Re: 5.0 showstoppers - Hang on sendng mail - mail NOT sent

Hello Marek, Thursday, January 27, 2011, 7:30:02 PM, you wrote: Snip... > open account properties and in Transport section, enable SMTP protocol > logging, TB will log complete connection between client and server, You > will see everything there. Doh! I'll try that. -- Best regards, Tony

Re[2]: 5.0 showstoppers - Hang on sendng mail - mail NOT sent

Hello all, Thursday, January 27, 2011, Tony Hoare wrote: > Hello Dwight, >> are you sure it was not sent? (Have you confirmed non-receipt with the >> intended recipient?) > I am waiting on his call. It's quite embarrassing to have to call a > person when you really would like to converse with t

Re: 5.0 showstoppers - Hang on sendng mail - mail NOT sent

Hello Dwight, > are you sure it was not sent? (Have you confirmed non-receipt with the > intended recipient?) >   I am waiting on his call. It's quite embarrassing to have to call a person when you really would like to converse with them by email. The worry is that I have just assumed that pre

Re: 5.0 showstoppers - Hang on sendng mail - mail NOT sent

On Thursday, January 27, 2011, 4:25:41 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: > OK, I now have the situation where the email was NOT sent. I can see > that this send do not have the log message expected; > 27/01/2011, 10:17:50: SEND - connection finished - 1 message(s) sent are you sure it was not sent? (Ha

Re: 5.0 showstoppers - Hang on sendng mail - mail NOT sent

Hello All, > Snip... > This  is  now  URGENT as we cannot tolerate an email client that only > randomly sends mail. Another failed send. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.132 BETA _

Re: 5.0 showstoppers - Hang on sendng mail - mail NOT sent

Hello Dwight, Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:09:45 PM, you wrote: > On Monday, January 17, 2011, 6:32:37 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: >   TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is actually sent but CS shows as still sending. >>> Confirmed. You can't close TB! in that

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi, > Just realized that that also happens if you start in a subfolder of an > IMAP account. this one is driving me nuts. So In an IMAP account, you have a long list of entries all parked. Then I deleted tehm all and some of them come back... Obviously because the folder is refreshed while delet

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi Marck, > Further information: when I select another IMAP folder in the > account, any waiting mail appears in the Inbox. That behaviour is consistent with what I see if I resume after hibernate. I need to switch to another folder to push TB! into reconnecting. I think the problem is the 'When

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Dear List, @15-Jan-2011, 12:31 Marck Pearlstone [MP] in mid:91785809.20110115123...@silverstones.com said to Stefan: ... MP> Not sure if this one is reported or what the BT reference is, but MP> while not a crash is a major usability impediment: TB *never* checks MP> my IMAP account for new mes

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi, > - Don't even think about sending a mail from a common folder with > identity set (to an IMAP folder?). Because you end up with several parked > messages that > obviously contain drafts. See attached picture. Just realized that that also happens if you start in a subfolder of an IMAP ac

Re: Virtual folders (was:Re: 5.0 showstoppers)

domingo, 16 ene 2011 at 21:36, it seems you wrote: > how could they work, if they do not refresh? ;-) The show the messages they should show on each start but do not refresh. So they're semi-working ;-) -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.129 BETA Professional OTFE wi

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Howdy, On 1/15/2011, 10:02 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote in >> So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we >> will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. >> Thank you! > In short: almost everything reported for the UI. > The sheer number of er

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Dwight, >> Reported: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8350 >   > I believe that is the same problem as > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8285 >   Yup. Sorry, didn't see it. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.0.129 B

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

On Monday, January 17, 2011, 6:32:37 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: >>> TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is >>> actually sent but CS shows as still sending. >> Confirmed. You can't close TB! in that case and after killing it and >> restarting it still shows the task for

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

> I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to > fix, but we need to make a "milestone" release - there are just too > many reason to do it and the main one is psychological - it's really > difficult to (re)write code for more than a year and not to make a > release, it's

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Stefan, > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. > Thank you! The adjusted screen layout preference (such as the vertical delimiter on the right side of folder list) returns on every

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

> Snip ... > > After TB reads incoming mail and filters it to Inbox Known (that's > what my test filter does), TB then selects Inbox Known because it > knows there is a new mail to read(?), then IDLEs in Inbox Known. After > this, new mail arriving in Inbox is not noticed because TB is watching > I

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Raymund, Monday, January 17, 2011, 9:47:42 AM, you wrote: > Hi Tony, >> TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is >> actually sent but CS shows as still sending. > Confirmed. You can't close TB! in that case and after killing it and > restarting it still shows

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi Tony, > TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is > actually sent but CS shows as still sending. Confirmed. You can't close TB! in that case and after killing it and restarting it still shows the task for sending. -- Best regards Raymund Using 5.0.0.129 BETA on Wi

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Stefan, >   So,  please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we >   will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. >   Thank you! TB Connection Centre sometimes hangs on sending an email. The mail is actually sent but CS shows as still sending. If this

