Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[NetVicious]

viernes, 12 mar. 2021 at 00:26, it seems you wrote:

> I respect your opinion.

> On my side, I receive .ics attachments when companies or large organisations 
> make appointments. These days they often virtual appointments, so they also 
> include a link too. Obviously, this is some Outlook-internal format. I can 
> neither read the appoinment date/time nor do I have access to the link. I 
> don't even use thr Outlook calendar, I use the Google calendar.

> I have no idea how to solve this problem. Now, I have to always send them an 
> email back and ask for a clear-text info, which of course is annoying for 
> them and looks bad for me. One person once asked me, "why don't you just use 
> Outlook like everybody else?"

> Software applications, especially those used in working envirnments, are 
> often integrated applications these days. Yes, it was different in the last 
> century and I  was of the opinion then that an email client should be limited 
> to (stay focussed on) email. Times have changed.

> I support the idea of a calendar, and I would like the option to synch it 
> with my Google calendar. Just my 2 cents worth.

I'm on the same position as you. We cannot read that messages and cannot answer 
the question if we will be on that meeting or not. I need to open those 
messages on my cell phone to accept the meeting.

If it's an optional plugin or not it will be ok for me. But as you described at 
this moment those types of emails are a problem using TB!.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat - Calendar function

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 18:18:21 +0100 GMT (15-Mar-21, 0:18 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

>> ... as I suggested earlier. With a plug-in, those who want a
>> calendar function can have it, and those who don't, won't need to load it 
>> into their RAM.
>>
>> And by the way, I never wanted nor do I like the themes, that's
>> unnecessary bloat for me. But I never complained that they are
>> integrated. So, please do not fight against a feature that you personally 
>> don't need. Thanks.

> Yes,  you  are  certainly  right.  A  plug-in  may be the way to go to
> satisfy everyone.

Thanks! I hope Stefan is reading this.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> ... as I suggested earlier. With a plug-in, those who want a
> calendar function can have it, and those who don't, won't need to load it 
> into their RAM.
>
> And by the way, I never wanted nor do I like the themes, that's
> unnecessary bloat for me. But I never complained that they are
> integrated. So, please do not fight against a feature that you personally 
> don't need. Thanks.

Yes,  you  are  certainly  right.  A  plug-in  may be the way to go to
satisfy everyone.


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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:11:46 +0100 GMT (13-Mar-21, 19:11 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

>> [2] "Feature creep"
>> 

> A good description indeed.

From that article:

QUOTE

Modularity
Another solution for feature creep is modularity. Power users who require more 
functionality can retrofit needed features by downloading software modules, 
plug-ins, add-ons (also known as add-ins) and custom themes to match their 
personal requirements.

UNQUOTE

... as I suggested earlier. With a plug-in, those who want a calendar function 
can have it, and those who don't, won't need to load it into their RAM.

And by the way, I never wanted nor do I like the themes, that's unnecessary 
bloat for me. But I never complained that they are integrated. So, please do 
not fight against a feature that you personally don't need. Thanks.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[MAU]

Hello Joerg,

> [2] "Feature creep"
> 

A good description indeed.


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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Gleason,

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 09:22:13 -0500 GMT (12-Mar-21, 21:22 +0700 GMT),
Gleason wrote:

> Thomas,

>> Hello Gleason,

>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 19:53:52 -0500 GMT (12-Mar-21, 07:53 +0700 GMT),
>> Gleason wrote:

 Software applications, especially those used in working envirnments, are 
 often integrated applications these days. Yes, it was different in the 
 last century and I  was of the opinion then that an email client should be 
 limited to (stay focussed on) email. Times have changed.

>>> Doing something well is no longer a priority?

>> Doing only one thing well is just not enough any more, IMHO.

>> Like many others, I was a plaintext enthusiast and did not know why there 
>> were people who wanted TB! to also accommodate HTML emails. I remember the 
>> vivid discussions. I have changed my mind in the meantime. Times are moving 
>> on.

> Yes, I remember the html email struggle.  Since then, html email is pretty 
> much everywhere.  Calendars not so much.

Maybe not yet. But then, there is nothing wrong with being innovate rather than 
always lagging behind. Especially in the software industry these days.

