SpamPal or K9?

Hi, I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do others think? -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Us

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

On Wed 29 September 2004, 8:18:07 +1000, Richard Wakeford wrote: > For the moment, you might like to look at PGPDisk - I think there > is still a free version of PGP which includes this Can anyone else > shed light on this?. I think the last version of PGP that had a free PGPDisk was v6.x. I was u

Re[3]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Michael, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 you wrote in MA> Anyway, if you get a chance to download PGP 8.1, you can update your MA> current version that way. Did it as soon as it came out. MA> And BTW, I have been using PGPDisk for many years also. It's a useful little program

Re[3]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Cristina, On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 you wrote in CR> After much fighting I ended up with two S/MIME certificates from Thawte CR> and InstantSSL :lol: and finally a PGP Key. I hope it's working. Gosh you did all that very quickly and efficiently. Very impressive 'cos it to

Re: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

Hi Allie Martin - On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, at 19:44:54 [GMT -0500] (which was 5:44 PM where I live) you wrote: > Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it > comes to auto-filtering. To say the least. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://key

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Roelof, Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 1:43:21 AM, you wrote: RO> I don't see a list footer on my messages on that thread, neither at RO> the bottom of the message nor as an attached text file. Are you sure RO> you don't see the yellow circle, after all that's the thread that got RO> Mica

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Richard, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:45:54 PM, you wrote: RW> Click on Help in your PGPKeys and it'll give the version. It's up to 8.1 RW> now. yup, I just downloaded 8.1 , I think I might have had a problem before, something about a firewall, but I got it this time.. PC>> and I've ne

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 8:45:17 PM, you wrote: PC>> but I SWEAR that circle is green ! RO> I believe you've already got that sorted out. ;-) yup, your message had a yellow checkmark and a green "?" ! -- Best regards, Paul _

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:52:32 PM, you wrote: > thank you Richard!!! > I may even read those, I've uninstalled & reinstalled my PGP setup a few > times, and I know I'm missing some key servers.. I know theres a LIST > somewhere :) > I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :) and I've never

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hallo Paul, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:59:08 -0400GMT (28-9-2004, 20:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO>> Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO>> it. PC> um, I know I'm colorblind, So am I. PC> but I SWEAR that circle is green ! I believe you've already got t

Re: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

Spam, [S] wrote: > I posted a message earlier about mail filtering on IMAP folders. I > am using The Bat! 3 and it seem as the mail filters only activate if > I click on the Inbox folder. The mail is still received as normally > and I get a "new mail" icon in the system tray. The problem is the >

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hallo Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:55:33 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 20:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR> I have one of your messages parked (TBOT about using the CR> %Language="ID" macro) and it has a yellow circle and no TXT file CR> attached; these 2 last messages have the footer attached a

Mod: Cut mark (was: need help please: why "?" in subject line in viewer window?)

Hallo Bin, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:36:06 -0700 (PDT)GMT (29-9-2004, 0:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: H8> Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: H8> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to

Re: need help please: why "?" in subject line in viewer window?

Hallo Bin, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:36:06 -0700 (PDT)GMT (29-9-2004, 0:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: H8> thank you, MAU, Roelof Otten, I don't know why, since you still didn't cancel your subscription. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 a

Re: Fed up with BayesIt

Hello Code2, On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C2> I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of C2> spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about C2> 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt C2>

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Paul, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 you wrote in PC> I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :) Click on Help in your PGPKeys and it'll give the version. It's up to 8.1 now. PC> and I've never tried PGPdisk.. Me neither, I use The Bat Private Disk. Works fine. -- Regards, Richard |

Re: How do I know BayesIT is learning anything?

Hi Marten, > I have a sneaking suspicion that although BayesIT is filtering, that > it isn't actually learning from messages subsequently not filterd but > then marked as junk. > How could I determine whether it IS in fact learning from these? One way is to look at the statistics BayesIt generat

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Richard, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 6:18:07 PM, you wrote: RW> Have a read of this for starters and I suggest joining pgp-users RW> newsgroup too, very friendly and that's where I learnt how to work it. thank you Richard!!! I may even read those, I've uninstalled & reinstalled my PGP set

Re[2]: need help please: why "?" in subject line in viewer window?

thank you, MAU, Roelof Otten, __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' informat

Re: Fed up with BayesIt

Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:51:47 PM, you wrote: C2> I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of C2> spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about C2> 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt C2> just can't d

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Cristina, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 6:03:16 PM, you wrote: PC>> do you have the keyservers setup to check it?? PC>> it only works if people put their keys on the keyservers OR they give PC>> you info in the headers on how to get their keys.. CR> Could you step by step it, please?:no

