM website[1] to provide resources for the TeachOSM initiative. Because the aim of TeachOSM is to provide teachers and instructors with resources to teach basic geography using the OpenStreetMap platform, we're looking for 1)

Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-12 Thread Steven Johnson
I share Sarah's skepticism about importing ZCTAs. ZCTAs are generalized polygons created by the US Census Bureau and derived from *point* data furnished by the US Postal Service. Given the variability of ZIP codes in general, and the fact that OSM is two steps removed from the source data makes

[Talk-us] Mapathon, Washington, DC

2014-10-16 Thread Steven Johnson
For those of you in the Washington, DC area, we're having a mapathon this Saturday (18 Oct). The crucial details here: http://www.meetup.com/MappingDC/events/211868782/ This is the second event in our series of collaborations with DC Great Streets program and local community development group,

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

2014-10-04 Thread Steven Johnson
+1 Hear, hear! Thank you, Robin for an eloquent response. --SEJ Sent from my electronic tether. On Oct 4, 2014, at 12:42, Robin Tolochko robin.toloc...@gmail.com wrote: I considered not running for the board because of the low number of edits that I've done, but ultimately decided that

[Talk-us] (no subject)

2014-09-12 Thread Steven Johnson
Hello list, Here’s a quick update on plans for this year’s Geography Awareness Week[1], which kicks off on 17 Nov. This year’s theme is ‘The Future of Food’ and we’re targeting colleges/university communities across the country to host events. If you have an affiliation with a college/university

[Talk-us] OSM Geography Awareness Week

2014-09-12 Thread Steven Johnson
(Sorry for the re-post; forgot to include subject line.) Here’s a quick update on plans for this year’s Geography Awareness Week[1], which kicks off on 17 Nov. This year’s theme is ‘The Future of Food’ and we’re targeting colleges/university communities across the country to host events. If you

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Baltimore County Maryland Building and Address Import

2014-09-05 Thread Steven Johnson
This is really great seeing building footprints in some of the more rural areas and I hope we see more imports of rural areas in the future. Great job, Elliot. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from

[Talk-us] Announcement: WashDC mapping party, 6 Sept

2014-09-02 Thread Steven Johnson
Hello list, Saturday, 6 September, MappingDC is collaborating with Great Streets DC, the Georgia Avenue Business Association, and local community development organization, MOMIES TLC to map the Georgia Avenue corridor.[1] This is a great opportunity to use your OpenStreetMap skills for community

Re: [Talk-us] Teaching with OSM examples (for H.S. STEM class)

2014-07-26 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi Tanya, Yes, there are good leads. Interest in using OSM to teach geography has been growing of late and I've been devoting a larger share of my time to establish a 'TeachOSM' capability, specifically to provide resources to teachers who want to use OSM to teach geography. First, timing is

Re: [Talk-us] Beach routing

2014-07-10 Thread Steven Johnson
A few years ago, I mapped beach access paths, too: http://ow.ly/yZT3G But I did not map along the beach as there was no clearly defined path or boardwalk, nor could I see a compelling case for doing so. I can see a reason if driving, horses, bikes compete for access, or there are areas that

[Talk-us] Summer editathon: OpenStreetMap Summer Camp

2014-06-12 Thread Steven Johnson
It's not too early to start thinking about this summer's (July?) editathon and I'd like to propose we turn this one be a family/youth-oriented event and give it a theme: OpenStreetMap Summer Camp. The idea is simply to conduct the editathons much like we have in the past, but make a concerted

Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks as footpaths

2014-04-30 Thread Steven Johnson
Certainly your first move should be to contact the user, gently point her/him to the consensus method for tagging sidewalks, and ask the mapper to correct their work. Hopefully, an appeal to enlightened self-interest as well as the quality of the map, will prevail. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic

[Talk-us] Notes from TeachOSM BoF at SotMUS

2014-04-14 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, I created a Hackpad[0] to consolidate my (loose) notes from Sunday's birds-of-a-feather session at State of the Map. Surely there are things I left out so please feel free to add your thoughts, make revisions, clarifications, etc. [0]

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-17 Thread Steven Johnson
Formally, the Census product is called ZCTAs - Zip Code Tabulation Areas, and they are polygons. They are useful in a variety of operations internal to Census Bureau, and externally as part of the transportation planning program but, as others have pointed out, they are NOT official Zip codes. The

Re: [Talk-us] Bing imagery update

2013-12-04 Thread Steven Johnson
Whoa, nice work, Martijn! Thanks for calling it out, Clifford. This is really useful. -Steven -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Clifford Snow

Re: [Talk-us] take responsibility, not control.

