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2017-05-22 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
Yep they are a pain. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk Sent: 21 May 2017 11:45 To: Steve Nutt via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation

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2017-05-21 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I agree with Chris people need to listen to the podcast. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:46 AM To: Steve Nutt via Talk Subject: Re: whole migrating situation

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2017-05-21 Thread Chris G via Talk
> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation We have a monopoly now, since eventually ie will be gone and everyone will have to use Microsoft edge and if jaws is the only screne reader that can work with Microsoft edge what can you do? If Microsoft decides to change windows to do updates and o

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2017-05-21 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
n List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation Learn jaws it has virtual ribbons -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:36 PM

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2017-05-21 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
n List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation We have a monopoly now, since eventually ie will be gone and everyone will have to use Microsoft edge and if jaws is the only screne reader that can work with Microsoft edge what can you do? If Microsoft decides to ch

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2017-05-18 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Natalie via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:48 To: richard kurlander; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: whole migrating situation I need braille to learn. Any info.?Natalie Johnson On 5/17/2017 1:36 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote: > you used to work for w

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2017-05-17 Thread john schwery via Talk
] On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:12 AM To: Kurlander Richard (75) <rkur...@schools.nyc.gov>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation And I'm JAWS certified, and am the only one in Tennesse

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2017-05-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of evelyn weckerly via Talk Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2017 10:41 a.m. To: mattc...@verizon.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Hi

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2017-05-17 Thread evelyn weckerly via Talk
make an electronic braille file out of it. Evelyn - Original Message - From: Matthew Chao via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com To: Natalie via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com Date sent: Wed, 17 May 2017 13:19:34 -0400 Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Same here. Als

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2017-05-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2017 12:50 a.m. To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: whole migrating situation You don't learn by reading manuals you learn by practicing. If I have a problem with Verizon I can call them 24/7, granted they know nothing about screen

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2017-05-17 Thread David Crowell via Talk
, 2017 9:12 AM To: Kurlander Richard (75) <rkur...@schools.nyc.gov>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation And I'm JAWS certified, and am the only one in Tennessee. If anyone needs or wants help, email me off list at dgbow...@m

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2017-05-17 Thread David via Talk
: > Some one has to pay the trainers! People don't work for free. >- Original Message - >From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk >To: Raul A. Gallegos ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:41 AM >Subject: RE: whole m

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2017-05-17 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
Same here. Also need braille.--Matthew Chao On 5/17/2017 12:47 PM, Natalie via Talk wrote: I need braille to learn. Any info.?Natalie Johnson On 5/17/2017 1:36 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote: you used to work for we I feel as a blind person that tech support in these companies

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2017-05-17 Thread Thomas N. Chan via Talk
: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2017 5:23 AM To: Orlando Enrique Fiol <of...@verizon.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situati

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2017-05-17 Thread Natalie via Talk
I need braille to learn. Any info.?Natalie Johnson On 5/17/2017 1:36 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote: you used to work for we I feel as a blind person that tech support in these companies should give hands on training for free not just say read a manual or listen to tutorials. that

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2017-05-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
) via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:50 AM To: Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation You don't learn by reading manuals you learn by practicing. If I have a problem with Verizon I can ca

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2017-05-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:36 AM To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@vfogroup.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation I understand, however however all screen reading companies should try to wo

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2017-05-17 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
(75) <rkur...@schools.nyc.gov>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Some one has to pay the trainers! People don't work for free. - Original Message - From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk To: Raul

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2017-05-17 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
right out of the box with narrator. -Original Message- From: Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:06 PM To: Singing Sparrow ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: whole migrating situation In windows XP, narrator was very simple. But actually, near raider started

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2017-05-17 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
In the last couple of windows 10 computers I bought, I was able to set them up right out of the box with narrator. -Original Message- From: Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:06 PM To: Singing Sparrow ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: whole migrating

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2017-05-17 Thread Loy via Talk
Some one has to pay the trainers! People don't work for free. - Original Message - From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk To: Raul A. Gallegos ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:41 AM Subject: RE: whole migrating situation This is just what I

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2017-05-17 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
:22 AM To: john_far...@btinternet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation Richard you already say you have no time to read books or listen to tutorials Wh

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2017-05-17 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:01 AM To: richard kurlander <r.kurlan...@verizon.net> Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Richard, I'm happy to discuss one on one hands on training with you. Please contact me off list a

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2017-05-17 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:17 AM To: Orlando Enrique Fiol <of...@verizon.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situat

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2017-05-17 Thread Doug Geoffray via Talk
To: Joseph Norton <joseph.nor...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation >So, no monopoly here, yet. Just business. >The same thing happened in the Long Distance and local phone markets. >The AT field is no

