Re: 3.5.23: VFs unread count going haywire
On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 13:53, MAU wrote: I thought, 'here we go again, VFs are not auto-refreshing properly'. So, I did a manual Refesh and, to my surprise, the unread count increased to 3 (see Refresh_1,png attached). What?!?! So I did another manual Refresh, and another one... and see Refresh_2.png. Every time I do a manual refresh the unread count is increased by one! I think it is the first time I have seen this and I don't know if it may be related to what Marcus Ohlström reports on thread VFs not updating properly starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Maybe, maybe not. I myself have never seen the count go wrong, but I do remember others have reported similar behaviour. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 Pro on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
VFs not updating properly
Still trying to track this down, but I can't find any pattern. I use quite some VFs, all using advance filtering, some set to auto refresh, some not. No other options are ticked in any VF. Some of my VFs, but not all, does not seem to be able to make up their minds about which messages to show. When first entering such a VF, I see a long list of messages. After refreshing, another, shorter list is shown. It doesn't seem like any new messages are added to the list, but some, and I haven't been able to track down which, messages are removed. If I leave the folder and go back, the same happens again. I am presented with the longer list, but after refreshing, some messages are lost. This happens in some, but far from all of my VFs. Whether auto refresh is on or off doesn't matter. Neither does it seem to matter which view mode I use (except that if I group by date, the grouping is gone after a refresh, but that is another bug and IMHO a minor one). Which or how many folders the VF watches doesn't seem to matter either. So, anyone else experiencing something similar? It is quite annoying and I want to be able to track this down, but I need some hints where to look. Oh, almost forgot to say. All this happened when I upgraded to 3.5 from my old stable 3.0.1.33. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 Pro on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Search: Any part doesn't contain generates strange results
I have a archive folder containing 182 messages, 175 of them I got from tbbeta, 7 from other sources. I wanted to find those other messages and searched for Any part doesn't contain tbbeta. The result was a list of all 182 messages. If any part is interpreted in a literal sense, this of course is correct, in all messages there is at least one part not containing the word tbbeta. I do however suspect this is not what people expect. I myself interpreted any part as entire message and searching for entire message doesn't contain tbbeta should generate a list of 7 messages, not 182. So, do you think there is a need for any part as it is used now, or should this be altered to entire message and treat the message as one and only one part? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 Pro on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.0.16
On Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 09:20, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please try 3.5.0.16, What is new since the original 3.5? Please post a change log! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.0.16
On Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 09:46, Maxim Masiutin wrote: What is new since the original 3.5? Please post a change log! We were fixing memory leaks. Ah, I see. Thank you for you prompt answer. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Yet another congratulate!
TB! now, at last, seems to remember the last message viewed in a folder when returning to that folder. This regardless of whether I delete messages and compress the folders (if I did in the earlier versions, TB! sure forgot immediately), restart TB! or, it seems do whatever possible. This was certainly one of the 'features' that made me feel familiar with TB!, I could always be sure I would have no idea of what message would show when I re-entered a folder. Now, I feel a little lost, wondering if it is still TB!. Everything works so smoothly, I don't have to waste time looking for the last viewed message, I could just go on reading from where I were. Phew, finally! Good work Ritlabs! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5: MSI default path
On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 11:53, Clive Taylor wrote: What if you include g:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe in quotes? It shouldn't be necessary Marcus. The installed folder information is the default apart from the drive letter. It shouldn't be, but it might. Or I am overestimating the importance of those quotes, but living in Sweden and having solved computer problems related to the stupid naming of the Program Folder in the Swedish Windows version, I tend to take those quotes seriously... If you run a Swedish version of Windows, the default program folder is C:\Program\. Can you imagine how often programs does not care to look for what is the localised standard and just goes ahead and install in C:\Program Files\? And, if they (which the do oh so often) forget to include the quotes, can you imagine just how confused Windows is when looking for eg C:\Program Files\The Bat!\... and stumbling across both C:\Program\ and C:\Program Files\? How Microsoft could choose that name for the localised Program Folder is beyond me. But this is highly OT. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Minor irritation: viewmode changed requester
On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 13:09, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: when I switch from one threading model to the other and back again, I get a viewmode changed requester when I leave the folder - however, it hasn't really changed, because everything's just the way it was when I first entered the folder. I don't know if this can be avoided, but I find it irritating (the sort of hu? what did I do? irritation). I agree, it's a hu? what did I do kind of irritation, but as MAU has pointed out, this is 'non trivial'. Tracking changes made to a view mode I think would be asking to much of TB!, but maybe it could track changes from one view mode to another. However, the way it works now is so much better than how it used to be. This email is mostly my way of saying: If you (Ritlabs) listen to Alexander, at least do not restore the behaviour to how it used to be! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Anybody willing to share his/her TBBeta archive ?
On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 17:13, MAU wrote: So, if any of you have at least 1 year's worth of TBBeta messages (I don't care if it is more) and is willing to share it with me, I would certainly appreciate it. If you can send me your MESSAGES.TBB file (as ZIP, rar or even raw) by PM I have no problem receiving attachments of any size. Is this an outcry for assisted digital suicide? Asking publicly for tons and tons of megabytes of messages, oh my God! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: My first impression of 3.5
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 22:21, Eddie Castelli wrote: So I'm preparing to install the new version over my present v3.0.1.33. Just for security reasons: Marcus, did you just install over? Or did you make a total fresh install? I installed right on top, to let TB! preserve as many of my customisations as possible. And here my hopefully not to blunt question: what are now the major changes from version 3.0.1.33 to v3.5? As Beta Testers are for the time being Out of work ;)) I hope someone can write a few notes on it. See http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=781 Fully customizable user interface is much more than it sounds like. It's a totally new GUI and it works, IMHO, a lot smoother than the old one. Things just - well, looks and feels like they should. Many of the old quirks are gone, finally. To the cost of a few ones added, of course, but on balance, the new GUI is heck of a lot nicer. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Minor irritation: viewmode changed requester
On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 19:04, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I thought of something simple like, when entering a folder, copy the viewmode settings to a $old_viewmode_settings variable, and when leaving a folder compare $current_viewmode_settings with $old_viewmode_settings, if equal no popup, if not equal popup ask to save it. I understood that's what you meant and it shouldn't be to hard to implement. Don't forget to make a BT record out of this if Ritlabs doesn't reply directly. And let us know, I will support it. OK, I think I left absolutely no doubt that I am not a programmer. :-) I am not convinced. But then again, I haven't touched a compiler for many years :-) (not since I needed a utility to rename my TB! backups according to current date) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Anybody willing to share his/her TBBeta archive ?
