Re: 9.2.1.2 MailTicker

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 11 July 2020 at 5:18:31 PM, in
, MAU wrote:-


> That's reasonable.  

I've added a Wish to the issue tracker.
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2055


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Re: 9.2.1.2 MailTicker

[MAU]

Hello MFPA,

>> However,  if  you  are only interested in the unread count, that is
>> only shown once al the messages have scrolled.
>
> I would prefer for the Mail Ticker's unread mail count to be shown on
> a non-scrolling fragment at one end.

That's reasonable.


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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 10 July 2020 at 6:08:02 AM, in
, Alexander Petrari wrote:-


> The Menu Navigator and Inbox Analyzer have been
> removed from the program starting with v9.2.1.2.  

I never understood the point of the Inbox Analyzer. 

On the other hand, the Menu Navigator was a great tool. Not needed
often, but a real time-saver on the odd occasions I needed it.

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Re: 9.2.1.2 MailTicker

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 10 July 2020 at 10:49:05 AM, in
, MAU wrote:-

> But  it  doesn't  need to be 'Always on top'.

And if it is, you can shrink it to quite a small size and put it in an 
unobtrusive position on the screen.



> However, if you are only
> interested  in  the  unread  count,  that  is  only 
> shown once al the
> messages have scrolled.  

I would prefer for the Mail Ticker's unread mail count to be shown on
a non-scrolling fragment at one end.

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Re: 9.2.1.2 Number of unread messages

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Marek,

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:47:49 +0200 GMT (10-Jul-20, 21:47 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

>> The point here is that he gets a tooltip showing the number of unread
>> messages when hovering over the flapping Bat, and I don't. Do you?

> do You mean Systray or Task Bar? I see it in Systray.

I mean the taskbar. I do not have TB is the Systray.

But it's not really important. It's just a little toy gadget I find
neat.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Marek Mikus]

Hi, 

> The point here is that he gets a tooltip showing the number of unread
> messages when hovering over the flapping Bat, and I don't. Do you?

do You mean Systray or Task Bar? I see it in Systray.

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Re: 9.2.1.2 MailTicker

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:49:05 +0200 GMT (10-Jul-20, 16:49 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

>> Yes, but the MaiTicker itself will run accross my screen when I am
>> concentrating on something else.

> But  it  doesn't  need to be 'Always on top'. However, if you are only
> interested  in  the  unread  count,  that  is  only  shown once al the
> messages have scrolled.

I have now released it from "Hide" to "Automatically".

Also, I have taken the tickmark off [ ] Always on Top.

Let's see what happens next.


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Re: 9.2.1.2 MailTicker

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> Yes, but the MaiTicker itself will run accross my screen when I am
> concentrating on something else.

But  it  doesn't  need to be 'Always on top'. However, if you are only
interested  in  the  unread  count,  that  is  only  shown once al the
messages have scrolled.


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Re: 9.2.1.2 MailTicker

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:54:45 +0200 GMT (10-Jul-20, 15:54 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

>> No, I don't. I find it irritating and disruptive. Personal taste, I
>> know. Is that the reason why I don't see the number of unread
>> messages?

> MailTicker  only  counts  unread  messages  in  folders that have been
> marked  to display unread messages in MailTicker, which is the default
> when creating a new folder.

Yes, but the MaiTicker itself will run accross my screen when I am
concentrating on something else. That's why I turned it off.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> I have a much better (for me) solution for the same problem (I call it
> "still needs reply", but the same can be used for "for work later"):
>
> I "flag" messages that still need to be replied. And I have a virtual
> folder that shows all flagged messages. This way unread messages and
> messages that still need to be replied to don't get mixed up, and I
> have an easy count of flagged messages. If you use the flag for
> another purpose, you can use a colour code, for example.
>
> I have been using this method successfully for many years. It may be
> low-tech compared to the Mail Ticker, but simplicity is often more
> efficient.

That  is  right, with TB there are different ways to basically achieve
the  same.  Flags,  tags, colour groups, virtual folders, filters or a
mix of them.

I  personally  have  used  the  following  setup for many years. I use
SmartSpace  (https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/tips-and-tricks/3961/)
for  reading  messages, and also some Read filters. If I want to keep,
mark  somehow,  etc.  a  message  as  "Action- Reply" I flag it before
hitting  Space  bar  and  then  a  Read  filter  will  move  it  to my
"Action-Reply"  folder.  Then  I have a virtual subfolder called "Must
Reply" that will display messages in "Action Reply" older than 10 days
and which 'Message attributes" is 'not replied'.

