Hello Dwight,
Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:09:45 PM, you wrote:
On Monday, January 17, 2011, 6:32:37 AM, Tony Hoare wrote:
TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is
actually sent but CS shows as still sending.
Confirmed. You can't close TB! in that case and
Hello All,
Snip...
This is now URGENT as we cannot tolerate an email client that only
randomly sends mail.
Another failed send.
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Best regards,
Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk
The Bat! 5.0.0.132 BETA
On Thursday, January 27, 2011, 4:25:41 AM, Tony Hoare wrote:
OK, I now have the situation where the email was NOT sent. I can see
that this send do not have the log message expected;
27/01/2011, 10:17:50: SEND - connection finished - 1 message(s) sent
are you sure it was not sent? (Have
Hello Dwight,
are you sure it was not sent? (Have you confirmed non-receipt with the
intended recipient?)
I am waiting on his call. It's quite embarrassing to have to call a
person when you really would like to converse with them by email.
The worry is that I have just assumed that
Hello all,
Thursday, January 27, 2011, Tony Hoare wrote:
Hello Dwight,
are you sure it was not sent? (Have you confirmed non-receipt with the
intended recipient?)
I am waiting on his call. It's quite embarrassing to have to call a
person when you really would like to converse with them by
Hello Marek,
Thursday, January 27, 2011, 7:30:02 PM, you wrote:
Snip...
open account properties and in Transport section, enable SMTP protocol
logging, TB will log complete connection between client and server, You
will see everything there.
Doh! I'll try that.
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Best regards,
Tony
Hi,
Just realized that that also happens if you start in a subfolder of an
IMAP account.
this one is driving me nuts.
So In an IMAP account, you have a long list of entries all parked.
Then I deleted tehm all and some of them come back... Obviously
because the folder is refreshed while
Dear List,
@15-Jan-2011, 12:31 Marck Pearlstone [MP] in
mid:91785809.20110115123...@silverstones.com said to Stefan:
... snip
MP Not sure if this one is reported or what the BT reference is, but
MP while not a crash is a major usability impediment: TB *never* checks
MP my IMAP account for new
Hi Marck,
Further information: when I select another IMAP folder in the
account, any waiting mail appears in the Inbox.
That behaviour is consistent with what I see if I resume after
hibernate. I need to switch to another folder to push TB! into
reconnecting.
I think the problem is the 'When
Hi,
- Don't even think about sending a mail from a common folder with
identity set (to an IMAP folder?). Because you end up with several parked
messages that
obviously contain drafts. See attached picture.
Just realized that that also happens if you start in a subfolder of an
IMAP
Hello Stefan,
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is
actually sent but CS shows as still sending. If this
Hi Tony,
TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is
actually sent but CS shows as still sending.
Confirmed. You can't close TB! in that case and after killing it and
restarting it still shows the task for sending.
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Best regards
Raymund
Using 5.0.0.129 BETA on
Hello Raymund,
Monday, January 17, 2011, 9:47:42 AM, you wrote:
Hi Tony,
TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is
actually sent but CS shows as still sending.
Confirmed. You can't close TB! in that case and after killing it and
restarting it still shows the
Snip ...
After TB reads incoming mail and filters it to Inbox Known (that's
what my test filter does), TB then selects Inbox Known because it
knows there is a new mail to read(?), then IDLEs in Inbox Known. After
this, new mail arriving in Inbox is not noticed because TB is watching
Inbox
Hello Stefan,
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
The adjusted screen layout preference (such as the vertical delimiter
on the right side of folder list) returns on every
I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to
fix, but we need to make a milestone release - there are just too
many reason to do it and the main one is psychological - it's really
difficult to (re)write code for more than a year and not to make a
release, it's just
On Monday, January 17, 2011, 6:32:37 AM, Tony Hoare wrote:
TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is
actually sent but CS shows as still sending.
Confirmed. You can't close TB! in that case and after killing it and
restarting it still shows the task for sending.
Hello Dwight,
Reported: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8350
I believe that is the same problem as
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8285
Yup. Sorry, didn't see it.
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Best regards,
Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk
The Bat! 5.0.0.129 BETA
Howdy,
On 1/15/2011, 10:02 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote in
mid:712517927.20110115160...@dh2publishing.info
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
In short: almost everything
domingo, 16 ene 2011 at 21:36, it seems you wrote:
how could they work, if they do not refresh? ;-)
The show the messages they should show on each start but do not
refresh.
So they're semi-working ;-)
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/\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.129 BETA Professional OTFE
Hello Marck,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 12:31:10 PM, you wrote:
Dear Stefan,
@15-Jan-2011, 09:55 +0200 (15-Jan 07:55 here) Stefan Tanurkov [ST]
in mid:715772315.20110115095...@thebat.net said to All:
... snip
Not sure if this one is reported or what the BT reference is, but
while not a
Hello Stefan,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 9:55:37 AM, among other things, you wrote:
ST So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
ST will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
ST Thank you!