> Corporate employees who are more or less constantly in meetings, sales people 
> who meet directly with customers need calendars.  Is that everybody?

I don't know whether that's everybody, but I happen to be in that customer 
group of Ritlabs. ;-)

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Joerg,

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 03:47:59 +0100 GMT (13-Mar-21, 9:47 +0700 GMT),
Joerg Schiermeier wrote:

> On 2021-03-11 at 23:00 MAU wrote:

>> > My  opinion:  Email  clients have better things to do than try to be
>> > pim's  or calendars. Email clients that try to provide other complex
>> > features  often  end up not doing any of them really well. Sometimes
>> > the  old  linux  idea  of  doing one thing and doing it really well,
>> > applies.
>>
>> I fully agree with you.

> Hi Gleason, hi MAU, hello Stephan and hello to the list!

> First:
> I agree to Gleasons opinion too.

> Second:
> I left the windowed world more than 21 years ago and all my applications
> I now run are based on the descendants of UNIX and Linux: the
> Debian operation system. And I also prefer software which is made based
> on the KISS principle [1].

> The only applications from the windowed world I use every day is "The
> Bat!" now running on top of wine. I know and use "The Bat!" since
> its version 1.32. Neither Thunderbird nor KMail nor Claws Mail hits my
> requirements of today for professional use of e-mail communication.

> This maybe the reason why I'm a little scared about when I hear about to
> built in new and untested feature into "The Bat!".

I will assume that TheBat! has a modular architecture. So, if there is an 
additional feature you don't want to use, you just don't use it. It won't have 
any effect on the features that you do want to use and cherish.

If you don't want to see this feature in the main program, maybe we can 
persuade Stefan to make it an optional plug-in, what do you think?

And by the way, I will also assume that it will be tested - first the in-house 
alpha testing and then the beta testing on this very list.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:23:53 +0200 GMT (13-Mar-21, 0:23 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

>> Hopefully one of them is image download manager that's been missing since 
>> the switch to CEF :)

> Yes, we do plan to make a new image download manager :-)

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Title: Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat


Hello Mark,

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:19:45 +0100 GMT (12-Mar-21, 21:19 +0700 GMT),
Mark Partous wrote:







Sorry for the HTML and pictures...

Hello Thomas,


Friday, March 12, 2021, 12:26:11 AM, you wrote:

TF>  I can neither read the appoinment date/time nor do I have access to the link. I don't even use thr Outlook calendar, I use the Google calendar.

TF> I have no idea how to solve this problem.

Are you kidding?



No, I'm not. Thanks for the workaround. Complicated but usable.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Joerg Schiermeier]

On 2021-03-11 at 23:00 MAU wrote:

> > My  opinion:  Email  clients have better things to do than try to be
> > pim's  or calendars. Email clients that try to provide other complex
> > features  often  end up not doing any of them really well. Sometimes
> > the  old  linux  idea  of  doing one thing and doing it really well,
> > applies.  
> 
> I fully agree with you.

Hi Gleason, hi MAU, hello Stephan and hello to the list!

First:
I agree to Gleasons opinion too.

Second:
I left the windowed world more than 21 years ago and all my applications
I now run are based on the descendants of UNIX and Linux: the
Debian operation system. And I also prefer software which is made based
on the KISS principle [1].

The only applications from the windowed world I use every day is "The
Bat!" now running on top of wine. I know and use "The Bat!" since
its version 1.32. Neither Thunderbird nor KMail nor Claws Mail hits my
requirements of today for professional use of e-mail communication.

This maybe the reason why I'm a little scared about when I hear about to
built in new and untested feature into "The Bat!".


My point of view is clearly influenced by the KISS principle:
create one small and effective app [1].

So my wished addressed to the "RitLabs"-Team:
Please fix some major and minor bugs in "The Bat!" first! Maybe you
want to take the goal "bug free" as your guiding stars!

Than there maybe some time to think about new features - otherwise a
feature crepping [2] progress will take place and all is lost


[1] "KISS principle"


[2] "Feature creep"


My two cents!
Thank you for your attention!

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Jernej Simončič]

On Friday, March 12, 2021, 18:39:26, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> We have email handling ideas as well as it would be nice to hear such ideas 
> from users (it's quite quiet here, so let's discuss some!), but calendar is a 
> long awaited functionality anyway.