Then  I  use  'Replied  filters'  to  move the messages to appropriate
folder, if needed.

It may seem a bit awkward, but has worked for me for many years.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> No, I don't. I find it irritating and disruptive. Personal taste, I
> know. Is that the reason why I don't see the number of unread
> messages?

MailTicker  only  counts  unread  messages  in  folders that have been
marked  to display unread messages in MailTicker, which is the default
when creating a new folder.


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Re: 9.2.1.2 / Menu Navigator

[Thomas Fernandez]

Title: Re: 9.2.1.2 / Menu Navigator


Hello George,

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:00:31 +0300 GMT (10-Jul-20, 15:00 +0700 GMT),
George Salnik wrote:





Up!

And I use it in additional Menu Navigator for find it where a feature for find where to create shortcut. Without Menu Navigator customers will stuck in many features that can't find at glance. Even I, 20+ years your customer can't remember all the places where features/commands/shortcuts live in TB! Please do come back of Menu Navigator!


GS>> I can't add menu navigator button to the toolbar. What the hell? How to return back menu navigator?


> The Menu Navigator and Inbox Analyzer have been removed from the program starting with v9.2.1.2.




I agree with you, George, I think the Menu Navigator was a great tool.

@Stefan: What is the reason for removing it?

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Fwd: Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

Up!

And I use it in additional Menu Navigator for find it where a feature for find 
where to create shortcut. Without Menu Navigator customers will stuck in many 
features that can't find at glance. Even I, 20+ years your customer can't 
remember all the places where features/commands/shortcuts live in TB! Please do 
come back of Menu Navigator! 


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This is abnormal to delete great features! Menu Navigator helps to not search 
through menu exact feature that you need now. Please return it! Don't kill 
great things!


Âû ïèñàëè 10 èþëÿ 2020 ã., 8:08:02:
> Hello,

GS>> I can't add menu navigator button to the toolbar. What the hell? How to 
return back menu navigator?


> The Menu Navigator and Inbox Analyzer have been removed from the program 
> starting with v9.2.1.2.



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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

This is abnormal to delete great features! Menu Navigator helps to not search 
through menu exact feature that you need now. Please return it! Don't kill 
great things!


Вы писали 10 июля 2020 г., 8:08:02:
> Hello,

GS>> I can't add menu navigator button to the toolbar. What the hell? How to 
return back menu navigator?


> The Menu Navigator and Inbox Analyzer have been removed from the program 
> starting with v9.2.1.2.



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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

Yes, this is good idea - please sync mail-ticker and badge counters. 


Вы писали 9 июля 2020 г., 20:57:58:
> Hello MFPA,

>> To me, it would make sense for the new message counter to follow the
>> same folder settings and age limits as the Mail Ticker.

> That seems reasonable. Just display de unread count in the MailTicker.
> That way, George Salnik could easily achieve what he requests in his
>  and
> 




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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

This is just not a same features. Badge is usual feature for messaging soft in 
nowadays. 


Вы писали 9 июля 2020 г., 20:50:49:
> Hello George,

>> Badge is not stupid.

> It seems so to me.

>> Mail-ticker isn't useful now, old toy.

> Yes,  it  is  old.  But I can't accept it isn't useful. Actually, much
> more useful than the "stupid" badge.



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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Assad,

> I have same problem with pop. Happens mainly with HTML messages.

I had mentioned a similar issue before. It also happens if you activate the
new search in a HTML mail, the mail disappears into the background.

https://abload.de/img/tb-v9-annoying-searchfmkil.gif

https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2041

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:52:48 +0200 GMT (09-Jul-20, 22:52 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello George,

>> I  have few folders with unread messages that "for work later" and I
>> don't want to have this messages counting in badge and don't want to
>> have  them marked as read. Please add in the folder settings feature
>> "not  count  unread messages in the badge" when you will have a time
>> for it. Thanks.

> To  achieve  that  distinction, why don't you take advantage of a much
> greater feature of TB than the new badge, and that has been around for
> a  long  time? The Mail-Ticker. That is a great feature of TB, and not
> the 'stupid' Badge.

