In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
V So, you think that two copies from mails in Sent folder is correct?
V I prefer sending me a warning message, that this and this filter
V is affected if you delete this filter.
V I would not say, it is a bug. It is an inconvenience.
In my opinion it's
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
Ah, that then is a bug. I didn't try it, but the message should be
moved to the default.
V The filter should be disabled, at least...
You have my support! :)
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Best regards,
Goncalo Farias
Make like a fart and blow this hole.
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
V Does TB! do what I told it to do? No. I agree, that it CANNOT do
V anymore that I told it to do, but TB! should not be creative. It is
V not its job.
After all this is an email cliente not an image editor! :)
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Best regards,
Goncalo Farias
Did you
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
V The filter should be disabled, at least...
TF No. the filter might set a colour group at the same time or
TF vperform other actions. Setting the destination folder to a
TF move/copy action to the default is more sensible, so that the
TF
Hi MAU,
Saturday, July 23, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
I noticed this yesterday with 3.51.8 when I exited TB and immediately
wanted to shut down Windows.
When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running
Hello MAU,
Saturday, July 23, 2005, 10:30:43 AM, you wrote:
What is TB doing during this extra minute or so? Does anyone know?
Can't confirm on a Win98SE PC.
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Best regards,
Martin
TheBat! 3.51.9 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005, at 10:48:53 [GMT +0200] (which was 10:48 where I
live) Martin Schoch wrote:
Can't confirm on a Win98SE PC.
Just checked, can't confirm either. Closing rather fast.
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Henk M. de Bruijn
__
The Bat! Natural
Vili,
On 22-07-2005 23:37, you [V] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
V 1. Is the target folder is a server side mailbox or a local folder?
V What is your target folder (is it a subfolder)?
Server side.
V 2. What are your syncronization settings (right click, Manage IMAP
V folders)?
Full.
V 3.
Good day, MAU.
M I noticed this yesterday with 3.51.8 when I exited TB and immediately
M wanted to shut down Windows.
M When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
M do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
M and using about 50% CPU.
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
JW I doubt this. Had they known it, they would have fixed it. It turns
out to be an elusive bug, as some encounter it and others don't.
JW Thomas, perhaps it is just a bug. But even if it was just a bug,
JW why did RL lose sight of their goal to
Hallo MAU,
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:30:43 +0200GMT (23-7-2005, 10:30 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
M When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
M do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
M and using about 50% CPU. I have verified
Hello Charlene,
When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with
Task Manager and it does it every time.
I don't know
Hello Vladimir,
M When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
M do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
M and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with
M Task Manager and it does it every time.
M What is TB
Hello Martin,
What is TB doing during this extra minute or so? Does anyone know?
Can't confirm on a Win98SE PC.
As I have just replied to Charlene, 3.51.9 is doing just the same.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service
Hello Roelof,
M When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
M do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
M and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with
M Task Manager and it does it every time.
The only
Hello MAU!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 3:30 AM, you wrote:
When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with
Task Manager
Het was op zaterdag 23 juli 2005 om 11:20 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'What
is TB doing after exiting?' :
Hoi MAU,
Confirmed with BayesIt!. After TB! is closed, BI! stores it's
statistics.
This was found with TB! 3.0.1.33 with BayesIt! 0.80 and newer.
M But I have never used
Hi,
just came across this. I had finish reading the last 2 days from
TBBETAandwasgoing to check Miguel's (MAU) report
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]and when got the
attached message box.
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Best regards,
Goncalo Farias
Reality is for those who can't handle Star
M Hello all,
M I noticed this yesterday with 3.51.8 when I exited TB and immediately
M wanted to shut down Windows.
M When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
M do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
M and using about 50% CPU. I
Vili,
On 22-07-2005 23:38, you [V] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
V I did not understand it... Please write an example for me with folder
V names.
I have a common filter that I want only to run on the Inbox of IMAP
folders.