On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 19:15, MAU wrote: Although what I am going to say may sound strange, I have a filer that is 'working fine' and I think it should not do so. That's why, for background information, I'd like to review the discussions about NFS first. Do I smell the word 'sub-filter'? :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Anybody willing to share his/her TBBeta archive ?
On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 19:45, MAU wrote: Do I smell the word 'sub-filter'? :-) No, that's a different issue still not solved. Is something dealing with the order of 'execution' of some actions. Ah, that one. Tried to recapitulate the discussions about the NFS last summer and 'sub-filter' was what first sprung to my mind. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Opening a View Folder by pressing enter
As before, it is possible to open a View Folder by highlighting a message and pressing enter. Now, however, hitting enter while focus is on the folder list pane does the same thing. This I really like, shortcuts doing different things depending on what was in focus could be a real pain. A small but great improvement. But, this only works for regular folders, not for VFs. When viewing a VF, enter still has different meanings depending on where focus is. It's not only inconsistent in itself, now it's also inconsistent with the (better) way regular folder are treated. I've browsed through the customiser but could not find any way to correct this behaviour. Does any of you know where to look? Or is this part of the small but annoying bug that I cannot invoke the Maintenance Centre when focusing a VF? I see several Folder menu items are greyed out when I focus a VF instead of a regular folder. In some cases I believe they should be (Remove Duplicates, Compress). In others, I do understand that implementing those features would take quite some time (Empty..., Browse Deleted Message, Check For Viruses) although I would highly appreciate if they were implemented. But there is a third category of menu items being greyed out without any (apparent) reason. This is Browse, Maintenance and Copy Column Settings to... Please, un-grey those options. It's even now possible to browse a VF, just not by selecting Browse from the Folder menu. And there is probably no reason why I should not be able to invoke the Maintenance Centre from a VF, but that I can't know for sure, only Ritlabs does. Finally, copying column settings can't be that much different when focus is on a VF. Remember we can copy column settings *to* a VF, why should we not be able to copy it *from* a VF? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Opening a View Folder by pressing enter
On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 21:23, MAU wrote: Now, however, hitting enter while focus is on the folder list pane does the same thing. This I really like, shortcuts doing different things depending on what was in focus could be a real pain. A small but great improvement. Not here. hitting Enter while on the folder list will Expand/Collapse a folder branch if the folder has sub-folders or nothing at all if the folder has no sub-folders. That is what happens if I hit enter while focusing a VF, but not when focusing a regular folder. Did you try this with a VF or with a regular folder? And there is probably no reason why I should not be able to invoke the Maintenance Centre from a VF, but that I can't know for sure, only Ritlabs does. Although I am in general agreement with what you say, I think some cases are... which word should I use?... perhaps 'not so important'. I appreciate your politeness :-) For example the case you mention about invoking Maintenance from a VF. I mean, I don't know how many times a day you or others run Maintenance. I only do it once a day prior to doing a backup and I am perfectly satisfied if Maintenance can be called from a single point in the top menus. I purge and compress my message base plenty of times every day, perhaps unnecessarily often, but I'm used to it and haven't seen a reason not to. And I read almost all my messages from a singular VF, setup similar to the MTVF. That's why I noticed, maybe I should just shut up and adjust my behaviour...:-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV when change View Mode (sometimes)
On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 11:23, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Sometimes when I change View Mode (from Alt+1 to Alt+0) I get Access violation at address 00AE237B in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 68746F3E. Can anyone confirm? Just tried it some 20 times, but no, I saw no AV. FWIW, it's the same address as my AVs when cancelling out of the View Mode Editor (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Don't know if it is related, but when just exiting a View Folder, after changing the column width, and answering no to the question whether I wanted to save the new settings, I got an AV at address 00AE237B. Not exactly the same, but maybe relevant. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV when change View Mode (sometimes)
On Monday, May 16, 2005, 00:04, José C.Queiroz wrote: I resolved this AVS and others like F7 search : I deleted all view modes that I've cried with previous versions 3.01.33 . Oh oh oh, this can not be meant to be the solution. Ritlabs, how are we proceeding from here? Does José's comment make sense? How should we hunt this bug down? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
My first impression of 3.5
When the first deep alpha was released, I did not have time to take the necessary precautions to play with an insecure alpha, and as the beta-path went on, I never managed to catch up on what was going on. Peter Ouwehand's list was great, but hey, it would have taken quite some time to wade through it. As a result, I decided to stay with v3.0.1.33 until the release of v3.5. Now, the new version is released and I have upgraded. When first launching the new version, I began fiddling around with the new possibilities. I find the new shortcut editor (or customiser, I guess I should say) a bit confusing, but that might be the prise we have to pay for having the great opportunity of customising. There is however one feature I do think Ritlabs should re-implement and that is the conflict handler. When re-assigning the shortcuts the way I want them, I many times stumbled across a shortcut already assigned to something else, but as far as I could see, there is no way to see where it is assigned. Neither were there any signs of conflicting shortcuts until I tried to use it (hitting my newly assign F5 and getting a New Message Window, which was not what I expected). Furthermore, when first launching v3.5 (pro), I could not get rid of the Configuration Toolbar. If I un-ticked it, it went away, but as soon as I restarted TB!, it was back. The solution was to un-tick the Standard Toolbar, re-tick it and *then* un-tick the Configuration Toolbar. That way, the Configuration Toolbar stayed away even after a restart of TB!. Next, I noticed auto-size was turned on, although I have never used it. I found the new menu item Options | Preferences | Limit expansion of the first column to and that took care of it. It didn't how ever affect the auto-sizing of the folder tree. Is there any way to make TB! not auto-size the folder tree? If not, consider this a bug report. I find it quite annoying. Next, when browsing a VF, new message was received and added. They were however not added at the bottom, as they should, but at the top (sorting on creation date, ascending order). A quick stroke at my newly assigned refresh shortcut, F5, took care of it (after un-assigning F5 from creating a new message :-) This I could not reproduce. It was a one time performance and I believe we could forget about it if no one else - or I - can confirm. Next, a minor one. I noticed I am not able to invoke the Maintanence Centre when focusing a VF. Not a big deal, but I really don't see the logic of greying this item out just because I am browsing a VF. And so a question. Why does TB! say Plain in the rightmost lower corner of the main window, right next to the status bar? I don't understand what it mean and I cannot find any way to change it. Finally, as Peter says at the bottom of his list, some good news: 9Val, it seems you finally solved my pet bug completely. As you might remember, we worked quite intense trying to pinpoint why VFs didn't refresh properly when compressing the watched folders (see https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3620). You solved it, but at the cost of the refreshing taking quite some time. Now, it doesn't. The refresh just like they should and the do it lightening fast. Great job! And oh, yes, I almost forgot. When canceling out of the View Mode Setup window, I received an AV at address 00AE237B in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 69724B6C. I could repeat at will, by opening the View Mode Setup window and close it again. When finally exiting the Preference window as well, I got AVs at address . Read of address .. As soon as I OKed, there was a new one. I had to quit TB! with the task manager. This, I have not been able to reproduce either. Hopefully it won't happen again. As others have already said, great job! A big thanks to all of you, the developers as well as the testers who dared when I did not. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Columns that move..
