Re: New Tune/January '11

2010-12-28 Thread Steve Cantrell
I'd definitely be interested in hearing this. 






From: jojo joe.nobil...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tue, December 28, 2010 8:24:54 AM
Subject: Re: New Tune/January '11

I've not posted a vid yet but I'll raise my hand for the Mississippi
Palisades tune by Chirps Smith, one of Illinois' finest old-time
musicians.

Joe

On Dec 27, 1:47 pm, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not sure what the rules are for choosing SOTM... but if'n y'all want a great 
tune to learn, I'll suggest Mississippi Palisades by Chirps Smith. I'm very 
likely the only one in the group that knows it and that should definitely 
change 
'cause it's a great one. I have Chirps doing it (banjo/fiddle) and it's also 
on 
the new Rhys Jones record (fiddle/piano/banjo). I could make the audio 
available 
should folks decide they'd like to do it. It'd have to be an exercise in ear 
training 'cause no tab exists...

 Brian

 On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:16 PM, mistertaterbug wrote:

  Boy, this page has gone dead silent since the Facebutt page got
  started. Crickets...So, what're we gonna do about the January tune? I
  suggest we go to another key and get outa A. Who's gonna pick the
  tune? Shall we go alphabetically? Youngest? Oldest? Best looking(no
  wait, I already did one BFG)? What say you folks?

  Taterbug

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Re: New Tune/January '11

2010-12-28 Thread Steve Cantrell
And here is a slow version if anyone would like to hear it:
http://oldtownschool.org/connect/fiddleclub/2008/04/11/some-tunes-from-chirps-smith/






From: jojo joe.nobil...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tue, December 28, 2010 8:24:54 AM
Subject: Re: New Tune/January '11

I've not posted a vid yet but I'll raise my hand for the Mississippi
Palisades tune by Chirps Smith, one of Illinois' finest old-time
musicians.

Joe

On Dec 27, 1:47 pm, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not sure what the rules are for choosing SOTM... but if'n y'all want a great 
tune to learn, I'll suggest Mississippi Palisades by Chirps Smith. I'm very 
likely the only one in the group that knows it and that should definitely 
change 
'cause it's a great one. I have Chirps doing it (banjo/fiddle) and it's also 
on 
the new Rhys Jones record (fiddle/piano/banjo). I could make the audio 
available 
should folks decide they'd like to do it. It'd have to be an exercise in ear 
training 'cause no tab exists...

 Brian

 On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:16 PM, mistertaterbug wrote:

  Boy, this page has gone dead silent since the Facebutt page got
  started. Crickets...So, what're we gonna do about the January tune? I
  suggest we go to another key and get outa A. Who's gonna pick the
  tune? Shall we go alphabetically? Youngest? Oldest? Best looking(no
  wait, I already did one BFG)? What say you folks?

  Taterbug

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-16 Thread Steve Cantrell
Excellent, Val! I do love the sounds of those oval holes. You did a great job 
on 
it.





From: Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 1:18:56 PM
Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEB-vzpSPT0

There it is ... the link to the really only so-so video of my grub
springs effort. It was an interesting exercise, mostly in getting over
my fear of all the technology involved and then to get a take where I
wasn't swearing or dropping my pick or something and that was short
enough to be reasonable. Anyway, guys, you've all inspired me past the
technology hurdle. Also in examining tunes with such a thoroughness.
Thanks so much. Sorry that I couldn't get a shot with my head
included. I wasn't being coy; the clips with my head in there also
involved the swearing and pick-dropping. Now if I could figure out how
to edit these videos, that would be excellent. best val


On Dec 4, 1:58 pm, mgromkey mgrom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, I get it. The new posts are at the end so you have to page thru
 till you get to the newest. I don't see an option you can set to put
 the new posts at the top. If anybody has the Rosetta Stone to that
 one, kindly clue me in.

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Cantrell
I'm hoping to have a version Tuesday when our band practices. We have been 
working on it independently and so far, so good. 







From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
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Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 5:31:03 AM
Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

Here's my effort. Fighting against rushing as always, but the nose looks good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pyV1cWk3f8

Cheers
Robin



On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:48 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

Sounding good, folks.
TBug


On Dec 5, 1:47 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Nice work!
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 On 12/5/10 1:15 PM, mgromkey wrote:
  I'm still a little lost here, folks. It looks as if Fred Keller posted
  a link or a video but I don't see it any place. Jonas, your's sounds
  good to me. Can you play these tunes too fast? (g) (Though I confess,
  I usually like slowing things down from take-no-prisoners Bill Monroe
  tempo.) Don: The first link should take you straight to the YouTube
  post. I don't know why it won't embed. You're right: Makes no sense.
  Will send you an email about collaborating. -- MR

 Funny.  Must've forgotten to post the link.  Sorry!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_SmXzwKqAA

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Cantrell
Here's my run at it. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUOlD-Nv2fQ

I guess mine falls more on the crooked side since that's what I had heard until 
that point, but I think that there's comfort in knowing there's one that sticks 
closer to the path. Curious to see what my buddy Josh has on it for fiddle when 
we get together later this week.





From: kathy nichols kathymnich...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 6:31:57 PM
Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

Thank you for bring this up.  I wondered if I was the only one
confused by the difference between the mp3, the youtube, and the tab.

I went to a jam this weekend and asked an old time fiddler there if he
knew Hatcher's version of Grub Springs.  He promptly played the
straight version of the tune found on most of the other youtube
videos.
He has played around Michigan for many years, just never heard the
crooked version but thought the one he played was Hatcher's version.

I find working on one measure at a time is helping some.  Still
confused about which fingers to use on the slides, especially in the
7th measure.

Interesting spelling for the blogger's first name
Daevid.kinda crooked.

Kathy

On 12/6/10, mgromkey mgrom...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know if this'll help the effort, but as Don pointed out to me
 in a sidebar discussion, the Hatcher version, and the reference video
 of the two women playing fiddle, plays the B part one and a half
 times. In the middle of the second time through, Hatcher has kind of a
 brain bubble, drags out an A chord, and inexplicably kicks back to bar
 1. Truly kinky. Tater's gentlemanly transcript has a straight repeat
 on the B part, which is a lot more civilized. There is, however,
 something appealing about the more insane version.

 Below is a link to an interesting Exhibition Of Weird Fiddle Tunes
 found when I Googled Hatcher as an alternative to actually doing work
 at the end of the day. It's filled with amusing observations about old-
 time fiddlers who seem to have taken composition lessons from
 aliens.

 http://www.myspace.com/davidbragger/blog/175439660

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

2010-11-28 Thread Steve Cantrell
I#39;d like one too. We gave it a run last night with somewhat mixed results.

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Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

2010-11-25 Thread Steve Cantrell
I learn best with a multi-fold example. Maybe tab, plus a video or mp3. If one 
won't work the other usually will, at least for me.

I don't think we should confine it to bluegrass. I think adapting Mike's style 
to all formats is the way to go (mostly since I play OT but insist on playing 
melody along with the fiddle and not just strum chords).

That being said, I'm pretty much agreeable to anything not involving Kanye West 
or Lady Gaga.




From: mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net
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Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 8:20:28 PM
Subject: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake


Seems that I learn easier from standard notation, but better by ear.


Clyde Clevenger 
Just My Opinion, But It's Right 
Salem, Oregon 
Old Circle


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Also, what are the needs of the group? Should it be tab, standard
notation, just audio...what works best for everybody?
T. Pratie




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Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

2010-11-24 Thread Steve Cantrell
Ditto on this one. I think it would be a fine idea. 





From: nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net
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Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

Excellent idea!
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From:  Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com 
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Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake
Good one Don!  I think we need to do a song of the month type deal over here in 
Taterland.  Maybe if we include Tater hisself it would kick off pretty good.  
Call a tune, have someone do a recording on Youtube and at the end of the month 
everyone else puts up their version.  Just a thought.

M



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks, guys. Nelson, I haven't heard Shelvin' Rock so I'm looking
forward to your video.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:10 PM,  nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Don,

 I'll have to watch the video at home.  The Army doesn't like for us to spend 
time on YouTube when we are working.  What's their problem, anyway?  :)

 Yes, I am behind in my goal.  I have been working on some old time tunes, 
 and 
will get one out pretty soon.  Shelvin' Rock it is fast becoming a favorite 
and 
will probably be the one.

 Nelson


  On Tue 11/23/10  3:51 PM , Michael Romkey mgrom...@gmail.com sent:
 Nice job! Nice tune! Nice mando! Nice to the third power!

 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Trey Young  wrote:
 Great job Don!
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 FROM: Don
 TO: taterbugmando
 SENT: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:00:47 PM
 SUBJECT: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

 Hey Nelson,
 Time for a video from you, isn't it? Here's one from me.
 Georgia Home
 is from the Original Underground Music From The Mysterious South
 album, released on CD as Natasha's Waltz. Played on my
 Campanella
 Dué.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCsPCd3Q2c [4]

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Re: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe

2010-09-21 Thread Steve Cantrell
Totally agree. Every time I catch Cumberland Highlanders I feel like they're 
dancing on the man's grave.

mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

And Campbell Mercer hasn't made a mockery of Monroe? Maybe he oughta
read up on how he's handled things in his *own* backyard. I really
think that anybody who's looking to this movie to be anything other
than entertainment is just asking to be disappointed. I haven't seen
anything in print that's included the words 'historical' or
'documentary'. While the movie will probably bring in people who were
not aware of Monroe's music, it doesn't appear that Bill's artistry is
the focal point of the film. Like it or not, infidelities sell tickets
more readily to the masses than hill country music does.

There's just no point in us all chasing our tails over this. It's
going to be what it's going to be and nothing will change that.
Tbug


On Sep 17, 11:32 am, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Peter Sarsgaard, 39, is cast as Monroe.

 I talked to Peter
  on the phone the other day, Woodward said. He was in New York taking
 mandolin lessons. He plays guitar, but he needs to be able to play
 mandolin for the movie.

 Yea, I'm sure after a couple of lessons in NEW YORK, he will have no 
 trouble playing rawhideyea right.   What I want to know is who's 
 going to teach him to sing like Bill?   Good luck with that!

 --- On Fri, 9/17/10, johnhga...@aol.com johnhga...@aol.com wrote:

 From: johnhga...@aol.com johnhga...@aol.com
 Subject: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe
 To: m...@yahoogroups.com, deepgr...@yahoogroups.com, 
 taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 11:32 AM

 Saw a link on mandolincafe.com to another article about the Bill Monroe 
 movie that's in the works...

  

 John

  

  

 http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/yb/149878570

  

 Producer hopes to shoot part of film in Rosine and Owensboro

 Sept. 16--Bessie Lee Mauldin was 17 when she met Bill Monroe in the fall of 
 1938.

 He had just turned 27, was already a singing star with his brother, Charlie, 
 in the Monroe Brothers -- and was married.

 But three years later, Monroe, by then a member of the Grand Ole Opry, moved 
 Mauldin to Nashville and made her his road girlfriend, Richard D. Smith 
 wrote in Can't You Hear Me Callin', his 2000 biography of the father of 
 bluegrass music.

 Over the next four decades, Monroe and Mauldin had a turbulent romance that 
 inspired several major bluegrass songs -- apparently including Blue Moon of 
 Kentucky, Smith wrote.

 Now, a Hollywood company is gearing up to film a movie based on Smith's 
 book. And the producer, Trevor Jolly, hopes to shoot part of it in Owensboro 
 and Monroe's hometown of Rosine, he said in an e-mail.

 I've read the script, said Owensboro businessman Terry Woodward, who is 
 vice chairman of the International Bluegrass Music Museum. It's a love 
 story about Bill and Bessie Lee.

 And that worries Campbell Mercer, executive director of the Jerusalem Ridge 
 Foundation, which owns Monroe's childhood home and farm in Ohio County.

 My concern is that the film not make a mockery of Bill, Mercer, a keeper 
 of the Monroe flame, said Tuesday. It's based on a book by Richard D. 
 Smith. It was a book that needed to be written, but it was written by the 
 wrong guy.

 Mercer would prefer a movie that focused on Monroe's music, not his 
 infidelities.

 But Mauldin is considered to have been Monroe's muse.

 Their child, which she gave up for adoption, according to the book, inspired 
 the song, My Little Georgia Rose.

 And Mauldin, a bass player with Monroe's Blue Grass Boys off and on for two 
 decades, played on 99 of Monroe's recordings.

 Reminded that the soundtrack for Bonnie and Clyde, the 1967 movie about 
 gangsters Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker, contained a lot of bluegrass music 
 and brought a lot of new fans to the genre, Mercer said, This time I'm 
 afraid Bill is going to be Clyde.

 Funny stories out there

 Still, he says, there are some awful funny stories about Bill and Bessie 
 Lee out there, including one about Mauldin wrestling another of Monroe's 
 girlfriends to the ground in North Carolina.

 Maggie Gyllenhaal, 32, who was nominated for an Oscar for her role in last 
 year's Crazy Heart, recently told ScreenCrave.com that she will portray 
 Mauldin in the movie. Her husband, Peter Sarsgaard, 39, is cast as Monroe.

 I talked to Peter on the phone the other day, Woodward said. He was in 
 New York taking mandolin lessons. He plays guitar, but he needs to be able 
 to play mandolin for the movie.

 Woodward said: He's very enthusiastic about the movie. He said his father 
 was a big bluegrass fan.

 The ScreenCrave story said Joseph Henry T-Bone Burnett, who produced the 
 soundtrack for O Brother, Where Art Thou?, which sold 8 million copies, 
 and collaborated on Crazy Heart will do the music for Blue Moon.

 Callie Khouri, who grew up in Paducah and wrote 

Re: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe

2010-09-17 Thread Steve Cantrell
Lol. That was the same thing I said. Don't you mean Kentucky? Mandolin lessons 
in Kentucky.

Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote:

Peter Sarsgaard, 39, is cast as Monroe. 

I talked to Peter
 on the phone the other day, Woodward said. He was in New York taking 
mandolin lessons. He plays guitar, but he needs to be able to play 
mandolin for the movie.

Yea, I'm sure after a couple of lessons in NEW YORK, he will have no trouble 
playing rawhideyea right.   What I want to know is who's going to 
teach him to sing like Bill?   Good luck with that!


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From: johnhga...@aol.com johnhga...@aol.com
Subject: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe
To: m...@yahoogroups.com, deepgr...@yahoogroups.com, 
taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 11:32 AM


Saw a link on mandolincafe.com to another article about the Bill Monroe movie 
that's in the works...


 


John


 


 


http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/yb/149878570


 


Producer hopes to shoot part of film in Rosine and Owensboro








Sept. 16--Bessie Lee Mauldin was 17 when she met Bill Monroe in the fall of 
1938. 

He had just turned 27, was already a singing star with his brother, Charlie, 
in the Monroe Brothers -- and was married. 

But three years later, Monroe, by then a member of the Grand Ole Opry, moved 
Mauldin to Nashville and made her his road girlfriend, Richard D. Smith 
wrote in Can't You Hear Me Callin', his 2000 biography of the father of 
bluegrass music. 

Over the next four decades, Monroe and Mauldin had a turbulent romance that 
inspired several major bluegrass songs -- apparently including Blue Moon of 
Kentucky, Smith wrote. 

Now, a Hollywood company is gearing up to film a movie based on Smith's book. 
And the producer, Trevor Jolly, hopes to shoot part of it in Owensboro and 
Monroe's hometown of Rosine, he said in an e-mail. 

I've read the script, said Owensboro businessman Terry Woodward, who is vice 
chairman of the International Bluegrass Music Museum. It's a love story about 
Bill and Bessie Lee. 

And that worries Campbell Mercer, executive director of the Jerusalem Ridge 
Foundation, which owns Monroe's childhood home and farm in Ohio County. 

My concern is that the film not make a mockery of Bill, Mercer, a keeper of 
the Monroe flame, said Tuesday. It's based on a book by Richard D. Smith. It 
was a book that needed to be written, but it was written by the wrong guy. 

Mercer would prefer a movie that focused on Monroe's music, not his 
infidelities. 

But Mauldin is considered to have been Monroe's muse. 

Their child, which she gave up for adoption, according to the book, inspired 
the song, My Little Georgia Rose. 

And Mauldin, a bass player with Monroe's Blue Grass Boys off and on for two 
decades, played on 99 of Monroe's recordings. 

Reminded that the soundtrack for Bonnie and Clyde, the 1967 movie about 
gangsters Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker, contained a lot of bluegrass music 
and brought a lot of new fans to the genre, Mercer said, This time I'm afraid 
Bill is going to be Clyde. 

Funny stories out there 

Still, he says, there are some awful funny stories about Bill and Bessie Lee 
out there, including one about Mauldin wrestling another of Monroe's 
girlfriends to the ground in North Carolina. 

Maggie Gyllenhaal, 32, who was nominated for an Oscar for her role in last 
year's Crazy Heart, recently told ScreenCrave.com that she will portray 
Mauldin in the movie. Her husband, Peter Sarsgaard, 39, is cast as Monroe. 

I talked to Peter on the phone the other day, Woodward said. He was in New 
York taking mandolin lessons. He plays guitar, but he needs to be able to play 
mandolin for the movie. 

Woodward said: He's very enthusiastic about the movie. He said his father was 
a big bluegrass fan. 

The ScreenCrave story said Joseph Henry T-Bone Burnett, who produced the 
soundtrack for O Brother, Where Art Thou?, which sold 8 million copies, and 
collaborated on Crazy Heart will do the music for Blue Moon. 

Callie Khouri, who grew up in Paducah and wrote Thelma  Louise, wrote the 
script. She and T-Bone are married, Woodward said. 

Jolly, whose credits include being sound supervisor on American Beauty and 
The Whole Ten Yards as well as on episodes of Lost, The Shield and 
Alias, is producing. 

Finn Taylor (The Darwin Awards, Cherish, Dream With The Fishes) will 
direct. 

Taylor has visited Owensboro four times and Jolly, three times so far, 
Woodward said. One day when they were here, we walked down to the Famous 
Bistro for lunch, he said. They said they liked some of the buildings 
downtown and might want to film some here. I just listened. 