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

... >>> This still doesn't explain why I can only get new messages by >>> manually polling. SC>> What is your setting under Account/Properties/Mail Management/Connect to the SC>> server. Mine is set for "When The Bat starts". MP> I'll try that. It didn't help. Still no auto-retrieval of waitin

Re[2]: Virtual folders (was:Re: 5.0 showstoppers)

Hello all, Sunday, January 16, 2011, NetVicious wrote: > sábado, 15 ene 2011 at 21:10, it seems you wrote: >> please fix virtual folders, they are not working during whole alpha and >> betatest. > They work, but they do not refresh until you restarts TB! how could they work, if they do not refr

Re: Virtual folders (was:Re: 5.0 showstoppers)

sábado, 15 ene 2011 at 21:10, it seems you wrote: > please fix virtual folders, they are not working during whole alpha and > betatest. They work, but they do not refresh until you restarts TB! -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.129 BETA Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Dear Stuart, @16-Jan-2011, 12:53 -0600 (16-Jan 18:53 here) Stuart [SC] in mid:148141903.20110116125...@fastmail.fm said to Marck: ... >> This still doesn't explain why I can only get new messages by >> manually polling. SC> What is your setting under Account/Properties/Mail Management/Connect t

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Marck, Sunday, January 16, 2011, 12:25:38 PM, you wrote: > Okay - that's a resounding "no". I couldn't even survive sending > the previous reply with filtering turned on. Looks like that's never > going to work for me. > This still doesn't explain why I can only get new messages by > manual

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Dear Tony, @16-Jan-2011, 16:29 Tony Hoare [TH] in mid:05805245.20110116162...@parkinch.co.uk said to Marck: ... TH> Perhaps, you can now turn on automatic filters in v128. Okay - that's a resounding "no". I couldn't even survive sending the previous reply with filtering turned on. Looks like t

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Marck, Snip ... > I am on build 128 with filtering turned on. With inbox selected, and > TB partially hidden behind another application, I can send myself > email from another program e.g. Gmail web. I have a test filter > (filtering  by  subject)  and  the mail shows up in the target fold

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Marck, Sunday, January 16, 2011, 2:19:56 PM, you wrote: > Dear Tony, > @16-Jan-2011, 13:05  Tony Hoare [TH] in > mid:1506961616.20110116130...@parkinch.co.uk said to Marck: > ... >>> ... TB *never* checks >>> my IMAP account for new messages unless done manually. Not even >>> sending com

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Dear Tony, @16-Jan-2011, 13:05 Tony Hoare [TH] in mid:1506961616.20110116130...@parkinch.co.uk said to Marck: ... >> ... TB *never* checks >> my IMAP account for new messages unless done manually. Not even >> sending command line /CHECK or /CHECKALL makes it happen. TH> TB now uses IMAP IDLE t

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Stefan, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 9:55:37 AM, among other things, you wrote: ST> So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we ST> will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. ST> Thank you! I understand your wish to make a new issue but

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Marck, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 12:31:10 PM, you wrote: > Dear Stefan, > @15-Jan-2011, 09:55 +0200 (15-Jan 07:55 here) Stefan Tanurkov [ST] > in mid:715772315.20110115095...@thebat.net said to All: > ... > Not sure if this one is reported or what the BT reference is, but > while not

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Dear Gary, @15-Jan-2011, 15:40 -0600 (15-Jan 21:40 here) Gary [G] in mid:446197423.20110115154012@localhost said to Stefan: ... G> getting AVs when moving to a different message. This does not happen often, G> but often enough to be bothersome. Once the AVs start in a TB session, they G> continu

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi Stefan, On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:55:37 +0200 UTC (1/15/2011, 1:55 AM -0600 UTC my time), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: S> So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we S> will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. S> Thank you! Certainly others hav

Re: 5.0 showstoppers - P.S.

Hi Stefan, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 12:55:37 AM, you wrote: [snip] ST> So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we ST> will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. ST> Thank you! My P.S. to my last message - my inbox filters are work

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi Stefan, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 12:55:37 AM, you wrote: ST> Hello All, ST> During the last year, most of the program's code was completely ST> rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working ST> properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

> Hello All, > During the last year, most of the program's code was completely > rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working > properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to > fix, but we need to make a "milestone" release - there are ju

Virtual folders (was:Re: 5.0 showstoppers)

Hello all, Saturday, January 15, 2011, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. > Thank you! please fix virtual folders, they are not working during whole alpha and be

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Alto, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 8:39:06 PM, you wrote: DH>> Contemplate a potential new user of TB happening upon a program that DH>> constantly reports errors [...] AS> Which is the current v4. Thanks for proving my point. Not this beta!... -- Best Wishes, Mark

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Alto! On Saturday, January 15, 2011 at 8:39:06 PM you wrote: > At this point in time I couldn't care less if the vehicle that is v5 > is sporting 500 PS or 550 PS. I'd be quite satisfied if it had four > wheels. Yes, and v5 might have some night ideas for an airbrush paintjob but it lack

