PGP and S/Mime Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Darrin
Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:02:31 PM Hi, When I create a new email, under PRIVACY tab on top ENABLE S/MIME is always checked. It doesnt work for me. I uncheck it then it by default is checked again once I create a new email. How do I correct this? Thanks -- Darrin

Re: PGP and S/Mime Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Darrin, @30-Oct-2003, 16:04 -0800 (31-Oct 00:04 UK time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: D Hi, When I create a new email, under PRIVACY tab on top ENABLE D S/MIME is always checked. ... How do I correct this? Change it in Account properties | Options. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D

Re[2]: PGP and S/Mime Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Darrin
Hi Marck, On Thursday at 5:28 PM you wrote (or at least in part): MDP Change it in Account properties | Options. Perfect! I I knew it had to be simple. Thanks -- Darrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat 2.01.3 E=Mc^5...nahhh...E=Mc^4...nahh...E=Mc^3...ah, forget it!

Re: PGP or S/MIME

2002-12-16 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Scott! On Monday, December 16, 2002 at 3:15:44 AM you wrote: DH My own position is, we should all sign all our messages and even DH encrypt it. I am not the one to tell others what is important or not. I would never tell others what they have to do, but if it ever comes to this point,

PGP or S/MIME

2002-12-15 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Scott! On Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 10:48:30 AM you wrote: Don't get me wrong...I see the point of signing and certificates when dealing with sensitive data and important Emails, but here? My own position is, we should all sign all our messages and even encrypt it. I am not the one

Re: PGP or S/MIME

2002-12-15 Thread Scott Johnson
Dierk, DH My own position is, we should all sign all our messages and even DH encrypt it. I am not the one to tell others what is important or not. I would never tell others what they have to do, but if it ever comes to this point, where everyone *must* sign and encrypt, then you won't see my

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Nick Andriash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Greg Strong, On Sunday, April 28 2002 at 09:59 PM PDT, you wrote: I was installing WinPT. In the PDF file for the install it refers to OpenPGP that I believe is GPG No... OpenPGP is a standard which GPG... and PGP... are supposed to

Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Nick, Monday, April 29, 2002, 1:49:15 AM, you wrote: NA Yes, you are right... you can have seamless on the fly signing NA with PGP because there are specific PGP DLL's that TB uses for NA that... RITLabs have developed a Plugin specifically for that NA purpose. Hopefully, the upcoming

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, @29 April 2002, 23:49:15 -0700 (07:49 UK time) Nick Andriash wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To my knowledge I have to use the Tray windows application to manually sign messages when using GPG. True, but you can use

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote: ... Yes, you are right... you can have seamless on the fly signing with PGP because there are specific PGP DLL's that TB uses for that... RITLabs have developed a Plugin specifically for that purpose. Hopefully,

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, April 29, 2002, 5:49 AM, you wrote: I'm new to both TB and PGP. Would it be any better to install gpg ? would I gain/lose any TB capabilitites using gpg over PGP6.5.8 ? thanks, MDP Not true, actually Nick. I use GPG without any tray

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote: ... PC I'm new to both TB and PGP. Would it be any better to install gpg PC ? would I gain/lose any TB capabilitites using gpg over PGP6.5.8 ? Using either GnuPG or PGP will not affect TB!'s capabilities. If you're

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @29 April 2002, 07:51:38 -0400 (12:51 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm new to both TB and PGP. Would it be any better to install gpg ? would I gain/lose any TB capabilitites using gpg over

Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Greg Strong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, Monday, April 29, 2002, 6:12:18 AM, you wrote: ACM Indeed the signing and signature verification aspects work nicely. I ACM don't use GPG Shell for signing messages *at all*. However, for ACM decryption and encryption I use GPG Shell.

Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Greg Strong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, Monday, April 29, 2002, 4:49:05 AM, you wrote: MDP Not true, actually Nick. I use GPG without any tray application. I MDP only use the try tools to access the key manager and lookup keys I MDP don't have on my keyring. All

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Strong [GS] wrote: ... ACM Indeed the signing and signature verification aspects work ACM nicely. I don't use GPG Shell for signing messages *at all*. ACM However, for decryption and encryption I use GPG Shell. GS Great! How do I make it work?

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-29 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Greg, @29 April 2002, 11:50:13 -0500 (17:50 UK time) Greg Strong wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP It already exists and works just as well as PGP. How do I make it work? THANKS! Use the Tools | OpenPGP | Choose OpenPGP

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-28 Thread Colin Grant
8 On Saturday, April 27, 2002, 23:57, you wrote That's however besides the point when you're in need of an immediately workable solution and not one that will work if and when you manage to get all other parties involved to install and learn how to use PGP. MAU That's one of

Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-28 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Allie, Saturday, April 27, 2002, 2:11:35 PM, you wrote: ACM It's not a question of the need being there since he has decided ACM to use one solution. It's a matter of which is the more ACM appropriate under the circumstances. Can you use either method depending upon the individual

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-28 Thread Allie C Martin
with OE and other S/MIME compliant clients? You can use S/MIME and PGP interchangeably but where ever the opportunity presents itself, I think you should go for PGP. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | ®TB! v1.60c | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2

Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-28 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Allie, Sunday, April 28, 2002, 1:58:08 PM, you wrote: ACM You can use S/MIME and PGP interchangeably but where ever the ACM opportunity presents itself, I think you should go for PGP. I would agree. You have to be able to communicate with whomever under whatever is agreed upon between

Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-28 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Allie, Sunday, April 28, 2002, 1:58:08 PM, you wrote: ACM I'd always use PGP/GnuPG if I could help it. I was installing WinPT. In the PDF file for the install it refers to OpenPGP that I believe is GPG (i.e. same as GnuPG at http://www.gnupg.org/). What functionality specifically does

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-27 Thread Colin Grant
8 On Saturday, April 27, 2002, 00:17, you wrote ACM Today, you'll have to install a stand alone copy of one of the later ACM versions of PGP or GnuPG in order to meaningfully use it. It's really ACM not that hard to use, especially PGP 6.5.8 and above. Yes but what is the point if

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-27 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Colin! On Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 9:00:02 AM you wrote: Yes but what is the point if all the business contacts I e-mail don't use PGP in any form. How can they check my sig etc? That's more of a conceptual problem. I usually sign *all* messages with PGP, if people use it, they

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-27 Thread Dierk Haasis
, the Introduction to PGP by Phil Zimmermann (you can get it on the Internet for free). And then you have to make up your mind - either use it or not. BTW, TB! offers the solution to use signing and encrypting (either with PGP or S/MIME) selectively - defined through macros in templates, or manually from menu

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-27 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Colin Grant [CG] wrote: ... ACM Today, you'll have to install a stand alone copy of one of the later ACM versions of PGP or GnuPG in order to meaningfully use it. It's really ACM not that hard to use, especially PGP 6.5.8 and above. CG Yes but what

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-27 Thread Colin Grant
8 On Saturday, April 27, 2002, 13:31, you wrote ACM If you can't make the tool simple to use then no one will use it ACM especially if it isn't a tool that is perceived as terribly important. ACM As soon as the typical user meets PGP, they don't wish to learn about ACM it because of

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-27 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, April 27, 2002, at 6:54:34 AM PST, Colin Grant wrote: First, Allie wrote: As soon as the typical user meets PGP, they don't wish to learn about it because of the learning curve ... the usual response... 'Why learn all this stuff

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-27 Thread Allie C Martin
to authenticate your identity through mail that's being sent to people who *do not* use PGP, what's the point of the PGP signature. An S/MIME one would work though since the main stream clients support it out of the box and the message is auto-verified without the users intervention. Yes, I know about

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-27 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Allie, That's however besides the point when you're in need of an immediately workable solution and not one that will work if and when you manage to get all other parties involved to install and learn how to use PGP. That's one of the reasons why I'll go S/MIME, so I don't have to

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-26 Thread Colin Grant
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:59:09 +0100, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @24 April 2002, 19:18:00 +0200 (18:18 UK time) Miguel A. Urech wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any quick and brief explanation/opinion will be appreciated.

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-26 Thread Colin Grant
8 On Friday, April 26, 2002, 18:58, you wrote DH . You are right, other than with S/MIME, PGP has to be installed on DH both the senders and the recipients computer. What about that lets DH you shy away? The answer quite simply is that in the scheme of things hardly anybody uses PGP

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-26 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Colin! On Friday, April 26, 2002 at 7:14:47 PM you wrote: Is not also true that for PGP to be of any use the recipient must have PGP installed also? Else they cannot decode/check signature. It is this aspect that makes me shy away from PGP 1. You are right, other than with S/MIME

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-26 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Colin Grant [CG] wrote: ... CG For that reason alone I see s/mime as the preferred route, if CG indeed such a route is really necessary. Or am I missing something Yes. If you don't use PGP with others then S/MIME is better since you don't need a web

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-26 Thread Mrten
are right, other than with S/MIME, PGP has to be installed on both the senders and the recipients computer. What about that lets you shy away? I don't think that one can verify S/MIME signed messages when one uses elm as a mailer, right? Or am I mistaken? Did you mean it was integrated in Outlook

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-26 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mrten [M] wrote: ... M I don't think that one can verify S/MIME signed messages when one M uses elm as a mailer, right? Or am I mistaken? Did you mean it was M integrated in Outlook? (and now also in TB..) Yes. TB! will verify S/MIME signed messages

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-25 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Marck, Dierk, Allie, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: S/MIME tends to be simpler all round, but getting a certificate from a recognised authority can be a bit of a chore and there is a 3.5k(ish) overhead per signature. Dierk Haasis wrote: The difference between use of S/MIME and PGP

[SOT] PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-24 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello all, I know this may be SOT but, anyway, here it goes. The fact that I am one of those that, more or less seriously or joking, every now and then complains about the use of PGP signatures in this list, does not mean that I don't understand the usefulness and even need of PGP or S/MIME

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-24 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @24 April 2002, 19:18:00 +0200 (18:18 UK time) Miguel A. Urech wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any quick and brief explanation/opinion will be appreciated. S/MIME tends to be simpler all round, but getting a

Re: [SOT] PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-24 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Miguel! On Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 7:18:00 PM you wrote: Any quick and brief explanation/opinion will be appreciated. The difference between use of S/MIME and PGP is a conceptual one. S/MIME relies on a centralised signer (certificate issuer), PGP relies completely on what Phil

Re: PGP or S/MIME ?

2002-04-24 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote: ... MAU I am considering using PGP or S/MIME for some business MAU correspondence (obviously with TB) and, perhaps because I have MAU not read enough about either, it is not clear to me what are the MAU advantages