2013-11-20 Thread Steven Johnson
Excellent post, Richard. +1 to your suggestion that we all assume good faith. We should all collaborate and encourage camaraderie between mappers. --SEJ Sent from my electronic tether. On Nov 18, 2013, at 12:12, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: When you find a suspicious edit, try

Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US: CDPs

2013-11-08 Thread Steven Johnson
CDPs are used by Census and other Federal agencies, OMB in particular. They are used as a tool to administer programs, for example Federal block grants. I'm not sure they have much use beyond that. State/tribal/county/municipal boundaries OTOH are much more useful and likely to reflect a consensus

Re: [Talk-us] Fall Editathon Seattle Edition

2013-10-21 Thread Steven Johnson
Yes, another ringing endorsement for Battlegrid. I used it quite a bit at yesterday's DC #editathon. It's very helpful in finding alignment needles in haystacks of TIGER/OSM data. Also, thanks to Mele for pulling together a great #editathon how-to. Lots of good stuff there. SEJ -- SEJ --

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Question about incorrect data for an administrative area

2013-10-17 Thread Steven Johnson
When tagging boundaries, I think you'll find it worthwhile to look at the US Census Bureau's 2012 Census of Governments[0], which lists all incorporated governmental units by state. It's is a comprehensive listing by state, of all governmental units. It's indispensable for understanding the

Re: [Talk-us] 2013-2014 OSM US Election Results

2013-10-15 Thread Steven Johnson
participated Richard Welty Elections for OpenStreetMap US Board of Directors 2013/2014 Results Alex Barth 60 Martijn van Exel54 Ian Dees43 Kathleen Danielson 41 Mele Sax-Barnett34 -- Steve Coast 31 Alyssa Wright 31 Steven

Re: [Talk-us] Baltimore County GIS Data is now public domain

2013-10-03 Thread Steven Johnson
It does appear that these copyright clauses exist to protect the local jurisdiction from any liability regarding (mis-)use of the data. Back in my paleo-GIS days, we were always concerned that someone would mis-construe the data and hold the County liable and were careful to put a disclaimer on

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-08-21 Thread Steven Johnson
I am strenuously in favor of keeping whichever feature ID enables us to know the lineage and provenance of the GNIS point. That bit of metadata can be useful for downstream uses. There are instances where the ele tag is useful, even if only as a rough guide, but I don't have strong feelings about

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Steven Johnson
I'm almost certain that Mikel was involved in one, or both of those '08/'09 efforts to map Black Rock City. Worth contacting him about what it would take to re-do it for 2013. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Releasing my data into Public Domain

2013-07-18 Thread Steven Johnson
If the data are to be released under the terms and provisions of Maryland public records law, you should probably cite the section of the code that applies to the data. States often have conditions that specify which records are in the public domain (e.g. real estate transactions) and which are

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-25 Thread Steven Johnson
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: At SOTM-US (State of the Map US) I spoke to Steven Johnson of the Census Bureau on the issue of what data USPS actually has internally (as the Census Bureau has some special licensed access to this data). Yes, just

Re: [Talk-us] Parking rendering

2013-06-14 Thread Steven Johnson
To amplify what Serge said about Washington, no distinction was made for the behind-the-house, 1-2 vehicle private space versus large public lots. So if you were to look at the WashDC map, you'd be misled into thinking there is parking everywhere! I rather like the suggestion of addressing it

[Talk-us] OpenStreetMap outreach opportunity

2013-06-11 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, (Cross-posting to talk-us the *brand-spanking new* diversity-talk list... Yay.) I'm following up on our great discussion at #sotmus about diversity and, in this specific case, outreach/education to broaden the community base. I want to point out this upcoming National Youth Summit on

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-11 Thread Steven Johnson
Nathaniel Kelso David Blackman's presentation at #sotmus on Quattroshapes might offer some guidance, at least with respect to a method. They used Foursquare checkins and geotagged Flickr photos to calculate some boundaries. Now, I am more likely to check in at Arlington (my city) than I am in

Re: [Talk-us] New member

2013-05-16 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi Amy, Great to have you and happy to see more educational institutions contributing to the project. If you're looking for inspiration, you might want to take a look at TerpNav [1] and see how Univ of Maryland has used OpenStreetMap to create an interactive campus map. Looking forward to seeing

[Talk-us] Examples Gov using OSM

2013-03-26 Thread Steven Johnson
I think Alex' inquiry was meant the other way round. That is, governments using OSM data for whatever purpose. The example I'm most familiar with is TriMet in Portland, OR, which uses OSM as a basemap for their TripPlanner. [1] Are there other examples? [1]

Re: [Talk-us] Happy New Year from MapRoulette!