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 13:47, MAU wrote: Version 3.5 has not solved the problem of the columns... Go to Options/Preferences/Messages and select 'Limit expansion of first column' and set it to 1. This setting also affects the first column of message list (i.e. Subject in a threaded view). But it doesn't effect the folder tree. I agree with Livio, the auto-sizing folder tree is quite annoying. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Test: (was: Re: OT Sleeping well [was Re: Attachment - file name])
On Friday, May 13, 2005, 11:27, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: ROTFL Just hijacking this thread for a quick test. Will let it die soon again. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Message focus jumping when receiving messages in a folder grouped by date and collapsed
Stop me if I am reporting things others have already mentioned. Since upgrading to 3.5, I group my TBBETA folder by date (threading by references, sorting by creation date, ascending). If all groups are collapsed and focus is on Today, this group gets fully expanded when a new message arrives. The focus also shifts to what to me seems like a totally random message. I tend to feel lost when this happens... If focus is on a message within a thread when receiving a new message, it gets added to the thread nice and quietly, just bumping the counter by one. As it should be. Can anyone confirm? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message focus jumping when receiving messages in a folder grouped by date and collapsed
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 14:04, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Since upgrading to 3.5, I group my TBBETA folder by date (threading by references, sorting by creation date, ascending). If all groups are collapsed and focus is on Today, this group gets fully expanded when a new message arrives. The focus also shifts to what to me seems like a totally random message. I tend to feel lost when this happens... Just noticed: If the groups are not collapsed but the focus is still on Today, the group does not expand anymore than it already is, but focus still shifts. This time to the first message thought, not randomly as if the groups are collapsed. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Columns that move..
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 14:11, MAU wrote: But it doesn't effect the folder tree. I agree with Livio, the auto-sizing folder tree is quite annoying. I does affect my folder tree, I verified that before replying. Then we have a bug at hand. Works for you, not for me or Livio. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message focus jumping when receiving messages in a folder grouped by date and collapsed
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 14:13, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Just noticed: If the groups are not collapsed but the focus is still on Today, the group does not expand anymore than it already is, but focus still shifts. This time to the first message thought, not randomly as if the groups are collapsed. Should have tested this more before reporting. This is how if works. No matter if the groups are fully collapsed, somewhat collapsed or fully expanded, as long as the focus is on a group name while a new message arrives, the focus shifts back to the message which was in focus before focusing the group name. There is no difference whether the groups are collapsed or not, the focus never shifts to a random message. Sorry for any confusion. This is however still a bug, focus should not shift away from the group name and the message list should not be expanded in any way, just because a new message arrives. Any confirmations? What I haven't tried is what happens if I focus the group name before ever focusing a message, ie the first time I enter a folder. That I cannot test now though, I have to leave for a while. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: My first impression of 3.5
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 15:54, MAU wrote: And oh, yes, I almost forgot. When canceling out of the View Mode Setup window, I received an AV at address 00AE237B in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 69724B6C. I could repeat at will, by opening the View Mode Setup window and close it again. When finally exiting the Preference window as well, I got AVs at address . Read of address .. As soon as I OKed, there was a new one. I had to quit TB! with the task manager. was a new one. I had to quit TB! with the task manager. I have just had an occurrence of this, which I also had and reported in the last couple of RCs. Any BT item I should point my browser to? Sorry for not keeping up with the list, I should soon be on track again and manage on myself. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: My first impression of 3.5
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 15:56, MAU wrote: And so a question. Why does TB! say Plain in the rightmost lower corner of the main window, right next to the status bar? I don't understand what it mean and I cannot find any way to change it. If I recall correctly, 'Plain' indicates you are not using OTFE (On The Fly Encryption). So now I revealed I do not encrypt my message base, bummer! :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AV in search: always reproducible!
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 15:29, Max Shirshin wrote: MS When pressing F7 to invoke search dialog, I ALWAYS get an AV in MS the release (!!!) version. This means I have a release, and can't MS even search for a message? No AV here. F7 brings up the message finder as it should. I was upgrading from an 3.0.2.10, which is almost similar to a previous release version. Did anybody try to upgrade from the previous release, w/o installing all the intermediate betas? I upgraded to 3.5 from 3.0.1.33 without installing any version in between, but I don't see your AVs when invoking the search window. Another hard one to track down, it seems. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: My first impression of 3.5
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 13:38, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Next, when browsing a VF, new message was received and added. They were however not added at the bottom, as they should, but at the top (sorting on creation date, ascending order). A quick stroke at my newly assigned refresh shortcut, F5, took care of it (after un-assigning F5 from creating a new message :-) This I could not reproduce. It was a one time performance and I believe we could forget about it if no one else - or I - can confirm. Now it happened again. Can no one else confirm this? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Alt-left not working as expected when messages are grouped by date
I noticed yet another unexpected behaviour when grouping my threaded message list by date. If I focus on a message at the lowest level (lets call it A) and hit left, focus is now moved to the group label (Today). So far so good. If I now hit alt-left, I expect TB! to shift focus back to A (the last viewed message), but it doesn't. Instead, it shifts focus to the message viewed before A. Finally, hitting alt-right after that brings me back to A. It seems like TB! internally doesn't change focus from A to the group label. If so, it wouldn't surprise me if this explains the strange behaviour reported in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. Still looking for confirmations, both from the users (confirming the behaviour) and from the developers (commenting my hypothesis). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Columns that move..
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 18:17, Mary Bull wrote: Amended report: After closing and relaunching The Bat!, the change in Preferences/Messages/Limit expansion of the first column to 1 took effect. That leaves me and Livio and at least I have no idea what is special about our setups :-/ -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Columns that move..
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 18:28, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Amended report: After closing and relaunching The Bat!, the change in Preferences/Messages/Limit expansion of the first column to 1 took effect. That leaves me and Livio and at least I have no idea what is special about our setups :-/ Same problem on my laptop :-( Both computers are running W2K, but so does MAU. That can't be it. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Columns that move..
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 18:49, Goncalo Farias wrote: MO That leaves me and Livio and at least I have no idea what is MO special about our setups :-/ Mine also moves. The Messages Limit Expansion also doesn't work for me. From Livio's first post, I got the feeling this has been discussed before. Have Ritlabs commented? Are there a BT record somewhere? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Tabbing around between panes, what's the forth pane?