I have a much better (for me) solution for the same problem (I call it
"still needs reply", but the same can be used for "for work later"):

I "flag" messages that still need to be replied. And I have a virtual
folder that shows all flagged messages. This way unread messages and
messages that still need to be replied to don't get mixed up, and I
have an easy count of flagged messages. If you use the flag for
another purpose, you can use a colour code, for example.

I have been using this method successfully for many years. It may be
low-tech compared to the Mail Ticker, but simplicity is often more
efficient.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:54:04 +0200 GMT (09-Jul-20, 22:54 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello Miroslav,

>> So for me the feature is useless.

> I think it is useless for most people.

It's a nice toy for geeks. I love this stuff.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Marek,

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:10:30 +0200 GMT (09-Jul-20, 22:10 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

> Guys,
> no  offense, but Windows 7? Really in 2020? I have used them too, but
> it  was  discontinued  5  years ago and there are no security updates
> either.

The point here is that he gets a tooltip showing the number of unread
messages when hovering over the flapping Bat, and I don't. Do you?

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:56:51 +0200 GMT (09-Jul-20, 22:56 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 I do not have the pop-up stating how many new messages there are!
 Where/how do I activate that?
>>
>>> if you move the mouse over the icon, the popup appears, see also animated 
>>> GIF.
>>
>> Not here. I get a thumbnail of the TB window(s), as is standard for
>> Win10. Is it a Windows setting I am missing?

> Don't tell me you don't use the Mail-Ticker.

No, I don't. I find it irritating and disruptive. Personal taste, I
know. Is that the reason why I don't see the number of unread
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[mse]

Hello Assad,

AB> I have problem with message windows since v.9.2 I use IMAP 4.
AB> Opening message window it opens for a millisecond on the front and
AB> after goes to the back under other windows. I installed a fresh
AB> copy of TB on another machine but I have the same behaviour.
AB> Clearing cache helps for a while but it still appears twice, first
AB> a flash and then sometimes on top (10%) sometimes under other
AB> opened windows (90%). Switching to last v.9.1.18.2 helps, works
AB> normally. Any idea what is going on?

AB> I have same problem with pop. Happens mainly with HTML messages.

I have opened a few dozen mails; my experience:
- I see no difference between an IMAP and a POP-account
- mail window sent to background never happens with text mails
- mail window sent to background sometimes happens with HTML mails. I 
have a feeling that it correlates with the time it takes to open the 
mail viewer window. If it opens right away, it stays in the 
foreground. If it takes bit (half a second) it moves to the 
background.

So, confirmed.

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Re:9.2.1.2

[Assad Baroot]

Title: Re:9.2.1.2


Hello Michal,
   
On Thursday, 9 July 2020, Michal Lewinski wrote and made these points
on the subject of "9.2.1.2":





I have problem with message windows since v.9.2 I use IMAP 4. Opening message window it opens for a millisecond on the front and after goes to the back under other windows. I installed a fresh copy of TB on another machine but I have the same behaviour. Clearing cache helps for a while but it still appears twice, first a flash and then sometimes on top (10%) sometimes under other opened windows (90%). Switching to last v.9.1.18.2 helps, works normally. Any idea what is going on?




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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Michal Lewinski]

Title: Re: 9.2.1.2


I have problem with message windows since v.9.2 I use IMAP 4.

Opening message window it opens for a millisecond on the front and after goes to the back under other windows. I installed a fresh copy of TB on another machine but I have the same behaviour. Clearing cache helps for a while but it still appears twice, first a flash and then sometimes on top (10%) sometimes under other opened windows (90%).
Switching to last v.9.1.18.2 helps, works normally.
Any idea what is going on?

regards
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Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 9:12:23 PM, you wrote:

STvT> New version 9.2.1.2 is available for test ;-)

STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x32-full-test.7z
STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x64-full-test.7z

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STvT> [*] Separate animation options for taskbar and tray icons
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello MFPA,

> To me, it would make sense for the new message counter to follow the
> same folder settings and age limits as the Mail Ticker.

That seems reasonable. Just display de unread count in the MailTicker.
That way, George Salnik could easily achieve what he requests in his
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello George,

> Badge is not stupid.

It seems so to me.

> Mail-ticker isn't useful now, old toy.

Yes,  it  is  old.  But I can't accept it isn't useful. Actually, much
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello George,

> Mail-Ticker is useless! That's just info-ticker without reactions.