2013-01-10 Thread Steven Johnson
Martijn, This is quite an achievement and I, for one, thank you for your ingenuity. Beers on me, next time we meet! Do you have any metrics/stats on the MapRoulette tasks? Like, how many errors at the beginning, how many contributors, how long it took to eliminate the errors? and so on? That

[Talk-us] Obtaining local govt GIS data (was: King County, Washington authorization)

2012-12-11 Thread Steven Johnson
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Sweet. I wish more local governments took this approach. I agree. I'm looking at several local governments in Virginia (including Arlington). Nearly all of them have some boilerplate language such as this, from

Re: [Talk-us] Obtaining local govt GIS data (was: King County, Washington authorization)

2012-12-11 Thread Steven Johnson
/Sample_Data_Request - Jeff On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 12/11/2012 1:49 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Interested to hear what experiences other mappers have had in other parts of the country. My county has virtually the same copyright, and sells a GIS DVD

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Steven Johnson
I'm wholeheartedly behind this effort as address data have long been an interest. So I just had a quick look at obtaining data for Arlington, VA. The data (current as of May 2012) are available on CD for cost of reproduction ($125) and includes address points, plus parcels, zoning, flood control

Re: [Talk-us] Dual Carriageway?

2012-11-29 Thread Steven Johnson
Yes, in that the carriageways are effectively separated. But in a very tortured sort of way. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Richard Welty

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Steven Johnson
, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Brian May b...@mapwise.com wrote: On 11/29/2012 1:11 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/29/12 1:03 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: The data are copyrighted and Arlington County owns all rights to the data and allows use ...as an acknowledged source to produce maps or analysis

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Steven Johnson
Let me pose something to help clarify what we're talking about when we say, importing addresses First, are we talking about 1) Address *ranges*, which are linear features and apply to streets/roads? TIGER has address ranges, useful for interpolation. But TIGER does not contain individual

Re: [Talk-us] Imports

2012-11-29 Thread Steven Johnson
This speaks to the message I just posted to the list: I believe Richard F's inspiration was SteveC's post suggesting we import TIGER (*range*) data, and apply it to ways. OTHO, I believe Ian (also prompted by SteveC) is suggesting importing local address (*point*) data, and applying it to

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Steven Johnson
Okay, so we're talking about importing address *points*. Good. Now, are we talking strictly about *postal* addresses? Or *site* addresses? In some cases (cities, typically) they're typically the same. But in rural areas not always the case. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8

Re: [Talk-us] Alaska CPD boundaries

2012-11-27 Thread Steven Johnson
I don't know if it's helpful in this particular case, but there is a diagram of the hierarchy of the Census geography here: http://www.census.gov/geo/reference/hierarchy.html -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age

Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-21 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, Two things: First, thanks Mark, for a very useful suggestion. I need to think about it, but I think it has merit from the standpoint of streamlining the address assignment process, as well as keeping address points in sync with their associated streets. Second, Richard, please see

Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-21 Thread Steven Johnson
I understand what you're saying. It is a nice solution, but it's not without trade offs. In the very short run, relations are difficult for new mappers, both conceptually and using the existing tools to create and maintain them. In the longer run, I think our editing tools will improve, hopefully

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-20 Thread Steven Johnson
Thanks for all the constructive, if skeptical responses. I can't respond to each of them individually, but I'll try to respond to the most pointed comments here. Bill R Washburn (dygituljunky) asked: Would you be opposed to just splitting off the directional prefixes and suffixes, thereby

Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-18 Thread Steven Johnson
are treated as secondary, discardable information in local speech.) On Nov 18, 2012 3:09 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Richard Serge, Thanks for the comments. Let me see if I can clarify... The problem: Unlike other (mostly European) countries, there are at least 4 street

[Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-17 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, Following up on an action from SotM-PDX, I've posted a proposal for expanded tagging for addresses, primarily in the US (though it may have application in other countries). The intent of the tags is to 1) improve the description of US addresses, and 2) provide greater flexibility for local

Re: [Talk-us] SOTM-US 2013

2012-11-07 Thread Steven Johnson
For those interested in putting together a bid, you may want to review the bid criteria and some of the past bids to get a sense of content and level of detail. The ones for 2012 are here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_U.S._2012/BIDS -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype:

Re: [Talk-us] flyers / brochures

2012-07-25 Thread Steven Johnson
Just FYI... Re: the stuff Thea shipped to GeoIQ: it disappeared into the ether as far as anyone knows. Andrew and I looked for it, but could never find it, so that's a dead end. Better to concentrate on Steve C as a source. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the