Yes, hoping to shoot scenes at Rosine and Owensboro, Jolly said in an e-mail 
Tuesday. Too early for specifics though. 

Woodward says the movie should be filmed in Kentucky. 

Monroe was born -- and is buried -- in Kentucky. His band and the genre 

Hey all--let's hear it about camp

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Cantrell
Just thought I would check in with the group and say...howdy. How was camp? 
It's 
a Monday, and I am down here in the salt mines, so by all means share and share 
about Monroe camp. The pictures I saw on Facebook made me slappy. 


My wife and I are still doing some daily woodshedding with fiddle tunes and 
have 
really been enjoying it. We're on to around forty now and have steadily worked 
on getting them up to about 120bps, practicing them in a rotating schedule. We 
try to add a couple a week from a list the rest of our group has compiled. 
Still, I have made a huge effort to focus on quality and not just the 
quantity...although I guess that might be in the ear of the beerholder.

Anyway, here's the latest: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--fig6Euj24Don't know why that copied link came 
out so large, but I will leave it that way for emphasis. 

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Re: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!!!!

2010-08-24 Thread Steve Cantrell
My daughter reminds me of this point often.

nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:

As in most of life...I am not as cool/good as I want to believe.

It is very helpful.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:13:22 
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Subject: Re: HEY!!

I know what you mean, Nelson. At first I could have just rolled on the floor, 
but now I record myself every afternoon, both with a Kodak HD camera and 
usually 
either the iPad or a Zoom H2 set up as a USB mic on my laptop. It gives me 
both 
a video and audio record.  I learned a LOT about the way I was playing by 
watching and listening to myself...mostly just that I was playing too 
forcefully 
and was killing my own technique. I probably still play too forcefully but I 
have been able to zero in on taking it easy...and have found that my playing 
is 
much better, at least to my ear...





From: nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:54:54 AM
Subject: Re: HEY!!

I'm working on a few Monroe standards, recording myself and cringing during 
playback.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From:  Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net 
Sender:  taterbugmando@googlegroups.com 
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:24:11 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: HEY!!

Been learnin' tunes and hanging around the house, mostly. Been too damn hot to 
do much. 


I also picked up an iPad this week and have been playing around with that 
thing 
almost non-stop. Wanted to make it to Monroe Camp this year but have been 
on-call every weekend for two months and don't see it stopping. I like the 
money, but sheesh

I am heading to Laurel Bloomery, TN for the OT picking there this weekend. A 
couple of nights in a tent, likely a bottle of Johnny Walker. All is well. 
This 
will be the first festival my wife has attended with me as a picker, so 
looking 
forward to that as well. 


I have been experimenting with stainless steel strings. Got some D'Addario and 
absolutely loved them. Sounded great from the get-go and only took them off 
when 
the threat of  tetanus was looming. Tried to order some from Elderly but they 
hosed up the order. They made it right but wound up sending Bush Monels as a 
replacement. They're pretty jangly when new and it takes some time to wear 
them 
in, but they sound great when they hit their stride. I have four sets, so I 
guess that's plenty of time to get used to them. 










From: Jonathan Trawick fiddlinarkan...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 9:00:15 AM
Subject: Re: HEY!!

heard you had a sweet session with an arkansawyer recently.  what was y'all 
workin on?


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:56 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com 
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Boy now, I'm telling you, this is the most TALKATIVE bunch of folks
I've run into in a while! What're ya'll doin?
Taterbug

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Re: Garfield

2010-08-05 Thread Steve Cantrell
Agreed on enjoying these videos. It might put me on the..trail?...of the whale. 

Call me Ishmael.






From: Mark Halpin tomas...@yahoo.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 5:52:52 AM
Subject: Re: Garfield

Thar she blows! this is a nifty little thread and thanks to those who
offered up their versions of this tune for perusal, i like being able
to view and listen to these different takes on the tune, i have to say
to Don that i do like your version, it almost seems more like an Old
World Irish/Scottish tune when played like that,

again, thanks folks

On Aug 1, 2:05 am, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would someone who knows this tune tell me if I'm on the trail of the
 whale or if I've been blown way off course? Took some from slowing
 down Tater's version on NBB and changed some things so I could play
 it. Still way slow.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COnJ6gjf8wg

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Re: Garfield

2010-07-29 Thread Steve Cantrell
I've given a lot of thought to this topic lately, Linda, mostly because I have 
recently gotten into a contra dance band that plays entirely OT standards. The 
old time in the Piedmont area of SC/NC/GA isn't the same sort of old time that 
gets adhered to in some places. It has much more African influence, and I just 
don't think you can get the mountain and bluegrass out of it no matter if it 
is academically picked apart a million ways. It's just there and you can hear 
it. It is much looser, and generally even an old time jam is come as you 
please, just play the melody. Not nearly as uptight as it is just over the 
border in Asheville, where a chop chord might get you ran out of town on a rail.

At first I thought rhythm, that I would play rhythm and try my best to put 
whatever flourishes in there to make it entertaining. Eventually, the fiddle 
player told me to jump on the melody with him and away we've gone, and for my 
money it is dance music with...muscle, maybe. The mandolin adds a great deal to 
it.

I think a good example of this approach is the Foghorn Stringband. Caleb 
Klauder 
gets right in there with the fiddle player and they pick the melody together. 
It 
takes practice to get that syncopation right, but once you've got it, you're 
cooking with...old time butter.

Just my two cents, but honestly, I don't think the real old timers--the guys 
who 
actually played this stuff back in the day--would turn you out unless you 
couldn't keep time. Guys that made their strings with guts and banjos with 
gourds would probably not bat an eyelash if you want to play the melody...or 
not.





From: Linda lj...@intas.net.au
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 9:50:43 PM
Subject: Re: Garfield

I always wonder about mandolin in an old-time setting.  Its not a
fiddle.  Seems like the Tater managed a good run through to suit a
mandolin - banjo duo. Mighty fast pickin too.  How many ideas are
there out there ...for mando and guitar or mando and fiddle duo, mando
and banjo duo, playing old time, how many possibilities or approaches
have folks seen or thought of?  In groups here, doing old time tunes,
mandolins are mainly wanted for chops, they can really help the rhythm
but it can be boring.  I keep looking for ideas for mando to play part
tune and part chords...have found a few.

That is where Mr. Monroe comes in as I think he worked those ideas out
pretty good.  Looking and listening it seems to me he played double
stops now and then, simplifying the melody, but went heavy and perhaps
funky with right hand to boost, accent the rhythm side. That seems to
be where he did his 'talking'.

Solo ...well then one can show off the picking technique, also one can
display great technique getting all the notes in with mando and guitar
duo, me thinks.

I would like to know more about Mrs. Haley's technique.
It is a great tune hey?
linda

On Jul 29, 1:25 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy all,

 I put a copy of this file on my server for anyone that wants to
 download it. It's a .mp4 so you can open it in QuickTime 7 and slow it
 down to your heart's content (as long as your heart is contented with
 QuickTime's slowest setting).

 Here's the file:http://dasspunk.com/garfields.mp4

 And here's an explanation of slowing down video/audio in 
QuickTime:http://dasspunk.com/2008/slowing-down-those-hot-licks/

 Hope this helps!
 Brian

 On Jul 28, 4:50 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Don,
  The danged mandolin player didn't play the dots, but would sure like
  to figger out a way to do it. Haven't figgered it out since 2000. Big
  white Mutha Whale it is. Also, there's only two parts being
  represented here, not the crooked part towards the end. Yet another
  thing to do.

  Tatuh

  On Jul 27, 7:21 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

   My program for grabbing youtubes won't work on this one but I finally
   figured out there's no C part, duh. I've got the version off of 20
   Year Blues slowed down to see what the TaterMasher did to the dots.

   I started this one a long time ago and gave up. Time to try it again.
   Great white whale tune, indeed.

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Garfield

2010-07-26 Thread Steve Cantrell
Another white whale tunebut this video sure helps with the left hand 
visibility. Will never get this one right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y96JkIhjknI

Would LOVE to hear this pair in person. I hope there's a recording in their 
future.

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Great channel, this one...

2010-07-26 Thread Steve Cantrell
One more from that same channel. David Davis has it going on. 
http://www.youtube.com/user/kdhx#p/f/39/SxDTi19nEQc

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Re: Hey!

2010-07-04 Thread Steve Cantrell
Down at the beachlittle taters in the sandy land, if you will. That gives 
me an idea. I think Garfield's is in the files section.

Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey deep. I found regular notation music by googling it. In the end i
found it less stressful to learn it from the music than to tab it out!
Let us know what you decide to do with the long notes
Best, robin

2010/7/4, Guido Bos gu...@stringwiseacoustics.com:
 And what a great tune that is !!


 On 04/07/10 12:56, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:

 yes tater! can i get a tab for Garfields blackberry blossm anyhow?

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:22 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 What's going on? Is anybody talking on this danged thing? P. Tater

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Re: More GDGD fun

2010-06-24 Thread Steve Cantrell
One more sans glasses and I'll stop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy9GI-wK0rE

Stopping at Wilson's five and dime and picking up a pair on the way home for my 
erstwhile companion. Deep, if you want to email me your address I'll put one of 
those little padded envelopes in the snail mail to you. 






From: Patrick Hanly patrick_ha...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 4:06:43 PM
Subject: Re: More GDGD fun

Nice arrangement and well played.

What mandolin is that you are playing (I do like the way it sounds very much).

(Although I understand that tone has everything to do with the player as well 
as the instrument. There was a story were Bucky Pizarelli was recording in a 
studio and, finishing a cut, he came into the control room and the engineer 
said, gee, Mr. Pizarelli, that archtop of yours certainly sounds great to 
which Bucky replied, Oh yeah? There it is on that stand in the corner. How 
does it sound now?)

Pat 

On Jun 22, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Don wrote:

Here's The Girl I Left Behind Me in GDGD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdpZqa81Upo

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Re: More GDGD fun

2010-06-23 Thread Steve Cantrell
And some good old fashioned GDAE. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhTewUn_s5I

Glasses are forthcoming.






From: diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 3:15:01 PM
Subject: Re: More GDGD fun


hahaha
 
yea just making sure i get hired in a bandnope it only looks like the 
gibson... the nose is very much there look closely and the glasses they dont 
ship them this far do they!

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:31 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Yea Deep! What's the guitar? Looks like Gibson inlay. Come on now,
give it up...didn't notice the nose and glasses on you either...
Bugs


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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1T7Djjymc

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Re: All about Mrs Haley

2010-06-22 Thread Steve Cantrell
Brian mentioned his love for the duet and it is something I have really come to 
enjoy, probably far more than the full band. From my perspective, part of it is 
that in order for me to pull it off effectively I almost HAVE to keep it 
simple. Every little mistake is amplified when you don't have a screaming 
banjo, bass and fiddle to cover up your flubs. Distilling things down to just 
the melody, removing needless licks or tricks or whatever has improved my 
playing noticeably (or at least that's what I am telling myself). I wish I had 
started doing it far sooner. 





From: Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 8:43:16 AM
Subject: Re: All about Mrs Haley

Me too!  And Doc Roberts playing is beautiful.  I love that Honeymoon Stomp, I 
have been working on it and plan on playing it in Kentucky on my Honeymoon.

On Jun 21, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Tud Jones wrote:

 Don't want to veer to far off topic but I've always dug the mando
 backup in the Hoyt Ming recordings...http://www.youtube.com/watch?
 v=77DqfsT_rF8feature=related
 
 
 On Jun 21, 12:10 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I reckon another way of saying that, or a clearer way, is that
 Monroe's right hand didn't always play the 'rhythm melody' when the
 left hand was, nor did his left hand always play the melody when his
 right hand was. Then, there's that abstract thing to consider, and the
 implied notes, and...Oh what the hell, it's *just* bluegrass mandolin.
 How could it *possibly* be that difficult or advanced?
 
 Bugs
 
 On Jun 21, 9:28 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sounds like to me you guys have got it well in hand. My ramblings
 about Ella and her methods are purely my own way of understanding what
 she's doing, but I think this all bears out pretty well to the test.
 To me, Ella is a step ahead of fiddlesticks players, dancers and
 drummers when they play melody with percussion only(not that drums
 don't have pitch). It sounds like Monroe took the same idea and played
 it with tremolo, not just chord strums, and built melody and rhythmic
 backup too, though I don't think his use of it was always related to
 the melody specifically, but oftentimes to an alternate rhythmic
 pattern built into the melody.
 
 All this thinking makes my head hurt.
 TBug
 
 On Jun 21, 8:47 am, Mark Halpin tomas...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I think one of the advantages of say trios or duets is that it demands
 that the instruments are shifted from their normal sound space and
 have to find new voices to support each other.
 
 The genius of Bluegrass, for instance, is that each instrument has its
 own sound space and as a result they all support each other, but, the
 danger with that is that the space can become so defined that it can
 also serve to limit the possibilities for each instrument.
 
 Approaching even bluegrass material as a trio or duo straight away
 offers you the difficulty of freedom... just how do you fill for the
 missing instruments on the selection that you have left?
 
 I think it was earlier in that same interview that Mr. Tater mentioned
 encountering the same trouble when working on the album with David
 Grier, that the bluegrass chop just wouldnt cut the mustard in that
 situation, so new backup solutions on the mandolin had to be found.
 For me that right there is the interest, that someone is kinda kicked
 from their comfort zone and they have to engage their imagination and
 ear again (thats not to imply that Mr. Tater was not being imaginative
 before the Grier album ;-)
 
 Also i think that the more stripped back nature of a two or three
 players does not leave much for a musician to hide behind, in my
 opinion, it demands that you listen to and interact more with the
 other players, and thats where the natural familiarity of family
 groups like the Haleys, Stanleys, Louvins, Monroes etc plays an
 advantage lending a second-nature to the interaction... and we all can
 marvel in the wonder that sort of initmacy can produce in music.
 
 The real wonder for me though is when you have a group of musicians
 who are unused to each other, or, as i said above, are shunted from
 their traditional roles and are flying by the seat of their pants,
 sometimes yes sir, the results can be ragged other times it can
 produce moments of pure unexpected adrenalin fueled magic .
 
 On Jun 21, 2:44 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sign me up for trios too. Myself, my fiddler Paul and Bob Black sat
 down one night and played as a trio for about 4 hours straight. With
 no guitar player to hold us back, them were some lively tunes! Bob has
 great rhythm sensibilities himself and it was a joy to play off each
 other.
 
 I also find it interesting that--for whatever reason--my love of the
 duet seems to be shared with a number of folks on this list... it's
 nice to know I'm not alone!
 
 Brian
 
 On Jun 18, 8:28 am, Mark Halpin 

Re: Interesting Monroe Find

2010-06-22 Thread Steve Cantrell
I don't know about the quality on this one. The archive version sampled on the 
article is much better. This quality seems to improve as the show goes 
along...but I guess it is what it is for 1955.






From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 10:09:17 AM
Subject: Re: Interesting Monroe Find

Thanks for that, Steve,
I have this recording on a cassette from years ago, but don't rightly
know where it is. This might be better quality anywho. Amazing stuff.
All played nearly a year before I was born. Feels like I missed a
lot...
Taterbug

On Jun 18, 9:16 pm, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I haven't seen this show on SugarMegs or the like, and thought I would post 
 it here. I have been on a hunt for a 1980 show today that seems like a wild 
 goose chase and in the process ran across this 1955 recording from the New 
 River Ranch. Charlie Monroe joins Monroe for a number of songs in their old 
 duo format and he is in fine form. Some really great picking. You can read a 
 short excerpt on it 
 here:http://www.lib.unc.edu/blogs/sfc/index.php/2009/12/07/the-monroe-brot...

 And you can find the recording itself 
 here...http://www.sendspace.com/file/ox3zk0

 Bill Monroe and the Bluegrass Boys
 05-08-1955
 New River Ranch
 Rising Sun, MD

 SBD

 Various sets with the BGB, Charlie Monroe, and Bill and Charlie.

 DISC ONE

 01. Cheyenne
 02. I Bowed My Head and Cried
 03. Shenandoah Valley Breakdown
 04. Sugar Coated Love
 05. Muleskinner Blues
 06. Wait A Little Longer Please, Jesus
 07. Walkin in Jerusalem
 08. Wheelhouse
 09. When Golden Leaves Begin to Fall
 10. When Cactus Are in Bloom
 11. Footprints in the Snow
 12. Rawhide
 13. Tall Timber
 14. In the Pines
 15. Bugle Call Rag
 16. Girl in the Blue Velvet Band
 17. Uncle Pen
 18. Rocky Road Blues
 19. Get Up John
 20. In the Shadow of the Pines
 21. Willow Garden
 22. Kentucky bound
 23. I Know You'll Understand
 24. What Would You Give?
 25. Nine Pound Hammer
 26. Leave Me Alone Little Darling
 27. Down Where the River Bends
 28. I've Found the Way
 29. Got to Walk That Lonesome Valley
 30. Theme
 31. Katy Cline
 32. Darlin Cory
 33. Lonely Little Robin

 DISC TWO

 01. The World is Not My Home
 02. Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms
 03. Jack and Mae
 04. You Call That Religion
 05. Little Red Shoes
 06. Lonesome Road Blues
 07. Bile Dem Cabbage Down
 08. Good Morning to You
 09. Band Intros
 10. Bile Dem Cabbage Down
 11. Dear Old Dixie
 12. Crying Holy Unto the Lord
 13. Just a Little Talk with Jesus
 14. Goodbye Old Pal
 15. Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms
 16. Nine Pound Hammer
 17. This World is Not My Home
 18. I Know My Lord's Gonna Lead Me Out
 19. Workin on a Building
 20. Sally Goodin
 21. Watermelon on the Vine
 22. Fire on the Mountain
 23. Lonesome Road Blues
 24. Rose of Old Kentucky
 25. Molly and Tenbrooks
 26. I'm Going Back to Old Kentucky
 27. White House Blues
 28. Feast Here Tonight
 29. He Will Set Your Fields On Fire
 30. Foggy Mountain Top
 31. Dance All Night
 32. I'm On My Way Back to the Old Home (Decca)
 33. Rawhide (Decca 46392)
 34. Letter to my Darling (Decca 46392)
 35. In the Pines (Decca 28146)
 36. Pike COunty Breakdown (Decca 28356)
 37. Bringin in the Georgia Mail (Victor)

 
 Bill Monroe Archival Project
 Direct Connect: bluegrasshub.no-ip.com

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Re: Nose and glasses

2010-06-22 Thread Steve Cantrell
I just recently acquired a set myself. Let the wild rumpus begin.