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi, DH> That is not to say that v4 is perfect but it works quite well for DH> what it was originally programmed - and it does not throw DH> unexplainable errors at the user. Good one. If I wrote a report for every runtime error or other failure v4 is giving me in daily use, you'd have trouble

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

> properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to > fix, but we need to make a "milestone" release - there are just too > many reason to do it and the main one is psychological - it's really > difficult to (re)write code for more than a year and not to make a > rel

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Stuart, On 15-01-2011 14:39, you wrote in : > Mostly reported already, but: > 1) Sync does not work https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8278 > 2) Filtering in IMAP does not work properly > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8123 > 3) View Modes not working https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi Marck, > Not sure if this one is reported or what the BT reference is, but > while not a crash is a major usability impediment: TB *never* checks > my IMAP account for new messages unless done manually. Confirmed here. I always thought that was an issue with hibernation... > Having said that,

Corrupted Search bar (was: Re: 5.0 showstoppers)

Hello all, Saturday, January 15, 2011, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. > Thank you! since Quick search was removed from Smartpad and new buggy Search bar was

Missing progressbar (was: Re: 5.0 showstoppers)

Hello all, Saturday, January 15, 2011, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. > Thank you! as I already reported, in 5.0 there is no progressbar when copying/moving

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Alto, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 10:11:27 AM, you wrote: AS> The question of a v5 release therefore is not whether v5 at this AS> point in time is perfect, but whether it's better than the current AS> v4 release. Several times each day I consider going back to v4 knowing that: 1) my adjust

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Alto! On Saturday, January 15, 2011 at 4:11:27 PM you wrote: > The question of a v5 release therefore is not whether v5 at this point > in time is perfect, but whether it's better than the current v4 > release. I beg to differ. First of all, I do not have any unforeseeable errors with v4,

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 9:11:27 AM, Alto Speckhardt wrote: > Do keep in mind that errors like this also exist in the current v4. > Plus, v4 has modules that hardly work at all (IMAP). > The question of a v5 release therefore is not whether v5 at this point > in time is perfect, but wheth

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi, DH> The sheer number of error messages I get - i.e. closing TB leads to DH> AVs, error messages [...] Do keep in mind that errors like this also exist in the current v4. Plus, v4 has modules that hardly work at all (IMAP). The question of a v5 release therefore is not whether v5 at this po

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Stefan! On Saturday, January 15, 2011 at 8:55:37 AM you wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. > Thank you! In short: almost everything reported for the UI. The sheer number

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 8:55:37, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. This one is very annoying as well: (next unread message in a new folder doesn't start

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 13:04:29, Krzysztof Trybowski wrote: > * there is annoying something appearing every now and then as I hover > messages; it looks like a scaled-down message preview, but it is of no > use; I'd keep that off by default That's one of the new hints you're seeing. They

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 8:55:37, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. New hints are a serious annoyance: (they're bad enough that I only tolerate them beca

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

sábado, 15 ene 2011 at 08:55, it seems you wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. I created a lot of BTs, but from my list the only showstopper it's this: 5.0.0.x Alpha. Deleting a

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Marek, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 2:56:11 AM, you wrote: > And I am one who has problems with View modes? :-( Every start produces > strange results, menu and context menu displays different VM than folder > has and No I have the problem as well. Am I the only one with filter problems?

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Stefan, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 1:55:37 AM, you wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. > Thank you! Mostly reported already, but: 1) Sync does not work https://www.ritlab

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Dear Stefan, @15-Jan-2011, 09:55 +0200 (15-Jan 07:55 here) Stefan Tanurkov [ST] in mid:715772315.20110115095...@thebat.net said to All: ... ST> So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we ST> will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. o So

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Stefan and everybody, I've just downloaded 5.0 for the first time yesterday, so I have a fresh look at how it is different to 4.0 (as that is the version I normally use). I tested 5.0 for a few hours yesterday, and I definitely see some progress. I certainly hope that infrastructural changes

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Sveiki, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 9:55:37 AM, you wrote: > Hello All, > During the last year, most of the program's code was completely > rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working > properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to > f

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi all, ah, I forgot my top one: - Don't even think about sending a mail from a common folder with identity set (to an IMAP folder?). Because you end up with several parked messages that obviously contain drafts. See attached picture. -- Best regards Raymund Using 5.0.0.128 BETA on Windows

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hi Stefan, > difficult to (re)write code for more than a year and not to make a > release, it's just too much of pressure. I hope you're understand > what I'm trying to say. I see your point, but make sure that you don't add new functionality then that isn't working yet (to name but a

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello all, Saturday, January 15, 2011, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > So, please post your showstoppers as replies to this message and we > will deal with them asap. Please don't forget to add a BT link, too. > Thank you! well I understand You completely, but did You really tried new Image downl

Re: 5.0 showstoppers

Hello Stefan, Saturday, January 15, 2011, 2:55:37 AM, you wrote: > During the last year, most of the program's code was completely > rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working > properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to > fix, but w

5.0 showstoppers

Hello All, During the last year, most of the program's code was completely rewritten because of the architectural changes to make IMAP working properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to fix, but we need to make a "milestone" release - there are just too m