Re: [Talk-us] Using TIGER to find missing road segments in OSM after license change

2012-03-29 Thread Steven Johnson
It appears Josh and Ian are making incremental, but significant advances toward much-needed conflation tools. Echoing Martijn's comment, I look forward to finding some spare time to test these out. Good going, guys... -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the

Re: [Talk-us] National Bridge Inventory

2012-02-16 Thread Steven Johnson
sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 20:45, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Oops! I meant to reply to the list, not off list! Sent in haste, I suppose... -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common

Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

2011-11-07 Thread Steven Johnson
Yaa, a FOIA request is very unlikely to yield results. There is a glimmer of hope, though. State and local governments have been asking the Census Bureau for their address data (Master Address File) for years. The Census Bureau, through their partnerships and liaisons with state local govt, are

Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

2011-11-06 Thread Steven Johnson
Doubt very seriously a FOIA request would work. Since the data are subject to Title XIII restrictions, it will likely take an act of Congress to make them available. Sent via telepathy. On Nov 5, 2011, at 17:13, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Val Kartchner

Re: [Talk-us] One of the strangest TIGER screwups I've seen

2011-10-24 Thread Steven Johnson
In my experience, railway data in TIGER is much less likely to be up to date than road data, presumably because census workers need to visit people that live along roads, but railways are just convenient reference points. There are railroad rights-of-way in Maryland that were abandoned in

Re: [Talk-us] US local chapter board election results

2011-10-12 Thread Steven Johnson
Would next Thu (20 Oct) work for an annual meeting/presentation from the outgoing board? That would at least give us a chance to prepare (i.e. gather our wits). -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping party best practices

2011-10-04 Thread Steven Johnson
Two critical elements of a successful mapping party are the people and publicity. WRT publicity, I have learned (the hard way) that publicity materials need to convey enough information to get people curious enough to show up. Also you need to disperse publicity through as many channels as you

[Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, I'd like to announce a broad-based project to improve addresses in OSM. The project page is here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement The purpose of this project is to improve the tagging and better reflect local addressing practice, particularly in areas where the

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Steven Johnson
, -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Einstein On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 21:08, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all

Re: [Talk-us] Who is mapping on the ground in US?

2011-06-02 Thread Steven Johnson
We're overdue to host a mapping party in the DC area. We'll organize one at a meetup to be held sometime in the next two weeks (likely coinciding with WhereCampDC, 10-11 June). So look for an event in WashDC before end of June... I helped organize and conduct a very successful mapping party at

Re: [Talk-us] Ideas for OSMF US Swag

2011-05-27 Thread Steven Johnson
I'd be glad to help out with pamphlets. And yes, we'll want to make tweaks to localize the document for a US audience. I'd be happy to take a crack at that. Jim, perhaps we should consider eventually posting softcopy with GeoBus materials? -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 A

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Steven Johnson
I, too, have been thinking that a core+layers approach would be useful in a number of contexts, primarily conflation between different databases/datasets. But the same qualities that make it useful for historical (i.e. Civil War battlefield mapping) might also be useful for mapping of ephemeral

Re: [Talk-us] Screw-up of borders

2011-03-25 Thread Steven Johnson
+1 Please discuss errors with users off-list first. There may be occasions for publicly shaming someone, (e.g. deliberate vandalism) but honest mistakes do not meet this threshold. Thanks, -- SEJ t: @geomantics: sejohnson8 A serious and good philosophical work could be written

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-08 Thread Steven Johnson
I would definitely be interested. We had a mapping party at Manassas Battlefield last June, but there are so many other battlefields within an easy drive of WashDC that need greater visibility on the map. And now that the weather is moderating, it would be a great time to do some historical

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-08 Thread Steven Johnson
would seem pretty unreasonable to attempt in OSM as it is now (e.g., showing all the unit locations during the day at Antietam as they appear on the 1908 Cope maps). On 3/8/11 3:39 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: I would definitely be interested. We had a mapping party at Manassas Battlefield

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-08 Thread Steven Johnson
in a significant way from current names without too much trouble. this wouldn't add clutter. On 3/8/11 5:05 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: FWIW, when we mapped at Manassas, we mapped what's on the ground now. Not to say there couldn't be other approaches, but we didn't really have a plan in hand to do

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Address Database

2011-03-02 Thread Steven Johnson
In the US, addresses are typically assigned by local (sometimes state) governments and NOT by the USPS. The USPS is agnostic with respect to the actual house number, as long as it is correctly encoded in their Delivery Sequence Files (the DSF, which tells the postal worker where the delivery point

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing Virginia road centerlines