What  reactions  do  you  get  with badge counter? With Ticker you can
click on an specific unread message and go to it. What can you do with
your 'magic' badge counter?

> Why  don't  I  can't  press on message in the ticker and choose some
> things for that message as
> - mark as read
> - answer
> - answer to all
> - forward
> - etc

That may be a reasonable request for enhancement.

> Mail-ticker now just a toy.

Which does, or allows you to do, much more than just a tiny counter.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 9 July 2020 at 12:30:53 PM, in
, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:-


> We're considering this, although the general approach
> is not to add
> new options and try to figure reasonable defaults...  

To me, it would make sense for the new message counter to follow the
same folder settings and age limits as the Mail Ticker.


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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

Badge is not stupid. This thing is useful for smartphone users (all 
email/messengers have it counters on the icon) and goes here this is useful 
feature, just as counter. I do like it badge, and not use it mailticker 
nowadays, just have it special unread virtual folder for it. But when TB! isn't 
on focus - badge is good, let's this feature will be alive.

Mail-ticker isn't useful now, old toy. See my another thoughts about 
mail-ticker in other my answer. Needs to do interactive mail-ticker with 
answer/forward/etc commands when you press on the email that on mail-ticker. 


Вы писали 9 июля 2020 г., 18:52:48:
> Hello George,

>> I  have few folders with unread messages that "for work later" and I
>> don't want to have this messages counting in badge and don't want to
>> have  them marked as read. Please add in the folder settings feature
>> "not  count  unread messages in the badge" when you will have a time
>> for it. Thanks.

> To  achieve  that  distinction, why don't you take advantage of a much
> greater feature of TB than the new badge, and that has been around for
> a  long  time? The Mail-Ticker. That is a great feature of TB, and not
> the 'stupid' Badge.




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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

Mail-Ticker is useless! That's just info-ticker without reactions. 
Why don't I can't press on message in the ticker and choose some things for 
that message as
- mark as read
- answer
- answer to all
- forward
- etc
As I can do such thing with popup emails on Android or iOS

Mail-ticker now just a toy. Please what I say at top of this message, burn for 
us mail-ticker again! 


Вы писали 9 июля 2020 г., 18:52:48:
> Hello George,

>> I  have few folders with unread messages that "for work later" and I
>> don't want to have this messages counting in badge and don't want to
>> have  them marked as read. Please add in the folder settings feature
>> "not  count  unread messages in the badge" when you will have a time
>> for it. Thanks.

> To  achieve  that  distinction, why don't you take advantage of a much
> greater feature of TB than the new badge, and that has been around for
> a  long  time? The Mail-Ticker. That is a great feature of TB, and not
> the 'stupid' Badge.




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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

>>> I do not have the pop-up stating how many new messages there are!
>>> Where/how do I activate that?
>
>> if you move the mouse over the icon, the popup appears, see also animated 
>> GIF.
>
> Not here. I get a thumbnail of the TB window(s), as is standard for
> Win10. Is it a Windows setting I am missing?

Don't tell me you don't use the Mail-Ticker.


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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello Miroslav,

> So for me the feature is useless.

I think it is useless for most people.


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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello George,

> I  have few folders with unread messages that "for work later" and I
> don't want to have this messages counting in badge and don't want to
> have  them marked as read. Please add in the folder settings feature
> "not  count  unread messages in the badge" when you will have a time
> for it. Thanks.

To  achieve  that  distinction, why don't you take advantage of a much
greater feature of TB than the new badge, and that has been around for
a  long  time? The Mail-Ticker. That is a great feature of TB, and not
the 'stupid' Badge.


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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

I can't add menu navigator button to the toolbar. What the hell? How to return 
back menu navigator?


Вы писали 8 июля 2020 г., 22:12:23:
> New version 9.2.1.2 is available for test ;-) 

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x32-full-test.7z
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x64-full-test.7z

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x32-test.7z
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x64-test.7z

> Changes:

> [+] Taskbar icon badge for unread messages 
> [*] Separate animation options for taskbar and tray icons
> [-] Rearrangement of Toolbar/menu items was not properly stored
> [-] Search text box for additional windows was popping over the
> main window Remove DevExpress source
> [-] Manual HTML images download was switching active tabs in preview pane




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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Marek Mikus]

Hi Paul,

MM>> Guys,
MM>> no  offense, but Windows 7? Really in 2020? I have used them too, but 
MM>> it  was  discontinued  5  years ago and there are no security updates 
MM>> either.