Using tab to move from pane to pane, I usually got back to where I started after striking tab three times. Now, hitting tab takes me from the preview pane to the folder list to the message list to ... I don't know. There's no attachment pane, the messages I am looking at doesn't even have an attachment. I thought the context menu keyboard key would reveal where focus went, but nothing happens when I strike this key. So, what pane is in focus when I tab away from the message list? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Tabbing around between panes, what's the forth pane?
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 20:15, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: So, what pane is in focus when I tab away from the message list? Tabbing now jumps to the links in a message as well. Not if I use the PTV and when I use the RTV, it only jumps through the links the *first* time I tab past the preview pane, not the subsequent times. Furthermore, even when using the RTV, focus is mysteriously lost when leaving the message list pane, not appearing in the preview pane until I hit tab one extra time. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Columns that move..
On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 19:58, Mary Bull wrote: I did a search and found it. This goes way back to the first Deep Alpha. Livio's first post about it was on April 27. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And there is indeed a Bug Tracker issue report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4508 Thank you Mary, not only for your answer but also for your summary in the BT! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mail ticker..
On Friday, May 13, 2005, 14:46, Foster, Graham wrote: Where has the option gone to change the vile green text colour in the mail ticker gone. You can change the background - but I was convinced you could also change the text colour. Not in RC9 though. Anyone confirm it has gone (or was it my imagination?) FWIW, I cannot, running an age old 3.0.1.33, change anything but the background colour either. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mail ticker..
On Friday, May 13, 2005, 14:56, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Where has the option gone to change the vile green text colour in the mail ticker gone. You can change the background - but I was convinced you could also change the text colour. Not in RC9 though. Anyone confirm it has gone (or was it my imagination?) FWIW, I cannot, running an age old 3.0.1.33, change anything but the background colour either. ...meaning, it probably was imagination... -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 is now available
On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 09:29, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: DE mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Shortcuts are not assigned to the main menu so they cannot be used by mistake when other windows are active. You can find the shortcuts in local menus. This consideration was taken from earlier versions starting from 0.xx :-) I do believe he meant the underlining of a letter, to let the user know which key to press while browsing the menus by keyboard. But while we're at it, I still have not tried the last betas, but I do believe this has not been discussed. In earlier versions, we had to assign shortcuts not only per windows but per pane as well. It makes sense when we're dealing with for example the standard use of the 'del' key, but for most shortcuts it does not. Have you considered this and made it easier to assign window wide instead of pane wide shortcuts? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 23:30, Alto Speckhardt wrote: With Auto Format On you can't make a paragraph (by pressing Return) without inserting an empty line after it. If you try it the next line is drawn back to append the previous one - as it should not be. If you disable Auto Format then no formating is done to one paragraph in its own. Yo can have the first line only half full with no Return behind it, but now the next line is not drawn back - as it very well should be. You won't get Ritlabs to alter MicroEd in this respect. MicroEd is loved for it's - to the newcomer - sometimes peculiar features and changing this type of behaviour would yield an outcry among many of us. Instead, why don't you try out TB!'s other editor? At least in this respect it does behave as you want it to. I've inquired about this issue years ago but have not even gotten so much as a reply. (Same as with the other bug reports I submitted over the years, BTW.) You got the new editor added... Jokes aside, I do think you should have got a reply and I do acknowledge the Windows editor was not added as a direct outcome of your request, but at least this shows that development of TB! continues at a rapid rate. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
On Thursday, May 5, 2005, 10:07, Marcus Ohlström wrote: You got the new editor added... Jokes aside, I do think you should have got a reply and I do acknowledge the Windows editor was not added as a direct outcome of your request, but at least this shows that development of TB! continues at a rapid rate. OK, this proves the Windows editor might not be what you are looking for. It obviously does not break lines as I thought it should. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC2 new-/non-/fixed issues
On Thursday, May 5, 2005, 02:13, Peter Ouwehand wrote: M My goodness, a big THANKS to you!! You're welcome. I'll deduct one beer from the amount I owe you ;) I've tried that but he refused, he instead insisted *he* should buy *me* a beer *after* we finished the ones I bought for him. I could not resist that proposal (but I haven't been to Madrid yet). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 21:14, MAU wrote: Same here, Windows did shut down but I would not say TB did shut down _properly_. Why? It did shut down too fast and I didn't see it empty my Trash folders This is a long standing issue. A few years ago, TB! shut down properly under such circumstances, but that behaviour changed a long time ago. I don't remember when, but I am certain it was not during this year. I strongly believe, although I am not certain, that it was before 2004 as well. I've been on my way to report this several times, but never got around to it. Partially because this behaviour suites my personal needs, I don't want TB! to purge and compress if someone else shuts down my computer while TB! is running, but I suppose it is not intended behaviour so I suppose it should be fixed. and, what is worse, it did not save the last changes I had done to the UI (i.e. folder tree column widths) That makes a strong case for fixing this issue. I guess I'll have to live with my folders occasionally being compressed when not intended to, it's not important enough to accept the risk of loosing modified settings. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Defined keys with QTs
On Wednesday, April 20, 2005, 17:31, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: I have a snipped QT defined with a handle of ''. I have assigned it a hotkey shortcut of Ctrl+Alt+X, but it only works once per message. I can use the QT by typing it longhand, as in [Ctrl+Space], but I'd like to be able to use it as I used to. Isn't '' part of a trout? Hey, guys, don't help him out, we don't need this one! ;-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.17 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Spell Checker Menu
On Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 00:03, MAU wrote: No, not to my knowledge, although I do have Office 2000. And I've used them, of course, in Word. Could TB! have automatically imported them? No, I don't think it would be dome automagically. To tell you the truth I don't even remember the procedure to follow so TB can access them. When running Office 2000 and below, TB! discovers the CSAPI dictionaries automatically. So, Mary, what you see below the line is Office's CSAPI dictionaries, automatically added. But I see you have already straightened that out. It wasn't until I reinstalled my computer and began using Office 2003 I needed MAU's Proof.zip :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.17 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Broken sorting on refresh VF