From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 3:04:29 PM
Subject: Nose and glasses

Madrid DOES have a shop that sells the official tatertube uniform. Now
nothing can stop me from uploading my attacks on the mandolin
repertoire. I will take possession of the goods on Friday. Late, but
arrived in the end. See you all on the small screen.



2010/6/22, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com:
 wow thanks!!!

 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  I don't know about the quality on this one. The archive version sampled
 on the article is much better. This quality seems to improve as the show
 goes along...but I guess it is what it is for 1955.


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 *From:* mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 *To:* Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Mon, June 21, 2010 10:09:17 AM
 *Subject:* Re: Interesting Monroe Find

 Thanks for that, Steve,
 I have this recording on a cassette from years ago, but don't rightly
 know where it is. This might be better quality anywho. Amazing stuff.
 All played nearly a year before I was born. Feels like I missed a
 lot...
 Taterbug

 On Jun 18, 9:16 pm, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  I haven't seen this show on SugarMegs or the like, and thought I would
 post it here. I have been on a hunt for a 1980 show today that seems like
 a
 wild goose chase and in the process ran across this 1955 recording from
 the
 New River Ranch. Charlie Monroe joins Monroe for a number of songs in
 their
 old duo format and he is in fine form. Some really great picking. You can
 read a short excerpt on it here:
 http://www.lib.unc.edu/blogs/sfc/index.php/2009/12/07/the-monroe-brot...
 
  And you can find the recording itself here...
 http://www.sendspace.com/file/ox3zk0
 
  Bill Monroe and the Bluegrass Boys
  05-08-1955
  New River Ranch
  Rising Sun, MD
 
  SBD
 
  Various sets with the BGB, Charlie Monroe, and Bill and Charlie.
 
  DISC ONE
 
  01. Cheyenne
  02. I Bowed My Head and Cried
  03. Shenandoah Valley Breakdown
  04. Sugar Coated Love
  05. Muleskinner Blues
  06. Wait A Little Longer Please, Jesus
  07. Walkin in Jerusalem
  08. Wheelhouse
  09. When Golden Leaves Begin to Fall
  10. When Cactus Are in Bloom
  11. Footprints in the Snow
  12. Rawhide
  13. Tall Timber
  14. In the Pines
  15. Bugle Call Rag
  16. Girl in the Blue Velvet Band
  17. Uncle Pen
  18. Rocky Road Blues
  19. Get Up John
  20. In the Shadow of the Pines
  21. Willow Garden
  22. Kentucky bound
  23. I Know You'll Understand
  24. What Would You Give?
  25. Nine Pound Hammer
  26. Leave Me Alone Little Darling
  27. Down Where the River Bends
  28. I've Found the Way
  29. Got to Walk That Lonesome Valley
  30. Theme
  31. Katy Cline
  32. Darlin Cory
  33. Lonely Little Robin
 
  DISC TWO
 
  01. The World is Not My Home
  02. Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms
  03. Jack and Mae
  04. You Call That Religion
  05. Little Red Shoes
  06. Lonesome Road Blues
  07. Bile Dem Cabbage Down
  08. Good Morning to You
  09. Band Intros
  10. Bile Dem Cabbage Down
  11. Dear Old Dixie
  12. Crying Holy Unto the Lord
  13. Just a Little Talk with Jesus
  14. Goodbye Old Pal
  15. Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms
  16. Nine Pound Hammer
  17. This World is Not My Home
  18. I Know My Lord's Gonna Lead Me Out
  19. Workin on a Building
  20. Sally Goodin
  21. Watermelon on the Vine
  22. Fire on the Mountain
  23. Lonesome Road Blues
  24. Rose of Old Kentucky
  25. Molly and Tenbrooks
  26. I'm Going Back to Old Kentucky
  27. White House Blues
  28. Feast Here Tonight
  29. He Will Set Your Fields On Fire
  30. Foggy Mountain Top
  31. Dance All Night
  32. I'm On My Way Back to the Old Home (Decca)
  33. Rawhide (Decca 46392)
  34. Letter to my Darling (Decca 46392)
  35. In the Pines (Decca 28146)
  36. Pike COunty Breakdown (Decca 28356)
  37. Bringin in the Georgia Mail (Victor)
 
  
  Bill Monroe Archival Project
  Direct Connect: bluegrasshub.no-ip.com

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Re: All about Mrs Haley

2010-06-18 Thread Steve Cantrell
I have listened to a ton of it and have done my best to emulate it when I can 
get away with it...I would call it a mix of rhythm and melody. To me it fits 
the duo style perfectly. I am content to do some dry chopping in a full band 
since that seems to be what the straight-ahead contemporary bluegrass calls 
for, but in any other context it is much more enjoyable to play around with the 
rhythm and see what comes of it. 

I was once in a jam with some local guys who are somewhat...rigid...in their 
approach to bluegrass. I was sort of noodling with the rhythm and one of the 
guys said, Just play it straight. Hell, I thought that was what I was doing. 





From: Mark Halpin tomas...@yahoo.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, June 18, 2010 9:28:42 AM
Subject: All about Mrs Haley

Some of my favorite Tater ventures have to be on 'The Speed of the Old
Long Bow' and t'other John Hartford old-time-fiddler-tribute albums...
i dont dance much but i knows they do make for fine jogging musics.

From one of the old Co-mando interviews Mr. Tate tells that John
Hartford was looking for something along the lines of what Ela Haley
was doing on mandolin. Hers how its put in the interview

'Haley's wife Ela played taterbug (or roundback for you yanks)
mandolin on the recordings. She played simple chords with a heavy-
handed rhythm and that's what John said he really wanted me to do. I
thought it was a very primitive way to play mandolin until I started
to notice Ela seemed to be playing the melody line, but with chords.
In other words, her right hand played the melody, her left played
chords. It's sort of the same thing tap dancers do I guess.'

Now, given that those Ed Haley recordings seem to be both rare and
pricey i have'nt much of chance to hear what exactly is going on with
the original recordings, i'm actually just going through the some mp3
samples at the moment and i'm beginning to hear the sound i associate
from the Hartford albums.

Now i'm wondering if anyone here, not just Mr Taterbug though it'd be
interesting to hear his views, have paid much attention to Ela Haley's
playing or have tried to adapt it into their own playing?

If so, what attracts you to that style of playing, any observations
about it,  in particular i'd wonder how do you think it sits with the
Monroe style?

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Interesting Monroe Find

2010-06-18 Thread Steve Cantrell
I haven't seen this show on SugarMegs or the like, and thought I would post it 
here. I have been on a hunt for a 1980 show today that seems like a wild goose 
chase and in the process ran across this 1955 recording from the New River 
Ranch. Charlie Monroe joins Monroe for a number of songs in their old duo 
format and he is in fine form. Some really great picking. You can read a short 
excerpt on it here: 
http://www.lib.unc.edu/blogs/sfc/index.php/2009/12/07/the-monroe-brothers-live-at-new-river-ranch-1955/

And you can find the recording itself here...
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ox3zk0



Bill Monroe and the Bluegrass Boys
05-08-1955
New River Ranch
Rising Sun, MD

SBD

Various sets with the BGB, Charlie Monroe, and Bill and Charlie.

DISC ONE

01. Cheyenne
02. I Bowed My Head and Cried
03. Shenandoah Valley Breakdown
04. Sugar Coated Love
05. Muleskinner Blues
06. Wait A Little Longer Please, Jesus
07. Walkin in Jerusalem
08. Wheelhouse
09. When Golden Leaves Begin to Fall
10. When Cactus Are in Bloom
11. Footprints in the Snow
12. Rawhide
13. Tall Timber
14. In the Pines
15. Bugle Call Rag
16. Girl in the Blue Velvet Band
17. Uncle Pen
18. Rocky Road Blues
19. Get Up John
20. In the Shadow of the Pines
21. Willow Garden
22. Kentucky bound
23. I Know You'll Understand
24. What Would You Give?
25. Nine Pound Hammer
26. Leave Me Alone Little Darling
27. Down Where the River Bends
28. I've Found the Way
29. Got to Walk That Lonesome Valley
30. Theme
31. Katy Cline
32. Darlin Cory
33. Lonely Little Robin

DISC TWO

01. The World is Not My Home
02. Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms
03. Jack and Mae
04. You Call That Religion
05. Little Red Shoes
06. Lonesome Road Blues
07. Bile Dem Cabbage Down
08. Good Morning to You
09. Band Intros
10. Bile Dem Cabbage Down
11. Dear Old Dixie
12. Crying Holy Unto the Lord
13. Just a Little Talk with Jesus
14. Goodbye Old Pal
15. Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms
16. Nine Pound Hammer
17. This World is Not My Home
18. I Know My Lord's Gonna Lead Me Out
19. Workin on a Building
20. Sally Goodin
21. Watermelon on the Vine
22. Fire on the Mountain
23. Lonesome Road Blues
24. Rose of Old Kentucky
25. Molly and Tenbrooks
26. I'm Going Back to Old Kentucky
27. White House Blues
28. Feast Here Tonight
29. He Will Set Your Fields On Fire
30. Foggy Mountain Top
31. Dance All Night
32. I'm On My Way Back to the Old Home (Decca)
33. Rawhide (Decca 46392)
34. Letter to my Darling (Decca 46392)
35. In the Pines (Decca 28146)
36. Pike COunty Breakdown (Decca 28356)
37. Bringin in the Georgia Mail (Victor)


Bill Monroe Archival Project
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The Armstrong Twins--Mandolin Boogie/Big Mon

2010-06-13 Thread Steve Cantrell
Goofing around this afternoon and ran across this one--really great stuff. 
Floyd and Lloyd Armstrong, doing some standard brother duet stuff. Being twins, 
I guess it's uber brother duet stuff. Fun to listen to and pay along with and 
thought I would submit it for the list's consideration. Psstif you were 
looking around really hard you could find it here. I have no idea whose this 
is, but there you have it should you be so inclined... 
http://www.mediafire.com/?z2omydzz5x2

Also, my wife has recently taken up guitar. I don't know if anyone on the list 
has a significant other that is also a musician, but I would recommend this a 
100 times over. She and I have had a fine time playing every afternoon, and it 
surely beats the hell out of couch or internet surfing. It seemed like it was 
just a matter of her learning the chords to one song and then her lightbulb 
came on. Here's she and I working on Big 
Mon...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFFNUxrVOgE

Anway, just killing some time on a Sunday. Have fun, ya'll.

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Re: Reelfoot Reel

2010-06-11 Thread Steve Cantrell
I ALWAYS get the clams before doing a video. I play fine if I am recording with 
someone else or out anywhere, but put me in front of that camera and I can't 
play a lick. 

14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks fellas...yes I do believe that is a technical mandolin term!

I've been on guitar flat picking kick lately so I've been neglecting
that Gilchrist...it's been dormant for a few weeks.
There was a big discussion about about whether instruments open up'
after a time on the Mandolin Cafe.
I'm a firm believer that they do and that Gilchrist has changed since
I first got it. I also believe they got to sleep
even after just a little while. After a three hour gig that thing
screams!

I was banging on that for about 1/2 hour yesterday before I recorded
it. I probably should have waited a little longer but I got a
reasonably good take.

Anybody else get a case of the clams when trying to record YouTubes ?
I tried laying down Red Haired Boy on guitar yesterday morn but after
about 20 attempts I gave up and broke out the Gil.

p.s. If it told you i was wearing the nose and glasses would you
believe me?



On Jun 11, 1:34 am, M. Marmot tomas...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Me like, that first bada-chum-chum-chum (i'm sure thats the technical
 term) had me grinning, and this early in the morning thats no mean
 feat. Good on you sir!

 On Jun 10, 7:10 pm, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've been working on this one on and off for a while. Still needs work
  but thanks to Tater for helping me get this far:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoVGBN6MT44

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Re: Digest for taterbugmando@googlegroups.com - 5 Messages in 3 Topics

2010-06-07 Thread Steve Cantrell


I've got some Pickens Co. mountain-style...homebrew that I could throw in 
there. Just don't light a match for at least five minutes.



From: Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 6:48:48 AM
Subject: Re: Digest for taterbugmando@googlegroups.com - 5 Messages in 3  Topics

What time of year are we talking Late september?  Looks like
Meridian is only 8 hours from houston.  I'll bring the cured meats to
go in the beans and the Belgium style home brew.

Adam

On Jun 7, 5:26 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd do it, and may still contribute to the Nose and Glasses tune site.
 It just takes some of us a while to work up to it.
 val

 On Jun 6, 9:23 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:



  Okay, it's a done deal then. We'll all meet at Clarko State Park south
  of Meridian and rent about 50 cabins (there's over 200 folks on this
  list) and have a blow out. Hopefully, there'll be more commitment to
  this idea than there way to the 'Nose and Glasses' tune site. Seems
  like I'm the only one that was willing to pay the price.

  Taterbug

  On Jun 4, 11:25 am, Jonathan Trawick fiddlinarkan...@gmail.com
  wrote: i'll brang the beer and x-lax!  sounds like a great mississippi 
  late fall
   idea.  get 'r done, tater!

   jt

   On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:09 AM, mistertaterbug 
   taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

Welcome to the food network. G I can see there are a bunch of hearty
eaters here. We should have a taterbugmando group gathering and bean
cookoff. I've have to break out my black bean soup recipe. Smoked ham
hocks, anyone?

Taterator

On Jun 3, 7:16 am, M. Marmot tomas...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Holy Hannah,  Little did we know what was started when the subject of
 bean stew was brought up :) Oh, Cassoulet is a mighty fine thing
 indeed in the autumn, especially with some good belgian beer and/or
 even a nipper of whiskey for after ;-p Another new found autumn
 favorite is Guinness Stew, oh yum.

 Now, with all this talk of bean stews why do i feel the need to watch
 Blazing Saddles again?

 On Jun 2, 5:28 pm, Adam Paul saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:

  M Cassoulet. smoked hocks, duck confit, andouille,
white
  beans and vegetables, simmered in stock, scented with garlic, thyme 
  and
  parsley.  I may need a cigarette.  That is one of my favorite
fall/winter
  dishes.

  Come on Fall, to hell with summer... especially in houston, tx
  Adam

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Fiddlers Grove in NC

2010-06-06 Thread Steve Cantrell
Hey all, 
I spent the past weekend in Fiddler's Grove in NC and it was a fine time. 
Managed to catch this list's Terry Bullin and really enjoyed it. Terry is a 
fine picker--you might have seen his YouTube videos. Definitely no slouch in 
the Monroe Department. I also go a chance to see Tom Mindte, although I didn't 
realize that was who it was at the time. Someone here on the list recommended 
his Old Time Duets CD and I picked it up and have really enjoyed it, and 
didn't realize I was watching him at a jam play some killer Monroe style 
mandolin on Saturday (probably the moonshine). Anyway, I looked him up and his 
Patuxent Partners have a number of CDs out. Good traditional stuff--check it 
out. 
Have a good week, everyone. 
Steve

I'll put a deposit down on that cabin. Just let me know. 

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Re: And now, for the finest in canned meat substance cuisine...

2010-05-21 Thread Steve Cantrell
I freely admit...to liking spam. I know it is horrible and mysterious, but 
still...put a couple of pieces of that in a frying pan with some eggs and 
cheese..that's a winner is what that is. 







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Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 8:36:30 AM
Subject: Re: And now, for the finest in canned meat substance cuisine...

The only thing missing in this is potato chips...
TaterChip

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 Yup need to go salt free when cooking with potted meat products

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I laughed...

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Cantrell
..and then immediately sit down to try to figure this out: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGIcHxXMYRg

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Re: More listening suggestion requests...

2010-05-14 Thread Steve Cantrell
Right on, Shaun. I have the audio of all this tunes on my iPod right now. Great 
stuff. I'd buy a pair. Much appreciate the recommendation...



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Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 5:42:53 PM
Subject: Re: More listening suggestion requests...

The Twilite Broadcasters.  Adam Tanner on a great '27 or '28 F4 and
Mark Jackson on rhythm guitar.  These guys have the old time sound
down!
Have you seen the Youtubes of Joe Newberry and Tater?  I wish they'd
do a recording!

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Re: More listening suggestion requests...

2010-05-14 Thread Steve Cantrell
No worries, Don. I was actually thinking solely duos, stringband style or not, 
so the Grigsby stuff is a great idea. I didn't they had done that, and both of 
those cats can sing.  That is truly all good stuff, especially the Ed Haley. 
Mrs. Haley does some crazy rhythm backing.  





From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 4:14:28 PM
Subject: Re: More listening suggestion requests...

Oops, I musta missed the stringband part. Nevermind my suggestions--I
was just concentrating on duos/trios.

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Jonathan Trawick
fiddlinarkan...@gmail.com wrote:
 let's not forget Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers.  Also, the East Texas
 Serenaders.  Any of the old Ed Haley stuff is great.  Wish I had me some...
  Shout Lulu is a local string band.  They specialize in Ozark tunes
 primarily from SW Missouri/NW Arkansas.  Good stuff!
 jt

 On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dudley Connell and Don Rigsby did at least one, maybe 2 duet CDs.
 Mostly just mando and guitar, every now and then a song has bass or
 fiddle too. Great singing and fine mando picking. Of course, Doc and
 Dawg, Skaggs  Rice, Monroe  Watson. If you want to hear some
 incredible backup on Latmandola (a wild multi scale length octave
 mandolin), check out Aly Bain and Ale Moller's Fully Rigged CD for
 some Shetland Islands/Swedish music. Two people shouldn't be able to
 make that much music. There's Travellers by Baldassari, Reischman and
 Bullock. Darrell Scott and Tim O'Brien did a CD of just the 2 of them
 in a living room--I forget the name of it. That's all that come to
 mind at the moment.