Any chance of adding ManageSieve filtering support (RFC 5804) for IMAP accounts?

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Stefan,
Friday, March 12, 2021, 11:39:26 AM, you wrote:

> Good point and yes, IMAP profiles feature is being designed already, you've 
> just added a new dimension to it. :-)  

Is it possible to add Junk mail to the Pre-defined IMAP folders, like Outbox, 
Sent mail and Trash. In some accounts I seem to have 3 or 4 Junk mail choices 
and they all seem to show Junk mail depending on what determines its Junk. For 
example in one account I have a Junk Mail folder, a [Gmail]/Spam folder and a 
mail/spam.incoming folder.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

> We have email handling ideas as well as it would be nice to hear
> such ideas from users (it's quite quiet here, so let's discuss some!)

My  ideas are about RSS  feeds. Let me quote what I suggested in the
past in this list.

,- [ On 13 Mar 2014 I wrote: ]
| One nice little feature FeedDemon has is 'auto-discovery'. This is, when
| you want to subscribe to a feed you don't need to enter the URL of the
| feed (specially if you don't know it), you can just enter the site's
| home address and FeedDemon will 'discover' the feed's URL and use it to
| subscribe.
| 
| I have no idea of how simple or complex it would be to implement such a
| feature, but it think it would be a nice addition to TB's RSS
| subscriptions. Nothing really essential or needed, but nice.
`-

,- [ On 20 Mar 2014 I wrote ]
| It may already be in the road map of RSS development, but just in 
| case...
| 
| I think the possibility of selecting a single feed folder or group 
| (Aggregate folder) and manually updating it/them would be a nice 
| addition. Certainly not an essential or really needed feature, just 
| convenient. Other existing RSS readers include this option.
`-

,- [ On 20 Mar 2014 I wrote ]
| Again, this may already be in the road map, but...
| 
| In the RSS account log I have seen errors such as:
| 
| "Cannot open specified URL (Folder:...)(LastError = 12006) The URL does not 
use
| a recognized protocol"
| 
| "Invalid XML was received (Folder: ...; Details: "DTD está prohibido. /
| / Line: 1 / https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=526
[Wish] Make RSS Subscription folder Properties more similar to normal folders

With those additions RSS feeds handling in TB would be nearly perfect.


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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Gleason, 

> It would be a "me too" feature.  Maybe new ideas in email handling have run 
> out?

We have email handling ideas as well as it would be nice to hear such ideas 
from users (it's quite quiet here, so let's discuss some!), but calendar is a 
long awaited functionality anyway.

> I, for instance, need to switch to emclient or postbox if I need to do a 
> search on a server imap folder that has some thousands of stored email.  TB 
> simply doesn't find the matches.  TB, on the other hand, doesn't spend huge 
> amounts of time indexing imap folders, which is good.  Maybe there isn't a 
> solution for this.  Which means that if somebody could actually solve it, how 
> wonderful.

Good point and yes, IMAP profiles feature is being designed already, you've 
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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Jernej, 

> Hopefully one of them is image download manager that's been missing since the 
> switch to CEF :)

Yes, we do plan to make a new image download manager :-)

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Alto, 

> Pity about the delay, but looking forward to that! Will it be possible to 
> sync to CalDav online calendars, and will it be possible to send/accept 
> meeting invitations? That sure would be a killer feature!

Yes, CalDav and send/accept/change will be possible.


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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Gleason]

Title: Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat


Mark,

There had to be a better way.  Google can't be the only option either.







Sorry for the HTML and pictures...

Hello Thomas,


Friday, March 12, 2021, 12:26:11 AM, you wrote:

TF>  I can neither read the appoinment date/time nor do I have access to the link. I don't even use thr Outlook calendar, I use the Google calendar.

TF> I have no idea how to solve this problem.

Are you kidding?

Perhaps someone else has already answered, but if not [did not change my settings to English, but Dutch should do]:

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First save the .ics file to disk




Then in Google Agenda


Go to settings:






Choose Import & Export




Find the ics-file and choose import:






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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Gleason]

Thomas,

> Hello Gleason,

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 19:53:52 -0500 GMT (12-Mar-21, 07:53 +0700 GMT),
> Gleason wrote:

>>> Software applications, especially those used in working envirnments, are 
>>> often integrated applications these days. Yes, it was different in the last 
>>> century and I  was of the opinion then that an email client should be 
>>> limited to (stay focussed on) email. Times have changed.

