Re: 10.5
Hello MAU, On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:15:08 +0200 GMT (05/10/2023, 16:15 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: >> We have released The Bat! v10.5. > I have just upgraded from the Help/Check for updates option. > I got an error when I re-started TB. > Help/About still shows 10.4.0.1, but if I click Check for updated > again, It says I am up to date. > My signature also shows wrong version. Confirmed on my work laptop. I am back home now. On this PC (where I also run beta versions), I got the pop-up saying a new version is available, but the installation failed. I guess the buggy new version has been taken off the server? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.4.0.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5
Hello MAU, On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 19:00:03 +0200 GMT (07/10/2023, 00:00 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: >> On this work laptop (I am currently travelling), I received the >> pop-up stating that a new release version is available. So I clicked >> on "update", it downloaded and apparently installed the new version. >> As you can see in my sig, it still shows the old version. Seeing the >> bugs being reported here, I am quite happy that I am still with the >> old version, but it doesn't seem normal. > I reported this yesterday in my > Have you tried selecting Help/Check for updates to see if it tells you > that you are up to date? Maybe you are not using the old version. True, it says "up to date". -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.4.0.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.11 / TB! and Outlook365
Hello Stefan, On Sun, 7 May 2023 22:57:01 +0300 GMT (08/05/2023, 02:57 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > >> Will we be able to sync with Microsoft 365 Exchange? > > Yes, next iteration should allow us to sync with outlook365 accounts. By "sync", do you mean we can check our email on Outlook365 with TheBat! again? That would be great. I now always have to check my university email by webmail. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.11 Font change in HTML editor
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 1 May 2023 19:52:09 +0300 GMT (01/05/2023, 23:52 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 10.3.3.11 is now available: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-3-3-11.msi Up & Running. Any work on the changing font type in the HTML editor? https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 It was still happening in the previous version. I'll report back. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.11 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment preview
Hello TBBETA, Found it: Workspace / Attached Files / [ ] Attachment Auto-Preview (take the tickmark off) On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:02:28 +0700 GMT (28/03/2023, 08:02 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > Hi TBBETA, > The attachment preview is a nice feature and has its advantage in some > circumstances. > However, in other (most) situations, I want to open the attachment (for > example a PDF or Excel file) in the associated app, not in the preview. The > moment I click on the attachment, TB! changes focus from the message to the > attachment preview. This is annoying, as I want to see the message on one > screen, and the relating attachment on the other. There is no sense in > viewing preview and the full attachment at the same time. > How do I turn this automatic switching to the preview tab off? It annoyingly > interrupts my workflow, as I always have to click back to the HTML tab. > -- > Cheers, > Thomas. > Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit) > under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 > > 'Using TBBETA' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment preview
Hi TBBETA, The attachment preview is a nice feature and has its advantage in some circumstances. However, in other (most) situations, I want to open the attachment (for example a PDF or Excel file) in the associated app, not in the preview. The moment I click on the attachment, TB! changes focus from the message to the attachment preview. This is annoying, as I want to see the message on one screen, and the relating attachment on the other. There is no sense in viewing preview and the full attachment at the same time. How do I turn this automatic switching to the preview tab off? It annoyingly interrupts my workflow, as I always have to click back to the HTML tab. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.4 / Font changes in HTML editor
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 10:31:11 +0700 GMT (17/03/2023, 10:31 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: >> Versions without auto-update: >> 64-bit >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-3-3-4.msi > U&R >> What's new: >> [-] The font size is now preserved when replying to an HTML-message > My current pet peeve. Thanks! I will test it over the next days and weeks and > will report if any font change happens again. Sorry, not fixed. Steps to reproduce: Reply to an email that uses a different font from our settings for replies. I have set this email to Calibri 11 now. My standard font is Times New romand 1. Start replying. Calibri 11 will be used. Hinter a few times to create empty lines. Go up with the mouse to start writing in one of the empty lines. Font has changes to Times New Roman 10. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.4 Broken attachment names
Hello Gwen, On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 10:22:23 +0100 GMT (20/03/2023, 16:22 +0700 GMT), Gwen wrote: >>> Bug reported: >>> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2233 >> I have download the .eml in your bug report and see an empty email >> with an part.att attachment. Opening that attachment in Notepad shows HTML >> code. > The content of attachment is not relevant, it is the filename > which The Bat! can not display, but other mail clients like > Thunderbird or Vivaldi Mail can. Oh, I see. Different issue. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.4 Broken attachment names
Hello Gwen, On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 19:33:50 +0100 GMT (20/03/2023, 01:33 +0700 GMT), Gwen wrote: > Seems The Bat! can not handle continuation of attachment filenames in > MIME headers. > I think, that is a violation of a RFC standard, > ⇒ https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2184#section-3 > Bug reported: > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2233 I have download the .eml in your bug report and see an empty email with an part.att attachment. Opening that attachment in Notepad shows HTML code. I have seen HTML emails in which some of the text (usually, the reply) is displayed, and the signature and previous messages are in a .html attachment. Is that related? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.4 / Font changes in HTML editor
Hello Alexander, On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:41:12 +0200 GMT (15/03/2023, 20:41 +0700 GMT), Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10.3.3.4 is out there: > Versions without auto-update: > 64-bit > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-3-3-4.msi U&R > What's new: > [-] The font size is now preserved when replying to an HTML-message My current pet peeve. Thanks! I will test it over the next days and weeks and will report if any font change happens again. > Have fun! Will do! -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.3.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection center
Hello Ira, On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:05:45 -0800 GMT (06/01/2023, 08:05 +0700 GMT), Ira wrote: >>> You can see the log by clicking the status bar in the main window. Thomas>> And you can toggle the status bar on/off with shift-ctrl-L. > Though I question the usefulness of the connection center at all then. The > transactions happen so fast there is no possibility to see anything and there > is no reason to not just limit the connection center view to the last event > or set of events or the last 1000 lines or something like that. There is no > reason the clear that log and every reason not to. I didn't know clicking on > the status bar would bring that up. I've probably only cared about that log a > couple of time in the many years I've been using The Bat, rarely enough I > would never remember a secret button like that. You can hide it if you want. It is very useful for me. > So as soon as I finished sending this message I clicked on the status bar and > it brought up an empty log. As I spend most of my time looking at virtual > mailboxes, I don't usually see a status bar with any information and at some > level was not even aware it existed. Funny, I have many lines of record there, and have also posted them here when I had a question. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection center
Hello Jernej, On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:57:31 +0100 GMT (06/01/2023, 02:57 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Thursday, January 5, 2023, 20:14:50, Ira wrote: >> I was guessing at an email address for a company and i failed. I brought up >> the connection center so I could see what the errors were but for some >> reason the connection center window is cleared at the end of the transaction >> instead of before starting the next one so it's impossible to see what went >> wrong. Could that be changed so that the results of the last attempt can be >> reviewed? > You can see the log by clicking the status bar in the main window. And you can toggle the status bar on/off with shift-ctrl-L. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19045 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
Hello Thomas, On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 05:58:24 +0700 GMT (27/10/2022, 05:58 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > Hello Jernej, > On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:53:20 +0200 GMT (26/10/2022, 21:53 +0700 GMT), > Jernej Simončič wrote: >>> Noted. How to activate OAuth 2.0 in TheBat!? I don't see that under Account >>> / Properties / Transport / Receive / Authentication. >> If you previously wasn't connected to 365 with OAuth, you have to delete and >> recreate the account. This is a known workaround for programs that support >> OAuth, but not upgrade from plain to OAuth. > Oh, I see. Thanks, I will recreate the account and report back. No, it didn't work. OAUTH is still greyed out. when created this email based on Microsoft. I just created a new account at Google, and OAUTH was not greyed out. So it must be something how TB! interacts with MS. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Creating a new account based on Google: No POP3 option in TB! anymore
Hi TBBETA, I just created a new account based on Google, and the server has two options: POP and IMAP. I want to use POP (that's my preference, I don't want to discuss this), but it defaulted to IMAP in TB!. I tried a couple of times, but TB! does not even ask me how to set up the incoming server. I have other Google accounts with which I use POP, so it was possile in the past. What is going on? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.3.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:53:20 +0200 GMT (26/10/2022, 21:53 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: >> Noted. How to activate OAuth 2.0 in TheBat!? I don't see that under Account >> / Properties / Transport / Receive / Authentication. > If you previously wasn't connected to 365 with OAuth, you have to delete and > recreate the account. This is a known workaround for programs that support > OAuth, but not upgrade from plain to OAuth. Oh, I see. Thanks, I will recreate the account and report back. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
Hello jb, On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 13:51:23 +0100 GMT (26/10/2022, 19:51 +0700 GMT), jb_lists...@trink.co.uk wrote: >> Before I recreate the email account to be an IMAP account, I would like to >> hear what Ritlabs says about this issue. :-) > That is probably sensible! I tested the reverse and set up a new POP3 account > to the using a temporary email on office365.com server and the OAUTH option > was greyed out. When I created one with IMAP enabled, the OAUTH option > appeared (in fact, it prompted me to enter my login credentials and 2FA as > part of the account setup process, so it must have automatically selected > OAUTH). However, YMMV. Oh, 2FA? I don't want or need this for my unversity email. Nothing secret there, not even students' grades. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
