Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-19 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi: OK already! Let's stop this useless chatter about something that we can't control. For right now, we still have our Window-eyes so let's get back to helping each other work out our problems with Window-eyes, and then cross whatever bridges are to be crossed when we get to them. Kevin Huber O

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-18 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
ssage- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:44 PM To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Had similar experiences dealing with fs on the low vision hardware side of customer service. They customer service not so much

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-18 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
were nasty. I told him I was just so mad I just hung up, and I didn't call back for a long time. Pam. -Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:44 PM To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-17 Thread Dave via Talk
Was there a Settlement in this sute?Any Dollar amount made public? I sort of remember F/S filing a sute, but wasn't as observant as I am today. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the au

RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-17 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
To: Nick Sarames Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes You really are clueless. Spite doesn't have a thing to do with it, logic does. I needed the keys from them to make it work, no where else to get them. I just love it when people comme

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-17 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
You really are clueless. Spite doesn't have a thing to do with it, logic does. I needed the keys from them to make it work, no where else to get them. I just love it when people comment on something they don't know anything about. BTW, been doing this stuff since 1983, so if there had been

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-17 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk
Had similar experiences dealing with fs on the low vision hardware side of customer service. They customer service not so much. On Monday, October 17, 2016, Nick Sarames via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > I'm sure if you really wanted to, you'd've found other ways to get > help.

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-17 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
I'm sure if you really wanted to, you'd've found other ways to get help. If spite is more important, then one really doesn't need assistance. On 10/17/2016 9:20 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > My opinion only, but I won't be buying jaws or any of their products. I > don't recall what the th

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-17 Thread Drew Clark via Talk
if window eyes can run on 1 gb of ram and 1 ghz processor and does not eat up a lot of processes maybe i will use it during my first time finding this screen reader. it was during window eyes 7.0. and, now since i have faster pc, i am using it! yay! On 10/17/2016 9:20 PM, Butch Bussen via Tal

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-17 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
My opinion only, but I won't be buying jaws or any of their products. I don't recall what the thing was even called, but was a portable device put out by freedom that did everything, e-mail, gps and so forth. The v a bought a friend of mine a new one so he gave me his old unit, about three th

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-16 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
Yup it is. I bought my copy on the LTO plan from 2007 to 2009 and haven't looked back. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:43 PM To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-16 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
seen it on the site, either. Pam. -Original Message- From: Jim via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:51 PM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Hi There! I talked to someone at AI-Squared Friday, and at that time I was

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-16 Thread Jim via Talk
s that way, but I finished paying it off in 2010. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:56 PM To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long' Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eye

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-16 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
way, but I finished paying it off in 2010. Pam. -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 8:56 PM To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long' Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Hi:

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-16 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Dennis Long' Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Hi: I can say, having been through a "merger" which really was an acquisition, there are things that take time to sort out. Many times, these things are done just to ge

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-16 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:47 PM To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Window Eyes is working great for me, if it is almost unusable for you, there has to be a problem with its installation or something like a virus on your com

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-16 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
iscussion List' ; 'Dennis Long' Subject: RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Hi: I can say, having been through a "merger" which really was an acquisition, there are things that take time to sort out. Many times, these things are done just to get the customer bas

RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
is Skarstad via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:21 PM To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Yep, as far as i know the free Window-eyes is still available. Also, there may be legalities. The AI squared staff are most likely, not

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
on List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes I have never seen such a negative group of users as seen on this list. - Original Message - From: "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" > To: "Chris Skarstad" >; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" > Sent: Sa

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk
om: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt = > shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com ] On > Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:57 PM > To: Vaughan Dodd; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes > > I have never seen such a negati

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Jim via Talk
56, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: I have never seen such a negative group of users as seen on this list. - Original Message - From: "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" To: "Chris Skarstad" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:29 PM Subject:

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:29 PM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have been told something by now. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
ssion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes did anyone ever think that they are still figuring it out? it's not even 6 months. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson via Talk" To: "Tony C" ; "Chris Skarstad" ; "Window-Eyes Discussi

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
, October 15, 2016 1:29 PM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have been told something by now. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent:

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have been told something by now. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:45 AM To: Kenneth Son ; Window

RE: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Neither have I. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:57 PM To: Vaughan Dodd; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes I have never

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I have never seen such a negative group of users as seen on this list. - Original Message - From: "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" To: "Chris Skarstad" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regar

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Loy via Talk
, 2016 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Hell, it's almost useless now. -Original Message- From: Kenneth Son via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:26 AM To: john_far...@btinternet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contactin

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
On the other hand, endless repetitive comments are not very constructive and simply clutter up the list. On 10/15/2016 4:29 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: > In stead of attacking users who are expressing a legitimate opinion, > offer an alternative argument. > > > The evidence of the demise of

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
In stead of attacking users who are expressing a legitimate opinion, offer an alternative argument. The evidence of the demise of Window-Eyes as a living and developing piece of software is very clear to me. Vaughan. On 10/16/2016 3:45 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
VFO is basically a creation of Freedom Scientific: with all of its shoddy practices built in. Vaughan. On 10/16/2016 3:26 AM, Kenneth Son via Talk wrote: Hello list. I don't think any comments sent to the vfo people will do much good. Personally,I hope Microsoft Narater becomes so perfe

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Tony C via Talk
Well, if it wasn't true or at least very proable we would have been told something by now. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:45 AM To: Kenneth Son ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Tony C via Talk
Hell, it's almost useless now. -Original Message- From: Kenneth Son via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:26 AM To: john_far...@btinternet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Hello list. I don't think any comments sent

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Tony C via Talk
They usually ignore anything they don't like. lol -Original Message- From: John Farley via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 5:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes Hello list, I have now sent a note to VFO via their contact us facilit

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I agree I wrote to them until an official announcement is made this is just nuts be a little positive. - Original Message - From: "Chris Skarstad via Talk" To: "Kenneth Son" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:45

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
So, like, you guys have pretty much already decided that window-eyes is dead and gone, even before an official announcement has even been made? I love your optomism. with attitudes like this, no wonder people are convinced it's going away. oh, but yeah, just sit back, a

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Kenneth Son via Talk
Hello list. I don't think any comments sent to the vfo people will do much good. Personally,I hope Microsoft Narater becomes so perfected that it puts the other screen reader into the useless category. That would make Narrater the main screen reader just as Voiceover is for the Apple product

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Kenneth Son via Talk
Hello list. I don't think any comments sent to the vfo people will do much good. Personally,I hope Microsoft Narater becomes so perfected that it puts the other screen reader into the useless category. That would make Narrater the main screen reader just as Voiceover is for the Apple product

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread Don H via Talk
Back when Open Book was owned by Arkenstone the users list for Open Book was monitored by the Arkenstone staff. Then when FS purchased Open Book that monitoring stopped never to be seen again. Simply put FS doesn't monitor their users list. On 10/15/2016 8:19 AM, David via Talk wrote: For a

Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

2016-10-15 Thread David via Talk
For all the years I have been a WE user, one of the outstanding things to be said about the staff, was that they actually cared to follow the trafic on the mailing lists. Valuable instructions and feedback has been received from the staff directly, and as a user, you could give direct feedback