In the common filters, there is a tab called Share With... where you
Hello all,
Saturday, July 23, 2005, Goncalo Farias wrote:
MM - new section Protocol logging in Account properties has still no
MM icon! Please add icon if You added new section, it looks very strange
MM reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4957
I noticed that protocol
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
I noticed that protocol logging also logs the account info,
username/password. I think the REAL password should be replaced by
asterisks (*)
MM this is real communication with server, password is stored like it is
MM sent.
It shouldn't or
Hello Goncalo!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 5:10 AM, you wrote:
just came across this. I had finish reading the last 2 days from
TBBETAandwasgoing to check Miguel's (MAU) report
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]and when got the
attached message box.
That's a very
Hello all,
Saturday, July 23, 2005, Goncalo Farias wrote:
I noticed that protocol logging also logs the account info,
username/password. I think the REAL password should be replaced by
asterisks (*)
MM this is real communication with server, password is stored like it is
MM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Freitag, 22. Juli 2005, 15:20:50]:
MM The Bat! 3.51.9 is now available from:
I still seem to be having a problem with the QuickSearch (message
list) box that is quite annoying. The search itself works well, but
sometimes the message list is not reset after the search
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
It shouldn't or it's not safe to log anything at all. I'm pretty sure
the purpose of logging the real communication with the server has
nothing to do with the user/password therefor IMHO the password should
be masked (with random size, preferably).
Hello Oliver Wolfram everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 13:22 you (Oliver Wolfram) wrote:
I still seem to be having a problem with the QuickSearch (message list)
box that is quite annoying. The search itself works well, but sometimes
the message list is not reset after the search (nomally
Hello MAU everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 10:30 you (MAU) wrote:
When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with
Task
Hello Goncalo Farias everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 13:25 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote:
Do you believe there is REAL need for the plain text password? Most
people is, possibly, unaware the PLAIN TEXT password is store in that
log.
If you're not using a secure method of authentication, the
Hello Goncalo Farias everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 12:10 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote:
when got the attached message box
IIRC thats a BayesIt error. Remove BayesIt and see if it still happens.
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Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
A person starts to live
Hello Oliver,
am Samstag, 23. Juli 2005 um 13:22 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
OW I still seem to be having a problem with the QuickSearch (message
OW list) box that is quite annoying. The search itself works well, but
OW sometimes the message list is not reset after the search (nomally
OW invoked
Hi Ritlabs folks,
When you will be about to start The Bat! Mobile Edition, do you plan
first to go through a beta phase or will you publish TBME basing on
the bat! stability to release it directly ?
Greetings,
--
Claude Renaud
Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Samstag, 23. Juli 2005, 13:57:49]:
M On keywords with german layout you cannot press [Ctrl]+[=] as [=] is
M only available by pressing the shift-key. Instead pressing [Ctrl]+[+]
M seems to work.
Thanks to both of you, Melanie, Alexander. Esc/Ctrl-+ did it.
Sometimes it
Hi all,
Sorry if it it is already the case but don't find the way to do
this.
IF it does not :
- could it be possible to include in the msi package the ability to
select/deselect all the image related stuff (personally I don' use
them and it wast space on my usb key);
- could it also be
Hello MAU,
M When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
M do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
M and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with
M Task Manager and it does it every time.
The only thing TB
Hello Charlene,
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, at 4:46:52 AM, you wrote
re: What is TB doing after exiting?:
CF I don't know what has been changed from 3.518 to .9 but I don't see TB
CF keep on running after exit. I close TB, seconds later (usually less than
CF 1 and never more than 3 or 4 seconds)
Hello Alexander,
When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute
and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with
Task Manager and it does it every time.
I just tried a
Hello Alexander and all,
If you test this issue, please send the answers to the list:
1. Is View, Message Auto-view checked?
2. Try this:
-boot TB!
-check View, Message Auto-view
- use TB! for a while as you used to use
- try to quit
2a.Was it quick to quit?