Hello jb, On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 10:58:46 +0100 GMT (26/10/2022, 16:58 +0700 GMT), jb_lists...@trink.co.uk wrote: >> Thanks for the tip. However, OAUTH (using web browser) is greyed out over >> here. > Strange. I don't know what would cause it to be greyed out. I am using IMAP > and I see you are using POP, so would that be the reason? > My receive settings are: IMAP outlook.office365.com Secure to Dedicated Port > (TLS) 993 Before I recreate the email account to be an IMAP account, I would like to hear what Ritlabs says about this issue. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
Hello jb, On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 09:04:29 +0100 GMT (26/10/2022, 15:04 +0700 GMT), jb_lists...@trink.co.uk wrote: > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, 1:10:20 AM, Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: >> Noted. How to activate OAuth 2.0 in TheBat!? I don't see that under Account >> / Properties / Transport / Receive / Authentication. > I have had problems connecting to an Outlook365 account since yesterday (25th > October), with repeated Login Failed messages. I have now turned on OAUTH > (using Web Browser), through Account Properties | Transport | Receive Mail | > Authentication, which appears to be working at the moment. Thanks for the tip. However, OAUTH (using web browser) is greyed out over here. > I will have to see how often I need to re-authenticate. I don't want to have > to start using web mail for this account, or, even worse, Outlook. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
Hello Zann, On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 03:44:23 -0700 GMT (25/10/2022, 17:44 +0700 GMT), Zann wrote: >> ... they told me that MS does not support POP or IMAP any more "for security >> reasons" ... > You are not alone. It seems the culprit is OAuth 2.0 [1], other email clients > are affected too [2,3]. > [1] > https://devblogs.microsoft.com/microsoft365dev/end-of-support-for-basic-authentication-access-to-exchange-online-apis-for-office-365-customers/ Noted. How to activate OAuth 2.0 in TheBat!? I don't see that under Account / Properties / Transport / Receive / Authentication. > [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699487 This seems to be USA, China and Germany. I am in Thailand. > [3] https://www.pmail.com/newsflash.htm This is about Gmail. I have no problems with Gmail. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
Dear Adrian, On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 12:48:44 +0200 GMT (25/10/2022, 17:48 +0700 GMT), Adrian wrote: > Probably switching to oauth is enough. IMAP/POP can be disabled for an > organization when using Exchange Online though - if that's the case I'd reach > out to IT and see if they really want to disable it or maybe just weren't > awareof people using IMAP clients... > BTW, when testing TB's OAuth support recently I noticed that TB DOES NOT seem > to > use refresh tokens: > Once my SSO session (Exchange Online at my workplace) expires, I have to go > through SSO again - which is completely terrible because the browser is > embedded > in TB instead of using one of the oauth flows where the regular browser is > used. > This is NOT a restriction from our ExO configuration - I can get a refresh > token > and use it for a long time just fine. It's just that TB doesn't seem to make > use > of it... And in fact this would completely rule out TB with OAuth for me, > because > having to do a new SSO login with 2FA every day just for emails? Hell no! How do I activate this in TB!? Also, our IT is useless. So, if there is a setting they have change, is there a guidance on the web somewhere? >> Hi Thomas, >>> ... they told me that MS does not support POP or IMAP any more "for >>> security reasons" ... >> You are not alone. It seems the culprit is OAuth 2.0 [1], other email >> clients are affected too [2,3]. >> -Z. >> [1] >> https://devblogs.microsoft.com/microsoft365dev/end-of-support-for-basic-authentication-access-to-exchange-online-apis-for-office-365-customers/ >> [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699487 >> [3] https://www.pmail.com/newsflash.htm -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.2 HTML editor Access Violation
Hello TBBETA, I often receive this AV when using the PureHTML editor: When I click it away, it comes up again. The trick is to hit "enter" to make it dgo away, and then save the message as draft into Outbox with the mouse with the otehr hand. Can't do both with the mouse, because I am not fast enough. Then I can re-open it from the Outbox and continue editing. Happens several times a day. I have not detected a pattern yet. Does anybody see the same? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1 update failed
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:11:38 +0700 GMT (12/10/2022, 16:11 +0700 GMT), Thomas ML wrote: >> Wednesday, October 12, 2022 >> Thanks for your email. I've put my answers below. >> Wednesday, October 12, 2022, 4:18:15 AM, you wrote: >>> Most probably, you have a connection error - do they happen often in other >>> apps? I guess we were too optimistic about those simple tasks, so more work >>> error reporting needs to be done. >>> Please try to redownload the update. >> I don't use the update feature in The Bat. >> >> Instead, I have found if you go to the Rit Labs website and download the >> update, that works. > Thanks for the practical workaround. However, this is the beta list in which > we report bugs so that they can be fixed. > >> I have noticed that Windows flags the msi file as a risk. I have to force >> acceptance of the file in order to run it for the update. > Do you mean Windows Defender? I use avast! instead. Maybe avast! blocked it... No, it wasn't avast. Turned it off before clicking on "update", same result. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.2.1 update failed
Hello Tbbeta, I received another pop-up stating that a new version is available, and this happened: Note: I did not see any announcement on this list about 10.2.1. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.2 no-update
Hello TBBETA, I received a big pop-up this morning that 10.2 is available, and there was also a changelog and an "update now" (or so) buttom. Did that, and the update just hung forever: No activity in the task manager: I could only kill it by task manager, and the update never took place. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 Position in task bar
Hello Jernej, On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 08:53:18 +0200 GMT (26/08/2022, 13:53 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: >> TB! acts differently: When opening from the square taskbar icon, the wider >> icon (which indiucated the program is open) will be added to the right. So >> the small square icon stays were it is, and I have an additional wide icon >> to the right. > Unpin your original icon, then pin running The Bat, and this should be solved. Yes, this did the trick! Thanks for the workaround. I still consider it a bug, as we cannot expect unsuspecting users to go through this process. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 HTML editor
Hello TBBETA, On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 06:18:56 +0700 GMT (16/08/2022, 06:18 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: >> [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) > So far so good. ;-) I haven't had a jump of cursor or sudden change of fonts > yet. Let me check for more days before I add a note to the bug reports. I just had a change of font. Using the HTML editor a lot, this was only the second time. I cannot put my finger on any reason yet, but maybe someone else has experienced the same. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 Position in task bar
Hello TBBETA, On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 06:07:27 +0700 GMT (18/08/2022, 06:07 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi >> I like TB! to be the left-most open app in the task bar. It now always opens >> to be the right-most one. I can move it to the left, but next time I open >> TB!, it moves to the very right again. It does not remember the assigned >> position any more. Slightly annoying. > Is anybody else experiencing this? OK, here is the thing: All other programs when opened from the task bar icon will be present at the same position, meaning the sqaure icon is just being replaced with a wider icon. TB! acts differently: When opening from the square taskbar icon, the wider icon (which indiucated the program is open) will be added to the right. So the small square icon stays were it is, and I have an additional wide icon to the right. I think this is some instrucution to Win10 within TB!'s code: "add to right of taskbar" instead of "use existing icon". I find this annoying. Any confirmations? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 Position in task bar
Hello Thomas, On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 06:21:54 +0700 GMT (16/08/2022, 06:21 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > Hello Stefan, > On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 22:53:55 +0300 GMT (09/08/2022, 02:53 +0700 GMT), > Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi > I like TB! to be the left-most open app in the task bar. It now always opens > to be the right-most one. I can move it to the left, but next time I open > TB!, it moves to the very right again. It does not remember the assigned > position any more. Slightly annoying. Is anybody else experiencing this? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 HTML editor
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 22:53:55 +0300 GMT (09/08/2022, 02:53 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Dear All, > Version 10.1.0.2 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi > Here is a short list of changes: > [+] RichText editor as a simpler to use HTML editor > [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) > [*] Update CEF to v103 > [*] Crop function in the HTML editor moved to a dialog window So far so good. ;-) I haven't had a jump of cursor or sudden change of fonts yet. Let me check for more days before I add a note to the bug reports. > RichText is reincarnation of the older HTML editor which is based on the > RichView component, we decided to make it available again as the current HTML > editor (added in v9 cycle) could be a pain to handle sometimes :) I'll try that later. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 Position in task bar
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 22:53:55 +0300 GMT (09/08/2022, 02:53 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi I like TB! to be the left-most open app in the task bar. It now always opens to be the right-most one. I can move it to the left, but next time I open TB!, it moves to the very right again. It does not remember the assigned position any more. Slightly annoying. I like the new icon! -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2
Hello Jernej, On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 13:17:59 +0200 GMT (13/08/2022, 18:17 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: >> Happy to try this! However, what is the difference between the first set of >> files and the "nau" files? > First set is the auto-updating version, nau is the non-auto-updating version > (same type of install as pre-v10 TB). Thanks. NAU it is. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 21:11:21 +0300 GMT (09/08/2022, 01:11 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Dear All, > Version 10.1.0.2 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/thebat_32_10-1-0-2.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-2.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_32_10-1-0-2.msi > Here is a short list of changes: > [+] RichText editor as a simpler to use HTML editor > [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) > [*] Update CEF to v103 > [*] Crop function in the HTML editor moved to a dialog window > RichText is reincarnation of the older HTML editor which is based on the > RichView component, we decided to make it available again as the current HTML > editor (added in v9 cycle) could be a pain to handle sometimes :) Happy to try this! However, what is the difference between the first set of files and the "nau" files? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is up with TB's memory management?