> I  run  a  multi-million  dollar  business on win 98...   Wine, beef and
> cheese  improve  with  age...   Because I am 78 years old I can't do the
> same things I did 10 years ago??

OK, do what You want, I have some floppy discs and LPT ports if You want ;-)

But  regarding  to The Bat!, it should fully support present OS, not 
archaic one.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Marek Mikus]

Guys, 
no  offense, but Windows 7? Really in 2020? I have used them too, but 
it  was  discontinued  5  years ago and there are no security updates 
either.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Martin]

Hi list

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 4:27:21 PM you wrote:

There must be still a problem with tool bar options which isn't
correctly stored.

The bar over here is messed up now.


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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Stefan,

> I see only  tray icons, what about the taskbar icon?

you are right, the counter is shown in the taskbar - I don't use the taskbar 
display.

» https://abload.de/img/tb-v9-counter_big-icouokmc.gif

The Windows theme doesn't matter either, you may not select the option of the 
small icons.
But the system tray still doesn't show a counter.

So for me the feature is useless. I always use small icons, and always leave 
the taskbar display hidden.
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Thomas,

> Win10. Is it a Windows setting I am missing?

I'am with Windows 7.
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Miroslav,

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:14:58 +0200 GMT (09-Jul-20, 21:14 +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

>> I do not have the pop-up stating how many new messages there are!
>> Where/how do I activate that?

> if you move the mouse over the icon, the popup appears, see also animated GIF.

Not here. I get a thumbnail of the TB window(s), as is standard for
Win10. Is it a Windows setting I am missing?

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Miroslav, 

I see only  tray icons, what about the taskbar icon?

> I changed the theme back to the default Windows 7 theme.
> Furthermore I have deactivated the option of small icons.
> No change - see GIF
> »  https://abload.de/img/tb-v9-no-counter_w7-tqgjin.gif


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Re:9.2.1.2

[Assad Baroot]

Hello Stefan,
   
On Wednesday, 8 July 2020, Stefan Tanurkov Via Tbbeta wrote and made
these points on the subject of "9.2.1.2":

> New version 9.2.1.2 is available for test ;-) 

Some  random messages when opened, get minimized automatically. Anyone having
this issue?

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Thomas,

> I do not have the pop-up stating how many new messages there are!
> Where/how do I activate that?

if you move the mouse over the icon, the popup appears, see also animated GIF.
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Stefan,

> As I see, themes are switched off in your Windows. Also, your
> taskbar uses small icons and this also would prevent showing the
> badge.

I changed the theme back to the default Windows 7 theme.
Furthermore I have deactivated the option of small icons.
No change - see GIF
»  https://abload.de/img/tb-v9-no-counter_w7-tqgjin.gif

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Miroslav,

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:57:52 +0200 GMT (09-Jul-20, 18:57 +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

>> Please send me a screenshot then. Thank you!

> User settings »  https://abload.de/img/tb_display-badgei0kq5.png

I haver the same setting under "when unread messages are foound": 3
tickmarks.

> Animated GIF from system tray  »
> https://abload.de/img/tb-v9-no-counter6ij6e.gif

I do not have the pop-up stating how many new messages there are!
Where/how do I activate that?

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Martin]

Hi The

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:24:51 PM you wrote:


> Hello Martin, 

>> Space problem on top when coming from minimised window still exist.

> Could you change your window and panel sizes a bit and see what happen please?

> If it doesn't have effect, please try to rename TBUser.DEF before starting 
> The Bat!

I renamed it - but the problem still exists. I am using OTFE - so
there is no TBUser.DEF but TBUser.EEF and I renamed this one.

Just noticed the the use of Pofile Layout isn't proberly stored -
sometimes it is lost after the next startup of TheBat!

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Miroslav, 

> User settings »  https://abload.de/img/tb_display-badgei0kq5.png
> Animated GIF from system tray  » 
> https://abload.de/img/tb-v9-no-counter6ij6e.gif

As I see, themes are switched off in your Windows. Also, your taskbar uses 
small icons and this also would prevent showing the badge.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

Здравствуйте, Stefan.