After you did this, try this:
Hello Vili!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 2:10 AM, you wrote:
Try using TB! for a while, open a lot of message (100?) and try then.
This could very well be the significant part.
Yesterday, twice for me a very slow exit.
This morning, after opening about 15 messages in one folder (TBBETA)
only,
Hello Vili everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 09:10 you (Vili) wrote:
Try using TB! for a while, open a lot of message (100?) and try then.
Actually, TB was already running for a couple of hours when I tried.
Do you have preview pane turned on or off?
Its on, and I seldomly really open a
Hello Vili everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 09:22 you (Vili) wrote:
- UNCHECK View, Message Auto-view
- use TB! for a while as you used to use
How can I use TB as I used to when I'm used to use it with the auto-view
enabled? :-)
3. Did you download mails in the meantime?
Every 10 minutes.
Hi Wayne Howard,
Saturday, July 23, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
CF I don't know what has been changed from 3.518 to .9 but I don't see TB
CF keep on running after exit. I close TB, seconds later (usually less than
CF 1 and never more than 3 or 4 seconds) all purging and
Hello Charlene Ferrara everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 15:39 you (Charlene Ferrara) wrote:
Or on exit at all, this I don't remember
I PC on exit it does that here. :-)
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Deliplayer2 is playing: Blacknuss (9:54) by Inky
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 3:38:09 AM, Goncalo Farias wrote:
V The filter should be disabled, at least...
TF No. the filter might set a colour group at the same time or
TF vperform other actions. Setting the destination folder to a
TF move/copy action to the default is more
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 6:42:50 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
I have verified this several times today with Task Manager and it
does it every time.
Not confirmed here. Now that I have retired all my POP activities and
am just using IMAP, shutting down TB! goes much more quickly, too.
--
Hello Dwight A Corrin everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 15:46 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote:
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 6:42:50 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
I have verified this several times today with Task Manager and it
does it every time.
No, I did not write that, I only quoted it. :-P
Hello Charlene,
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, at 9:39:02 AM, you wrote
re: What is TB doing after exiting?:
CF What if you
CF run a manual folder maintenance? Is there lots of stuff to be fixed in
CF maintenance or is the pg job done at another time?
It will not purge and compress in manual mode
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
ASK Hello Goncalo Farias everyone else,
ASK on 23-Jul-2005 at 13:25 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote:
Do you believe there is REAL need for the plain text password? Most
people is, possibly, unaware the PLAIN TEXT password is store in
that log.
ASK If
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 2:22:32 AM, Vili wrote:
-boot TB! -UNCHECK View, Message Auto-view - use TB! for a while as
you used to use
Can't close auto view and still read my mail. Never go anywhere else.
--
Dwight A. Corrin
928 S Broadway
Wichita KS 67211
316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568
Hi Alexander S. Kunz,
Saturday, July 23, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
Or on exit at all, this I don't remember
Either it has been fixed later or it was only a momentary complaint of
one single user. :dunno:
I PC on exit it does that here.
I could catch a look at it on exit,
Hello Dwight A Corrin everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 16:59 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote:
-boot TB! -UNCHECK View, Message Auto-view - use TB! for a while as you
used to use
Can't close auto view and still read my mail. Never go anywhere else.
You can open a message from the messagelist
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
V I suspect, that it must be something with the message preview, as I
V had this slow quit problem, but I turned preview on, it quits fast
V now.
V I suspect preview pane, as if you use that, TB! does not use that
V much memory. Memory leak is
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
when got the attached message box
ASK IIRC thats a BayesIt error. Remove BayesIt and see if it still happens.
It happened only one time. I didn't do (nor try) to reproduce it.
--
Best regards,
Goncalo Farias
Hug: A roundabout way of expressing
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
DAC On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 3:38:09 AM, Goncalo Farias wrote:
I agree with Vili. It shouldn't have default actions. Either the
filter is able to do what it was designed to do or it should be
disabled (with or without a warning).