 On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
  Both Molsky and Uncle Norman take up vast space on my iPod. I don't
  think it
  gets any better...and Norman is a prime example of the art of playing
  slow.
 
  
  From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
  To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:20:45 AM
  Subject: Re: More listening suggestion requests...
 
  Hard to go wrong with anything by Uncle Norman Blake.
 
  On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Michael Hedding
  michaelhedd...@gmail.com wrote:
  not always a ton of mando but Bruce Molsky's CD's are all awesome if
  you
  like solo performances. Compton plays some good mando on Contented Must
  Be,
  one of Bruce's CD's as well.
 
  On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
  wrote:
 
  Hey all,
  I hope eveyone is staying safe and relatively dry/oil-free wherever
  you
  might happen to be. Just a question
 
  I have found myself increasingly interested in duo/trio stringband
  music.
  It seems like the more I do it the simpler my own playing becomes out
  of
  necessity. You don't have that dirge of fiddle/banjo/bass/guitar to
  cover
  the flaws...of which there are unfortunately many. So I have been
  doing a
  ton of listening in that vein--Stomp, live recordings of Mike and
  David,
  The Foghorn Duo (Kaleb Clauder is an excellent mandolin picker), the
  Kitchen
  Tapes, Skip Gorman and Richard Starkey...you get the idea. I am hoping
  that
  folks might be able to throw out some similar suggestions for me.
 
  I also saw where Mr. Long will be doing a duo tour in July, so maybe
  someone can post some audio/video? David, I have relied heavily on a
  bootleg
  recording of you and KC Groves. You pick some familiar tunes and it is
  almost a Monroe double-stop seminar. Great picking.
 
  Anyway, thanks for any suggestions you folks might have. Amazon is
  just
  dying for me to spend some money over there.
  Thanks,
  Steve
 
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Re: More listening suggestion requests...

2010-05-14 Thread Steve Cantrell
Shaun, you were definitely reading my mind. I bought all three of your 
suggestions. Definitely what I was thinking of. 





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Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 5:49:37 PM
Subject: Re: More listening suggestion requests...

Butch and Bob Waller have one called Old Photographs.  I think there
may be some other band members on a few cuts.
Jeremy Stephens and Tom Mindte have a few out.  all mando/guitar duets

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More listening suggestion requests...

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Cantrell
Hey all, 
I hope eveyone is staying safe and relatively dry/oil-free wherever you might 
happen to be. Just a question

I have found myself increasingly interested in duo/trio stringband music. It 
seems like the more I do it the simpler my own playing becomes out of 
necessity. You don't have that dirge of fiddle/banjo/bass/guitar to cover the 
flaws...of which there are unfortunately many. So I have been doing a ton of 
listening in that vein--Stomp, live recordings of Mike and David, The Foghorn 
Duo (Kaleb Clauder is an excellent mandolin picker), the Kitchen Tapes, Skip 
Gorman and Richard Starkey...you get the idea. I am hoping that folks might be 
able to throw out some similar suggestions for me. 

I also saw where Mr. Long will be doing a duo tour in July, so maybe someone 
can post some audio/video? David, I have relied heavily on a bootleg recording 
of you and KC Groves. You pick some familiar tunes and it is almost a Monroe 
double-stop seminar. Great picking. 

Anyway, thanks for any suggestions you folks might have. Amazon is just dying 
for me to spend some money over there. 
Thanks, 
Steve

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Re: More listening suggestion requests...

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Cantrell
Make that Caleb Klauder. Just had a synapse misfire there. 






From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 9:12:49 AM
Subject: More listening suggestion requests...


Hey all, 
I hope eveyone is staying safe and relatively dry/oil-free wherever you might 
happen to be. Just a question

I have found myself increasingly interested in duo/trio stringband music. It 
seems like the more I do it the simpler my own playing becomes out of 
necessity. You don't have that dirge of fiddle/banjo/bass/guitar to cover the 
flaws...of which there are unfortunately many. So I have been doing a ton of 
listening in that vein--Stomp, live recordings of Mike and David, The Foghorn 
Duo (Kaleb Clauder is an excellent mandolin picker), the Kitchen Tapes, Skip 
Gorman and Richard Starkey...you get the idea. I am hoping that folks might be 
able to throw out some similar suggestions for me. 

I also saw where Mr. Long will be doing a duo tour in July, so maybe someone 
can post some audio/video? David, I have relied heavily on a bootleg recording 
of you and KC Groves. You pick some familiar tunes and it is almost a Monroe 
double-stop seminar. Great picking. 

Anyway, thanks for any suggestions you folks might have. Amazon is just dying 
for me to spend some money over there. 
Thanks, 
Steve


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Re: More listening suggestion requests...

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Cantrell
Both Molsky and Uncle Norman take up vast space on my iPod. I don't think it 
gets any better...and Norman is a prime example of the art of playing slow. 





From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 10:20:45 AM
Subject: Re: More listening suggestion requests...

Hard to go wrong with anything by Uncle Norman Blake.

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Michael Hedding
michaelhedd...@gmail.com wrote:
 not always a ton of mando but Bruce Molsky's CD's are all awesome if you
 like solo performances. Compton plays some good mando on Contented Must Be,
 one of Bruce's CD's as well.

 On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:

 Hey all,
 I hope eveyone is staying safe and relatively dry/oil-free wherever you
 might happen to be. Just a question

 I have found myself increasingly interested in duo/trio stringband music.
 It seems like the more I do it the simpler my own playing becomes out of
 necessity. You don't have that dirge of fiddle/banjo/bass/guitar to cover
 the flaws...of which there are unfortunately many. So I have been doing a
 ton of listening in that vein--Stomp, live recordings of Mike and David,
 The Foghorn Duo (Kaleb Clauder is an excellent mandolin picker), the Kitchen
 Tapes, Skip Gorman and Richard Starkey...you get the idea. I am hoping that
 folks might be able to throw out some similar suggestions for me.

 I also saw where Mr. Long will be doing a duo tour in July, so maybe
 someone can post some audio/video? David, I have relied heavily on a bootleg
 recording of you and KC Groves. You pick some familiar tunes and it is
 almost a Monroe double-stop seminar. Great picking.

 Anyway, thanks for any suggestions you folks might have. Amazon is just
 dying for me to spend some money over there.
 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: Tombstone Junction

2010-04-12 Thread Steve Cantrell
Much appreciated, Senor Spud.




From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 9:53:17 PM
Subject: Re: Tombstone Junction

Tombstone Junction is now in the files section.
Tarred Tater

On Apr 8, 11:45 am, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 You're sure right about hearing more in it every time you play it, Terry. 
 Seems like every time I listen to it I change my approach slightly. Your 
 video seems right on to me. I have been using it and the Monroe video as a 
 reference point where I can't see your fingertips. Great job.

 
 From: Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 11:17:41 AM
 Subject: Re: Tombstone Junction

 I learned Tombstone (as best as I could) from a live Monroe show somebody 
 recorded and passed around.  It was at Tombstone Junction Park in Parkers 
 Lake, KY in 1981.  It must have been right after Bill wrote it, because he 
 introduces it to the crowd that day.  He plays it faster than other times 
 I've heard it and he plays the B part twice.  It's a cool tune and harder to 
 play than it sounds.  I'm sure I'm missing more than a few notes.  I hear 
 more in it every time I listen to him play it.

 Terry

 --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: Re: Tombstone Junction
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Cc:
  Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 8:49 AM

 I didn't see it in the files section. I have been working on it for the past 
 couple of days and pretty sure I have it...but everyone seems to do it a 
 little differently. Mr. Reilly and Mr. Bullin both play it right on to 
 Monroe's version with slight variations. I have the video of Monroe playing 
 it at the beginning of the Father of Bluegrass movie and it also seems to 
 be a variation...but it is hard to pin down on the video what he is doing. I 
 think he might have gotten a bit of tremor in his hand then and he moves it 
 a good bit...no offense intended, of course.

 
 From: Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com



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 Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 8:30:57 AM
 Subject: Re: Tombstone Junction

 Didn't tater make a tab of that one? I think I have it on my computer which 
 is kind of broken. I could try to get it off there if no one else has it.

 Mike Hedding

 On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yessir been working on that one a bit myself... fun tune.
  I think I am at least at 5 notes missing...
  Chef-brew-r-me

  P.S.  Got 3 batches of Beer working 5 gal each... Honey Wheat, English
  Brown ale and Porter!

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Re: Tombstone Junction

2010-04-08 Thread Steve Cantrell
I didn't see it in the files section. I have been working on it for the past 
couple of days and pretty sure I have it...but everyone seems to do it a little 
differently. Mr. Reilly and Mr. Bullin both play it right on to Monroe's 
version with slight variations. I have the video of Monroe playing it at the 
beginning of the Father of Bluegrass movie and it also seems to be a 
variation...but it is hard to pin down on the video what he is doing. I think 
he might have gotten a bit of tremor in his hand then and he moves it a good 
bit...no offense intended, of course. 






From: Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Cc: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 8:30:57 AM
Subject: Re: Tombstone Junction

Didn't tater make a tab of that one? I think I have it on my computer which is 
kind of broken. I could try to get it off there if no one else has it.

Mike Hedding


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 Yessir been working on that one a bit myself... fun tune.
 I think I am at least at 5 notes missing...
 Chef-brew-r-me
 
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 Brown ale and Porter!
 
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Re: Tombstone Junction

2010-04-08 Thread Steve Cantrell
You're sure right about hearing more in it every time you play it, Terry. Seems 
like every time I listen to it I change my approach slightly. Your video seems 
right on to me. I have been using it and the Monroe video as a reference point 
where I can't see your fingertips. Great job.





From: Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 11:17:41 AM
Subject: Re: Tombstone Junction


I learned Tombstone (as best as I could) from a live Monroe show somebody 
recorded and passed around.  It was at Tombstone Junction Park in Parkers Lake, 
KY in 1981.  It must have been right after Bill wrote it, because he introduces 
it to the crowd that day.  He plays it faster than other times I've heard it 
and he plays the B part twice.  It's a cool tune and harder to play than it 
sounds.  I'm sure I'm missing more than a few notes.  I hear more in it every 
time I listen to him play it.

Terry

--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:


From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Tombstone Junction
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Cc:
 Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 8:49 AM


I didn't see it in the files section. I have been working on it for the past 
couple of days and pretty sure I have it...but everyone seems to do it a 
little differently. Mr. Reilly and Mr. Bullin both play it right on to 
Monroe's version with slight variations. I have the video of Monroe playing it 
at the beginning of the Father of Bluegrass movie and it also seems to be a 
variation...but it is hard to pin down on the video what he is doing. I think 
he might have gotten a bit of tremor in his hand then and he moves it a good 
bit...no offense intended, of course. 







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Subject: Re: Tombstone Junction

Didn't tater make a tab of that one? I think I have it on my computer which 
is kind of broken. I could try to get it off there if no one else has it.

Mike Hedding


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 Yessir been working on that one a bit myself... fun tune.
 I think I am at least at 5 notes missing...
 Chef-brew-r-me
 
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Grisman/Rowan 1997

2010-04-07 Thread Steve Cantrell
Just wanted to pass along this show that's out on SugarMegs in the
event anyone might have missed it. It is Rowan and Grisman from 1997,
just doing some standards on mandolin and guitar. I have become a big
fan of string duets and really like the minimal approach. The quality
of the recording is excellent and Grisman seems to have his bluegrass
shoes on for this one. The official tag is:
DaveGrisman_Peter_Rowan1997-12-20

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Statman on Floyd Cramer

2010-04-03 Thread Steve Cantrell
Just liked this one and passing along. Leave it to Andy Statman to pick on some 
Floyd Cramer. My grandfather was an accomplished pianist and I can remember 
vividly him playing this one. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyEYtnDqH78feature=related

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Re: A tune

2010-03-24 Thread Steve Cantrell
Great playing all the way around, Don. Well done.





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Don,
Very nice tune and playing! I thought I recognized that clear tone... ;)
 
/Jonas


2010/3/24 Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com

Thanks, folks, glad you liked it. And thanks, Tater, for the CD order.


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 Primo!

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http://www.hillbillychambermusic.com/

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Re: Crickets.......

2010-03-09 Thread Steve Cantrell
I also noticed the tumbleweed, but I assumed it was just for ambiance. 




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It is very quiet on the discussion front. Nothing left to discuss,
apparently. Hello? Is anybody out there? Check, one...two...is this
thing on?test...test...calling Rangoon...

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Re: Crickets.......

2010-03-09 Thread Steve Cantrell
 and then overdub the solos later.
 Sometimes the scratch vocal is a keeper sometimes a line or two needs
 to be fixed. As far as laying down the nucleus of a tune: after about
 three takes we turn to mush so it's time to move on to another tune
 for the time being. If the overall take has a good feel/groove we go
 with it and fix any clams; if you don't know about ProTools you would
 be amazed as to what can be fixed. So it's mostly live with the
 ability to fix any stray clams; add extra parts and get the best vocal
 takes.

 We bring enough elixir's to loosen us up a bit, not too much. After 4
 or 5 hours we'll go the Italian restaurant around the corner and step
 away from the whole process.

 Two six/seven hour recording sessions have yielded us 6 or 7 tunes
 that are basically complete but still have to be mixed. Some of the
 tunes have been one take first take. Once in awhile you get lucky :)
 We space the sessions a couple of weeks apart this way it give us time
 to listen and absorb (with fresh ears) what we've done and also work
 on the next tunes. We've been happy with the progress thus far.

 On Mar 9, 10:36 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ok.
  Got practice tonight with my little group Los Cold Hearts - we are writing
  away and getting some songs ready with a view to recording, but how do you
  all record?

  When I did it before, with a rock band, it was a nightmarish process of
  doing it semi-live, then redoing everything until all track by track untill
  all my ability to tell whether it was good or not had vanished. Now I wonder
  if trying to do everything live would be equally nightmarish: doing take
  after take until you get energy and a version where nobody screws up...

  What do you all think? Oh, and do you do acoustic music in Dobly?

  On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
   I also noticed the tumbleweed, but I assumed it was just for ambiance.

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Re: Vintage Johnson Mountain Boys on Youtube

2010-01-31 Thread Steve Cantrell
That break at about 1:40 SMOKES. Holy crap.




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Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 6:35:07 PM
Subject: Re: Vintage Johnson Mountain Boys on Youtube

Hot Damthat was a powerful experience.  I bet he could sell that
look to sell just about anything...
This is the BG I like.

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 Yea, he kicked ass.  That's killer stuff. 

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 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 3:27 PM

 I don't recall how I came up on this series, but for you fans of
 traditional bluegrass and the JMB, there's a tone of great
 characteristic stuff. Start with this one:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvW5P2JG0Sw

 Also, after the first verse/chorus, check out the ...do I kick ass or
 what? facial from David McLaughlin on the mando solo. Just the best.
 I miss those guys.

 Buggly

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Re: Thought this might be of interest

2010-01-31 Thread Steve Cantrell
Ditto on that. I have been iced in over the weekend and have spent it playing 
until my fingers have fretboard dye ground in and watching these docs one by 
one. Alan Lomax makes my hair stand up a little but these are all good, 
especially the one with Tommy Jarrell. Good stuff.




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Subject: Re: Thought this might be of interest

Tud,
I forgot about Folkstreams until you brought it up. I've had it saved
for some time, but forgot about it. I've had a lot of fun watching the
video on there. Thanks!
puhtater

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 http://www.folkstreams.net/film,210
 Lots of other great stuff up there as well if you browse around.
 Banjo Spirits:http://www.folkstreams.net/film,183has Don Stover
 doing a beautiful version of Things in Life.
 Enjoy!

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Re: Bluegrass Breakdown, Andy Statman Trio style

2010-01-25 Thread Steve Cantrell
Andy's sense of style, his voicing, is contagious. I simply cannot play 
Fiddler's Blues and make it sound like a fiddle tune anymore. 






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Subject: Re: Bluegrass Breakdown, Andy Statman Trio style

There's some cool stuff in the Andy jazz course.much of it is
blues based not full ahead jazz if I remember correctly...there's a
few of dimished licks he tabs out that are very useful when playing
over the IV chordthey sound good in blues based music.

Here's a real good book for us closet jazz heads:

http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Theory-Book-Mark-Levine/dp/1883217040



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 I got that one as well. Has 6 CDs I believe. All good stuff and he  
 explains everything really clearly.

 Mike Hedding

 On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:50 PM, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com  
 wrote:



  hey DON does that come with a CD? i would love to get one for myself!

  On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  And are you going to continue keeping that to yourself, Don? Hmmm?
  TBug

  On Jan 24, 7:00 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
   Righteous right hand, too. I have his Homespun Jazz mandolin
   instruction tape/book series and he starts with Monroe and Monroe
   blues solo and builds his whole jazz instruction around the blues. I
   never got past that Monroe blues solo--just great stuff.

   On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Jason Kindall  
  jlkind...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm with Robin.  Simply 'wow'.

Jason

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  robin.grav...@gmail.com
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Apart from anything else, of which there is much, what an  
  amazing tone he
gets.

O

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Re: Starting from scratch....sort of.

2010-01-20 Thread Steve Cantrell
It seems like we seem to be focusing on the more musical aspect of 
things--appropriately so--but there is also a great deal more to life that 
that, and I think his reference to being a link in those other chains should be 
noted. Seems like it all grows or withers together. I don't mean to come off 
sounding like a Hallmark card, but I guess if you feel indifferent to your own 
personal growth then there is something wrong. It is something I ponder a great 
deal, so I totally understand where he's coming from. 





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Subject: Re: Starting from scratchsort of.