Hello Adrian, On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 10:26:03 +0200 GMT (08/08/2022, 15:26 +0700 GMT), Adrian wrote: [...] > I'm a very technical person (software dev + working in IT), but I typically > don't do development on Windows so my Windows-specific debugging skills are > limited (on Linux I'd just run it in gdb). However, if there is any (hidden) > setting to make TB generate full stack traces when memory-related errors > happen, > I'd be more than happy to share them. If there's no setting and you can > provide > me with a "debug build" that has more verbose error information, that'd be > great > as well of course. Check out whether the file exceptions.log will help. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail SMTP
Hello Jay, On Mon, 9 May 2022 15:09:47 +0300 GMT (09/05/2022, 19:09 +0700 GMT), Jay Walker wrote: > Hi all > On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jay Walker wrote: >> Hi all, >> On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 5:34 PM Jay Walker wrote: >>> Until now I've used Gmail with "less secure apps", and that worked fine for >>> me. Now, under the gun so to speak, I have disabled "less secure apps" and >>> set up OAUTH authentication. And this works fine for me when checking my >>> mail (POP3). >> Correction. The POP3 only seems to work. But even that does not work, >> because no messages are ever retrieved. > Problem solved. Forget I asked... not that anyone seemed to care. :) We care. At least, I do. However, I could not replicate your problem, I have mo problem using Gmail. Let's hope it stays that way after 30 May. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:59:41 +0300 GMT (28/04/2022, 18:59 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10 is now released and is available for download from > https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php Good to hear! > Here is a summary of changes since v9.5.1 [...] > We are continuing development and here are the major things we plan to focus > on next few months: > - HTML editor improvements This is the only problem I have with v9x. I am looking forward to testing this. > - we also think of getting back the previous (RTF based) HTML editor as an > option As an option, OK. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 8
Hello Stefan, On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 20:52:44 +0300 GMT (18/04/2022, 00:52 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Hello All, > v10 beta 8 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/10 > Here's a short list of changes: Has the HTML editor being fixed? It is really annoying to have to manually set the font back to what is was before the editor decided to just change the font at random for a paragraph. https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OD: v10 beta 6
Hello Alex, On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:49:25 +0300 GMT (04/04/2022, 17:49 +0700 GMT), Alex Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> Confirmed, Ritlabs please fix this asap. I use my phone. > We're not your internet provider so we cannot fix your internet connection, > sorry :) If off-line work is not possible with TB!v10, it is not a viable software for me. I often work offline and create or reply to emails, and hope to have internet connection later on to send these emails out, when in countries like Myanmar. I use a POP-clientm for the very reason that webmail is not an option in those countries: I would have access to email only when online. Sorry, this is an absolute show-stopper for me. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font changes in HTML editor
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:51:16 +0700 GMT (19/03/2022, 08:51 +0700 GMT), Thomas ML wrote: >>> This is not a new bug in v10. I have had this since the new HTML editor was >>> introduced. >> And yet from the lack of interest in acknowledging or trying to fix the >> problem it would seem they forgot about it. So as it's the only bug that >> really bothers me and half the point of the program is writing and sending >> emails, I thought I'd remind them yet again that it's still broken. > Kindly add a Note to the bug report. This will make it come to the top again > in their list. Have the sudden font changes in the HTML editor been addressed in the latest beta? https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 Beta 1
Hello Gunivortus, On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 17:26:33 +0100 GMT (19/02/2022, 23:26 +0700 GMT), Gunivortus Goos wrote: > I Registered at the The Bat site and downloaded the v10. > However, I hesitate to install it ... > > 1. The Bat is running in RL here and bigger parts of my functioning as an > author is depending on reliable mail (contact with editors, exchanging of > articles and book chapters to be processed by editor and proofreaders, and > more). > I am not convinced yet that V10 is reliable and keep reading here for > confirmations and problems solved. I install betas only on my home computer, never on my work computer. That's because beta versions are beta versions. > 2. Without a functioning Antispamsniper, I get much too much spam to handle > manually. OK. I use seerver-side anti-spam so I don't have this problem. > 3. Generally, I do not like it at all to have a forced open channel to a The > Bat server that cannot be deactivated. It should be for 'future plans', that > are not explained further. And I totally agree with this. This is a no-no. Furthermore, I read that he have to use the "correct" email address, so Ritlabs is now telling us which email address to use. I bought two licences, one for work (only release verions) and one for home (also for betas), but I use about 10 email addresses at home. > I consider that too risky. So I prefer to wait until I read here more > trustful clarification. Looking for the explanation what the 6x HTTP queries to the Ritlabs server is all about, too. Only for beta testers, or for everyone who wants to run TB!? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line breaks in headers are not properly handled
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 15:23:52 +0200 GMT (15/11/2021, 20:23 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> I have the feeling it's our ancient Exchange 2010 (!) that's adding those >> spurious line breaks. > Yeah, it looks like the sweet pair of Outlook + Exchange make wonders > together :-) It's a rare problem, but I agree we need to sanitize address > fields in a more friendly manner. > No need for an entire message as I have all the info I need. Now, I'm waiting > for Thomas Fernandez input as he has somewhat different issue but also about > sanitizing the headers... Already sent and yes, "sanitising" sounds like the cure for this! > Thanks again, please stay tuned! :-) Thanks! -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.5 Halloween Edition (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line breaks in headers are not properly handled
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:04:35 +0200 GMT (15/11/2021, 18:04 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Hello Adrian, >> sorry for posting where it probably doesn't belong, but this annoying bug is >> affecting me nearly daily due to some rather long names at work, and it seems >> like nobody is reading the bug tracker... > Thank you for reporting the problem! However, we need some material to work > with. I mean - examples and screen shots should be attached, otherwise we > might be unable to reproduce the bug. I will send you a screenshot by PM, as this happens with certan company emails. Just happened again today. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.5 Halloween Edition (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Line breaks in headers are not properly handled
Hello Adrian, On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 11:24:30 +0100 GMT (15/11/2021, 17:24 +0700 GMT), Adrian wrote: > sorry for posting where it probably doesn't belong, but this annoying bug is > affecting me nearly daily due to some rather long names at work, and it seems > like nobody is reading the bug tracker... > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2115 [...] Confirmed, note added. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.5 Halloween Edition (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment icons for pictures missing
Hello TBBETA, I have set Workspace / Attached files to small icons at the bottom. I want this, because it is easy for me to save the atttachments. I am not seeing any icons any more for pictures, only tabs: PDF, XLS and other files will be shown in the pane, but not .jpg or .png files. This started with 9.4.4, I think. Am I missing something? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.4.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Replies to HTML messages freezing TB!