2011-02-21 Thread Steven Johnson
Josh, I like Katie's idea of breaking the data up into manageable chunks (counties?) and importing in incrementally. I'd be interested in helping with a few chunks. I'm in Arlington, too. Perhaps we'll meet at a DC area event? SEJ A serious and good philosophical work could be written

Re: [Talk-us] US highway tagging (was: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-15 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi Brad list, Well, you mentioned working groups. Have you considered standing up a US-based Tagging working group? Perhaps the WG could take on highway tagging as a first project. Here's where to go to get started:

[Talk-us] upcoming Triangle NC mapping party

2010-09-23 Thread Steven Johnson
Hello list, Just want to make everyone aware of an upcoming two-day mapping party in Raleigh/Cary/Research Triangle (NC) next weekend (2 - 3 October). If you're in the area, please bring your GPS (or Walking Papers) and come out! *Where are we going to be mapping? *There will be 2 main areas:

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences (Peter Batty)

2010-09-10 Thread Steven Johnson
Here's the wiki page for the Denver bid to host SotMUS. Much of the material can probably be re-purposed for a SotM2011 bid. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States/US_SOTM/BIDS/Denver SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Thu, Sep

Re: [Talk-us] sotm.us 2010 video uploads begin

2010-08-30 Thread Steven Johnson
Been on vacation and (mostly) unplugged the last ten days. What a treat to return to the SOTMUS conference videos. Thanks for all your hard work, Dave. SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:20, David Carmean d...@halibut.com wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] Address Standard

2010-08-13 Thread Steven Johnson
If you want to see the mother of all street naming trainwrecks, have a look at Hickory, NC. Story goes that sometime back in the '30's, the city fathers/mothers thought they would rationalize street naming. But what makes sense on gridded streets makes an *awful* mnemonic device for wayfinding,

Re: [Talk-us] Can US OSM help with license upgrade? (was: Re: License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins)

2010-08-12 Thread Steven Johnson
Virtually all geospatial data obtained from government agencies in the US, -local, state, or Federal is subject to either Federal or state public records law, and therefore in the public domain. (Note however that some states have stronger public records law than others). Of course, there are

Re: [Talk-us] National Wetlands Inventory

2010-08-12 Thread Steven Johnson
I'm not an expert on either of these data sets, but I know enough to say that USGS sponsored the development of the NHD, largely to replace the old digital line graph (DLG) products. NHD serves as a multi-purpose inventory of surface waters, grouped by watershed. OTOH, FWS sponsored development of

Re: [Talk-us] Address Standard

2010-08-12 Thread Steven Johnson
Well, hang on a tic... I don't know if you can really say, ...no one will manually enter in all those parts, especially since the distinction would be meaningless to most people. Just like breaking out the prefix, I think breaking out the address into a finer granularity makes the address more

Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

2010-05-02 Thread Steven Johnson
I like the way Jim has broken out the components of US OSM pages. Some of these are probably better as wiki pages, others as more static pages. But having it in 'bite sized chunks' makes it easier to divide the work and manage the tasks. SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from

Re: [Talk-us] osm sign in los angeles

2010-03-04 Thread Steven Johnson
I'll bet it could be re-used at the OSM booth at the Where2.0 conference, no? SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 22:10, Blars Blarson openstreetmap-talk...@scd.debian.net wrote: After SCALE, I wound up with the OSM sign. About

Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter temporary Board Nomination

2010-02-09 Thread Steven Johnson
Alright then, I'm throwing my hat into the ring... I accept the nomination to run for the temporary board of the U.S. Chapter of OSM. I have been active in the Washington OSM community since late 2008. I have both helped organize and participate mapping parties in the Washington, DC area,

Re: [Talk-us] openstreetmap.us

2010-01-24 Thread Steven Johnson
Sure, I'd be interested in what kind of hosting arrangements you're able to line up. You can either reply directly or to the list. SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 09:39, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 24, 2010

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Zipcode Import

2009-12-20 Thread Steven Johnson
The USPS treats ZIP codes as an extension of address data and as such, they should be treated as point data, since they are an attribute of the address associated with a building or a property parcel. The problem with creating polygons out of these points is that the ZIP codes don't cleave neatly

Re: [Talk-us] Thanks for a great call

2009-11-24 Thread Steven Johnson
Very good. I know several folks who have an immediate need for something like this and I'm going to pass it on to them. Nice work, Detectist! SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:39, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On

Re: [Talk-us] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread Steven Johnson
No, you're not too late... I've been looking at addressing issues lately as well. Most of the addressing resources I've found are on the relations page of the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations#Addressing The most important consideration here is that you are dealing with address