I understand your wish to make a new issue but
Dear Tony,
@16-Jan-2011, 13:05 Tony Hoare [TH] in
mid:1506961616.20110116130...@parkinch.co.uk said to Marck:
... snip
... TB *never* checks
my IMAP account for new messages unless done manually. Not even
sending command line /CHECK or /CHECKALL makes it happen.
TH TB now uses IMAP IDLE to
Hello Marck,
Sunday, January 16, 2011, 2:19:56 PM, you wrote:
Dear Tony,
@16-Jan-2011, 13:05 Tony Hoare [TH] in
mid:1506961616.20110116130...@parkinch.co.uk said to Marck:
... snip
... TB *never* checks
my IMAP account for new messages unless done manually. Not even
sending command
Hello Marck,
Snip ...
I am on build 128 with filtering turned on. With inbox selected, and
TB partially hidden behind another application, I can send myself
email from another program e.g. Gmail web. I have a test filter
(filtering by subject) and the mail shows up in the target folder.
Dear Tony,
@16-Jan-2011, 16:29 Tony Hoare [TH] in
mid:05805245.20110116162...@parkinch.co.uk said to Marck:
... snip
TH Perhaps, you can now turn on automatic filters in v128.
Okay - that's a resounding no. I couldn't even survive sending
the previous reply with filtering turned on. Looks like
Hello Marck,
Sunday, January 16, 2011, 12:25:38 PM, you wrote:
Okay - that's a resounding no. I couldn't even survive sending
the previous reply with filtering turned on. Looks like that's never
going to work for me.
This still doesn't explain why I can only get new messages by
manually
Dear Stuart,
@16-Jan-2011, 12:53 -0600 (16-Jan 18:53 here) Stuart [SC] in
mid:148141903.20110116125...@fastmail.fm said to Marck:
... snip
This still doesn't explain why I can only get new messages by
manually polling.
SC What is your setting under Account/Properties/Mail Management/Connect
sábado, 15 ene 2011 at 21:10, it seems you wrote:
please fix virtual folders, they are not working during whole alpha and
betatest.
They work, but they do not refresh until you restarts TB!
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/\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.129 BETA Professional OTFE
with iKey1000
/ \
Hello all,
Sunday, January 16, 2011, NetVicious wrote:
sábado, 15 ene 2011 at 21:10, it seems you wrote:
please fix virtual folders, they are not working during whole alpha and
betatest.
They work, but they do not refresh until you restarts TB!
how could they work, if they do not refresh?
... snip
This still doesn't explain why I can only get new messages by
manually polling.
SC What is your setting under Account/Properties/Mail Management/Connect to
the
SC server. Mine is set for When The Bat starts.
MP I'll try that.
It didn't help. Still no auto-retrieval of waiting mail.
Hello Stefan,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 2:55:37 AM, you wrote:
During the last year, most of the program's code was completely
rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working
properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to
fix, but we
Hello all,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
well I understand You completely, but did You really tried new Image
Hi Stefan,
difficult to (re)write code for more than a year and not to make a
release, it's just too much of pressure. I hope you're understand
what I'm trying to say.
I see your point, but make sure that you don't add new functionality
then that isn't working yet (to name but a
Hi all,
ah, I forgot my top one:
- Don't even think about sending a mail from a common folder with
identity set (to an IMAP folder?). Because you end up with several parked
messages that
obviously contain drafts. See attached picture.
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Best regards
Raymund
Using 5.0.0.128 BETA on
Sveiki,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 9:55:37 AM, you wrote:
Hello All,
During the last year, most of the program's code was completely
rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working
properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to
fix,
Hello Stefan and everybody,
I've just downloaded 5.0 for the first time yesterday, so I have a
fresh look at how it is different to 4.0 (as that is the version I
normally use).
I tested 5.0 for a few hours yesterday, and I definitely see some
progress. I certainly hope that infrastructural changes
Dear Stefan,
@15-Jan-2011, 09:55 +0200 (15-Jan 07:55 here) Stefan Tanurkov [ST]
in mid:715772315.20110115095...@thebat.net said to All:
... snip
ST So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
ST will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
o
Hello Marek,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 2:56:11 AM, you wrote:
And I am one who has problems with View modes? :-( Every start produces
strange results, menu and context menu displays different VM than folder
has and
No I have the problem as well.
Am I the only one with filter problems?