Just wanted to creep out of the corner long enough to say that I think it takes 
real guts and some pretty stellar honesty to open up to your fans and students 
like this.  Kudos to you, Mike.  I look forward to seeing where this part of 
the journey leads you.

Jason



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Okay, I've decided to go back to the drawing board. It's been looming
on the horizon for some time, bugging me, nagging at me in the back of
my mind, one of those things that I know needs doing. So here goes...

While it's true that I've taken some flack of late from uneducated
n'er-do-wells with snappy comments regarding the slop I play and how
I'm apparently luckier than Kenny G in my musical success based upon
my apparent lack of ability to be an actual musician, this is not the
basis for my conclusion that things need to change. There's a lot of
things that need changing around here really, and the musical aspect
is only one of the pieces of the puzzle. I'm getting fed up with
feeling like the weak link in so many chains, not all of them musical.
Call it a delayed New Year's Resolution list, if you will.

As middle age comes and settles in more firmly I find myself wanting
to play better, to understand more, to feel a connection with what I'm
doing that's not been there in quite some time. Yes, I've been winging
it. But then I suppose I've not fooled everybody judging by the latest
flurry of comments and my own personal feelings of musical unrest. I
need a feeling of belonging to what I'm doing, I need to feel I'm
doing it well, that it's a part of me.  So far, no cigar.

I sat here today and played Black Joke w/Variations as I do every
couple days(or so...there's part of the problem right there; lack of
consistency and regularity) and made a greater effort to play the
notes cleanly and with character. Egad. You'd think I never saw this
exercise before. I used to play at it every day, every morning first
thing, out on the porch with the mando and the 'dola to do my ritual,
my mando-meditation. But now I'm playing it and paying attention to
detail in a different way. I am reworking my right hand some due to
feeling some wear and tear over the last 38 years and it's hard, REAL
hard. I'm working on making it work smoothly and relaxed, but feeling
strong and sure. I'm watching my pick angle. I'm watching how much
motion I use to make the strokes, how I cross over strings to get to
the next, listening to the sound of the notes, the evenness of the
tremolo(or not, in this case), watching my pick angle, etc. Everything
I can think of. And I know that the more I work, the more things will
turn up that need attention.

Truth is, I spend a lot of time working, but not efficiently. I waste
30 minutes here, an hour there not focused on anything. Now I don't
mean to say that putting one's brain out of gear now and again is not
a good idea, but being on auto-pilot all the time, not filtering what
goes in and comes out, is not really a good idea. So, the tune books
are out, the paper is out, the iTunes list is open, lyrics are at easy
reach. I'm not sure I even know how to accomplish what I want to get
done. If I sit and ponder it too hard the task will just seem like too
much of a mountain to climb. Maybe in pieces small enough to chew is
the way to go, but I feel like now I have to chew all the time to get
ahead and see real success, real progress. Real progress will instill
passion for success.

I find I've got a lot more things I want to get done, and feeling I'm
playing at the level I think I should be is high on the list. I have
raised my standards for myself. I have quite a collection of material
I want to learn and explore. The list grows and I just sit and watch
it without whittling any of it away. I know myself well enough to know
that this will all nag me in the back of my mind until I do something
about it. Here I go...

mistertaterbug

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Re: Old Timey playing

2010-01-15 Thread Steve Cantrell
You've been to some different Old Time jams than I have, Justin. I'd be 
hard-pressed to show up at an old time jam with my F-style around here, and a 
buddy who plays a sort of loose, melodic style of clawhammer banjo gets 
routinely jeered. You either stick straight with the melody or you let the 
chords ring or you start feeling the ear burn. Good to know there's some who 
have the right mentality out there





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Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 2:29:45 PM
Subject: Re: Old Timey playing

Its old time, do whatever you feel like.  In my experience old timers are much 
less likely to make a comment or scowl about the way anyone is playing.  When 
you go to a bluegrass jam and play clawhammer, that's when there is trouble.


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:18 PM, root elkhun...@wbcable.net wrote:

Going to an old timey festival this weekend. Should mandolin chords be
chopped or let them ring out?

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Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam

2009-11-19 Thread Steve Cantrell
Sally Gooden in G is pretty common here in SC, and is generally known as Black 
Sally. I don't think that's meant to be racially disparaging, so no one should 
take it that way. 

I've had a lot of success with playing fiddle tunes I don't know out of the 
chord position, just as I would taking a break for a standard bluegrass tune 
that I really don't know all that well. Some people look on that as fiddle tune 
heresy, but to me it gets the job done and makes you think differently about 
the sounds--or functions, Dasspunk--that you can get out of the chord position. 





From: Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 9:39:47 AM
Subject: Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam

Some fiddlers in New England play a Sally Gooden in G, I also have  
heard Gene Goforth doing it out of G.  I really like the idea of  
learning an A tune in G in case the banjo player doesn't have a  
capo.  Just another excuse to see how different keys relate/differ  
from each other.

On Nov 19, 2009, at 9:29 AM, 14strings wrote:

 Erik I like your idea about learning tunes that are traditionally
 played out of A, in G.

 Jody Stecher does a real nice version of Sally Goodin out of G; it's
 on the Mandolin 2000 Mel Bay book.(I think Mel changed the title
 of that book since it's initial publication)

 Elliot is my favorite guitar capo; it has a thumb screw on there so
 you can get just the right amoint of tension to get a clear note but
 without putting the strings out of tune. The design lets you store
 it right behind the nut when not capoing; a major advantage in my
 book.

 D'Addario's Planet Waves just came out with a $15 capo that works on
 the same principle.

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Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam

2009-11-18 Thread Steve Cantrell
A great analogy, man, and one that I can relate to. 

I've gotten better at recognizing the functions and using them 
appropriately...but at this point I think I might be overusing the same bits. I 
think it's going to require more flexibility in my thinking. 





From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 12:30:18 PM
Subject: Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam

Because I play and am also often employed in the riveting field of
computer geekdom, I get asked why there are so many nerds that are
also musicians. This actually just happened the other night while
hanging out with Mr. David Long and the Asylum Street Spankers (great
show David!)... my answer may throw a shard of light on the improv
discussion.

Musicians often make good programmers because their jobs require
similar skills... breaking down large complex things into simple,
little pieces. Where a musician would use a note, scale, chord, song,
album, a programmer might use a variable, array, function, class,
application.

I like Mike's use of the word framework to describe Monroe's solos
but when I first read it, I thought of how Monroe also used what I
would describe as functions. (Programmer note: A function is a block
of code that performs a calculation and returns a value. They can also
accept arguments/values that allow for their officiant reuse). In
Monroe speak, this could equate to what Mike calls Monroe's Standard
C Solo. A group of phrases that Monroe used over and over, and in
different songs and keys. Perhaps more to the point would be the way
Monroe (or most folks) played out of chord shapes. Essentially tools
that allow for efficient reuse.

Of course one can acquire all the tools in the world and still not be
able to build a simple stool. So there's an additional quandary...

Brian


On Nov 18, 7:53 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 If anyone cares to, go to Remember the Cross and That Home Above
 by the Monroe/Flatt/Scruggs/Wise/Rainwater band. One is clearly B, the
 other B flat. But, they are both clearly played out of A. There are a
 number of other noteworthy cuts, The First Whippoorwill for one,
 that are played out of one key but are clearly not pitched in that
 key. So, did fucking Bill Monroe (to quote fucking Gaudreau) tune up
 or capo up? It's not tape drag. As Terry Bullin once said,Well, maybe
 he did it in the studio but surely he wouldn't have done it out in
 public. It's just silly. If the situation requires a different voice
 and the capo provides it, use it. When did it become against the rules
 to use the tools?

 I started using a capo now and then due to saving time and aggravation
 in the studio. Also, open tunings. I'd really love to use more open
 tunings. Listen to the cut on Dr. Ralph's recording of Lift Him Up.
 That's tuned open, but there were a few songs where we tuned open only
 to have TBone say that he'd like to go up a half step. Now, retuning 8
 strings on a mandolin every which way and expecting it to settle down
 in a few minutes is just unreasonable. Slapping on a capo is not,
 especially when time is money.

 As for working up solos and improvising...
 I think that maybe we can go back to the Father one more time and
 consider this approach. Over the years, if I listen to songs that
 Monroe did over a number of decades, such as Uncle Pen, On and On,
 Bluegrass Breakdown, etc, what I hear is a script, a framework over
 which variations are applied. I'm not talking about the construction
 of the song so much as I am the construction of his solos in the song.
 It seems that he worked out a solo that served as the basic pattern to
 follow, but changed small aspects of it occasionally as his whim
 dictated. But the basic script was predominantly the same. This may
 be helpful, maybe not. Just thought I'd throw it out there.

 I had a short conversation with Russ Barenburg the other day and the
 subject of improvisation came up. He said that he occasionally has
 people ask him about improvising, as do I. It's really an individual
 learning experience and there doesn't seem to be any one way to
 approach it or teach it. He said that to him it is ridiculous to
 assume that it is possible to whip out an improvised solo that rivals
 something that requires one sitting down and working it out and
 learning it over the course of say, several months. But that seems to
 be what some people assume they will be able to do with a few
 rules.  I think that it is easy to overlook the fact that the sound
 our heros have/had did not just appear overnight but took sometimes a
 lifetime of blood, sweat, and tears to acquire. There is too much
 impatience in us all.

 I think that Eric has a valid point, that being each song deserves a
 look to see what the best approach is. I agree with Eric too (Who is
 this Eric guy? He seems to know a lot of stuff...) regarding using
 tunings and capos, if a 

Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam

2009-11-17 Thread Steve Cantrell
I'm a Baptist, so everyone just let me know if they need any ideas for 
self-shaming.





From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 12:21:34 PM
Subject: Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam


The capo subject seems to rear it's head a couple times a year and I'm
curious as to the reason.

If there's a need for one on a tune, definitely use one. I don't see
that as being any different than using alternate tunings. A tool is a
tool. But if folks are using one to avoid learning to play in odd keys
or the like, they are doing their playing a disservice.

Nobody that can play well would think twice about using a capo for
certain things and they would giggle at any crap thrown their way for
doing so. This makes me think the capo question pops up because folks
are looking for permission to use one so they can avoid playing in Bb,
etc.

If you struggle in Bb or the like (and everyone does or has), practice
until you don't. Shame is an excellent motivator; use it to your
advantage. Your playing will thank you.

B



On Nov 17, 7:55 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:
 guys and gals,

 I went to a workshop on sunday and the question came up, is it ok to
 use a capo?  I am not one to use one but the instructor said when he
 laid the track on guitar he didn't remember he was in Bb, so he put a
 capo on the first fret to use the mando solo he worked up in A
 originally.  Now I have seen this guy play guitar, mandolin and banjo
 in every key uncapoed so I know he could have done it but he had
 worked out a solo and wanted to use it...

 How do you folks work up a solo for professional be it performance or
 recording(is there a difference) -vs- just an off the cuff jam scene.

 I am not at the point really of knowing the difference.

 Adam

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Going in the bag this week...

2009-11-12 Thread Steve Cantrell
...and that's a wicked kick-off.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIJtrnfC-U
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Re: Kenny Baker Tribute Shows

2009-11-09 Thread Steve Cantrell
Awesome job, man. Great picking all the way around.




From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
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Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:29:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kenny Baker Tribute Shows


Thanks all for the kind words. I am lucky to have such players that
are willing to put up with me. All the boys had such a great time
doing these shows, we're thinking of doing more of 'em. We'll see.

Thanks again everyone,
B



On Nov 9, 10:13 am, Joseph canit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I accidentally hit 'reply to author' here's my question and Brian's
 response...

 Hey Brian,

 You mentioned that all you played for the last few weeks was stuff off
 the album.  What do you think that has done for your playing?  I'm
 guessing that it has made you more of a disciplined player and
 learner.

 Great playing by the way, I especially liked your solo on Monroe's
 Hornpipe.  Very sweet!

 Peace,
 Joe

 Joe,

 Thanks for the kind words. I definitely did notice an improvement in
 my playing from having to focus in on the record. I also had to
 prepare physically for it, as two sets of Monroe is challenging for
 someone who doesn't play professionally. I played the album straight
 through twice a day for most of the past week.

 It really was a full ton of fun.

 B

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Re: Norman's sage advice

2009-11-08 Thread Steve Cantrell
I guess what I really mean by sounding like me is that I'm no longer afraid to 
NOT sound like Mike or Monroe or whomever. That was a big stumbling block for 
me before, this idea that what I was doing had to sound like X recording or it 
sucked...it took me a time to gain enough confidence to say that although it 
didn't sound like Mike picking it, it sounded ok. I think it was Fred who 
posted something on the Cafe to the effect of just play as best as you can and 
people will take notice...they don't realize the brass cajones it takes to do 
it in the first place. That piece of advice sort of stuck with me. Sorry for 
the paraphrasing. 

That being said, I steal from Mike LIBERALLY..and pretty much from anyone I 
hear that plays the style I like. Monroe, David Davis, Tony Williamson...etc. 
What makes me sound like me is that I can't deliver it like any of these 
gentleman do--I'll certainly never be mistaken for any of them...but it'll 
pass. I learned to speak from listening to my Dad talk, but I don't consider 
myself a Wallace Cantrell speaking stylist. I do my own thing..or try to, 
anyway. It's not as if by playing a tune that someone else wrote, or in a style 
that someone has developed, causes them to download into my skull until I'm 
done...especially when it comes to improvisation. If someone asked any ten of 
us to improvise on a tune, it would all be differentbut it would certainly 
have the brushing, rapid right hand and the minimalist fretting hand movements, 
the hard, bluesy punctuations on the end of the passages...you know what I 
mean. 

Anyway, I bit off enough. I'll chew. 

Also, peanut butter pie kicks ass. 




From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 12:01:29 PM
Subject: Re: Norman's sage advice


Just a few quick comments and I'll let well enough alone...


1)The common quest seems to be self-expression, to improvise, to
contribute to the conversation at hand. Why? That seems to be the
number one desire among players across the board regardless of region,
genre or level of accomplishment. Why are there so many different ways
of approaching improvisation? Why is there not one set way of teaching
it?

2)What does one do when ...the shit I do everyday... IS play music?
Uncle Doc Watson is quoted as saying that the quickest way to lose
your love for it is to do it for your living.

3)How do you know when you are playing like you? What are the earmarks
of your style that let you know you are not playing like one of your
heros? I will say this about that...I know I don't, nor will I ever
sound like Bill Monroe, but I do use aspects of his style(among
others) to play. But I absolutely cannot sit down and tell you what
my style sounds like.

4)I've got a killer black bean soup recipe and peanut butter pie
recipe if anybody wants it. Like everything else I do, I borrowed it
from somebody else. G

Back to lurk...
Taterbug


On Nov 6, 9:21 am, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I gave up trying to sound like anyone else a long time ago.  I fully
 agree that your limitations dictate your style and I've played long
 enough now that people can recognize my playing in a jam before they
 see who it is.  It's kind of a combination of fiddle style playing
 with a strong right hand.  I wish I could do Monroe-style as good as
 Spud does it, but until I get off my duff and start taking some webcam
 lessons, I'm gonna sound just like me and I'm fine with that!

 As far as mastering a style, I think that's great advice if you're
 gonna be a professional musician.  If you're a hobby picker like me, I
 doubt I'll ever master any style.  But I have a helluva lot of fun
 dabbling in several of them.  Bluegrass, old-time, and Irish/Cape
 Breton music all get some playing time at my house.  Throw in
 flatpicking guitar in an old-timey Norman Blake style and the octave
 mandolin, and my hands are full.  I do find taht playing multiple
 instruments has made me a better musician and helps me learn faster.
 And playing the octave mando.it's like swinging a weighted bat for
 my regular mando playing.  Really makes you get that pinky finger
 working.

 So much good music, so little time to learn it all!!

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Re: Norman's sage advice

2009-11-04 Thread Steve Cantrell
I had one of the best comments I'd ever heard on my playing last Saturday. A 
friend I hadn't seen in a while said, Damn, sounds good. You've come a long 
way. You even have your own style. I suppose the style he could have been 
referring to was suck, but I don't think so. I've just gotten comfortable 
with what I can do, and know where to go.

I know I'll never play the mandolin like Mike Compton or Bill Monroe or Chris 
Thile of whoever the hell--that's just my limitation, but I do a more than 
passable job at playing like Steve. I also know that I'm constantly learning 
and being more adventurous with it and try to be more confident in playing like 
myself, which is easier said than done. I try to kick myself and say, play 
harder and practice harder, but the minute this stops being fun and feels more 
like the shit I do every day sitting at this desk then there's something wrong. 

A banjo buddy asked me if I could pick mandolin on his group's CD today, so I 
can put a notch on the belt for Steve-style. For the record, that involves 
one very red eye and NOT sucking.





From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 1:33:24 PM
Subject: Re: Norman's sage advice


Lot's of good discussions here.

Andy Statman's point about completely learning ONE style I take to
heart for I am a professional Jack of all Trades and master in
none! :)  I'm a member of the lazy club too..

I think the intention of the Norman's Blake comment was not to invite
laziness but to take advantage of the natural tendency of our own
inherent phrasing.  Therefore give the best of what we have
unforced,naturally.  I don't think Norman was suggesting to leave out
chunks of content.

Perry


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Re: Your weekend music plans

2009-10-12 Thread Steve Cantrell
Now that you mention it, Robin, that's what I've been doing...double pneumonia, 
that is. I got what I thought was a little head cold a couple of weeks ago and 
neglected it. I've had some bad experiences with doctors and dislike going 
unless I just have to...and apparently this time qualified. I sounded like 
Train 45 by the time I went and they sent me home and to bed for a few days. 
I've been having some computer problems, so in light of the fact I'd be 
homebound for a bit I made the missus stop and I bought a new computer, which 
is a hoss. 8gigs ram, 600gb hard drive, triple-core processor, 24-inch monitor 
(now I have two). Just excellent. I spent the weekend messing arond with it and 
Honky Tonk Swing, which I can never get under my fingers just right. I think 
anyone else listening to it would think it's fine, but I know it's not and that 
makes all the difference. 