DAC I don't
Hello Greg!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 9:43 AM, you wrote:
I noticed this yesterday with 3.51.8 when I exited TB and immediately
wanted to shut down Windows.
When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to
do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about
Hello Alexander!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 11:02 AM, you wrote:
(maybe because I'm not subscribed to TBOT and thus don't get 500 messages
per day)
I heard that! Of course, TBBETA never generates hundreds of messages a
day! :P
LOL
--
Best regards,
Mary
The Bat 3.51.9 on Windows XP 5.1
Hello Mary Bull everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 18:42 you (Mary Bull) wrote:
(maybe because I'm not subscribed to TBOT and thus don't get 500 messages
per day)
I heard that! Of course, TBBETA never generates hundreds of messages a
day! :P
LOL
Well, I really tried. Subscribed one
Hello Greg Strong everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 18:49 you (Greg Strong) wrote:
Ok I've tested. With v3.51.9 the folder is changed to the Inbox which
is better than Sent mail folder.
Excuse me but... why is it better that an OUTGOING filter moves messages to
the INBOX (rather than the SENT
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 11:42:38 AM, Mary Bull wrote:
(maybe because I'm not subscribed to TBOT and thus don't get 500
messages per day)
I heard that! Of course, TBBETA never generates hundreds of messages a
day! :P
just looked at tbot on yahoo site, 2517 messages in June and so far in
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 11:16:30 AM, Goncalo Farias wrote:
IMHO, filters should come in a package that would either
do everything or do nothing without compromises.
that is just the opposite of what I would expect a filter to do. It
would mean you could only safely have a separate
Did I miss the report, or has it not been remarked upon that there is
no longer a mystery stop when tabbing backward from message auto view
window to message list.
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Dwight A. Corrin
928 S Broadway
Wichita KS 67211
316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568
dcorrin at fastmail.fm
Using The Bat! 3.51.9 on
Hello Greg Strong everyone else,
on 23-Jul-2005 at 19:07 you (Greg Strong) wrote:
I think when a folder is deleted that a warning SHOULD be provided with
the name of the effected filter in the warning with a 'delete' or
'cancel' option when the folder deleted is the destination folder.
Saturday, July 23, 2005, 12:09:15 PM, (Internet Time - @756) you wrote:
Hello Dwight,
DAC Did I miss the report, or has it not been remarked upon that there is
DAC no longer a mystery stop when tabbing backward from message auto view
DAC window to message list.
I know I just noticed it also.
Hello Greg!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 11:55 AM, you wrote:
So maybe some clarification is required by Miguel.
I think so.
I closed TB! with no window open except the main one, which was
minimized to tray, just now. It closed faster than I could blink an
eye.
Also, I don't know any way to
Hello Alexander!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 11:53 AM, you wrote:
its no use to move into the off topic realm on
another list, I simply don't have the time for that...
I do understand. Just wanted to tease you a bit. :)
--
Best regards,
Mary
The Bat 3.51.9 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service
Hello Goncalo,
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:30:22 +0100 GMT (23/07/2005, 15:30 +0700 GMT),
Goncalo Farias wrote:
GF In my opinion it's a bug. Either disable the filter or delete it with
GF the folder. I would prefer the first option.
I'm against both. If the filter does more than copying/moving,
Hello Claude,
Saturday, July 23, 2005, 1:35:06 PM, you wrote:
Sorry if it it is already the case but don't find the way to do
this.
IF it does not :
- could it be possible to include in the msi package the ability to
select/deselect all the image related stuff (personally I don' use
Hello all,
Saturday, July 23, 2005, George M. Menegakis wrote:
as I discovered, this file is not encrypted when OTFE is active.
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4952
I don't know about you but I prefer tbuser.def to remain unencrypted.