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Cristina, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 6:03:16 PM, you wrote: PC>> do you have the keyservers setup to check it?? PC>> it only works if people put their keys on the keyservers OR they give PC>> you info in the headers on how to get their keys.. CR> Could you step by step it, please?:no

Re[3]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 you wrote in CR> Could you step by step it, please? Have a read of this for starters and I suggest joining pgp-users newsgroup too, very friendly and that's where I learnt how to work it. This might help to direct your learning a bit -

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 10:18:55 PM, you wrote: PC> Hello Cristina, PC> Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:10:58 PM, you wrote: CR>> Now that you mention it, whenever I click that question mark a window CR>> opens saying it's an invalid signature (unknown signature format). Is CR>>

Re: Fed up with BayesIt

> I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of > spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about > 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt > just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it. Either way, > I'm not p

Fed up with BayesIt

I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it. Either way, I'm not prepared to inve

Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:55:01 +0200 (10:55 AM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote: > Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [27.9.2004, 3:40:43 PM]: >>> So, how to write filter which will append every message coming >>> in JUNK from account tesla to file spam.txt? >>> I've set up filter in Incoming mail for Commo

How do I know BayesIT is learning anything?

I have a sneaking suspicion that although BayesIT is filtering, that it isn't actually learning from messages subsequently not filterd but then marked as junk. How could I determine whether it IS in fact learning from these? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using T

Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

Hello everyone, I posted a message earlier about mail filtering on IMAP folders. I am using The Bat! 3 and it seem as the mail filters only activate if I click on the Inbox folder. The mail is still received as normally and I get a "new mail" icon in the system tray. The problem is the

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Cristina, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:10:58 PM, you wrote: CR> Now that you mention it, whenever I click that question mark a window CR> opens saying it's an invalid signature (unknown signature format). Is CR> it my configuration of The Bat or is it supposed to be like that? do you hav

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 9:48:01 PM, you wrote: PC> Hello Alexander, PC> Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote: ASK>> Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-) PC> maybe not.. ASK>> Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in

Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!

Just found someone else complaining about the length of time it's taking to switch a yahoo group to gmail, but someone else said it can often take 3 days. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Alexander, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote: ASK> Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the ASK> *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while ASK> the never mind, I answered my own question by going back and looking a

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Alexander, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote: ASK> Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-) maybe not.. ASK> Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the ASK> *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the

Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!

Hi subscriber2list, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 11:55:31 AM, you wrote: subscriber2list> Hello Doug, subscriber2list> Monday, September 27, 2004, 6:00:43 PM, you wrote: subscriber2list> DW>> I subscribe to 3 Yahoo groups on gmail and several other mailing lists. DW>> Your experience sounds

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Alexander, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:43:06 PM, you wrote: > Hello Michael Acklin & everyone else > 28-Sep-2004 21:24, you wrote: >> I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little >> mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of >>

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Michael Acklin & everyone else 28-Sep-2004 21:24, you wrote: > I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little > mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of > olive drab circle around it. Are you sure you're talking about the same thing

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 1:59:08 PM, you wrote: > Hello Roelof, > Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote: RO>> Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO>> it. > um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green ! > and it is

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Paul, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:59:08 PM, you wrote: PC> Hello Roelof, PC> Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote: RO>> Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO>> it. PC> um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green ! PC> a

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote: RO> Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in RO> it. um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green ! and it is always a question mark until I click on it and verify the PGP signature, is

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:24:52 PM, you wrote: RO> Hallo Cristina, RO> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: CR>> Ok, but the yellow circle doesn't appear consistently (I know there CR>> are mood swings lol ). I mean, thi

Re: need help please: why "?" in subject line in viewer window?

Hello Bin, > could any one tell me how to unsubscribe please? List-Unsubscribe: , -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0.19 __

Re: need help please: why "?" in subject line in viewer window?

Hallo Bin, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:10:17 -0700 (PDT)GMT (28-9-2004, 20:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: H8> could any one tell me how to unsubscribe please? http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.19 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack

Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Security newby and yellow circles)

Hallo Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR> Hello Roelof, Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't fe

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hallo Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR> Ok, but the yellow circle doesn't appear consistently (I know there CR> are mood swings lol ). I mean, this message you sent has a TXT file CR> attached as you mentioned, but no yellow cir

Re: need help please: why "?" in subject line in viewer window?

could any one tell me how to unsubscribe please? BW> Hello experts, BW> I am trying The Bat! Home Edition 3.0. Now I found a BW> problem. Some BW> e-mails are in Chinese. BW> In earlier versions, the subject line could show BW> Chinese characters in BW> viewer window as well as in message list w

Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Roelof, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:18:45 PM, you wrote: RO> Hallo Cristina, RO> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:14:38 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 15:14 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: CR>> Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. RO> Those are smileys, they're sent

Re: Complete Automatically Case sentitive

Hello expires30sept04, You got a name? On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:00:22 +0100 GMT (28/09/2004, 03:00 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eycu>>> using v2 autocomplete from the address books does not work at all [...] eycu> Testing, here <+> seems to cycle through the address book eycu> entries (i

Re: Russian/Cyrillic Signature File in The Bat! 3.0

David wrote: DMD> Because I send e-mail messages containing Russian/Cyrillic text, DMD> any e-mail client upon which I decide must support Cyrillic text. (skipped) DMD> My problem comes with my signature file, which is a few lines of DMD> Pushkin, in Russian. I have the signature file saved as a s

Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [27.9.2004, 3:40:43 PM]: >> So, how to write filter which will append every message coming in >> JUNK from account tesla to file spam.txt? >> I've set up filter in Incoming mail for Common folders, but it >> doesn't do its job. I've even set to add colour group, jus

Re: All message deleted by filter !

Hello Mica Mijatovic & everyone else 28-Sep-2004 14:27, you wrote: > Then, every time you check the mail, the Dispatcher will appear and will > show all messages you have on server, before you download them. There you > will see how your (selective download) filters have checked your mail. Inter

Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!

Hallo Roelof, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:25:52 +0200GMT (28-9-2004, 15:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO> When I switched addresses on this list (subscribing anew address and That should be 'tbot' instead of 'this list'. Before I'm getting into troubles with Johannes I'll add that the switching

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hallo Cristina, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:14:38 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 15:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR> Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. Those are smileys, they're sent along to show that the sender is in a good mood. :pulling-leg: CR> What does that me

Re: All message deleted by filter !

On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 12:23:48 PM, WilWilWil wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W> Can you explain me what is dispatcher and how to use it ? There's a simple walkthrough of Dispatcher on Marck's silverstones.com website. You can read it here: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/begi

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hi Cristina You wrote: > Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. > What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely > signing your messages? How do I do that? That little yellow circle with a checkmark indicates that the message has been s

Re: Security newby and yellow circles

Hello Cristina, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 8:14:38 AM, you wrote: > Hello all, > Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. > What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely > signing your messages? How do I do that? Hi Cristina, I believe y

Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!

Hallo subscriber2list, On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:55:31 -0400GMT (28-9-2004, 12:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: S> Yes, agree wholeheartedly ... BUT I've finally starting receiving S> messages from the yahoogroups I subscribed to. Odd thing though was S> the length of time it took for the proces

Security newby and yellow circles

Hello all, Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark. What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely signing your messages? How do I do that? -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugal :flag-portugal: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT!

Re: All message deleted by filter !

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 28 Sep 2004, @ @ at 13:23:48 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote: > ==Original message text=== > From: Mica Mijatovic > To: WilWilWil > Date: Monday, September 2

Re: All message deleted by filter !

Hello WilWilWil & everyone else 28-Sep-2004 13:23, you wrote: > You say Use Dispatcher. > Can you explain me what is dispatcher and how to use it ? Select the account you want to check, then from the "Account" menu, select "Dispatch mail on server -> All Messages" - this way you see which messa

Re[2]: All message deleted by filter !

==Original message text=== From: Mica Mijatovic To: WilWilWil Date: Monday, September 27, 2004, 3:03:26 PM Subject: All message deleted by filter ! >> That's the reason why I receive no maill from my friends since a week !!! MM> A week is a lot for noticing this. Use Disp

Re: What are these exe file in TB folder ?

At 11:58 [GMT+0200 (MEST)] on Tuesday September 28 (actual time - 5:58pm on Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] >> That is correct. The .cnt contains the help file's table of contents. >> The .gid file contains the index used when searching. I belive that >> both can be safel

Re: What are these exe file in TB folder ?

Hi Chris! > That is correct. The .cnt contains the help file's table of contents. > The .gid file contains the index used when searching. I belive that > both can be safely deleted. No good idea to delete the .cnt as you will lose your content. The GID file is autogenerated and normally hidden. T

Re: The Bat! Scheduler

Hello Spam (again) & everyone else 27-Sep-2004 12:47, you wrote: > I have been testing The Bat! 3.0 for 14 days now. There are some things > that do not seem to work. For example the Scheduler. I have entered some > recurring dates that I needed to be reminded of but The Bat! did not warn > me wh