Hello TBBETA, This is a problem which I have had with many version, even before the new HTML engine. When I hit reply on some HTML messages, TB! freezes for a couple of seconds. This is annoying an interrupts the work flow. I have now noticed that the problem is that the Disk usage, as measured by the task manager, increases. For some reason, there are many many disk accesses. Can anybody confirm this? - I will send an offending message to Stefan by PM, as it contains company information. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19042 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html mode - Font change
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:18:14 +0700 GMT (22-Jul-21, 10:18 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Gunivortus, > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:37:29 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 0:37 +0700 GMT), > Gunivortus Goos wrote: >> Hello, >> This test message is written while in TB's footer bar >> it is set to: >> Dutch+English (American)+German HTML Latin 9 (IS). >> After the dot of the previous sentence I pressed, as usual, ENTER for >> a carreage return. All of a sudden the font size had changed from >> Arial 14 to Arial 11. >> >> Also inserting some text by using the paste option of the right-mouse menu >> failed. I had to do it by the keyboard commands ctrl-C and ctrl-V. >> Inserting the same in Windows editor worked with the mouse menu. > I understand this is your reply to mid:681002331.20210708103...@gmx.net > > Please add a note to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 "Font change in > HTML emails" Just happened again with 9.4.3.4. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.3.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to manually trigger external image download?
Hello Adrian, Peter and Miroslav, On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 16:34:41 +0200 GMT (14-Aug-21, 21:34 +0700 GMT), Miroslav Florensen wrote: >> I have exactly the same problem and asked for assistance 7 days >> ago with no answer ... > 19 days earlier... > » msgid:487014050.20210728075...@gmx.de > https://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg115063.html I cannot reproduce that, as I get the botton on the right of the email's header pane. Please check Tools / Image Download Manager / Rules / Download Mode. Here it is set to Explicitely Allowed. I just tried for the fun of it to set it to Manually, and then the Image Download Manager disappered from the email header. By the way, I don't think it should disappear. If the user choosen to manually download, he should be given the botton to do that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.3.3
Hello Stefan, On Sun, 8 Aug 2021 19:39:30 +0300 GMT (08-Aug-21, 23:39 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.3.3-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [+] Quick rule creation for Image Dowload Manager I love it! > [*] Reduce flicker when downloading images explicitly I have not experienced any flicker so far. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4.3 Cannot send to TBBETA
Hello Thomas, On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 15:25:40 +0700 GMT (10-Aug-21, 15:25 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > Hello Thomas, > On Sat, 7 Aug 2021 11:20:43 +0700 GMT (07-Aug-21, 11:20 +0700 GMT), > Thomas Fernandez wrote: >>> I cannot send to this list with 9.4.3.1: >>> Going back to 9.4.2.12 for now. >> Same problem in 9.4.3.2. > If this message reaches the list, the problem is solved. The solution was to move this folder from one email account to another. So, there is some problem with the other email account, I will try to find out what it may be. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4.3 Cannot send to TBBETA
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 7 Aug 2021 11:20:43 +0700 GMT (07-Aug-21, 11:20 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> I cannot send to this list with 9.4.3.1: >> Going back to 9.4.2.12 for now. > Same problem in 9.4.3.2. If this message reaches the list, the problem is solved. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4.3 Cannot send to TBBETA
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 7 Aug 2021 11:03:12 +0700 GMT (07-Aug-21, 11:03 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Stefan, > On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 17:33:07 +0300 GMT (05-Aug-21, 21:33 +0700 GMT), > Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_9-4-3.msi > I cannot send to this list with 9.4.3.1: > 07-Aug-21, 10:58:44: FETCH - TLS handshake complete > 07-Aug-21, 10:58:44: SEND - connected to SMTP server > !07-Aug-21, 10:58:44: SEND - Connect failed. Connection timed out > 07-Aug-21, 10:58:44: FETCH - connected to POP3 server > 07-Aug-21, 10:58:45: FETCH - authenticated (plain) > !07-Aug-21, 10:58:45: SEND - Cancel requested by operator - 0 of 1 messages > sent > 07-Aug-21, 10:58:47: FETCH - 15529 messages in the mailbox, 0 new > 07-Aug-21, 10:58:47: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received > I tried many times, also restarted my computer, with the same result. The > connection either times out after less than a second (I hear the error > sound), or something in TB! gives instruction to cancel the message. I also > deleted the message from Outbox and create a new reply, with the same result. > I can send messages to my other GMX account tough. Weird. > Going back to 9.4.2.12 for now. Same problem in 9.4.3.2. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.12 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4.3 Cannot send to TBBETA
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 17:33:07 +0300 GMT (05-Aug-21, 21:33 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_9-4-3.msi I cannot send to this list with 9.4.3.1: 07-Aug-21, 10:58:44: FETCH - TLS handshake complete 07-Aug-21, 10:58:44: SEND - connected to SMTP server !07-Aug-21, 10:58:44: SEND - Connect failed. Connection timed out 07-Aug-21, 10:58:44: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 07-Aug-21, 10:58:45: FETCH - authenticated (plain) !07-Aug-21, 10:58:45: SEND - Cancel requested by operator - 0 of 1 messages sent 07-Aug-21, 10:58:47: FETCH - 15529 messages in the mailbox, 0 new 07-Aug-21, 10:58:47: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received I tried many times, also restarted my computer, with the same result. The connection either times out after less than a second (I hear the error sound), or something in TB! gives instruction to cancel the message. I also deleted the message from Outbox and create a new reply, with the same result. I can send messages to my other GMX account tough. Weird. Going back to 9.4.2.12 for now. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.12 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Annoying pop-up window
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:07:20 +0700 GMT (31-Jul-21, 18:07 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> I have one email account which is really a GSuite account. This means, most >> of the time there is no problem but every so often, Google does not let me >> check new mails with POP. TB! will then show a pop-up window, asking me to >> key in the password (apparently, Google said it was wrong) and whether I >> want to update the account data. >> No problem with that. The problem is that it is system nodal (I think this >> is the technical term), meaning that it will be on top of all other windows >> in my Win10. I maybe working on a Word file. So, I click on "cancel" and >> what happens is that the Windows focus switches to TB!, and that is really >> interruptive and breaks my stream of work. >> This is annoying. I want the focus to stay in the Windows app I am currently >> using and not go to TB! after I click "cancel". Preferrably, I don't even >> want the pop-up to show at all until I switch to TB! by myself. >> Any supporters for this wish? > Still present in 9.4.2.11. > TB! is running in the background and I am working on other stuff, for which I > need to concentrate. Every now and then, this GSuite email makes problems, I > get a system-modal pop-up window. Highly interruptive. On top of that, when I > click it away, I am moved away from my work and into TB!. > Is the only way to get work done to close TB! when I am working? > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2152 Still happening in 9.4.2.12. Since it is highly interruptive rather than just annoying, I call it a bug now rather than a wish. It is obviously a Google problem, and at next attempt to checking the mail, it might work. So there is absolutely no need to ask me to change the password. It is in the most rate circumstances that a passport needs to be changed in TB!, so there is absolutely no need to make this pop-up window system modal. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.12 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:47:48 + GMT (31-Jul-21, 8:33 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello MAU, > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:22:20 +0200 GMT (31-Jul-21, 1:22 +0700 GMT), > MAU wrote: >>> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we >>> used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload >>> pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice >>> to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL". >> And which is "this URL"?. A single message may have more than just one >> URL. > I mean the sender. We used to have an menu item for that when clicking on the > IDM in the past. I now have choicxes, such as "Download images for this message" and "Download images" (which I assume means all images for all messages). So to be precise, my suggestion is to add a choice "Always download images from this sender". And then this sender will be added to the IDM. I htink this is how it worked in the past. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.11 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Annoying pop-up window
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 09:39:49 +0700 GMT (11-Jul-21, 9:39 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello TBBETA, > I have one email account which is really a GSuite account. This means, most > of the time there is no problem but every so often, Google does not let me > check new mails with POP. TB! will then show a pop-up window, asking me to > key in the password (apparently, Google said it was wrong) and whether I want > to update the account data. > No problem with that. The problem is that it is system nodal (I think this is > the technical term), meaning that it will be on top of all other windows in > my Win10. I maybe working on a Word file. So, I click on "cancel" and what > happens is that the Windows focus switches to TB!, and that is really > interruptive and breaks my stream of work. > This is annoying. I want the focus to stay in the Windows app I am currently > using and not go to TB! after I click "cancel". Preferrably, I don't even > want the pop-up to show at all until I switch to TB! by myself. > Any supporters for this wish? Still present in 9.4.2.11. TB! is running in the background and I am working on other stuff, for which I need to concentrate. Every now and then, this GSuite email makes problems, I get a system-modal pop-up window. Highly interruptive. On top of that, when I click it away, I am moved away from my work and into TB!. Is the only way to get work done to close TB! when I am working? https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2152 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.11 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Jumping cursor (was: Re: 9.4.2.10)
Hello Stefan,
I am using 9.4.2.11 but did not have time to check these chagnes earlier.