I understand You, I am editing tbuser.def often,
Hoi Paul
When a filter attempts to act on a nonexistent folder, let it create the
folder.
This functionality is already available. In the folder dialog of the
Copy/Move filter action, there's a checkbox named Automatically create if
necessary. HTH.
True. However this is
Hi all,
I'm a newbie on this list so please treat me gently! I have a couple
of questions about how the beta process and in particular how issues
reported on the BTS are dealt with. I am mainly interested in an issue I have
reported (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4934) regarding email
Hi all,
I'm a newbie on this list so please treat me gently! I have a couple of
questions about how the beta process and in particular how issues reported on
the BTS are dealt with. I am mainly interested in an issue I have reported
(https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4934) regarding email
Hello Paul!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 5:19 PM, you wrote:
I'm a newbie on this list so please treat me gently! ...
Welcome aboard! Was a newbie here myself, not that long ago.
... I have a couple of questions about how the beta process and in
particular how issues reported on the BTS are
Hello George,
On Saturday, July 23, 2005 at 22:12:30 GMT +0300 (which was 21:12:30
where I live), George M. Menegakis wrote and made these valuable
points on the subject of TBUSER.DEF is not encrypted in OTFE mode:
Thursday, July 21, 2005, 5:11:00 PM, Marek Mikus wrote:
Hello,
as I
Hello all,
Sunday, July 24, 2005, Dick Hoogendoorn wrote:
Thursday, July 21, 2005, 5:11:00 PM, Marek Mikus wrote:
Hello,
as I discovered, this file is not encrypted when OTFE is active.
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4952
I don't know about you but I prefer tbuser.def to remain
Hallo Paul,
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:13:01 +0100GMT (24-7-2005, 0:13 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
PM I'm a newbie on this list so please treat me gently! I have a couple
moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if
Hallo Paul,
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:19:13 +0100GMT (24-7-2005, 0:19 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
PM from the team. In my book both of these issues are quite
PM significant yet they haven't received a response yet. Am I wrong
PM to expect a reply or some classification at this stage?
The best
Saturday, July 23, 2005, 6:20:21 PM, (Internet Time - @014) you wrote:
Hello Peter,
PH Answering a 2 days old message (Friday, July 22, 2005, 20:02)
PH Hello Michael,
MA Uno AMD Athlon XP (Windows #wn #wai/#wma.#wmi #was (build #wbd) on a
MA Single/#cpn (#ccd))
PH what kind of plugin have
Saturday, July 23, 2005, 7:25:46 PM, (Internet Time - @059) you wrote:
Hello Peter,
PH Answering a 2 days old message (Friday, July 22, 2005, 20:02)
PH Hello Michael,
MA Uno AMD Athlon XP (Windows #wn #wai/#wma.#wmi #was (build #wbd) on a
MA Single/#cpn (#ccd))
PH what kind of plugin have
Hi Paul,
Sunday, July 24, 2005, 1:00:16 AM, you wrote:
Therefore you'd best discuss items on this list and get confirmations.
Understood, should I therefore add a comment to the original bug report by
Donald Gregory to the effect that I have the same issue?
According to your x-mailer header
Hello Paul!
On Saturday, July 23, 2005, 7:56 PM, you wrote:
Correct, I purchased two licences the other day, the machine with
the problem is using a beta, I think 3.51.5 at the moment.
Here's the link for the current beta download:
Hello Peter,
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:53:35 +0200 GMT (24/07/2005, 02:53 +0700 GMT),
Peter Hampf wrote:
PH A reliable method to reproduce it here with 17 active accounts is the
following:
^
I have only 16 accounts on this machine,
Hello Natasha,
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:37:44 +1200 GMT (24/07/2005, 04:37 +0700 GMT),
Natasha V Pearce wrote:
NVP I see what you mean. Just realised that this only creates the folder
first time
NVP round. If the folder is subsequently deleted, it will not be recreated
by the
NVP filter.
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