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Hello Stefan,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 1:55:37 AM, you wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
Mostly reported already, but:
1) Sync does not work
sábado, 15 ene 2011 at 08:55, it seems you wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
I created a lot of BTs, but from my list the only showstopper it's
this:
5.0.0.x Alpha. Deleting
On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 8:55:37, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap.
New hints are a serious annoyance:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8189 (they're bad enough that
I only tolerate them because
On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 13:04:29, Krzysztof Trybowski wrote:
* there is annoying something appearing every now and then as I hover
messages; it looks like a scaled-down message preview, but it is of no
use; I'd keep that off by default
That's one of the new hints you're seeing. They
On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 8:55:37, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap.
This one is very annoying as well:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8337 (next unread message in
a new folder doesn't start
Hello Stefan!
On Saturday, January 15, 2011 at 8:55:37 AM you wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
In short: almost everything reported for the UI.
The sheer number
Hi,
DH The sheer number of error messages I get - i.e. closing TB leads to
DH AVs, error messages [...]
Do keep in mind that errors like this also exist in the current v4.
Plus, v4 has modules that hardly work at all (IMAP).
The question of a v5 release therefore is not whether v5 at this
On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 9:11:27 AM, Alto Speckhardt wrote:
Do keep in mind that errors like this also exist in the current v4.
Plus, v4 has modules that hardly work at all (IMAP).
The question of a v5 release therefore is not whether v5 at this point
in time is perfect, but whether
Hello Alto!
On Saturday, January 15, 2011 at 4:11:27 PM you wrote:
The question of a v5 release therefore is not whether v5 at this point
in time is perfect, but whether it's better than the current v4
release.
I beg to differ. First of all, I do not have any unforeseeable errors
with v4,
Hello Alto,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 10:11:27 AM, you wrote:
AS The question of a v5 release therefore is not whether v5 at this
AS point in time is perfect, but whether it's better than the current
AS v4 release.
Several times each day I consider going back to v4 knowing that:
1) my adjusted
Hello all,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
as I already reported, in 5.0 there is no progressbar when copying/moving
Hello all,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
since Quick search was removed from Smartpad and new buggy Search bar was
Hi Marck,
Not sure if this one is reported or what the BT reference is, but
while not a crash is a major usability impediment: TB *never* checks
my IMAP account for new messages unless done manually.
Confirmed here. I always thought that was an issue with hibernation...
Having said that, it
Stuart,
On 15-01-2011 14:39, you wrote in mid:15410022090.20110115073...@fastmail.fm:
Mostly reported already, but:
1) Sync does not work https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8278
2) Filtering in IMAP does not work properly
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8123
3) View Modes not
properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to
fix, but we need to make a milestone release - there are just too
many reason to do it and the main one is psychological - it's really
difficult to (re)write code for more than a year and not to make a
release,
Hi,
DH That is not to say that v4 is perfect but it works quite well for
DH what it was originally programmed - and it does not throw
DH unexplainable errors at the user.
Good one.
If I wrote a report for every runtime error or other failure v4 is
giving me in daily use, you'd have trouble
Hello Alto!
On Saturday, January 15, 2011 at 8:39:06 PM you wrote:
At this point in time I couldn't care less if the vehicle that is v5
is sporting 500 PS or 550 PS. I'd be quite satisfied if it had four
wheels.
Yes, and v5 might have some night ideas for an airbrush paintjob but
it lacks
Hello Alto,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 8:39:06 PM, you wrote:
DH Contemplate a potential new user of TB happening upon a program that
DH constantly reports errors [...]
AS Which is the current v4. Thanks for proving my point.
Not this beta!...
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Best Wishes,
Mark
Hello all,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
Thank you!
please fix virtual folders, they are not working during whole alpha and
Hello All,
During the last year, most of the program's code was completely
rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working
properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to
fix, but we need to make a milestone release - there are just too
Hi Stefan,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 12:55:37 AM, you wrote:
ST Hello All,
ST During the last year, most of the program's code was completely
ST rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working
ST properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and
Hi Stefan,
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 12:55:37 AM, you wrote:
[snip]
ST So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
ST will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
ST Thank you!
My P.S. to my last message - my inbox filters are
Hi Stefan,
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:55:37 +0200 UTC (1/15/2011, 1:55 AM -0600 UTC my
time), Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
S So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we
S will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too.
S Thank you!
Certainly others have
Dear Gary,
@15-Jan-2011, 15:40 -0600 (15-Jan 21:40 here) Gary [G] in
mid:446197423.20110115154012@localhost said to Stefan:
... snip
G getting AVs when moving to a different message. This does not happen often,
G but often enough to be bothersome. Once the AVs start in a TB session, they
G
Hello All,
During the last year, most of the program's code was completely
rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working
properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to
fix, but we need to make a milestone release - there are just too
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