>> Doing something well is no longer a priority?

> Doing only one thing well is just not enough any more, IMHO.

> Like many others, I was a plaintext enthusiast and did not know why there 
> were people who wanted TB! to also accommodate HTML emails. I remember the 
> vivid discussions. I have changed my mind in the meantime. Times are moving 
> on.

Yes, I remember the html email struggle.  Since then, html email is pretty much 
everywhere.  Calendars not so much.  Corporate employees who are more or less
constantly in meetings, sales people who meet directly with customers need 
calendars.  Is that everybody?

> Cheers,
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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Mark Partous]

Sorry for the HTML and pictures...

Hello Thomas,


Friday, March 12, 2021, 12:26:11 AM, you wrote:

TF>  I can neither read the appoinment date/time nor do I have access to the 
link. I don't even use thr Outlook calendar, I use the Google calendar.

TF> I have no idea how to solve this problem.

Are you kidding?

Perhaps someone else has already answered, but if not [did not change my 
settings to English, but Dutch should do]: 

In The Bat! (or any other email-client)

First save the .ics file to disk


Then in Google Agenda
Go to settings:



Choose Import & Export


Find the ics-file and choose import:






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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Gleason,

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 19:53:52 -0500 GMT (12-Mar-21, 07:53 +0700 GMT),
Gleason wrote:

>> Software applications, especially those used in working envirnments, are 
>> often integrated applications these days. Yes, it was different in the last 
>> century and I  was of the opinion then that an email client should be 
>> limited to (stay focussed on) email. Times have changed.

> Doing something well is no longer a priority?

Doing only one thing well is just not enough any more, IMHO.

Like many others, I was a plaintext enthusiast and did not know why there were 
people who wanted TB! to also accommodate HTML emails. I remember the vivid 
discussions. I have changed my mind in the meantime. Times are moving on.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Gleason]

Thomas,

> Hello Gleason,

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:35:56 -0500 GMT (11-Mar-21, 21:35 +0700 GMT),
> Gleason wrote:

 We have also changed plans about the calendar which is going to be a major 
 addition and decided to postpone its release to the second half of this 
 year.

>>> Pity about the delay, but looking forward to that! Will it be possible to 
>>> sync to CalDav online calendars, and will it be possible to send/accept 
>>> meeting invitations? That sure would be a killer feature!

>> It would be a "me too" feature.  Maybe new ideas in email handling have run 
>> out?

>> My opinion:  Email clients have better things to do than try to be pim's or 
>> calendars.
>> Email clients that try to provide other complex features often end up not 
>> doing any of them really well.
>> Sometimes the old linux idea of doing one thing and doing it really well, 
>> applies.

> I respect your opinion.

> On my side, I receive .ics attachments when companies or large organisations 
> make appointments. These days they often virtual appointments, so they also 
> include a link too. Obviously, this is some Outlook-internal format. I can 
> neither read the appoinment date/time nor do I have access to the link. I 
> don't even use thr Outlook calendar, I use the Google calendar.

> I have no idea how to solve this problem. Now, I have to always send them an 
> email back and ask for a clear-text info, which of course is annoying for 
> them and looks bad for me. One person once asked me, "why don't you just use 
> Outlook like everybody else?"

I have heard that.  There was a time when I ran OS/2 when it was far superior 
to anything MS or Apple offered.  Then I decided I wanted
to go to University in a computer oriented program.  I had no choice.  Windows 
it was, but not 98, NT 4 was the best at the time.  I have never been able to
go back to OS/2, but my choice remains a server os, Server 2016 these days.  
Which is to say, you don't need to run Win 98 simply because everybody
else is.  And you don't need to have your calendar built into your email client 
simply because everybody else does.  There are other ways.

> Software applications, especially those used in working envirnments, are 
> often integrated applications these days. Yes, it was different in the last 
> century and I  was of the opinion then that an email client should be limited 
> to (stay focussed on) email. Times have changed.

Doing something well is no longer a priority?