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:13:46 +0300 GMT (30-Jul-21, 1:13 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:
> Here is a short list of changes:
I placed the cursor behind the last word in the next line ("page") and it ended
up above that line.
Now I placed the cursor before the first character in the second line ("[*]")
and it also ended up above the quoted text.
> [+] The "Clear Cache" button and the current cache size information at the
> HTML Viewer settings page
> [*] Better URL detection and wrapping in the HTML editor
Checking: mid:1455210602.20210729211...@ritlabs.com
=> Not fixed. (I actually placed the cursor behind the last work ("editor")
and ended up with the cursor where it should be.)
> [-] Problems with words deletion/replacemet in HTML editor
Not sure what you mean. Can you advise the BT number?
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
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Re: HTML media
Hello MAU, On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:22:20 +0200 GMT (31-Jul-21, 1:22 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: >> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we >> used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload >> pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice >> to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL". > And which is "this URL"?. A single message may have more than just one > URL. I mean the sender. We used to have an menu item for that when clicking on the IDM in the past. >> Having to copy the URL and paste it manually into Tools / Image >> Download Manager / Create Rule and then paste it, is not efficient. > You don't need to copy the URL and paste it. Just open the Image > Download Manager and on the Downloads tab select the URL you want to > create the rule for and click on Create Rule button. I didn't see anything like that just now. I saw a whole confusing list of URLs. When clicking on the tab Rules, I saw some email addresses that I had whitelisted earlier. Something like this I would expect, so that I just need to click OK. Or, as in the past, a menu item "Whitelist this sender" in addition to "Open IDM". Will make for increased work efficiency. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.11 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.11
Hello MAU, On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 22:20:03 +0200 GMT (31-Jul-21, 3:20 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.11-x64.7z > Up & running +1 >> Here is a short list of changes: >> >> [+] Drop-down menu to image download button (Beta issue) > But Image Download Manager still needs to be opened in order to create > a rule. +1. As a minimum, when the IDM opens, it should have the URL already inserted so that the user just clikcs OK. >> [-] Problem with replying to message with several addressees (Beta issue) > Corrected. Reply now works as expected. Confirm. That was a quick! -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.11 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 12:32:24 +0300 GMT (30-Jul-21, 16:32 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to >> have? > I think it's a good point :) Actually, we have some relatively fresh ideas > about image download management, we're going to come up with some in future > (I hope). I am looking forward to what is going to come! ;-) >> By the way, in the drop-down menu under Tools, there is an arrow missing >> after the words "Image Download Manager". > There was no arrow after "Image Download Manager", AFAIR - at least the menu > structure didn't change, we've just re-enabled the menu command and made it > visible. I mentioned this with consistency in mind. It's cosmetic only. All other menu items that do not directly create action when clicked on, but offer a choice or soemthing else to clock before an action is taken, have an arrow. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.10 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 09:57:17 +0300 GMT (30-Jul-21, 13:57 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> In Preferences - HTML Viewer - Download external Media, it is set to >> "Automatically for all sources". >> Nonetheless, both in older and new HTML mails, the pictures are not visible >> anymore. >> Yet, I'd like to have them in the mails to prevent me getting them for each >> mail separately. > Please open the "Tools | Image Download Manager" and look at the Rules page - > what do you see there as the "Filter Type"? (I guess, we should rename it). > Presumably, you have something like "Deny all" or "Deny unknown". How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to have? Right now, I have a button to decide to dwonload pictures of rthis message, and it would be good to have the choice to create the rule again, i.e. "always download images from this URL". Having to copy the URL and paste it manually into Tools / Image Download Manager / Create Rule and then paste it, is not efficient. By the way, in the drop-down menu under Tools, there is an arrow missing after the words "Image Download Manager". -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.10 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.10 Reply problem
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:13:46 +0300 GMT (30-Jul-21, 1:13 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.10-x64.7z I just hit "Reply" on a message that originally has many people in the TO field. Instead of just replying to the sender, in the TO field of the reply I see all people who were in the original TO field. The difference to "Reply to all" is only that in the latter, also the people in the CC field will be included. I went back one version to 9.4.2.9 and found the same behaviour. Confirmations? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.10 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.9 Image download manager
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 21:21:23 +0200 GMT (29-Jul-21, 2:21 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: >>> [+] Image download manager is now used for downloading images from external >>> resources >> Looks like it picked up existent rules (don't where from) that seem >> quite "ancient" to me. >> Anyone else observed this? > Yup, it picked up the rules I set up before the switch to CEF. Hm. Over here, each single HTML message requires me to click on the download icon. No rules at all. [Note: Context reinstated from MAU's message, to increase efficiency and not needing to go back to that message to read what this was about. PLease do not overdelete.] -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.9 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.9 Email addresses in HTML editor
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 14:56:43 +0200 GMT (28-Jul-21, 19:56 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 20:57:58, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.9-x64.7z > I noticed a bug — when pasting an e-mail address like > to HTML editor, The Bat makes the address into > URL, but doesn't include the mailto: prefix, making the URL useless. Confirmed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.9 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.9 Image downloader
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:57:06 +0200 GMT (28-Jul-21, 15:57 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 20:57:58, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> [+] Image download manager is now used for downloading images from external >> resources > Finally :) +1 :-) > Here's a wish to improve the Image download manager: > - have a tab that lists all image URLs in currently selected message, and > allow selecting URLs to download immediately, and also allow using the URL as > a template to create a rule > - when creating a rule, highlight image URLs in currently selected message I would find that too complicated, but I don't need to use it. All I ask for is what we had earlier: A choice of downloading images for this message only, or for all messages from this sender. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.9 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 - HTML editor - selecting text with Ctrl+Shift+Arrow makes multi-word jumps
Hello Viktor, On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 10:15:28 +0200 GMT (27-Jul-21, 15:15 +0700 GMT), Viktor Kabelac wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z > After playing with this version some more, I noticed one behavior that I'd > like to point out. > When editing an HTML message and selecting text "wordwise" using > Ctrl+Shift+Arrow (left/right), the editor sometimes selects one or two words > as expected and then starts to make jumps of several words, selecting random > large portions of the text - in both directions (not only in the direction I > wanted to select in but also "back" behind the caret). > The boundaries of the large selecting block seem to stay the same even if I > try to start selecting a different word, wich brings me to the idea that > possibly something in the HTML causes the stops. > It happens with a fresh mail written from scratch too - it only needs to be > HTML. Terxt editing is OK i this regard. > Has anyone experienced that behavior and possibly already created an issue > for it? Yes, I have experienced that. It's an expansion of the "jumping cursor syndrome": https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2125 Jumping cursor https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 Jumping cursor when replying inline to HTML messages I think they are all related. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 Forwarding HTML messages with national characters