On Thursday, April 14, 2005, 10:52, Ivan wrote: I have VF age less than 1 days from some folders. I choose refresh for virtual folder to exclude old messages, and in this case a have broken sorting (see attached). Click again, click again and I have normal sorting back. Minor bug? Finally, can I simply exclude automatically old messages from such VF? What does mean Auto Refresh in VF properties? What events can cause refreshing VF? In a reply to me sent September 13th 2004 (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), 9val stated: ,- | MO I would like to know when a refresh is done if I select Auto refresh | MO for a VF. Is the folder refreshed every time a change occur in the | MO folder(s) the VF is watching? | | Here is a list: | 1. New message arrived (POP) | 2. Message attributes (flags) were changed | 3. Message was moved | 4. Message was deleted | 5. Importing of new messages | | MO At regular intervals independent of changes in the message base? | MO Both? | | No `- Since TB! does not check the message base at regular intervals, there is no way to notice when a messages has become to old. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Trout! (was: Re: Broken sorting on refresh VF)
On Thursday, April 14, 2005, 11:10, Marcus Ohlström wrote: I have VF age less than 1 days from some folders. I choose refresh for virtual folder to exclude old messages, and in this case a have broken sorting (see attached). Click again, click again and I have normal sorting back. Minor bug? Finally, can I simply exclude automatically old messages from such VF? What does mean Auto Refresh in VF properties? What events can cause refreshing VF? Trouting myself for over quoting... Won't happen again. Hopefully. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.15 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, 10:28, David Pascoe wrote: Don't throw anything away. 2063.499165 megabytes (and counting) of free storage so you'll never need to delete another message. I'm too lazy to work out how quickly the counter is increasing, but it isn't *that* quickly. Neat stunt. It's fast enough to coop with the stream of tbbeta messages :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.13 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Culinary School of Fort Worth Super Suppers
On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, 18:40, Richard Newman wrote: Changing settings from History Default Addressbook to Default Addressbook Only should cure my problem of accidently creating spam here . . . but the History still remains and I'd prefer to have History included in address line pop-up. This might be the right time to push for my https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2276 -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.13 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Who sent this e-mail? (was: Global folders, multiple e-mail accounts, and replies)
On Sunday, April 3, 2005, 06:05, hggdh wrote: My personal view is that an e-mail client should frown on using a 'From:' address that is not configured under a valid account. In other words, the 'Reply-To' header field has to be a valid reference when the e-mail leaves the e-mail client. This, for an e-mail client, would go a long way on having said e-mail client taken out of some spammer lists. I do follow your thoughts, but as long as we CAN alter the From: address, I see no reason not to let us do it in the easiest way. I would applause a more rigid email standard with, say, certificates with hard coded From: addresses or any other measures to make life harder for spammers, but as long as (non-encrypted) emailing is based on trust, I do want the advantages that provides along with the disadvantages. I do, from time to time, have legit reasons to change the From: address temporarily and I do appreciate TB! letting me do it as easy as it does. I doubt this feature makes spammers use TB!, there must be more efficient tools our there. Our concern should not be with spamming, but with spoofing. Preventing spoofing is not made at the client level thought, it must be dealt with by the ISP or the receiver. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Global folders, multiple e-mail accounts, and replies
On Sunday, April 3, 2005, 01:39, hggdh wrote: (b) on Global Folders, if you override the default 'From:' e-mail address, TB! should use the corresponding account to send this e-mail. I've never used GFs and haven't thought much about how TB! should handle them, so I'll leave that part unanswered. Multiple accounts I have used though. What you do when changing the 'From:' address is just that, changing the 'From:' address. Changing accounts is made either by right clicking the account name in the status bar of the editor window, or by selecting account in Options | Active account. This is intended behaviour and, according to me, reasonable behaviour as well. If a change of the 'From:' field would change account as well, I do not see how I could change the 'From:' address without changing accounts, something I need to do now and then. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Lost mail again
On Thursday, March 31, 2005, 19:33, Chris Weaven wrote: Mine came without a sent date but my server knows when it got it, as a result, I sort by received anyway, as thats the order it came in. This is an option, but my preference is to sort by sent time rather than received time, just incase there is a large delay in receiving the message which could put messages in the incorrect order at time of writing. I guess the confusion started when you stated the message came through without a received date (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) while you sure meant without a sent date. Looking at Seans message, the signature discloses it has been sent via my mobile, in other words not from The Bat!. Conclusing: Seans mobile has a faulty email client and there is no need to blame TB!. At least not this time :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: when my fixed width font and when system font ?
On Thursday, March 17, 2005, 07:20, David Pascoe wrote: How does TB! decide to display using my custom fixed with font - vt100 and the horrible fixedsys font ? I have attached a small dump of 2 messages in the same thread. They both say Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can this be related to the UTF problem? The PTV (Plain Text Viewer) is not able to show UTF messages and therefore TB! switches to the RTV (Rich Text Viewer) when stumbling over a UTF message. If so, you should be able to overcome it by changing your font settings for the RTV to match those of the PTV. Maybe a long shot, character sets are not my strong side... -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.7 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PocoTB
On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, 17:06, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: M when is the next post-pre-beta going to be released. ;-) post-pre? Isn't that like saying I 'ain't got none, a double negative? MAU Maybe. Then post-pre-beta = beta, correct? ;-) In this case it may (more appropriately) imply after the pre-beta but before the real beta... sub-beta? A sub-beta must, logically, be subsequent to a beta. A post-pre-beta can maybe be the same as a sub-pre-beta, but not as a sub-beta. Nice coming home to this debate after spending the day at the library reading political-philosophical articles about the concept of intergenerational justice. Being able to contribute here makes the mind wrapping I've done today worth something substantial :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PocoTB
On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, 19:12, Francis Segond wrote: That's going to please my w(W)ife anyway. Does this also apply for my d(D)og Xanthippe? I don't know, but I noticed you really wanted to make sure you was pleased yourself: FRANCIS J. SEGOND :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Global View Mode vs. Folder View Mode
On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, 21:27, Manuel Breitfeld wrote: It is our mistake, correctly global view mode should be named forced, it always ovverides folder configuration Hmm, okay. So what would be the solution for me? Going into each and every folder just to set Folder View Mode Standard? In principle, yes. You do however not have to do it for each and every folder. Just set one to the appropriate View Mode, then right click that folder and select Copy Column Settings To At least this saves you some work. But, I do agree with you, Folder View Mode should have higher priority over Global View Modes. It would make GVM more usable and besides, it would comply to TB!'s template priority, where folder templates overrides global templates. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.6 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.6 Return (pre-beta) is now available