Steve







From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:17:44 PM
Subject: Re: Your weekend music plans

I found some time to play and sat in my little front yard, singing and playing 
some blues in G, not caring what the neighbours thought, and trying to groove, 
whilst my new, rescued dog looked at me adoringly, after our long walk through 
granite boulders, rock rose and dirt paths. Also was happy that my friend and 
guitarist appears to be recovering finally after a month of Swine flu and 
double pneumonia. Maybe we can do our gig on the 22nd, even if we won't be 
performing our new songs due to lack of practice. Also I wrote a song called 
'Orange world' on the aeroplane yesterday, and the words are good at least.
Life is always good if you catch it right.
Robin


 


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote:

Not music really, but I rode my bike up to Rosine today and visited the old 
home place on Jerusalem Ridge. A spiritual experience.

Bill in Nashville



On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:06 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com 
wrote:


You better play it right, boy...
Bugs


On Oct 9, 2:22 pm, Brian Ray dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll be practicing for this...

 Brian

 On Oct 9, 10:20 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:  
 Anybody
 have any plans for music this weekend? My plan is to do some  recording 
 at
 home this weekend. Been working on a bunch of  instrumental tunes 
 recorded
 on mando family instruments. It's time to  get them done.   What are 
 you
 doing this weekend?

  Baker Plays Monroe-c.jpg
 221KViewDownload








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Re: recording tater cam lessons

2009-10-09 Thread Steve Cantrell
Was wondering the same. I am still using the Compton/Grier pair of recordings 
from a few years ago. Good stuff.




From: Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 9:27:05 AM
Subject: Re: recording tater cam lessons


Speaking of recordings did anyone get a recording of any of the  
Midwest Compton/Grier gigs. I think those could be a lifelong study if  
anyone managed to record one.

Mike Hedding


On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:46 AM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:


 Leopard (10.5) and Snow Leopard (10.6) allow you to record iChats via
 the Video Menu/Record Chat but both parties need to be on Leopard. I
 believe LaBibbs is still on Tiger... We could fix this of course...

 B


 On Oct 8, 1:50 pm, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote:
 Warning: Conference recorder doesn't work with 10.6.1 -- Snow Leopard
 or Snow Possum or whatever. Found that out the hard way. And the new
 version of QuickTime allows you to record video chat ... but not with
 Tater for some reason. If anyone has gotten this to work, please clue
 me in. Meanwhile, I've been using Screenium, which costs money, to
 make of video of the live video ...

 On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:35 PM, 14strings wrote:





 Looks like you're using PC? If so I can't offer any experience  
 when it
 comes to recording web chats.

 If you are using a MAC and Ichat then I use something called
 conference recorder (I can post a direct link if you want); it was
 dirt cheap and works like a charm. If you upgrade to QuickTime Pro
 (also cheap) you can mark little bits of video and repeat, slow  
 down,
 speed up or even hear some backwards Tater licks
 


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Re: recording tater cam lessons

2009-10-09 Thread Steve Cantrell
I use CamStudio to record the lesson in its entirety and then replay it later. 
It basically starts a running capture of everything that happens on your 
desktop. It's not a lean application and is pretty resource-greedy, but it 
works. 




From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 8:46:02 AM
Subject: Re: recording tater cam lessons


Leopard (10.5) and Snow Leopard (10.6) allow you to record iChats via
the Video Menu/Record Chat but both parties need to be on Leopard. I
believe LaBibbs is still on Tiger... We could fix this of course...

B


On Oct 8, 1:50 pm, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote:
 Warning: Conference recorder doesn't work with 10.6.1 -- Snow Leopard  
 or Snow Possum or whatever. Found that out the hard way. And the new  
 version of QuickTime allows you to record video chat ... but not with  
 Tater for some reason. If anyone has gotten this to work, please clue  
 me in. Meanwhile, I've been using Screenium, which costs money, to  
 make of video of the live video ...

 On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:35 PM, 14strings wrote:





  Looks like you're using PC? If so I can't offer any experience when it
  comes to recording web chats.

  If you are using a MAC and Ichat then I use something called
  conference recorder (I can post a direct link if you want); it was
  dirt cheap and works like a charm. If you upgrade to QuickTime Pro
  (also cheap) you can mark little bits of video and repeat, slow down,
  speed up or even hear some backwards Tater licks

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Re: Taterbug Specials...More info please

2009-10-07 Thread Steve Cantrell
Make that one an extra-heavy for me, sir. 





From: taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 6:24:49 AM
Subject: Re: Taterbug Specials...More info please


Extra Heavy.

On Oct 7, 12:43 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 No idea, but will say heavy. Best, robin

 2009/10/7, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:



  Thanks for your orders. Looks like this will leave me to use the old
  one again...

  Here's the deal:
  I have two thicknesses, heavy and Xtra heavy. Seems like Dave Skowron
  said that the heavy is between 1.15mm/ 1.20mm and the Xtras are
  1.25mm/ 1.30mm. A lot of you have specified heavy. Given this
  information regarding thicknesses, do you want heavy or Xtra heavy?
  The sooner I have the info, the sooner they'll go out. Thanks!

  taterbug

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Re: Taterbug Specials are here!

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Cantrell
A heavy for me, sir. 





From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:35:38 AM
Subject: Re: Taterbug Specials are here!


Two heavies please... mine is past the nub and headed for the holes!

B


On Sep 29, 1:22 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm up for one

 2009/9/29, ljt lj...@intas.net.au:



  I keep losing and finding mine and if I still have mine when the new
  one arrives, then might make this next one a Christmas gift for
  someone I know who already admires the one I have...he saw it for what
  is was straight away!

  On Sep 29, 11:23 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
  I forget who all put in requests for a Taterbug Special so I'm putting
  a blurb up here on the group to announce that a new batch is on its
  way. So if I've overlooked you, lemme know if you want one or two
  or...

  Taterbug

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Re: New Skaggs CD

2009-09-27 Thread Steve Cantrell
I largely agree on Ricky's mandolin playing, and although I don't think it's 
all cringe-worthy (the would be MY mandolin playing), I do think it's just 
blahand sometimes just hokey. It could be anybody playing it. What he does 
best is marketing. The guy is a pure genius at that. That being said, he's an 
asshat. I saw him in TN and there was some no-pictures rule (wtf--is he Lindsay 
Lohan or something?) and some folks were largely ignoring that and you could 
tell Ricky was peeved over it. The band gave an uninspired performance and had 
a look on his face like he smelled something. Maybe it was me, I dunno. You'd 
think with that pack of guys he brings onstage that someone would be able to 
lay it down, but maybe the boss was in a mood. He was also flat. So there.

The new CD sounds Pro Tool'd up to me on a lot of the vocals. It's not bad, but 
it's not good. It's just blah. There's not a tune on it--maybe with the 
exception of a fiddle tune--that really got me intrigued or made me want to 
pick up my instrument and learn that mother on the spot. You'd think that hey, 
this is solo Skaggs doing some old tunes, this might be Skaggs/Rice 
worthy...but that's a no. Others may have a different impression, and that's 
fine with me. Some people drink cow urine. To each his own, I says. 

As far as this group goes, I have loved having it here. There's been more than 
a few times I would like to have spoken up on the Cafe about a thing or two but 
hated to get the boot from the mods over there. That's never been a concern 
here, and I have profited from our discussions here immensely and got a huge 
kick from it. I keep my email open at work all day and keep my eye on what's 
going on. I think we can disagree on anything, and as long as no one loses a 
tooth or has their lineage questioned then we're all good. 




From: mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:33:59 PM
Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD


I get to play and sing a number of gospel shows each year.  I never preach at 
these shows nor to I try to convert the flock to my way of thinking (born again 
atheist) but, if they want to have a discussion I'm always ready, turns out 
most of them just want to shout slogans at me and have never actually read a 
book, any book.  I sing songs about murder too but have never murdered anyone.  

I'm not quick to judge, but I have opinions.  I've met Mike, met his family, 
heard his music, (a lot) read an awful lot of what he has written and I judge 
him to be a good, honest family man with the best handle on the type of music 
that I like best.
I really do want to know his opinions whether I agree or not I know they will 
be well thought out and his own.  I really don't think I'm right all the time, 
either, or do I.


Clyde Clevenger 
Just My Opinion, But It's Right 
Salem, Oregon 
Old Circle




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Re: New Skaggs CD

2009-09-22 Thread Steve Cantrell
The words Ricky Skaggs and Superfreak are now burned into my mind's eye 
with little hope of removal. Out! Get out!



From: Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:37:09 AM
Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD

I might check it out, if someone can confirm there are no Rick James tunes on 
the record. (g)

Rick James: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qXUfp4wtw

Ricky Rick James Skaggs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFfbtaMFcW8



On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Nelson wrote:


I hope this is o.k. to address in this group.

I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening
to it quite a bit.  It is really very good.  The personal nature of
the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a
simplicity to it that appeals to me.

There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are
limited to one or two instruments on most tracks.

It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might
say.

No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message.  Maybe
next time





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Re: Celine Dion

2009-09-18 Thread Steve Cantrell
Celine? Yeah, she's straight high lonesome.





From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Celine Dion


What a disaappointment...here I am with coffee in tow all set to read
how Celine plays a mean Monroe style...





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Re: New Duff 'Dola

2009-09-16 Thread Steve Cantrell
Holy crap, Paul Duff definitely some building chops. That's one fine-looking 
instrument. You'll have to post some videos once you get this one.





From: The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:35:45 PM
Subject: Re: New Duff 'Dola


Whilst we're showing offI've uploaded a pic of my F5, now 6 months
old and working magic.
Holstein


On Sep 16, 9:30 am, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au
wrote:
 Another work of art. What a ripper!
 I wonder when you'll get it??
 HK

 On Sep 16, 8:16 am, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote:



  I thought they were pajamas cause they seemed rather largeG

  On Sep 16, 5:10 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

   If that old dola needs a home out west please, no boxers though!

   On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

You're gonna need them boxers!

On Sep 15, 11:05 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
...looks like Paul threw in a free pair of boxers too...

On Sep 15, 11:00 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Howdy Folks, howdy.
 I just got some pics of a new 17 scale mandola by our Mr. Paul 
 Hello
 Dahling Duff. He says it's very balanced and alive. Check out the
 pics on the file page.

 Can't wait to get my grimey hands on it!
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Re: Roland White's Soldier's Joy

2009-09-16 Thread Steve Cantrell
I wrongly assumed this was that same Clarence White/Roland White video I'd seen 
once before---but think that was I am a Pilgrim--but I saw this last night 
and was blown away. Excellent version of this old favorite, and Roland's hand 
movements are unusual and definitely his own thing. Hope for the rest of us





From: johnhga...@aol.com johnhga...@aol.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:38:54 PM
Subject: Re: Roland White's Soldier's Joy

 
I agree with you both about Roland.  I got to go to a workshop he did in 
Memphis a few years ago.  Roland's an extremely nice guy.  He got me up to play 
one with him during the workshop.  I told him I wanted to do Big Mon and I 
launched in to Pike County.  He told me (very nicely) when we quit that that 
wasn't Big Mon!!!  But it worked out - I got to do Big Mon with Roland too...
 
Tater, on the other hand, should be a guard at Gitmo.  At Nashcamp a few years 
ago he drilled Smokey Mountain Schottische into the class until we were all 
ready to confess!!!.

John Gay
Memphis
 

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From: Will Dennis willard.den...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: Roland White's Soldier's Joy



I'll second that... Roland came to the Monroe-Style Mandolin Camp this
weekend past, and it was a real treat to see him play (I haven't seen
him in quite a few years.) He sure hasn't lost anything in his
playing, and he is so modest about his musical gifts. He took some
great breaks during the Instructor's concert on Sat night, and it
looked like not only the audience but also the other instructors
(Mike, Skip Gorman, Butch Waller, Richie Brown and Jody Stecher) were
lovin' it.

My wife and I left the camp a bit early on Sun. so we could see the
Monroe home place, and the Monroe plot in the Rosine cemetary where
Bill, his family and Uncle Pen are buried. While we were getting ready
to leave the Monroe home place, who rolls up but Roland. He remembered
me from camp and said hi, and then my wife and I left for the Rosine
cemetery. He turned up there a few minutes later as well. When we were
getting ready to leave there, he asked where we were from, and we told
him NJ, and that we were flying out that evening from Nashville. He
told us the best way to get from the airport from I-60 (as he lives in
Nashville), and we exchanged cell numbers in case we had a problem. As
we were nearing the airport, my cell rings, and it's Roland, making
sure that we had got down there OK and weren't lost or anything. What
a kind gesture! A true gentleman.

Will

On Sep 11, 10:05 am, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Not only is Roland a great
 player, he's also one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet!


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Foghorn Duo

2009-09-09 Thread Steve Cantrell
I recall the full compliment of this outfit, Foghorn Stringband, being 
mentioned here before, and wanted to point out just how stellar the Foghorn 
Duo disc is. It's the fiddler and mandolin player from the band, but they 
swtich from mandolin, banjo, guitar, fiddle and rotate them around. The tunes 
featuring mandolin and guitar are just incredible---good double-stop heavy, 
bluesy stuff, and Caleb Klauder has a knack for the vocals. I haven't been able 
to find this album as an mp3 download anywhere (absolutely insane), but you can 
get it at CDbaby and find it streaming online. Go out of your way. 

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Re: Monroe's Evening Prayer Blues

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Cantrell
I thought that was done during a Monore/Robbins snit, likely just to cover 
something Monroe disagreed with and bury it in the mix.  





From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:29:34 AM
Subject: Re: Monroe's Evening Prayer Blues


Masters of Bluegrass is a great album...I'd love to hear it remixed
with a bit less reverb...the reverb is a little overdone on that
record IMHO

I wonder if that delay might be some bleed from another track? I
think there may be some overdubs on Monroe's records by that time.

On Aug 26, 8:17 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Thanks.  Then that explains the few tracks along there that sound like a 
 delay or chorus was used.  I just got that set and was listening to Lochwood, 
 I think it was, and remeber thinking that I would have bet against Bill 
 allowing any such trickery on his records.

  On Wed 08/26/09 12:12 AM , mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com sent:





  There's several parts, Nelson. Larry Sledge plays some, Jesse
  McReynolds too. Good ears.
  Spud

  On Aug 25, 8:41 pm,
  nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I was listening to this (Bear Family's 
  May Last
  Days On Earth set), and I thought I was hearing two mandolin parts.  Has
  anyone noticed that before?  I never have, and it surprised me.
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Re: Monroe's Evening Prayer Blues

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Cantrell
Monore=Monroe.





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:37:49 PM
Subject: Re: Monroe's Evening Prayer Blues


I thought that was done during a Monore/Robbins snit, likely just to cover 
something Monroe disagreed with and bury it in the mix.  





From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:29:34 AM
Subject: Re: Monroe's Evening Prayer Blues


Masters of Bluegrass is a great album...I'd love to hear it remixed
with a bit less reverb...the reverb is a little overdone on that
record IMHO

I wonder if that delay might be some bleed from another track? I
think there may be some overdubs on Monroe's records by that time.

On Aug 26, 8:17 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Thanks.  Then that explains the few tracks along there that sound like a 
 delay or chorus was used.  I just got that set and was listening to Lochwood, 
 I think it was, and remeber thinking that I would have bet against Bill 
 allowing any such trickery on his records.

  On Wed 08/26/09 12:12 AM , mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com sent:





  There's several parts, Nelson. Larry Sledge plays some, Jesse
  McReynolds too. Good ears.
  Spud

  On Aug 25, 8:41 pm,
  nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I was listening to this (Bear Family's 
  May Last
  Days On Earth set), and I thought I was hearing two mandolin parts.  Has
  anyone noticed that before?  I never have, and it surprised me.
   Nelson- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Dumb question

2009-08-25 Thread Steve Cantrell
I'd like to second that, Topher. 





From: Topher Gayle surfns...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:37:06 AM
Subject: Re: Dumb question


I agree! Though I'd kinda like a plate of spicy food and a load of
beer right now!

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Robin Gravinarobin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:

 probably using hand lotion and letting it absorb is better than having
 a load of beer, a huge place of spicy food and then sweating over your
 mandolin... Just a morning thought!


 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Topher Gaylesurfns...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep, seems like everybody has different body chemistry. I never wipe
 down my strings, but sometimes after loan my instrument to another
 player, I'd wish they did. The whole neck and strings and all can just
 get kinda gunked up. And then there are players who sweat quarts into
 my guitar strap and get it all saturated I rarely sweat much
 myself. Well, everybody is different.

 I guess wipe your strings if you think they need it. Just try it and see.

 I have a friend who uses hand lotion and when I borrow her pick I can
 barely hold onto it. So I don't borrow it if I can help it.

 Topher


 On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:26 PM, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Dennis Fehling denpamc...@msn.com

 Hell Be happy you got hair to get oily

 Dennis

 I was going to mention that but niceness overcame me.

 Clyde Clevenger
 Just My Opinion, But It's Right
 Salem, Oregon
 Old Circle





 www.friendsforlifedogtraining.com


 When will the madness stop.  Spay and Neuter your pets



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 Join me

 
 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:03:50 +
 From: mandoho...@comcast.net
 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Dumb question

 No matter what you hear, there are dumb questions, but this isn't one of
 them.  I have dry hands, sometimes my knuckles will crack and bleed if I
 don't put hand lotion on.  I carry a rag in my case to wipe of the inside of
 my hands when I play  and haven't noticed any string problems.  Normal
 folks naturally have oil on their hands that can smooge up the strings, I
 don't have that problem.  Now oily hair, I've got that.  Go figure.

 Clyde Clevenger
 Just My Opinion, But It's Right
 Salem, Oregon
 Old Circle


 - Original Message -
 From: Linda lj...@intas.net.au
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:48:42 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
 Subject: Dumb question


 I wonder from time to time about the connection between say hand
 lotion, or other ungents put on the hands and how that in some cases
 can effect  string sound and string life.  Even maybe certain kinds of
 soap, used to wash hands could have residues that one might want to
 avoid.