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:15:26 +0300 GMT (22-Jul-21, 17:15 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> Not fixed. I just tried with a message in German: Reply is fine, Forward is >> HTML code. > Yep, confirmed :) It has something to do with changes in the template engine. Thanks, looking forward to the next beta. Sent by PM. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Thomas, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:11:29 +0700 GMT (22-Jul-21, 13:11 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Jernej, > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 07:49:32 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 12:49 +0700 GMT), > Jernej Simončič wrote: >> >>> HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: >>> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 >>> Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, >>> in which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it >>> correctly. >> Wikipedia has a nice explanation: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of >> using U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic >> wrapping). > I had to get back into the tread to see what this was about: Kindly do not > cut too much of the previous conversation that the context gets lost. Thanks. > > OK, thanks for the Wikipedia article. I experience the opposite: Hard line > breaks are inserted by teh HTML editor where none is wanted; the bug > mentioned by you in mid:43367910.20210719231...@eternallybored.org is still > present. > > For example in the paragraph above, I certainly did not insert an LF after > "OK," and I cannot get rid of it. In the viewer, after receiving this message back, there was no hard LF after "OK,". Now that means the editor and the viewer do not show the same. I clicked on the HTML icon, and there is indeed no hard LF. The editor is not WYSIWYG. Bug. I again see a hrd LF after '"OK,' but the second " is on the nexct line... weired. Also, in the viewer there are no soft line breaks, the lines in the incoming message just go on outside the screen and I have to scroll to read them. Bug. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Jernej, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 07:49:32 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 12:49 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > >> HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: >> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 >> Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in >> which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it >> correctly. > Wikipedia has a nice explanation: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of using > U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic wrapping). I had to get back into the tread to see what this was about: Kindly do not cut too much of the previous conversation that the context gets lost. Thanks. OK, thanks for the Wikipedia article. I experience the opposite: Hard line breaks are inserted by teh HTML editor where none is wanted; the bug mentioned by you in mid:43367910.20210719231...@eternallybored.org is still present. For example in the paragraph above, I certainly did not insert an LF after "OK," and I cannot get rid of it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 Forwarding HTML messages with national characters
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:30:30 +0300 GMT (21-Jul-21, 15:30 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] Forward of HTML messages was inserting HTML code Not fixed. I just tried with a message in German: Reply is fine, Forward is HTML code. I also mentioned earlier (mid:298798343.20210720175...@gmx.net) that is does not work with a message in Thai language. It does work with other messages in Thai language though. I can send the offending message and one that has no problems (neither for replying nor for forwarding) to you by PM if you like. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:30:30 +0300 GMT (21-Jul-21, 15:30 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] (#02144) Clicking internal links was not working Confirm fixed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html mode - Font change
Hello Gunivortus, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:37:29 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 0:37 +0700 GMT), Gunivortus Goos wrote: > Hello, > This test message is written while in TB's footer bar > it is set to: > Dutch+English (American)+German HTML Latin 9 (IS). > After the dot of the previous sentence I pressed, as usual, ENTER for > a carreage return. All of a sudden the font size had changed from > Arial 14 to Arial 11. > > Also inserting some text by using the paste option of the right-mouse menu > failed. I had to do it by the keyboard commands ctrl-C and ctrl-V. > Inserting the same in Windows editor worked with the mouse menu. > I understand this is your reply to mid:681002331.20210708103...@gmx.net Please add a note to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 "Font change in HTML emails" -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:17:42 +0200 GMT (21-Jul-21, 23:17 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:30:30, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z > HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it correctly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 HTML editor: Forwarded Messages
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 20:29:09 +0300 GMT (20-Jul-21, 0:29 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.6 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.6-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] Forwarding HTML messages with non-ASCII characters could be garbled Not fixed: This is supposed to be Thai language. In fact, the viewer displayed it correctly when I received the message from our university's library. I see the same when I want to reply to the message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.6 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
Hello Jernej, On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 12:37:31 +0200 GMT (20-Jul-21, 17:37 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 10:21:33, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> My editor window is full screen, and I have these hard LFs. Not always, mind >> you. > Looks like the actual problem is that TB is using non-breaking spaces instead > of regular spaces, which then results in weird (non)wrapping (look at the > source of the message, there's a ton of 's). Please create a bug report, I will add a note. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML viewer: Background colour switching
Hello TBBETA, I received an email that looked normal until I clicked into it. Then suddenly the whole background turned red. I cannot post it here as it was from my bank and contains sensitive data, so I will send it to Stefan by PM. Anyway, if anybody has experienced anything similar, please let us know. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
Hello Gleason, On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 22:50:57 -0400 GMT (20-Jul-21, 9:50 +0700 GMT), Gleason wrote: > Thomas, >> Hello Jernej, >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 23:10:27 +0200 GMT (20-Jul-21, 4:10 +0700 GMT), >> Jernej Simončič wrote: >>> On Monday, July 19, 2021, 19:29:09, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.6-x64.7z >>> HTML editor is kinda broken at least since 9.4.2.5 – if I type a long >>> enough line, TB seems to insert a hard break somewhere near 2/3rds of the >>> first line, but the second line does not wrap at all (or wraps in a >>> completely different place). Additionally, if I write an open bracket >>> followed by a space like this: ( and then continue typing, I then can't go >>> back and delete that space with the backspace key. Once the editor also >>> managed to delete everything from the cursor to the end of message when I >>> was just trying to delete a selected word (no idea how to reproduce this, >>> it was completely random). I'm writing this as a single paragraph, just to >>> demonstrate the weird wrapping that's happening. >> Confirmed for 9.4.2.5. Please create a bug report. (The paragraph below is a >> good example of the suddenly inserted hard LF.) >> When will the three important HTML bugs (and please add this one as the >> fourth) be fixed? It would be good to be able to use TB! in a business >> environment again. > When I stretch the message edit window wide enough, all wrapping disappears. > No hard lf present. > When displayed in the message preview pane, those long lines of text > disappear into the right margin. No soft lf. My editor window is full screen, and I have these hard LFs. Not always, mind you. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
Hello Jernej, On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 23:10:27 +0200 GMT (20-Jul-21, 4:10 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Monday, July 19, 2021, 19:29:09, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.6-x64.7z > HTML editor is kinda broken at least since 9.4.2.5 – if I type a long enough > line, TB seems to insert a hard break somewhere near 2/3rds of the first > line, but the second line does not wrap at all (or wraps in a completely > different place). Additionally, if I write an open bracket followed by a > space like this: ( and then continue typing, I then can't go back and delete > that space with the backspace key. Once the editor also managed to delete > everything from the cursor to the end of message when I was just trying to > delete a selected word (no idea how to reproduce this, it was completely > random). I'm writing this as a single paragraph, just to demonstrate the > weird wrapping that's happening. Confirmed for 9.4.2.5. Please create a bug report. (The paragraph below is a good example of the suddenly inserted hard LF.) When will the three important HTML bugs (and please add this one as the fourth) be fixed? It would be good to be able to use TB! in a business environment again. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Three versions a The Bat! installed??
Hello Gleason, On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 09:18:49 -0400 GMT (18-Jul-21, 20:18 +0700 GMT), Gleason wrote: >> Not sure if this a beta issue suitable for this list. >> Today I was "cleaning" my machine and I was surprised to see Revo >> Uninstaller report three different version of TB installed (See >> Clip-2.png attached). So, I opened Win 10 Configuration/Applications >> and saw the same 3 "installations" (See Clip-3.png). >> Does anybody else see something similar? > I have 3, all recent. My experience with something like that is that, if you > uninstall the oldest, you also uninstall the more recent. > Best to uninstall the old ones before installing the new msi next time. I, on the other hand, believe that the installer should uninstall any older version. I consider this a bug. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Three versions a The Bat! installed??
Hello MAU, On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:04:25 +0200 GMT (18-Jul-21, 18:04 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: > Hello MAU, >> I will open a BT report later. > See https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2149 Note added. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Three versions a The Bat! installed??