On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, 21:12, 9Val wrote: [*] UI : Manual re-threading So far, I haven't even tried the new beta (or was it sub-post-pre-beta?) but I must say I really appreciate this one! Thanks a bunch! But, I do have one suggestion. I can easily see myself loosing messages by accidentally dragging'n'dropping them on the wrong thread. If I by accident move a message to another folder, I can always get it back by browsing deleted messages, but when re-threading a message, I suppose that won't be an option anymore. What would be needed is an undo functionality. I've seen the need for this for a long time, especially for users not aware of ways to manually undo (browsing deleted messages for example) and now seems to be a good time suggesting it. So, 9Val, any comments on the probability of an undo feature in the not-so-distant-future? If it requires to much work, drop the idea, there are other more important things to address, but if it doesn't... Please, at least consider it! -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.6 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.6 Draggable attachments pane
On Wednesday, March 16, 2005, 00:49, MAU wrote: I don't have an attachment pane or icon for attachments in the message window at all. You have to first attach a file to see it :) And make sure View | Attached Files | Show as a Pain is selected. Which, IIRC, was reported not changeable in a recent post-alpha. Don't know if it is now. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.6 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.6 Draggable attachments pane
On Wednesday, March 16, 2005, 01:00, Marcus Ohlström wrote: And make sure View | Attached Files | Show as a Pain is selected. Pane pane pane. I thought of pulling a joke about pain. May I blame Freud for this one? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.6 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.6 Draggable attachments pane
On Wednesday, March 16, 2005, 01:13, MAU wrote: And make sure View | Attached Files | Show as a Pain is selected. That's for the message pane, not for the new message window (editor). Ah, sorry. After learning to spell pane, I will try reading the messages before I answer to them :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.6 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)
On Monday, March 14, 2005, 13:56, 9Val wrote: Like I said before, to save filter all times statistic changes is too expensive, so it doesn't. But if you've changed filter all changes, including statistics are saved. In most cases my filters are once-composed longtime-used and therefore contain only session information. Do you like statistics to be just for an session? It must be consistent, either always save statistics or never save them. Do not let it depend on whether filters are changed or not. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Lost my receive mail button
On Sunday, March 13, 2005, 01:12, Peter Ouwehand wrote: That helps, but: it is inconsistent. Here the Send icon is the first to drop off, see attachment. More logical would be, as in other programs, to start dropping icons from right to left. Doesn't Word drop them on a less-used basis? Is this what TB! does too? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
On Friday, February 25, 2005, 19:42, Dennis Hays wrote: What we all have in common, on this list, are the reasons we originally came to TB! And, from a marketing point of view, these have to be respected. I don't think most of us looked at this product because of its fine HTML viewer. When I first started using TB!, HTML was merely not a question. Now it is. The wish originally linked to in this thread was filed by me, mainly because I then used TB! at work and had to deal with newsletter sent to me in HTML, newsletter I could not read without downloading the inline images. I had two choices, manually opening every newsletter in a separate browser window or switching email client. I choose the former, but must admit I at several time was close to switching email client instead. I could not affect the ones sending those letters and I had to read them to be able to carry out my daily work. As long as emails in the corporate world are sent with inline images, a MUA targeted at the corporate world must be able to handle inline images. The money is with the corporate world and Ritlabs need the money, hence my request to adjust TB! to fit the needs of corporate users. I do however appreciate the focus on security and privacy and thus suggested an *optional* *whitelist*, not a general downloading of all images. But that has been covered in this thread several times already. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Config: Registry - File
On Thursday, February 24, 2005, 17:26, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MM What kind of configuration data should we keep in registry and what MM should we put into a file? Here's how I see it ... Data pertinent only to the local system - window size / position data and disk folder usage are certainly right for registry storage. But data that pertains to a user's preferences should be more portable. Current selection data and switch settings are very much user dependant rather than environment based. I agree, but would like to add connection settings and servers to the list of data related to the local system. When going away, I usually copy my whole TB! directory to my laptop. I have intentionally set up my systems quite similar to ensure this is possible (same folder structure etc) and I must say this already works quite nice. There is a few annoyances though, one of them being that I every time have to change my SMTP server. I do not use the same server when travelling as I do at home, but the SMTP server setting seem to be stored somewhere in the files I copy. The only files I make sure are *not* copied are: \MAIL\Account.~flb \MAIL\Account.flb \MAIL\account name\Account.~flb \MAIL\account name\Account.flb \MAIL\except.log \MAIL\account name\Account.log The latter two are excluded by obvious reasons. The former four I don't remember why I exclude, but maybe it gives you some hints of which settings I don't want synchronized between my computers? Hope this helps. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Config: Registry - File
On Thursday, February 24, 2005, 18:03, Marcus Ohlström wrote: The only files I make sure are *not* copied are: \MAIL\Account.~flb \MAIL\Account.flb \MAIL\account name\Account.~flb \MAIL\account name\Account.flb \MAIL\except.log \MAIL\account name\Account.log The latter two are excluded by obvious reasons. The former four I don't remember why I exclude, but maybe it gives you some hints of which settings I don't want synchronized between my computers? Oh, forgot to mention. Excluding these files also makes folder settings made on one computer not replicated to the other. For example, I would like purge settings replicated, they are not. Again, I don't remember why I excluded the files mentioned, but I do remember I had good reasons. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Config: Registry - File
On Thursday, February 24, 2005, 19:10, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: There is a few annoyances though, one of them being that I every time have to change my SMTP server. I do not use the same server when travelling as I do at home, but the SMTP server setting seem to be stored somewhere in the files I copy. You could solve that with xrayapp I think. Yes, but that was not my point, my point was SMTP server should be regarded as a system locale setting. Thanks anyway. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Config: Registry - File
On Thursday, February 24, 2005, 22:05, Maxim Masiutin wrote: I think that the path to the working directory should be the only value kept in the Registry. What do you think about it? As long as you separate system locale settings from general settings (ie windows sizes, server names etc from folder structure, editor configuration etc) I for one does not care if you store the settings in the registry or in files. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 - cannot run it under another windows user
On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 06:55, Boris Anders wrote: Right click your desktop icon and make sure the Start In box points to your Bat directory... C:\Program Files\The Bat! or wherever you have it installed. Works now for me, too. Thanks a lot. I hope developers has seen this bug/read our messages :-). Stefan was the first one pointing this out, so I am sure they know :-) See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Just another test