> I support the idea of a calendar, and I would like the option to synch it 
> with my Google calendar. Just my 2 cents worth.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Gleason,

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:35:56 -0500 GMT (11-Mar-21, 21:35 +0700 GMT),
Gleason wrote:

>>> We have also changed plans about the calendar which is going to be a major 
>>> addition and decided to postpone its release to the second half of this 
>>> year.

>> Pity about the delay, but looking forward to that! Will it be possible to 
>> sync to CalDav online calendars, and will it be possible to send/accept 
>> meeting invitations? That sure would be a killer feature!

> It would be a "me too" feature.  Maybe new ideas in email handling have run 
> out?

> My opinion:  Email clients have better things to do than try to be pim's or 
> calendars.
> Email clients that try to provide other complex features often end up not 
> doing any of them really well.
> Sometimes the old linux idea of doing one thing and doing it really well, 
> applies.

I respect your opinion.

On my side, I receive .ics attachments when companies or large organisations 
make appointments. These days they often virtual appointments, so they also 
include a link too. Obviously, this is some Outlook-internal format. I can 
neither read the appoinment date/time nor do I have access to the link. I don't 
even use thr Outlook calendar, I use the Google calendar.

I have no idea how to solve this problem. Now, I have to always send them an 
email back and ask for a clear-text info, which of course is annoying for them 
and looks bad for me. One person once asked me, "why don't you just use Outlook 
like everybody else?"

Software applications, especially those used in working envirnments, are often 
integrated applications these days. Yes, it was different in the last century 
and I  was of the opinion then that an email client should be limited to (stay 
focussed on) email. Times have changed.

I support the idea of a calendar, and I would like the option to synch it with 
my Google calendar. Just my 2 cents worth.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[MAU]

Hello Gleason,

> My  opinion:  Email  clients have better things to do than try to be
> pim's  or calendars. Email clients that try to provide other complex
> features  often  end up not doing any of them really well. Sometimes
> the  old  linux  idea  of  doing one thing and doing it really well,
> applies.

I fully agree with you.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Gleason]

Alto,

> Hello,


>> We have also changed plans about the calendar which is going to be a major 
>> addition and decided to postpone its release to the second half of this year.

> Pity about the delay, but looking forward to that! Will it be possible to 
> sync to CalDav online calendars, and will it be possible to send/accept 
> meeting invitations? That sure would be a killer feature!

It would be a "me too" feature.  Maybe new ideas in email handling have run out?

My opinion:  Email clients have better things to do than try to be pim's or 
calendars.  
Email clients that try to provide other complex features often end up not doing 
any of them really well.
Sometimes the old linux idea of doing one thing and doing it really well, 
applies.

I, for instance, need to switch to emclient or postbox if I need to do a search 
on a server imap folder
that has some thousands of stored email.  TB simply doesn't find the matches.  
TB, on the other hand, doesn't spend
huge amounts of time indexing imap folders, which is good.  Maybe there isn't a 
solution for this.  Which means
that if somebody could actually solve it, how wonderful.

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hello,


> We have also changed plans about the calendar which is going to be a major 
> addition and decided to postpone its release to the second half of this year.

Pity about the delay, but looking forward to that! Will it be possible to sync 
to CalDav online calendars, and will it be possible to send/accept meeting 
invitations? That sure would be a killer feature!


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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Ethan J. Mings]

Hello Stefan,

Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:26:25 AM, you wrote:

> We also have some other developments going in parallel, but it's too soon to 
> announce them now, I guess :-)

> Please stay tuned!

Thanks for the update.

This great news and I look forward to further beta testing.

Jerry
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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 12:26:25, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> We also have some other developments going in parallel, but it's too soon to 
> announce them now, I guess :-)

Hopefully one of them is image download manager that's been missing since the 
switch to CEF :)

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Re: Update on the Beta work for The Bat

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Ethan, 

> Just checking in to see if there will another beta for the The Bat.

Yeah,  there definitely will be one soon as we are preparing it. As I said here 
after the 9.3.3 release, we are going to replace the HTML editor component, 
this requires quite an effort as it uses a completely different approach 
comparing to the old editor...

We have also changed plans about the calendar which is going to be a major 
addition and decided to postpone its release to the second half of this year.

We also have some other developments going in parallel, but it's too soon to 
announce them now, I guess :-)

Please stay tuned!

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