Hello MAU, On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 12:42:08 +0200 GMT (18-Jul-21, 17:42 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: > Not sure if this a beta issue suitable for this list. > Today I was "cleaning" my machine and I was surprised to see Revo > Uninstaller report three different version of TB installed (See > Clip-2.png attached). So, I opened Win 10 Configuration/Applications > and saw the same 3 "installations" (See Clip-3.png). > Does anybody else see something similar? Yes indeed. I found v9.3.4 and v9.4.0 in the app list. It appears that when I upgraded to 9.4 the old version was not fully uninstalled when installing the new version with the .msi file. I can understand that Win10 does not recognise the beta version I am using, as I only manually overwrote the .exe file. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.5 HTML bugs still unfixed
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:18:36 +0300 GMT (16-Jul-21, 23:18 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.5 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.5-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: Not fixed HTML bugs: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2144 Internal links in HTML message are not being followed (HTML viewer) https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2147 Font change in HTML emails (HTML editor) https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 Jumping cursor when replying inline to HTML messages (HTML editor) With these bugs still unfixed, I will not use a verison with the new HTML editor on my work laptop, and I cannot recommend to any non-tech user to upgrade. I tried to reply inline to an HTML message yesterday and it was so much headache with the jumping cursor that I ended deleted the draft and creating a new reply using top-posting, which means the new HTML editor is still not usable. Changing fonts in a business email look highly unprofessional, and also makes the new HTML editor unusable in a business environment. Not following internal links (which are quite typical in newsletters) makes the user think his mouse is broken, or - and they will be right - their email client is. Kindly fix these bugs to make TB! a professional tool again that normal people can use in the office. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.2
Hello Ethan, On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:17:24 -0400 GMT (15-Jul-21, 0:17 +0700 GMT), Ethan J. Mings wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.2-x64-full.7z U&R > I really like the developments with the HTML editor. So do I, but some bugs (especially the jumping cursor or the changing font) are really annoying. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24 ccan not apply styles
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:51:25 +0700 GMT (09-Jul-21, 16:51 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello George, On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 11:49:32 +0300 GMT (30-Jun-21, 15:49 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:24:27 +0200 GMT (29-Jun-21, 23:24 +0700 GMT), Gwen wrote: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2139 Thanks, i confirmed the bug. Can you tell me where to set/define the different styles? See attached jpg My styles icon has disappeared, and the default font is called "S", a font I don't want to use: I wonder how this even happened. I might have hit some crtl-combo again - how can I adjust the default font again? If I highlight the whole empty space from "Hello" to "Best regards" in my reply and then choose Courier New 11, the moment I start typing text in the middle, it will back to that horrible default. Note: It happens when I reply to HTML messages. It does not happen with this message, as I am replying to a plaintext message, I just changed the editor manually to HTML. I just replied to a message from Japan, and they must have used some Japanese font. Upon Reply, the editor showed this font:Going back to my previous report above, showing the "S" font, that happens with replies to email received from China. So, the font that TB! uses is the font of the original message. I'd prefer an option in the HTML editor settings "Use same font as incoming message [ ]" where, if not ticked, the default font is used. That said, I still cannot change the font to anything else for more than one line, and I still don't have the "Styles" icon. Does anybody else miss the Styles icon, or is it only me? When I was first made aware of it, it was there. Now it is gone. Am I the only one? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Jernej, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 15:21:40 +0200 GMT (11-Jul-21, 20:21 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 13:35:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Well, it works in the plaintext viewer but it does *not* work in the HTML >> viewer. I see the message number highlighted and clickable, but nothing >> happens. > Did you make the link yourself, or was it made automatically? Because if I > paste , TB makes the link > automatically, and it should work once I post it (since it includes the mid: > prefix, which your link lacked). I made the link by myself; I copied and paste the mid from the headers and added "mid:" in front. How did you paste with "mid:", as it is not in the incoming mail? The HTML viewer should recognise the link evenif "mid:" is added manually, as the plaintext viewer does. Secondly and more importantly, I clicked on the link and TB! was "Not Responding" any more, i.e. I had to kill it with the task manager. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Marck, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 09:56:02 +0100 GMT (11-Jul-21, 15:56 +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: > On 11 July 2021 at 03:50 Thomas Fernandez wrote and made these points > ... TF>> Do you mean something like I described in my posting ? TF>> By the way, only the mid numberr is highlighted here in the editor, not the "mid:" part. Let's see whether the link works when the message is received from the list. > I see the same in the received message here. > The link doesn't work. It does do something. It blanks the current message > view. The message can be redisplayed easily enough by switching between > display tabs in a message with multiple parts. The link *does* work and > appear correctly in the quote above, which makes this a bug in the HTML > editor. Well, it works in the plaintext viewer but it does *not* work in the HTML viewer. I see the message number highlighted and clickable, but nothing happens. My suggestion is to make it work also in the HTML viewer. > I also see: > Summoning my 'snip' QT using its defined hotkey. Using > to summon it by handle no longer even tries to work. It just > brings up the QT list with my snip QT selected, which half works. This is > true of both MicroEd and the HTML editor. > Paste as quote from original HTML into Plain Text reply only puts the reply > quote in from of the first line of a paragraph, even one that's wrapping. This is a different issue (and should probably be honoured with a separate email thread). crtl-space does show the QTs over here, at least in this plaintext editor. I just tried with the HTML editor, once I got an access vilation, the second time it worked without a problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello MAU, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 10:56:01 +0200 GMT (11-Jul-21, 15:56 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: > Hello Thomas, >> By the way, only the mid numberr is highlighted here in the editor, >> not the "mid:" part. Let's see whether the link works when the >> message is received from the list. > It does not work if viewing HTML. No problem if the Text tab is > selected. Well, it should work, don't you agree? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
Hello Sergey, On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 00:32:07 +0300 GMT (11-Jul-21, 4:32 +0700 GMT), Sergey Chubchenko wrote: > Hi Stefan, >> Version 9.4.2 is available for testing - > U&R. > > One bug (id: 0002146): after selecting text in HTML Editor, change font name > (by manual entering font name at toolbar) and press "Enter" - selection will > lose from selected text and need to reselect it again to change other styles > of this text. Do you mean something like I described in my posting ? By the way, only the mid numberr is highlighted here in the editor, not the "mid:" part. Let's see whether the link works when the message is received from the list. Why did your sig jump on top of the second paragraph in this reply? In your original message the sig is below the paragraph. And yes, I support your wish. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Annoying pop-up window
Hello TBBETA, I have one email account which is really a GSuite account. This means, most of the time there is no problem but every so often, Google does not let me check new mails with POP. TB! will then show a pop-up window, asking me to key in the password (apparently, Google said it was wrong) and whether I want to update the account data. No problem with that. The problem is that it is system nodal (I think this is the technical term), meaning that it will be on top of all other windows in my Win10. I maybe working on a Word file. So, I click on "cancel" and what happens is that the Windows focus switches to TB!, and that is really interruptive and breaks my stream of work. This is annoying. I want the focus to stay in the Windows app I am currently using and not go to TB! after I click "cancel". Preferrably, I don't even want the pop-up to show at all until I switch to TB! by myself. Any supporters for this wish? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.1 MSI
Hello Stefan, On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 11:05:58 +0300 GMT (10-Jul-21, 15:05 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > Hello Thomas, > Friday, July 9, 2021, 12:16:46 PM, you wrote: >> Do you have any BT tracking numbers for the fixed bugs? > Nope, sorry. We were working on lists compiled from internal testing results Oh, I see. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24 ccan not apply styles
Hello George, On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 11:49:32 +0300 GMT (30-Jun-21, 15:49 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:24:27 +0200 GMT (29-Jun-21, 23:24 +0700 GMT), Gwen wrote: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2139 Thanks, i confirmed the bug. Can you tell me where to set/define the different styles? See attached jpg My styles icon has disappeared, and the default font is called "S", a font I don't want to use: I wonder how this even happened. I might have hit some crtl-combo again - how can I adjust the default font again? If I highlight the whole empty space from "Hello" to "Best regards" in my reply and then choose Courier New 11, the moment I start typing text in the middle, it will back to that horrible default. Note: It happens when I reply to HTML messages. It does not happen with this message, as I am replying to a plaintext message, I just changed the editor manually to HTML. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work