On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 12:14, Stuart Hemming wrote: Is it me that's generating the [x] after Re:? I'm sure that there's an option somewhere to toggle this but I can't find it to check. Uncheck Account | Properties | Templates | Reply | Use reply numbering in the subject line. Or use the proper macros in your templates, whatever suites you best. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I like the threading
On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 14:43, Roelof Otten wrote: Yep, though it's somewhat of a double edged sword. Just was looking for a message and couldn't find it even though I could find the first message of the thread. Turned out that my contact had been using a thing called 'Internet mail system' that didn't include threading headers. Because of the Re: in the subject, it was rightly deemed a reply. So TB hung it to the first message with that subject. And as we were discussing a yearly returning event, TB thought the replies were related to a message almost a year old in stead of one a mere ten days ago. Got to revise my archiving system I think. Rather you should file a bug report and suggest that TB!'s threading mechanism should be better. Of course TB! cannot know exactly where to thread a message lacking the threading headers, but it would be a advocated guess that it should first look messages written in the last days/weeks before looking for messages one year old. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Losing the ' [x]' when I reply
On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 15:23, Stuart Hemming wrote: I know that there is an option to turn off reply numbering (Re[x]: subject) but I can't find it. Pointers please. You already got it, I said: Uncheck Account | Properties | Templates | Reply | Use reply numbering in the subject line. Or use the proper macros in your templates, whatever suites you best. and Tony added: Put %SINGLERE in your reply template. I'll cc this to you directly in case list messages doesn't reach you properly. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons (was: Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available)
On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 19:35, Raymund Tump wrote: did You extracted thebat.lng file too? It is needed for this now. Yes, I extracted all files, added the batskin.xml and the three icon files from batskin.zip. I just tried to rename the thebat.lng file and it nearly looks like your screenshot after that. I wish I could get my TB! to look as yours by renaming a file... I've tried deleting all registry settings and running the alpha from a new catalogue, but still no menu labels :-/ And yes, of course I made sure I got all files this time too. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available
On Monday, February 21, 2005, 19:37, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: It's an Alpha, so please be aware of the numerous bugs and omissions - please feel free to mention them here or at the BT. To start with, I do not see the menu labels. I see the shortcuts, but not the label themselves. For example, under the Account menu, instead of: Properties Shift+Ctrl+P I see: Shift+Ctrl+P Of course, I am not sure I am looking at the Account menu, the head labels are blank as well... -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available
On Monday, February 21, 2005, 21:18, Marcus Ohlström wrote: It's an Alpha, so please be aware of the numerous bugs and omissions - please feel free to mention them here or at the BT. To start with, I do not see the menu labels. I see the shortcuts, but not the label themselves. I just added the recently posted batskin.xml and things do look a little different, but still no menu labels in main window. In the editor window I do see the menu labels though. Didn't try this before adding batskin.xml so I can't tell whether that is needed or not, but I suppose it's not related since I still does not see the menu labels in the main window. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons (was: Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available)
On Monday, February 21, 2005, 22:37, Marek Mikus wrote: download following archive and extract included files with icons into Home directory: http://www.thebat.cz/files/images_3029.zip (140kB) Yes, now I see the icons, but still no menu labels. Are I and Tony the only ones not seeing the menu labels? No one else has commented on this. Tony, are you running W2K too? Your signature does not reveal. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons (was: Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available)
On Monday, February 21, 2005, 22:59, Marek Mikus wrote: Yes, now I see the icons, but still no menu labels. Are I and Tony the only ones not seeing the menu labels? No one else has commented on this. did You extracted thebat.lng file too? It is needed for this now. Yes, I extracted all files, added the batskin.xml and the three icon files from batskin.zip. In case you don't understand how things look over here, have a look at the attached image. Took a while before I even realised there were menus... I am running this on a W2K Server SP4 in a VMware station, but that shouldn't matter. And no, I will not run it in my regular environment until it's at least semi-stable. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc attachment: alphadeep9nomenulabels.PNG Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons (was: Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available)
On Monday, February 21, 2005, 23:11, Tony Boom wrote: MO Tony, are you running W2K too? Your signature does not reveal. My signature does not reveal what? Obviously it does, I've never heard of gentoo before. Sorry. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons (was: Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available)
On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 00:26, Tony Boom wrote: With all due respect to the boys at RITLABS but the time span between the last beta and this should have produced more than a virtually non useable version. You know we are talking big changes here? And besides, this isn't a beta, it's an alpha. Usually they don't even release alphas. I really don't think it's fair of you to complain about the usability of a alpha. But that's a discussion we have had many times, probably I shouldn't even post this not to start another sub-thread about Ritlabs' release policies. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager
On Friday, February 18, 2005, 17:22, Mary Bull wrote: BAT WebMail? I've not seen or heard of this one! Any links/info about it? There's this, called BatPost: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/batpost/ I believe he was referring to The Bat! Web. See http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/ for a complete (?) list of Ritlabs' products. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB! and IMAP stability (was:Re: the bat! new wishes !!!)
On Thursday, February 17, 2005, 12:34, Allie Martin wrote: If you really love TB!'s features, then you'll not find a client good enough to replace it, so if you look for better working IMAP than what TB! currently offers, you'll find it, but then, you'll lose not being able to work with some of TB!'s nice features. This is the case for me with ThunderBird. Speaking of TB! and IMAP, I have myself considered switching to IMAP, but I am quite afraid of the reports of mailboxes emptying themselves. IIRC, you Allie has stumbled across this showstopper at least two times. Do you - or anyone else - know what has been done to improve the stability of TB!'s IMAP support? Are there any other major showstoppers I should be aware of before trying out IMAP? I am mainly interested in the risk of loosing emails, small annoyances does not bother me at this stage. Oh, I almost forgot the problem with remote outboxes. This does IMO qualify as a major bug, sending multiple emails is almost as bad as loosing emails. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View Threads by References Bug?
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 17:07, Stefan Dorscht wrote: I've been reading the new mail here in the list using Control + -. The option View Threads by References is activated, but when I was reading the last unread mail, the Thread-view changed. I don't get it, what has changed? Since we don't know how you set things up from the beginning, it's hard to tell what has changed.. What I can see is that your scroll bar at the bottom is shifted somewhat to the right. Maybe you missed ctrl and just hit - ? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: View Threads by References Bug?