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2017-05-17 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of John Farley via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:11 AM To: 'richard kurlander'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Raul A. Gallegos' Subject: RE: whole migrating situation Richard, Let's move away from the screen reader aspect here slightly

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2017-05-17 Thread John Farley via Talk
259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:36 AM To: Raul A. Gallegos; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: whole

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2017-05-17 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Exactly. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:43 AM To: Natalie; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Tom Kingston Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Does it really

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2017-05-17 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Does it really matter? On 5/16/2017 6:11 PM, Natalie via Talk wrote: > I'm curious. When they sold to A.I. Squared did they realize this would > appen > > ? Just curious. I know big eats small but is AI Squared really a > company or a shell? > > Natalie Johnson > On 5/16/2017 5:56 PM, Tom

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2017-05-16 Thread richard kurlander via Talk
you used to work for we I feel as a blind person that tech support in these companies should give hands on training for free not just say read a manual or listen to tutorials. that doesn't work for me. I learn better with hands on. I work all day and certainly do not have the time to read

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2017-05-16 Thread Natalie via Talk
I'm curious. When they sold to A.I. Squared did they realize this would appen ? Just curious. I know big eats small but is AI Squared really a company or a shell? Natalie Johnson On 5/16/2017 5:56 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Get your facts straight! Doug and Dan did not sell

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2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Get your facts straight! Doug and Dan did not sell anything to VFO. They merged with AI Squared who waited a year before selling their soul to the shark. It is their CEO who is now a VP at VFO. Tap into your Ph.D. candidacy to see if you can figure out the sympathetic resonances in this

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2017-05-16 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
well, even though it started in window s 2000 we still did talk to bill gates to get him to start putting speech into windows. On 5/16/2017 4:06 PM, Darrell Bowles wrote: In windows XP, narrator was very simple. But actually, near raider started in windows 2000. Look at windows 10,

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2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
, but, when Symantec bought them out, they decided to drop that program Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Orlando Enrique Fiol Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:52 PM To: Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: whole migrating situation >So, no monopoly here, yet. Just busin

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2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
In windows XP, narrator was very simple. But actually, near raider started in windows 2000. Look at windows 10, particularly the creators update, and narrator is not as simple as it once was. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk >

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2017-05-16 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
>So, no monopoly here, yet. Just business. >The same thing happened in the Long Distance and local phone markets. >The AT field is no different, whether we like it or not. Your analogy is somewhat flawed because long distance telephone carriers provided the exact same service. Whether you used

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2017-05-16 Thread Alison May via Talk
, no monopoly here, yet. Just business. > > The same thing happened in the Long Distance and local phone markets. > > The AT field is no different, whether we like it or not. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Tuesday,

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2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Thanks for the rare voice of reason, Raul. Regards, Tom On 5/16/2017 3:06 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote: Hi, this is not true. What about other browsers like Firefox and Chrome? There is always choice. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and

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2017-05-16 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Yes I agree with Raul, testing out Screen reader, formally known as Super Nova and so far it's okay, much more responsitve than Jaws is in windows 10, just my own personal opinion. - Original Message - From: "

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2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Yes I agree with Raul, testing out Screen reader, formally known as Super Nova and so far it's okay, much more responsitve than Jaws is in windows 10, just my own personal opinion. - Original Message - From: "Rau

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2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
: Re: whole migrating situation Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > I agree either accept the offer or don't. > > -Original M

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2017-05-16 Thread Armando Maldonado via Talk
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:05 PM Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Hi Darrell, I believe you have around 4 or 5 options. Let me know if I can be of assistance in helping you find the option which will

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2017-05-16 Thread Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Hi, this is not true. What about other browsers like Firefox and Chrome? There is always choice. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter:

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2017-05-16 Thread Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Hi Darrell, I believe you have around 4 or 5 options. Let me know if I can be of assistance in helping you find the option which will best fit your needs. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email:

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2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > I agree either accept the offer o

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2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > I agree either accept the offer or don

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2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
-old daughter. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:32 AM To: Kevin Huber; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Sold down the river. That's a pretty good one. What we have seen, is how true capitalism works. Sent

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2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk > wrote: > > I agree either accept the offer or don't. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk

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2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
He has the right to choose whatever is in the market place. On 5/16/2017 12:38 PM, Darrell Bowles wrote: > Then, perhaps we are not dealing with capitalism, as the customer doesn't > have the right to choose? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 16, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk >>

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2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Then, perhaps we are not dealing with capitalism, as the customer doesn't have the right to choose? Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk > wrote: > > With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have >

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2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
In its purest form, capitalism is, you have something I want, and I have something you want, let's make a deal! And you the consumer can choose to purchase the product or refuse. What is more free than that? There's no political state telling you what to purchase or what to create. On

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2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sold down the river. That's a pretty good one. What we have seen, is how true capitalism works. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk > wrote: > > Hi Richard: > > We have to realize that Change happens whether we like it or not,