Hello George, On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 08:44:28 +0300 GMT (06-Jul-21, 12:44 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: >> Using shift-crtl-V: > Using this shift+ctrl+v is not work as needed! If you have any formatted text > (with color, or bold, or some another size) with shift+ctrl+v you are paste > to this part of text with parameters as you have of this formatted text (if > you have blue word before then pasted text with shift+ctrl+v will be blue on > v9-3-4 and early - it paste formatted like previous text in the message > window, with v9-4 it goes to be pasted without formatting as previous text > and needs to use notepad as gasket to have this normal behavior). crtl-V: Bold underline bold underline blue shift-crtl-V: Bold underline bold underline blue Works as expected over here. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.1 MSI
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 21:46:32 +0300 GMT (09-Jul-21, 1:46 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Hello All, > We've made a release with hot fixes to HTML template editor. Here they are: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-4-1.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-4-1.msi > Short list of fixes: > [-] There were no context menu in HTML template editor > [-] Some menu commands and toolbar buttons were not functional > [-] When HTML templates were containing images with non-ASCII paths, messages > could contain empty placeholders instead of images > [-] Some HTML messages could look messed in reply when quoted Do you have any BT tracking numbers for the fixed bugs? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font change in HTML emails
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:00:04 +0700 GMT (30-Jun-21, 9:00 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello TBBEA, On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 07:22:35 +0700 GMT (14-Feb-21, 7:22 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: Just about anything else. If you need a monospaced font that's available (almost) everywhere, use Lucida Console or Consolas - neither have the problem with thinness on high-DPI displays that Courier New has. The problem is not the font, the problem is your display. Anyway, I am using Lucida Console now. The problem of this font is with my eyes - I don't like it. Going back to Courier New. ;-) Change of font in the middle of the email is back: Changing from Calibri 11 (that was the font of the email I was replying to) to Courier New 10 (my own standard) from one paragraph to another without reason. It happens only sometimes and I haven't found a pattern yt. It does not look good in business emails. Even if I highlight the whole reply and choose a font and size, it changes again. It seems to be random, sometimes hitting triggers that, and just now it changed in the middle of a line to my default font and size. Confirmations? I think this should be easy to fix, once the developers look at the code and find where the default font and size is triggered. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Internal links in HTML message are not being followed
Hello Gwen, On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 11:31:16 +0200 GMT (06-Jul-21, 16:31 +0700 GMT), Gwen wrote: >> Some HTML messages have tags or internal links. So that if you >> click on them, the cursor jumps to that tag. I receive that in newsletters. >> >> When clicking on such an internal link just now, TB! simply ignored it. The >> newsletter is attached. >> >> Confirmations? > Confirmed The bat! 9.4 32bit > Please report to Ritlabs bug tracker. Thanks. See https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2144 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New HTML editor: Paste as plaintext does not work
Hello George, On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 12:15:50 +0300 GMT (05-Jul-21, 16:15 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: > Try to past a link or a formatted text (such as from a Word file) into an > HTML email. Normal paste (crtl-V or right-click Paste) works. > If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, > and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to > copy the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat. > This started with the introduction of the new HTML editor. > Confirmations? > I can confirm. Additionally, Paste as quotation from the dropdown menu in > tool bar an in context menu is deactivated either. > Kindly support https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2127 Still the same in 9.3.4.16. >>> Not fixed in 9.3.4.18 >> Fixed in 9.3.4.22. > It not fixed in 9.4! > >>> If I want to paste as plaintext, shift-crtl-V will still paste formatted, >>>and right-click Paste as Plaintext is greyed out. So I always have to copy >>>the text into Notepad and then copy from there into TheBat. > > I do need the same now but in other way! If I stay on the row of text where > is formatted text is available I can't paste with SHIFT+CTRL+V with same > formatting of text in this row of text. I do need to use it notepad here as > gasket. > That incredible! Using crtl-V: Netflix Using shift-crtl-V: https://www.netflix.com/browse Using right-click / Paste: Netflix Using right-click / Paste as Plain Text: https://www.netflix.com/browse Nothing is greyed out here, works as intended. Well, except that it adds a LF before the text when pasting in plain text, but I consider that cosmetic. You do not use a footer (sig) showing your TB! and Windows versions. It would help if you did. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI - Microsoft Store
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:52 +0300 GMT (06-Jul-21, 0:33 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> When trying to install the .msi I got a warning about not being an app from >> Microsoft store. I had to change my Windows 10 configuration settings >> to allow installing apps from "anywhere, but warn me before installing". I >> had never seen this with TB msis or any other app. > That's an interesting observation, thanks. So, Microsoft is finally starting > to push its store, I guess... Any chance you can get TB! onto that store, so that we also can choose it as the default app for Mail in Settings? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI TB! icon in task bar
Hello Jernej, On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 11:41:23 +0200 GMT (05-Jul-21, 16:41 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Friday, July 2, 2021, 15:40:51, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-4.msi > Looks like the pinned icon survived even after rebooting my computer (except > it's blank now…) It's not blank here but with the icon as it should be. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview pane missing
Hello George, On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 11:41:36 +0300 GMT (04-Jul-21, 15:41 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: >> Writing from my laptop as my PC's TB! became inoperable. I installed 9.4 >> from the MSI, and all was normal, I even posted a message here. I left TB! >> open as usual while working on something else, and then when I went back to >> TB!, the preview pane was gone. >> Any idea what the reason could be? I probably inadvertedly hit some crtl-key >> combo... > Try to press SHIFT+CTRL+E. Thanks, I saw that when Jernej pointed me to the menu item. That must have been the key combo I inadvertedly clicked. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24 National characters when forwarding HTML messages
Hello Jernej, On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 17:56:42 +0700 GMT (28-Jun-21, 17:56 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:30:05 +0200 GMT (28-Jun-21, 17:30 +0700 GMT), > Jernej Simončič wrote: >> I noticed two problems (though I don't think they're new in this version, >> it's just that I only noticed now): >> - when I forward HTML messages in one specific account, national characters >> get mangled (eg. š becomes ĹĄ). I have no idea why – if I move the message >> to a different account and forward it from there, the national characters >> remain unchanged > Confirmed. I have also noticed this for a few beta (alpha) versions with > German umlauts. Still present in 9.4. Do you want to create a bug report or should I? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[OT] Usefulness of anti-virus software (was: Preview pane missing)
Hello Joerg, On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 22:57:56 +0200 GMT (04-Jul-21, 3:57 +0700 GMT), Joerg Schiermeier wrote: > On 2021-07-03 at 15:10 (UTC +0700) Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have >> to do with it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer, > Almost all so called "Anti Virus" is snake oil [1][2]. > Only use "Brain 1.0"! I see you don't have staff in your office who would click on any attachment, especially when it ways "invoice" or "payment". I am in the logistics industry, and we received targeted emails with malware payment; called "vessel delay notice" or "shipping documents" which are subject and attachment names we received legitimately regularly. I have also encountered websites of government ministries were I had to look up something and avast! sounded an alarm because the website had some malware it wanted to download onto my computer. I don't click on suspicious links, but legit URLs can be infected too. So, please don't tell me that AV software has no use. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [9.3.4.26 and 9.4 msi] HTML Inline replies
Hello TBBETA, On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:30:17 +0700 GMT (02-Jul-21, 9:30 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > I have a problem with inline replies to HTML messages. I only noticed this > now, because in business, we usually reply on top. > Take an HTML message with several paragraphs. > > 1.) Place the cursor after one paragraph and hit . The cursor is at > the right point, the green line is disrupted, but the screen is on the top of > the email, not where the cursor is. I think it is where the %cursor macro in > the reply template was. This is a cosmetic bug. > > 2.) Place the cursor now after another paragraph and hit . In 50% of > the cases it works fine, in the other 50% the cursor is not under the reply > to the former paragraph. I cannot find out when this happens, maybe someone > else can try. I played with this second-paragraph-reply problem with the same > email and got different results. This is a more serious bug. When I tried to replicated by replying to this message which I am replying to, everything worked as expected. However, I just encountered the cursor jumping when inline-replying again. I will send it to Stef for analysis. I have opened a bug report, as I think this should be fixed before the release: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 — Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