>> > The size of the overlay image is too small for that :-)
No. "+" is stay on this third digit place. :) 

> We're considering this, although the general approach is not to add
> new options and try to figure reasonable defaults...
I have few folders with unread messages that "for work later" and I don't want 
to have this messages counting in badge and don't want to have them marked as 
read. Please add in the folder settings feature "not count unread messages in 
the badge" when you will have a time for it. Thanks. 


Вы писали 9 июля 2020 г., 14:30:53:
> Hello George, 

>> What about to shows exact count to 999?

> The size of the overlay image is too small for that :-) Besides, is
> it really important to see the exact number when you have over 99 unread 
> messages? ;-)

>> What about to add in settings filter for this badge and exclude
>> some folders from counting of unread messages?

> We're considering this, although the general approach is not to add
> new options and try to figure reasonable defaults...




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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

>> What about to shows exact count to 999?
>
> The size of the overlay image is too small for that :-) Besides, is
> it really important to see the exact number when you have over 99 unread 
> messages? ;-)

Fully  agree  with  you  Stef. Let's concentrate in more important and
useful features.


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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hi Stefan,

> Please send me a screenshot then. Thank you!

User settings »  https://abload.de/img/tb_display-badgei0kq5.png
Animated GIF from system tray  »  
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Miroslav, 


> yes, of course - it was already activated at the first start.
> I also deactivated it once and restarted TB!, and then reactivated it.
> No change, the counter is missing.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Stefan,

> Do you have theme support switched on?

yes, of course - it was already activated at the first start.
I also deactivated it once and restarted TB!, and then reactivated it.
No change, the counter is missing.
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello George, 

> What about to shows exact count to 999?

The size of the overlay image is too small for that :-) Besides, is it really 
important to see the exact number when you have over 99 unread messages? ;-)

> What about to add in settings filter for this badge and exclude
> some folders from counting of unread messages?

We're considering this, although the general approach is not to add new options 
and try to figure reasonable defaults...


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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Martin, 

> Space problem on top when coming from minimised window still exist.

Could you change your window and panel sizes a bit and see what happen please?

If it doesn't have effect, please try to rename TBUser.DEF before starting The 
Bat!



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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA]

Hello Miroslav, 

> there is no display counter under Windows 7/64, tested with the 32bit
> and also with the 64bit version.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

win 10 Enterprise x64 it shows as 99+

What about to shows exact count to 999?

What about to add in settings filter for this badge and exclude some folders 
from counting of unread messages? 


Вы писали 9 июля 2020 г., 13:50:05:
> Hello Stefan,

>> [+] Taskbar icon badge for unread messages

> there is no display counter under Windows 7/64, tested with the 32bit
> and also with the 64bit version.

> --
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Stefan,

> [+] Taskbar icon badge for unread messages

there is no display counter under Windows 7/64, tested with the 32bit
and also with the 64bit version.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Martin]

Hi The

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:12:23 PM you wrote:

> New version 9.2.1.2 is available for test ;-) 

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x32-full-test.7z

Up and running.

Space problem on top when coming from minimised window still exist.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[George Salnik]

No, there is not. Antispam-sniper toolbar, for example, not stored deleted 
buttons after reopen TB! and shows again all buttons.


Вы писали 9 июля 2020 г., 13:32:09:
> Answering a  message (Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 21:12)

> Hello Stefan,

STvT>> [-] Rearrangement of Toolbar/menu items was not properly stored

> confirmed as fixed!



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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:12:23 +0300 GMT (09-Jul-20, 2:12 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote:

> New version 9.2.1.2 is available for test ;-)

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x64-test.7z

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> Changes:

> [-] Rearrangement of Toolbar/menu items was not properly stored

> [-] Manual HTML images download was switching active tabs in preview pane

Thanks; I'll play wiht these two over the next couple of days.

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Ethan J. Mings]

July 8, 2020

Hello Stefan,

Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 3:12:23 PM, you wrote:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x64-full-test.7z

Loaded and running.

Thank you.

Jerry

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Re: 9.2.1.2

[Richard Newman]

Hello Stefan,


STvT> New version 9.2.1.2 is available for test ;-) 
STvT> 
https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x64-full-test.7z
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Re: 9.2.1.2

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

> New version 9.2.1.2 is available for test ;-) 
>
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.1.2-x64-test.7z

Up & running.


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