 At the bluegrass workshop I attended a while back, I noticed the Tater
 used a cloth to wipe off his hands and he kept it in his case for that
 purpose.  I asked about it and he said it was to deal with 'hand
 smooge' .

 So..another question is what exactly is hand smooge...and ..no jokes
 please!!  G

 Are these really dumb questions or has anyone run across any kind of
 info about this, or are there some opinions out there in Taterville?

 dry cracked hands here
 Linda





 


 


 



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Re: Indian Finger Lube ?

2009-08-25 Thread Steve Cantrell
How in the name of God did Indian Finger Lube get through my spam filter?





From: qball quinnb...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:26:55 PM
Subject: Indian Finger Lube ?


An Indian mandolin player Snehasish Mozumder passed through town
recently ...boasted the use of a doubleneck type mandolinI couldnt
make the show but youtubed him to see what he was about.
Stunning to say the least...
funny thing i noticed about half way through this video he reaches
down and applies something to his fingertips..
Im guessing its bacon grease or some such media .the way he's
sliding around is supernatural..I wonder if U Srinivas uses lube as
well..
Has anybody hereabouts have a chance to see this guy or know what lube
he's using?

Snehasish Mozumder Mandolin Indian Style
no doubleneck in this video...but first rate shredding...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwjXPa2SZ2Yfeature=related

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Re: Help to ID a tune

2009-08-24 Thread Steve Cantrell
Holy crap, Robin! That's it. I gave you totally inaccurate info and you nailed 
it. 

If there's a gold star system anywhere here, Robin just got it. 



From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:15:12 AM
Subject: Re: Help to ID a tune


Could be dock boggs 'country blues'? Not sure- those words represent
some popular concepts

2009/8/24, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net:
 Posted this on the Cafe and here too. Hoping I might get a nibble..

 Alright, while I was lying in my tent at Laurel Bloomery over the weekend a
 couple of guys got into the loft of a nearby barn--to get out of the
 rain--and they really started to tear it up jamming. They were picking some
 great tunes, but the downpour was vicious and at about 2am I was done, so I
 didn't get up.  The tune that actually stirred me out of sleep was GREAT,
 and I just caught the end of it. It was played with a fast, banjo strum--not
 clawhammer--and the chorus seemed to be something like I like the women and
 the whiskey and the wine, also mentions of corn liquor repeatedly. Not a
 lot to go on, but I'm primarily a bluegrass picker so it could be an
 old-time, late-night jam standard for all I know. Any ideas?
 


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Help to ID a tune

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Cantrell
Posted this on the Cafe and here too. Hoping I might get a nibble..

Alright, while I was lying in my tent at Laurel Bloomery over the weekend a 
couple of guys got into the loft of a nearby barn--to get out of the rain--and 
they really started to tear it up jamming. They were picking some great tunes, 
but the downpour was vicious and at about 2am I was done, so I didn't get up.  
The tune that actually stirred me out of sleep was GREAT, and I just caught the 
end of it. It was played with a fast, banjo strum--not clawhammer--and the 
chorus seemed to be something like I like the women and the whiskey and the 
wine, also mentions of corn liquor repeatedly. Not a lot to go on, but I'm 
primarily a bluegrass picker so it could be an old-time, late-night jam 
standard for all I know. Any ideas?
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Re: What's going on?

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Cantrell
Ditto on the Little Country Giants music. Would love to hear it. I've been 
listening intently to a recording of David and KC Groves and envying those 
slippery high-to-low slides.

Headed to Laurel Bloomery this weekend for an old-time fiddler's convention. 
Made some recordings of the group I play with regularly this past weekend...and 
be damned if it didn't sound like someone playing mandolin. Thanks Mike. 




From: Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:42:18 PM
Subject: Re: What's going on?


Hey David, 
  I think the Little Country Giants are a great band and I would love to hear a 
track or two.  Did you guys record at AJ Adams' Troubador Den Studio?  I had 
noticed on your MySpace page at one point you were listing Rome, GA as home, 
are you still around there very much?  If so, are you available for lessons?  I 
live just down the road in Carrollton and would be interested.  Any who, 
looking forward to hearing the songs.  Thanks,
Trey





 From: Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:25:19 PM
Subject: Re: What's going on?


Well  I was in Georgia recently and got a few copies of the new  
Little Country Giants cd that both Tater and I  were guests. It was a  
fun record to make. I even make my debut on snare drum.  It's on  
iTunes now, but I could post a song or two if anyone is interested.

Best to all,
Miles Long

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Mike mikebunt...@shaw.ca wrote:


 I'm looking forward to hearing your comments about touring on the
 popstar level. Elvis is pretty cool. And is it true what they say
 about the girls in Ypsilanti? Was it difficult to play your style in
 such a different context?
 I'm also eagerly anticipating the camp this year.

 On Aug 17, 2:40 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy Folks! I'm looking out my window here in SF and fixing to do  
 the
 soundcheck for the first in the series of 15 shows on the second leg
 of the Costello tour. What's going on? Where's everybody at? Not much
 life/action on the group. Come on, stir it up!

 Taterbug
 



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Cotton Fields

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Cantrell
I hate to come begging again, but I'm looking for the Monroe recording of this 
tune. I've heard CCR and Leadbelly's version and never realized Monroe had 
recorded it, I guess for Decca in the 60s. I've gone through all the online 
resources and my even my flea market Monroe compilations and can't find the 
tune for sell or listen. I'm eager to hear this one, being a fan of the CCR 
version...well, pretty much anything they did. If anyone is willing to shoot me 
a copy I won't tell. 
Thanks, 
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Re: Cotton Fields

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Cantrell
You're the man, Mike. 





From: Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:14:26 AM
Subject: Re: Cotton Fields


I've got this one, I could try to dig it up. I believe it's on the 1960's box 
set from bear family. 

This song has a great mandolin break.

Mike Hedding


On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:


I hate to come begging again, but I'm looking for the Monroe recording of this 
tune. I've heard CCR and Leadbelly's version and never realized Monroe had 
recorded it, I guess for Decca in the 60s. I've gone through all the online 
resources and my even my flea market Monroe compilations and can't find the 
tune for sell or listen. I'm eager to hear this one, being a fan of the CCR 
version...well, pretty much anything they did. If anyone is willing to shoot me 
a copy I won't tell. 
Thanks, 
Steve




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Re: Cotton Fields

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Cantrell
Thaks to all who sent the file--you're fine folks. Much appreciated. 




From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 12:59:42 PM
Subject: Re: Cotton Fields


The Bear Family stuff is great; of the four my favorite as a whole is
1950-1958.
Ever hear the Sally Jo on there? Rock and Monroe!

But Master of Bluegrass is on the eighties one and well the sixties
one has Keith, Greene and Rowan...and the first one has Bill and
Charlie and Flatt and Scruggs heck they're all good!

On Aug 7, 10:53 am, Michael Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Definitely some really good stuff on there, I have all four of them from
 1936 through the 70's. I won't comment on the price because I didn't pay for
 them myself but there's pretty much enough stuff to keep you busy for a
 lifetime. Probably 500 songs between the 4 of them.

 Mike



 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
   Speaking of, I have that Bear Family set on the Christmas list this year.
  Worth the 200, Mike?

   --
  *From:* Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com
  *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  *Sent:* Friday, August 7, 2009 10:14:26 AM
  *Subject:* Re: Cotton Fields

  I've got this one, I could try to dig it up. I believe it's on the 1960's
  box set from bear family.

  This song has a great mandolin break.

  Mike Hedding

  On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:

I hate to come begging again, but I'm looking for the Monroe recording
  of this tune. I've heard CCR and Leadbelly's version and never realized
  Monroe had recorded it, I guess for Decca in the 60s. I've gone through all
  the online resources and my even my flea market Monroe compilations and
  can't find the tune for sell or listen. I'm eager to hear this one, being a
  fan of the CCR version...well, pretty much anything they did. If anyone is
  willing to shoot me a copy I won't tell.
  Thanks,
  Steve- Hide quoted text -

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Mississippi Waltz

2009-08-06 Thread Steve Cantrell
Been knocking around on this one today after seeing Mike play it on Youtube. 
The Monroe/Baker version on the Kenny Baker Plays Bill Monroe is also 
excellent. So--any of you taterbuggers covered this one with Mike? I'm looking 
for any materials that might be had. 
Much appreciated, 
Steve

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Re: Mississippi Waltz

2009-08-06 Thread Steve Cantrell
Thanks a ton, Fred. I've got it about half-assed by ear. It sounds thin in 
comparison to Mike's and Monroe's, so wondering what I'm missing here (other 
than talent). It's always the obivious thing




From: Fred fkel...@scicable.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 5:45:21 PM
Subject: Re: Mississippi Waltz


Covered it...sorta.  But I learned it by ear and then chatted it over 
with Ole Mr. Starchy.  I don't recall any chart or anything but maybe if 
I get time today or tomorrow I could whip one up for you.

Steve Cantrell wrote:
 *Been knocking around on this one today after seeing Mike play it on 
 Youtube. The Monroe/Baker version on the Kenny Baker Plays Bill Monroe 
 is also excellent. So--any of you taterbuggers covered this one with 
 Mike? I'm looking for any materials that might be had. *
 Much appreciated, 
 Steve
 
 
  



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Re: fiddle tunes on the mando

2009-08-05 Thread Steve Cantrell
Hey Robin, 
I think Mr. Monroe was largely right about keeping that right hand in steady 
motion--it's really the only way to get around the problem of lack of sustain. 
I think the best thing I have in my admittedly small bag of tricks is a working 
slow tremelo. When you can really pull that off--and it's even and rhythmic--it 
sounds great. I also do pretty much most of what listed, especially in the way 
of drones and double-stops. Fiddle tunes seem to each have their own particular 
bounce or rushed passages, etc., that could never be translated into notation 
with any degree of sense, so listening repeatedly and having these go-to 
tools handy is the only way to play. If you listen to the Monroe with Flatt and 
Scruggs recordings Monroe repeatedly goes back to the same moves for more 
than a few of the songs, so I don't see anything wrong with it. 

As far as a tune I don't know, I pretty much lean on Third Era Monroe when 
playing with others, especially if the person calling the tune throws out 
Chipmunk Hanging in a Watermelon Vine or some other unknown stinker. There's 
every chance I'll stumble on the melody notes just by accident, and everything 
after that is pure artful obfuscation--keep my right hand moving, throw in some 
of his slide moves, that sort of thing. There was a time when doing that sort 
of thing worried me. I felt like if I wasn't playing the tune note for note 
then I was doing it wrong, but I've largely adapted a screw it, let's pick 
attitude that has improved my playing tremendously. For a tune like Honky Tonk 
Swing I'll still sweat it out, get down close to the bridge and try (as best I 
can) to get some of that Second Era Monroe in there. 

What's my point? I don't have the faintest idea, and since I haven't had my 
coffee yet there's every possibility this makes no sense at all, but there you 
have it. 
Steve







From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 5:31:15 PM
Subject: fiddle tunes on the mando

Hi all
finally got my illegal download of Ed Haley and have been listening to it 
whilst tending the stove. Also, I've been working on Jenny on the Railroad (no 
saucy comments please) and wondering about transferring fiddle tunes to the 
mandolin: I can play the thing, and have been trying to do a 'Poor White Folks' 
type position for a lot of it, but it doesn't sound right yet. We have the 
problem of transferring a very sustaining instrument to one that isn't and also 
of trying to play these tunes solo, at least in my case. What ideas and 
techniques do you all use? I find it really hard to match clarity with the feel 
that you need to get by using several strings.

So far I can think of:
-keeping a note going by tremolo, when the fiddle sustains
-making a variation when the fiddle sustains
-trying to keep at least a couple of strings going so that there is a drone
-trying to keep the drive going by listening really hard to the stressed notes 
in the original
-simplifying, Monroe style by keeping on very few notes at certain times
-figuring out a variation an octave higher or lower
-doing more rythmic variations of the notes - again like Monroe
-putting in a blue note


Would love to read some opinions about this - tone? many notes versus rhythm, 
ways of getting a drone...
good night
Robin




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Re: Ashland Breakdown video

2009-07-28 Thread Steve Cantrell
It's a fine version, Don, and that Campanella does sound great. I just added 
this tune to my repertoire this past week and felt like I had really 
accomplished something...finally picking up Rawhide this week really wasn't 
the same. I guess some of them just speak to you.





From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:51:11 PM
Subject: Re: Ashland Breakdown video


Oops, I thought that was going just to Mike.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Don Grieseradobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've had the Campanella for sale, but I've turned down several offers.
 Guess I want to keep it. I'd better delete that ad.

 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Mikemikebunt...@shaw.ca wrote:

 That campanella sound fine indeed.

 On Jul 27, 5:54 pm, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I redid this video and added the first part if anyone wants a look-see.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIqwPa2gfRA
 




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Honky Tonk Swing

2009-07-13 Thread Steve Cantrell
Hidey-Ho, 
Anyone out there on the last got a copy of Mike's HTS I could grab--tab, I 
mean? I've been working on that one this afternoon and could use the hand. 
Seems like it is mostly played out of a single posistion so I'm ashamed for 
sucking it up...but it's definitely missing something. 
Thanks, 
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Re: Speaking of Ed Haley....

2009-07-06 Thread Steve Cantrell
That's typcially the only thing I will seek for download--just out of print 
items. Otherwise I feel guilty for taking money from the players I enjoy. Well, 
that and live stuff. I make no apologies there. No reason for all that music to 
just disappear into the ether. Still feel like I should be sneaking for 
whatever reason...






From: ljt lj...@intas.net.au
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 9:54:20 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Ed Haley


Seems to me it might be...

On Jul 6, 5:29 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 same here in Spain - these sites log your ip address and can pretty much
 tell where you are these days, unless you connect through a proxy address in
 the states (people will sell you such things I believe).

 I don't know what the copyright status would be for Ed Haley - old
 recordings on an out of print cd... is file sharing ok for that?

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:28 AM, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

  This thread brings up the big picture question I have.  What mp3 sites
  sell to Australians?
  If one uses a google address can they tell ..where you are from?  I
  think the answer is yes..re rego for the groups thing and g. address.
  I have tried to purchase mp.3s and every time ...get the message ..not
  available in your country.  I don't use my google address for that
  though.  Well, I did once..and there was no joy.   I am tempted to
  begin to just ask for files from others...which goes against what I
  feel is right..to be sure the artist gets the money ..for what they
  do.

  I would appreciate it...then if fellow Aussies would clue me in..what
  sources do you use to access mp.3 products on the net.

  Hat in hand here in Tassie.

  On Jul 6, 1:40 am, Brad Floyd jess_and_b...@hotmail.com wrote:
   try this one.http://mp3.rhapsody.com/ed-haley   you'll have
   to copy and paste, I don't know how to make a link

   On Jul 4, 10:14 pm, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote:

I too tried, they said the tune was not available in my country, nor
the usa.

On Jul 5, 7:41 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks, but Europeans not apparently welcome!

 On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Have you tried here?

 http://www.mp3.com/albums/314170/summary.html?tag=albums;title;recent...

  On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Steve Cantrell 
  sec...@bellsouth.netwrote:

   ...I'm on the hunt for him tonight. Been looking high and low but
  nowhere to be found on the interwebs. Anyone willing to throw me a
  bone...or
  maybe a download, in this case?
  Steve

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Re: To stand, or not??

2009-07-06 Thread Steve Cantrell
A guy I work with recently got some of those and looks for all the world to 
have developed the palsy in his neck. I gather it's tough to decide which lens 
to look through. 





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 3:05:59 PM
Subject: Re: To stand, or not??


Val,
Just got trifocalsHELP.
Putater

On Jul 2, 7:52 pm, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
 The sheet flat on the stage for prompting purposes is a good tip for
 songs that have lyrics that are easy to screw up, but it seems like
 learning the words is a fairly early and necessary step along the way
 to getting on top of a song, getting it performance ready. I too have
 failing-memory issues at times, but going over problem words
 immediately before a gig seems to work, and I'm much happier not
 having to try to read something while on stage...particularly since
 the advent of trifocals, which do really disturbing things to lines of
 type, especially at critical moments. I do better with my aging
 memory.
 On Jul 2, 1:42 pm, Pat Murphree  phreem...@comcast.net wrote:

  Our band chose the name The Foggy Memory Boys so we can get away with 
  things like forgotten lyrics and other screw-ups. It also excuses the use 
  of stands.

  Murph

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  Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 4:58:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: To stand, or not??

  Thought I might throw this out there. The new group I’m in is having a
  little trouble remembering lyrics to our tunes at this stage, and
  we’ve got a performance on Sat night. Because we’re only doing up to
  six tunes, I suggested we shouldn’t have a music stand in sight. I
  think it looks more professional not to have a stand and you should
  know your music. Right or not so?

  Perhaps if we were doing several sets it might be a different story. I
  noticed a photo of EC and Co. on his recent tour with music stands on
  stage. It’s obviously acceptable to do this and I wonder if that was
  for a full show which is what it looked like.

  Any opinion or rule of thumb you guys go by?

  HK

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Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes

2009-07-06 Thread Steve Cantrell
You had me rare Monroe FTP site.




From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 3:16:32 PM
Subject: Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes


I've got tape/CD recordings of most all of these tunes, but not here
at the house. I've got a friend making an FTP site for it all. There's
another that's floating around...Let's Get Close Together Blues.
Sounds a lot like Tombstone Junction but better, IMO. I have CA
Forest Fire but in a couple pieces. There are a number of these tunes
in pieces on the Monroe on the Bus recordings that are floating
around such as Reelfoot Reel, Nanook of the North, Pilgrim's
Knob. There is a tune, Cedars of Lebanon that's a dandy, but I
can't find my copy of it. I had at one time, a copy of Scrooge in
it's infancy. Pretty interesting what it turned into.
Tater


On Jul 6, 9:20 am, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The ones with a * were recorded by Bill (some were live shows). Most of them 
 are on the Bear Box sets. Some of them are on the Uncle Pen Album and some on 
 the Master of Bluegrass album.