On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, 00:09, Stefan Dorscht wrote: Seems to be a bug in my brain... :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filtering VFs by received date
On Thursday, February 10, 2005, 14:35, Marcus Ohlström wrote: In addition to the current possibility to filter VFs by message age, I would like to be able to filter based on how many days ago a message was received. Better late then never: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4264 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4265 -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BayesIt won't learn
On Thursday, February 10, 2005, 12:08, Roelof Otten wrote: Even though BayesIt catches most (two thirds to three quarters) of my spam, it seems to be incapable of catching two series of identical spam messages, I mark them as spam every time. Have you ensured there is no white list kicking in? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Filtering VFs by received date
In addition to the current possibility to filter VFs by message age, I would like to be able to filter based on how many days ago a message was received. The Date of option would help if I could input relative values. As it is now, I can only specify fixed dates. I know this has been discussed here, but I cannot find any BT item. Before adding one, does anyone know of such an item already? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filtering VFs by received date
On Thursday, February 10, 2005, 19:13, Roger Phillips wrote: MO In addition to the current possibility to filter VFs by message MO age, I would like to be able to filter based on how many days ago a MO message was received. If you use two filters, one for 'AGE' greater than, 'AND' and a second one for 'AGE' less than, should give you only mail a particular day. For example greater than 3 days and less than 5 days should give you only mail which is four days old. Will this not give you what you require? No, I want to view all mails received more than x days ago. I'm not certain though whether this option looks at the received date or the created date. 'age' uses the creation date and that is my problem. I want to filter based on received date and there is currently no way to set up a filter that shows all messages *received* more than x days ago. Unless I use 'date of', but then I have to edit the filter daily since there is no way to specify relative values using 'date of'. I hope I made myself more clear. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filtering VFs by received date
On Thursday, February 10, 2005, 19:57, Peter Fjelsten wrote: RP If you use two filters, one for 'AGE' greater than, 'AND' and a RP second one for 'AGE' less than, should give you only mail a RP particular day. Am I the only one who would also like to be able to select hours for age? Would be great too. Well, are there any BT items, or should I add two (I'll do the work for you Peter)? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: addressbook disappearing
On Sunday, January 23, 2005, 14:47, Cees wrote: and again for no reason at all, all of my entries in my addressbook have disappeared. Thank god for backups. ;) This is not the first time this behaviour occurs. Anyone else ever experiennced this? FWIW, no (running the same version as you do). Any ideas when they disappear? Any pattern? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: addressbook disappearing
On Sunday, January 23, 2005, 16:59, Alexey N. Vinogradov wrote: and again for no reason at all, all of my entries in my addressbook have disappeared. Thank god for backups. ;) This is not the first time this behaviour occurs. Anyone else ever experiennced this? MO FWIW, no (running the same version as you do). Any ideas when they MO disappear? Any pattern? hm.. One possibility come to the mind: when using Win XP the system update may be invoked. Since The bat! files is under guard (i.e., they are NOT documents which system saves by default), the original AB will be renamed (as TheBat[1].abd, for example), and restored copy (which may be empty) will be used instead. Since The Bat! doesn't know about it, it will show the restored (i.e., empty) copy... Beats me, I've never tried XP. Hopefully someone else will be able to assist. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Multipart message question
On Friday, January 21, 2005, 03:23, James Senick wrote: I'm really not sure if this is a beta issue or not. I receive Web statistics reports that are multipart html messages with embedded images. Forwarding these messages leaves the recipient without images since the embedded images are sent as part_01.jpg, part_02.jpg, etc.. Try Specials | Alternative Forward. Also, double-clicking the html attachment renders it in the browser without images for the same reason. Check out https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3752. This BT item both outlines a workaround and is a feature wish. Feel free to add your comments. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Target of outgoing filters not adjusting when moving folders
On Wednesday, January 12, 2005, 22:05, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: | When I move a folder, incoming filters pointing to this folder are | automatically adjusted to point to the new location. | Outgoing filters are not but should be. Maybe you should test this with the most recent beta version, which is 3.0.2.10 - you are still using 3.0.1.33 (the 3.0.1 release version). I think I vaguely remember that this was fixed. And I may be wrong. :-) I probably should, but as I just stated in the bug report, I do not have time to install a new beta at the moment. I trust you and Boris this has been fixed and close the report. Thanks for your attention. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Target of outgoing filters not adjusting when moving folders
Just added the following as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4206 ,- | When I move a folder, incoming filters pointing to this folder are | automatically adjusted to point to the new location. | | Outgoing filters are not but should be. | | I have not tried this with read or replied filters. `- -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common vs account filters
On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 02:23, Thomas Fernandez wrote: BA Yes, I can confirm this behavior, but can't say whether this is a BA bug or wanted. But I think this is wanted, because if a filter BA matches a message, filtering stops (if not [X] Continue processing BA with other filters is set). I just tested it and it works as you described on my home computer. However, this is not what I want. When the first common filter catches, I don't want the other 100 or so common filters tested. simply because it takes minutes and on occasion, makes TB choke on it (tried it). Create a parent filter matching all messages and make your common filters subfilters of this catch-all-filter. Make sure Continue processing with other filters is ticked for the parent filter. When a filter matches, TB! should stop processing filters within the same sub filter group but continue through other filters below the parent filter. I have not tested this with common filters, but it works with account level filters and it seems to be exactly what you want. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: %CC Problem with Reply To All
On Monday, January 3, 2005, 08:08, Bill McCarthy wrote: I've added the following code to the top of my reply template: %ModifyOnce(CC)%- %SetPattRegExp=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %if:%RegExpMatch='%CC'::%- %CC='List Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]' When I reply to all however, the list address is added even if it was already there. What am I doing wrong here? I do not know about your template, but I do know this sometimes happens to me without any address related templates at all. It happens sometimes but not all the time. I suppose there is a pattern, although I have not found it yet. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [OTFE]Attachment lost if original files are deleted
On Monday, December 27, 2004, 16:31, Ming Chang wrote: The attachments are imported to message base only when I uncheck the bind attachments only while sending out mails option. That is exactly what that option is there for, this is not a bug. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New Ticker Problem
On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 10:53, Stuart Hemming wrote: Well, as we're all showing our tickers 8-) mine's set to display messages up to 30 minutes old and to show=auto. If the number of messages to be shown reaches zero purely on a time basis the ticker doesn't hide until I move focus between folders. I can confirm it does not hide. I have not tried switching folders though, I usually just let it be. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Copying filters between incoming and outgoing does not change conditions like before
Copying an OFS filter with condition sender contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the incoming to the outgoing section used to change the sender condition to recipient. With the NFS this does not happen. Is this a good or a bad thing? The new behaviour is more logical, if I do copy a filter, an exact copy should be created, but on the other hand, I *always* wants to change this condition when copying between incoming and outgoing filters. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.8 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Freading
On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 21:57, Tony Boom wrote: I'm still viewing this list by threading and the threads are expanded all the time. I just set my TBOT foder to threading but all the threads are collapsed all the time. How do I set them the same as this folder, open all the time? Edit your view mode and make sure Expand all threads are ticked. Simple as that. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?
On Monday, November 15, 2004, 23:47, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: In my opinion, lines of text creating message body should end with CRLF pairs. The Bat! probably takes into account each two last characters of each line and assumes that they are CRLF. However, in last line it is not true, because in this specific message it ends with 'ME'. Such strict behaviour is not needed here, because The Bat! should test the last character pair either before displaying or converting. So, this is a bug :-( Thanks for answering, both to you Zygmunt and to Mark Partous. I've filed a bug report at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4059 -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?
On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, 10:38, Roelof Otten wrote: I guess it might stand to reason that all messages end with CR/LF, because during the smtp protocol everything sent to the server after the DATA command has been issued is considered as the message until a dot on a separate line is encountered. In order to get that dot on a separate line, the last line of the message should end with CR/LF Sounds reasonable. If the only way to end up with a truncated message is to do as I did, import a erroneous message, then maybe we should not bother with this anymore. I would appreciate if you added this to the BT item I referred to earlier. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd as standalone?
On Thursday, November 11, 2004, 09:31, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a standalone editor? I often find myself opening up a new message just to use MicroEd to format or compile text. I would love having MicroEd as my default editor, but as long as there is no standalone version... Still no words from Ritlabs.. I filed a wish, please add your notes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4060 -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