 The ones with # were on a Jimmy Campbell album. Bill played part of the tunes 
 and I think Tater played part of them. I think the name of it was Young Opry 
 Fiddler, but I'm not sure.

 Tater may know how to find the rest of them and the stories behind them. I 
 don't.

 --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 8:48 AM

 Terry sweet list
 Any body know where a person could find

 Baltimore Breakdown

 Blue Goose *

 Blues for Casey #...Jimmy Campbell

 California forrest Fire

 Dead waltz *..Bear Box Sets

 Golden West *

 Lady of Blueridge *Master of Bluegrass

 Lochwood *..Master of Bluegrass

 Milenburg Joy *  Bear Box Sets

 Nanook of the North...James Bryan did it on his fiddle album (no mando)

 Old Grey Mare Came Tearing out of the Wilderness *Uncle Pen Album

 Old Lonesome Waltz.Butch Robbins Grounded Centered and Focused 
 Album,  Tater played mando.

 Old Tennessee River #.Jimmy Campbell

 Pilgrims knob

 Real foot Reel

 Stone Coal *

 Texas Lone Star *...Bear Box Sets

 Tokyo Moonlight Waltz

 White Horse Breakdown

 Wolf Trap Blues

 Woodstock Hornpipe # ..Jimmy  Campbell

 I guess the next part of the mystery is what's the story behind them!
 Adam

 On Jul 5, 4:50 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:

  Pete wrote this I thought Baker wrote this, but I just read the liner 
  notes to Bakers
  Dozen. Says Monroe wrote it.

  The longest running NW BG festival is Darrington Washington. You look
  out from the stage to White Horse Mountain. The rumor was Baker wrote
  the tune on the spot, but I never believed it.

  then Clyde wrote

  My Texas roots tell me it doesn't matter if it's true as long as it's a 
  good story.

  See you in the woods, Pete.

  Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle

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Speaking of Ed Haley....

2009-07-03 Thread Steve Cantrell
...I'm on the hunt for him tonight. Been looking high and low but nowhere to be 
found on the interwebs. Anyone willing to throw me a bone...or maybe a 
download, in this case?
Steve
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Re: Correction!! Costello/Tater on the Tonight Show!!! 6/23 Tonight

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Cantrell
I thought it was a great performance and was thrilled seeing old baldy up there 
on the Tonight Show stage. Brought a tear to my good eye. Just proof that 
Mike's just play the style--it works anywhere is still true. Good on Elvis 
for hiring the right crew. 





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PS: I'm thinking about going to Owensboro.

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Jim Wood and John Hartford--The Bullies Have All Gone to Rest

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Cantrell
Hey ya'll. I remembered this disc when the discussion on Fiddlin' Tex and 
Hartford came up, so I went and dug it out. Good stuff with Jim Wood on fiddle 
and Hartford doing the banjo backing. Very similar to the other CD and prime 
listening. Just thought I'd recommend it for the interested. 

Steve

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Garfield's Blackberry Blossom

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Cantrell
Anyone playing this one or tabbed it out? I've been listening to several 
versions of the tune this past weekend and for whatever reason just can't nail 
it down. Sounds to choppy andcrappy. I looked around for some tab to give 
it a little flavor--maybe see what I'm missing--but no dice. Anyone throw me a 
bone on this one?

Thanks, 
Steve

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Re: Garfield's Blackberry Blossom

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Cantrell
ohwell, there's a big duh for me, then.





From: lj...@intas.net.au lj...@intas.net.au
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 8:52:27 AM
Subject: Re: Garfield's Blackberry Blossom


Steve,
Check the files section, I think the Tater posted tabs for this tune.
linda

On May 11, 10:20 pm, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Anyone playing this one or tabbed it out? I've been listening to several 
 versions of the tune this past weekend and for whatever reason just can't 
 nail it down. Sounds to choppy andcrappy. I looked around for some tab to 
 give it a little flavor--maybe see what I'm missing--but no dice. Anyone 
 throw me a bone on this one?

 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: Garfield's Blackberry Blossom

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Cantrell
Many thanks to all the bone-throwers out there. Now I guess I have to learn it, 
don't I? :)




From: Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:51:44 PM
Subject: Re: Garfield's Blackberry Blossom

Here's a link to Garfield's Blackberry Blossom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfmgNC-llkw

M



On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:34 PM, occasionalcomic occasionalco...@mac.com 
wrote:


here is a link I found on black berry blossom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rdB7SngBb8

jim


On May 11, 1:18 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 A few version of this one around, sure. Snake Chapman's version is a
 lot easier to grasp, but different. No less tasty either. I think
 Haley's version is the definitive. It's one of the tunes he was famous
 for.

 Taterbug

 On May 11, 10:36 am, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

  Garfield's is a real finger buster all right!
  There is a nice notated version in Jeff Titon's Kentucky Fiddle Tunes
 bug book

  On May 11, 10:36 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

   Speaking of tunes not falling under the fingers, how's Chirps and Williams
   coming?

   M

   On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:35 AM, mistertaterbug 
   taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

Big Duh,
No tab, but notation. Beware the wrath of Garfield's BB. I've
whittled on this thing for the past 5-6 years off and on. Still not
there. Not even close. It just does not lay well under the fingers, or
maybe it's the right hand, or maybe it's a lack of expertise, or maybe
it's the phases of the moon...

Just...can't...getit.
TBoy

On May 11, 7:55 am, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 ohwell, there's a big duh for me, then.

 
 From: lj...@intas.net.au lj...@intas.net.au
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 8:52:27 AM
 Subject: Re: Garfield's Blackberry Blossom

 Steve,
 Check the files section, I think the Tater posted tabs for this tune.
 linda

 On May 11, 10:20 pm, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  Anyone playing this one or tabbed it out? I've been listening to
several versions of the tune this past weekend and for whatever reason 
just
can't nail it down. Sounds to choppy andcrappy. I looked around for 
some
tab to give it a little flavor--maybe see what I'm missing--but no dice.
Anyone throw me a bone on this one?

  Thanks,
  Steve- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Personal YouTube Videos

2009-04-23 Thread Steve Cantrell
Laphroaig is excellent, but at heart I'm a Johnny Walker Gold Label man. That's 
the stuff. 





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:08:29 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos


Robin,
Would that be high test or ethel? For bourbon it's got to be mid-grade
Pappy VanWinkle. I got a bottle of Laphroaig from the FedEx man
yesterday. Compliments of Outlier mandolins and Mistah Ben Pearce.
Ya'll git a little water glass and come on...

Peaty

On Apr 22, 3:15 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now what's wrong with a good sniff of the gas tank of yer truck...

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
  Blanton's is in yet another financial category.  Woodford Reserve is really
  good, but it's a little sweet for my regular taste.

  M

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.comwrote:

  Ah Woodford Reserve, delicious!  Blanton's, bulleit and Elijah
  Craig. .

  On Apr 22, 10:32 am, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Woodford Reserve is another good bourbon and my current favorite.
   I'm about to head out on vacation but maybe when I get back I'll crack
   open the bottle of JW Blue and record the Teetotallers (aka,
   Temperance) Reel.

   The mandolin I'm playing is a Kimble A-0.  Although it's outfitted
   like an A4.  Waverly tuners, James TP, triple binding.
   I've had it for a few months and just got it back from a fresh set up
   by Will.  It's a really cool mandolin with its own sound.
   The Red Diamond A5 that's in a couple of my videos was a trade that I
   got last summer.  I traded it off for a guitar last fall because I
   already had my ff hole bases covered with my Heiden A5.  I'm down to
   the Heiden and Kimble and that should hold me for a while!!

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Re: Personal YouTube Videos

2009-04-23 Thread Steve Cantrell
Awesome, Trey. Way to stick to it. 





From: Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:12:33 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos


I had a bottle of Laphroaig last year, didn't care for it much at first, but me 
not being a quitter I kept on drinking it and about 3/4 of the way through I 
found a taste for it.
 
 





 From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos


Laphroaig is excellent, but at heart I'm a Johnny Walker Gold Label man. That's 
the stuff. 





 From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:08:29 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos


Robin,
Would that be high test or ethel? For bourbon it's got to be mid-grade
Pappy VanWinkle. I got a bottle of Laphroaig from the FedEx man
yesterday. Compliments of Outlier mandolins and Mistah Ben Pearce.
Ya'll git a little water glass and come on...

Peaty

On Apr 22, 3:15 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now what's wrong with a good sniff of the gas tank of yer truck...

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
  Blanton's is in yet another financial category.  Woodford Reserve is really
  good, but it's a little sweet for my regular taste.

  M

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.comwrote:

  Ah Woodford Reserve, delicious!  Blanton's, bulleit and Elijah
  Craig. .

  On Apr 22, 10:32 am, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Woodford Reserve is another good bourbon and my current favorite.
   I'm about to head out on vacation but maybe when I get back I'll crack
   open the bottle of JW Blue and record the Teetotallers (aka,
   Temperance) Reel.

   The mandolin I'm playing is a Kimble A-0.  Although it's outfitted
   like an A4.  Waverly tuners, James TP, triple binding.
   I've had it for a few months and just got it back from a fresh set up
   by Will.  It's a really cool mandolin with its own sound.
   The Red Diamond A5 that's in a couple of my videos was a trade that I
   got last summer.  I traded it off for a guitar last fall because I
   already had my ff hole bases covered with my Heiden A5.  I'm down to
   the Heiden and Kimble and that should hold me for a while!!





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Re: Bonaparte

2009-04-21 Thread Steve Cantrell
A friend has a copy of the Hartford/Texas Shorty and it's worth a listen to be 
sure. Hartford's banjo work is pretty amazing. 





From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:28:52 AM
Subject: Re: Bonaparte


Mark, thanks for that link!

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Texas Shorty/John Hartford recording called Old Sport is a master class
 in true old time fiddling.  And while it was out of print for many years,
 Shorty now has it re-issued and you can buy it directly from him and
 Ruthie.  And if you're just into fiddle tunes, you just can't go wrong with
 any of Shorty's recordings.  He's one of the best.

 http://www.texasshorty.com/Home.html

 Mark Seale



 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:32 PM, avalo...@gmail.com avalo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Boy, I love this tune. I pick it a lot. Texas Shorty and John Hartford
 did it on a rather rare recording which is where I learned it. If you
 can find it, and good luck, it's the best. The album was discontinued
 pronto pup over some legal issue. John's banjo playing on this is just
 a masterpiece all by itself. This tune makes a great solo mandolin
 tune I have found. I just play it in regular tuning key of D and it
 works quite well.

 On Apr 1, 2:16 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  Got hooked on A.A. Gray's Bonaparte's retreat - I think Pete Seeger does
  it
  similarly, but frankly I'm not really up on fiddle tunes: only what is
  on
  the legacy ipod..  I was trying to quietly figure it out in regular
  tuning
  and it fits nicely into an F shape in regular tuning, apart from the
  drones.
  Then I checked out Mr Google who tells me DDAD... Is this possible? Can
  one
  do this on the mandolin without the whole thing rattling or exploding?
  Out
  of stubbornness I may have to just work out some way of doing it myself,
  but
  would be interesting to hear points of view.
 
  All answers please in Sonnet form or simple Iambic Pentameters if that
  is
  too challenging.
  Robin



 



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Re: Cold Remedy

2009-04-11 Thread Steve Cantrell
Ditto on that, Mike. Same formula for South Carolina. I like to microwave it. 
When the coma wears off you feel GREAT.




From: Mike Romkey mrom...@mac.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:36:16 PM
Subject: Re: Cold Remedy


Grandma Romkey's Cure: Hot water, lemon juice, whisky, honey. Worked
for me when I was 4, works for me when I'm 54.


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Re: Mike's New CD

2009-04-01 Thread Steve Cantrell
That's not funny guys, especially when we all know Mike is doing hard time. 





From: mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:02:19 PM
Subject: Mike's New CD


I just got Pickin' on Michael in the mail,  Mike Compton plays and sings 
Michael Jackson.  I never knew Tater could sing so high.  Billy Jean played 
Compton style, cain't get no better ya'll.


Clyde Clevenger 
Just My Opinion, But It's Right 
Salem, Oregon 
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Re: Andy Statman strikes again...

2009-03-31 Thread Steve Cantrell
This video is great and I've been using it a frequent reference whilst working 
on this tune. Andy Statman is pretty amazing. Sometimes his vocalization are a 
little unsettling, but I'm generally uneasy so I can accommodate it. 



From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:37:10 AM
Subject: Re: Andy Statman strikes again...


Andy called last night about 11p New Yawk time and said that he had it
on an old tape, that he heard it on a radio show years back. I forget
one of the host's names, but it seems he said that Bill Vernon was the
other deejay. Andy said that the show was very good and played very
tasty stuff. I was pretty tired by the time I heard from him and my
cell connection was breaking up a bit at inopportune moments, so I
didn't retain it all. Apparently our beloved Mr. Statman is
deeep closet in his resourcing. Hat's off...

Humbled in Tennessee

On Mar 30, 1:18 pm, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:
 let us know mr andy's reply... love the tune!

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Re: Redneck Haiku

2009-03-31 Thread Steve Cantrell
Throw up funnel cake just made me laugh audibly, Fred. 





From: Fred fkel...@scicable.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:01:16 PM
Subject: Re: Redneck Haiku


Your latest reminded me of something...

Festival groupie
Pick all night under the stars
Throw up funnel cake

mistertaterbug wrote:
 George Jones on the road
 Headed to the liquor store
 Lawnmower goes slow
 
 
 Bluegrass festival
 Photo opportunity
 Bill says, You Back Up
 
 Help...I can't stop...
 Tater
 



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Re: F4 Mandolin

2009-03-31 Thread Steve Cantrell
My F has generally stayed on its peg since I got my oval. I much prefer the 
sound of it, and only paid about 1/4 the cost of the F for it. Weird how things 
like that work out. I suppose I need to hold on to an F-hole mandolin for 
bluegrass jamming, but I think my next mandolin will be an oval. 




From: Don Christy mandolin...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:47:32 PM
Subject: Re: F4 Mandolin

I have a great 1921 Gibson F-2 and a modern custom small builder F-4 from 
Pomeroy. Both listed at the Cafe currently if you're interested. 
Don


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM, malagrass malayt...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Cool mandolin at vintage, great advise. Unbelievably I remembered I
had an old Gibson A that someone loaned me about 2 years ago. I forgot
I had it and once I wiped the inch of dust off the case and tuned it
up its really cool. I guess the owner didn't like it, we both forgot I
had itanyway it plays well but no side dots and its amazing how
much I NEED them. I'm not certain how this compares in sound but I'll
start lookin' around and see whats out there.

Tater, I like the sound of yours. Most ovals I've heard are like this
one, very tubby. I've understand the bussmans are highly talked about
as well as the lyon and healy but sadley i've not seen either. It'll
take looking at whats out there and get the right one. I'm bad for
buying something site unseen and not liking it which turns into a
vicious cycle of which there is no cure

However, sadly for my wife...the search is on. Again!

John






On Mar 31, 9:51 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Should've hesitated before hitting the send button... You might also
 check out some of the Vega cylinder backs as well as Lyon and Healys.
 If you're interested in something a bit odd by a joy to play, check
 out Player's Vintage Instruments  and look at the Shutt mando.
 Grisman's got one. You'd be amazed what these things will do.

 (http://www.vintageinstruments.com/photos/inst30/cremonashuttful.jpg)

 Tater

 On Mar 31, 8:46 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:



  Malagrass, get you an oval hole and don't give it a second thought.
  I've got the F5 and F4 and I'll say that neither will do what the
  other does. I really favor the oval hole sound for a lot of things.
  Just be sure to play a lot of them before you buy. Find one that has
  more than just low end rumble. In my opinion, look for one that is
  even across the entire range, that has clarity and body to the notes
  in all registers. Many oval hole Gibsons are heavy on the mud and
  not meaty in the treble. There's tons of Gibsons around, so take your
  time if you're looking for one of those. There are good mandolins from
  the independent makers too; Gilchrist, Brentrup, Bussman, Kimble, and
  many more. Have fun!

  Taterbug

  On Mar 30, 8:24 am, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

   malagrass:

   An F hole and an oval is kinda like having a hard top and a
   convertible; well not really :) but since we're all into mandolins I
   say why not? If you can afford a second instrument then having an F
   and an oval is better then having two F's (just like high school)

   They are completely different animals. The sound of the oval besides
   having more sustain and bottom end has a different type of projection
   then a F. An F's tone jumps right out of the box while an oval's tone
   takes a little longer to bloom but also fills up the space more.
   Many ovals would have a tough time competing with a bluegrass style
   banjo.

   As Shaun says above; for solo palying or small ensembles an oval is
   the ticket.

   Playing wise the oval neck is I believe a shorter scale length and
   meets the body at the 12th fret instead of 15. Though there are some
   ovals made that join the neck at the typical 15th fret; but I'd
   consider those more of a hybrid then a true oval.

   One other thing I've noticed is that an oval sounds much different
   when you are in the driver's seat then it does when someone else
   playing it. In other words they are louder in reality then we perceive
   them to be when we play them. Probably due to that bloom factor.

   On Mar 28, 1:52 pm, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:

I've got a Kimble A-0 and it's lots of fun to play.  I just begs for
old time fiddle tunes.  Even does a respectable job on more bluegrassy
tunes too.  An oval hole mando is at it's best if you're playing solo
or with another mandolin or guitar.  Any more than that and your jam
partners better have a REALLY good understanding of dynamics!  But in
a small group, it offers a different tonal pallette.  Everybody should
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Re: Good live stuff

2009-03-30 Thread Steve Cantrell
I hear they give out complimentary suspenders with a smiley-face button already 
on there. 





From: Fred fkel...@scicable.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:35:44 PM
Subject: Re: Good live stuff


Got me a season ticket.  Get to board early that way.

mistertaterbug wrote:
 Riding the Humilitron really hard here today...
 T
 
 On Mar 30, 11:23 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Darin Vincent. Of Daley/Vincent.
 tater




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