Re: Re[4]: Palm Synch

2002-04-15 Thread Roberto Machorro

Hi, thanks for your response.

Before I dive in to the subject, those that are looking at my e-mail header and 
wondering why I'm not using TB right now, the explanation is simple, I'm on the road, 
I hate laptops and use my Palm to do e-mail. Now back to the e-mail:

Heck, I'd pay for the feature of a nice synch with my Palm. I

Me too.

just posted my ugly way I have to synch now. (Going from the bat,
to a flat file, to yahoo, then from yahoo to the palm ). Even the

I tried that, too. But it isn't a real 'sync', it's just a transfer. I've tried all 
sorts of tricks and it just hasn't worked out (being a Linux user, I even thought of 
doing a frequent export of TB's AB, and using pilot-sync, doing a dump of the Palm's 
AB, diffing (diff) them out and showing me the differences and the manually applying 
them - Argh! -).

actually 'synch'. Basically all the above worked for was an
initial population of palm entries from the Bat.

That's right. It just hits my kidney to keep two listings with the same data, my most 
up-to-date one is the Address Book on the Palm since I have it always with me.

Yes, keep pestering ritlabs. I remember this was a complaint about

Just thought I should let you know that the CC I did of a previous mail on the thread, 
bounced back.

manager that would synch with the Palm. Maybe you could set up a
web page petition thing where people could post their desire for
such a feature?

I'm in the process of moving across the country, and then re-installing myself. If 
someone can begin doing that, I'll do my part of doing the conduit (did I mention that 
I'd do it for free?!?)


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Re: KNOWN Filter

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Carsten,

On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:13:57 -0400GMT (15-4-02, 5:13 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

CGS Why is an email with the follwing header not moved to my
CGS INBOX-KNOWN (Filter is active), though the email address
CGS thomaslundy@...com is in my address book?

Probably because it has triggered another filter.

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Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Per Goetterup

Is it possible to insert an extra header in ones outgoing mails using TB?
I've looked around but can't find anything.

I need to be able to add a header when sending to specific addresses or at
least when using a specific account. Can it be done?

Yours,
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The Bat remains in RAM

2002-04-15 Thread BlueStrike


Since yesterday The Bat (1.6c) acts strangely:

After ending The Bat, the program remains in RAM
and occupies between 92 and 96% of the CPU's
utilization time.

First i thought it is because it's cleaning up
folders or doing similar tasks, but this task
doesn't end until i am shutting it down by hand
via the Task Manager.

Even reinstalling didn't change anything.

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PGP adding a dash+space

2002-04-15 Thread Nathalie Marlier Seigneuret

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: MD5

Hello,

Thanks to the listmembers who sent some tips for using authentication
in The Bat!
Now that I have installed PGP and created my keys, I have a formatting
question.
It seems that PGP adds a dash + a space before lignes beginning with a
dash, which makes the dash dash space before a signature unusable,
as the email goes out with - --  instead.  (See below.)
- --
Best regards,
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Translation Services since 1979

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Per,

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:38:31 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 10:38 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

PG I need to be able to add a header when sending to specific addresses or at
PG least when using a specific account. Can it be done?

You can add comments-headers with the %comment macro.

%comment=This is a useless comment.

Will result in a header like this:

Comments: This is a useless comment.


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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Per Goetterup

Hello Luc,

15 Apr 2002, 11:08:06, you wrote:

  Good morning Per,
  
 It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 10:38:31 GMT+0200 (which was
 10:38:31 where I live) Per Goetterup wrote and spread these wise
 comments on Additional headers?:
  
 snipped a bit
PG Is it possible to insert an extra header in ones outgoing mails using TB?
PG I've looked around but can't find anything.

  I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for:
  COMMENT = text(adds a text comment RFC-822 header to a message)
  e.g.: %COMMENT=My maileditor is the best:The Bat!
  This will show up as an X header in the RFC-822

Some of the way I think... I need to be able add a very specific header like
this: X-NCC-RegID: ... Can that be done this way?

Yours,
Per Gøtterup

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Re: The Bat remains in RAM

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello BlueStrike,

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:54:30 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 10:54 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

B After ending The Bat, the program remains in RAM
B and occupies between 92 and 96% of the CPU's
B utilization time.

Is the connection centre still active?

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Re: Authenticating outgoing email

2002-04-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dierk,

@15 April 2002, 09:18:57 +0200 (08:18 UK time) Dierk Haasis wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

from the RITlabs FTP server (ftp://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat).

Oops! ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat

 Both betas are stable and usable without any hassle. Perhaps CKT's
 plugin for TB!/PGP will be optimised to get a bit smaller, but there
 seem to be no serious bugs in it. You can easily distinguish
 RITLab's plug-in from CKT's - the second one is round about double
 the size.

Seconded.

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good morning Per,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 11:22:17 GMT+0200 (which was
11:22:17 where I live) Per Goetterup wrote and spread these wise
comments on Additional headers?:
  
snipped a bit
PG Some of the way I think... I need to be able add a very specific header like
PG this: X-NCC-RegID: ... Can that be done this way?

 Yes, if you don't mind having the word comments added.

 I just tested it and this is how it looks:
Subject: test
Comments: X-NCC-RegID: 
MIME-Version: 1.0 
 
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Re[2]: The Bat remains in RAM

2002-04-15 Thread BlueStrike

Hello Roelof,

Am Montag, 15. April 2002 um 11:01 schrieben Sie:

RO Hello BlueStrike,

RO On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:54:30 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 10:54 +0200GMT, where
RO I live), you wrote:

B After ending The Bat, the program remains in RAM
B and occupies between 92 and 96% of the CPU's
B utilization time.

RO Is the connection centre still active?

Thanks for your quick reply.

Not that i could tell. If i wouldn't have checked the
task manager because my PC been totally blocked i wouldn't
know that thebat.exe is still running. There are no parts
visible also not the connection center.

Is it because of the MAPI integration? I have no clue at all.

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Re: PGP adding a dash+space

2002-04-15 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Nathalie!

On Monday, April 15, 2002 at 11:03:26 AM you wrote:

 Thanks to the listmembers who sent some tips for using authentication
 in The Bat!
 Now that I have installed PGP and created my keys, I have a formatting
 question.
 It seems that PGP adds a dash + a space before lignes beginning with a
 dash, which makes the dash dash space before a signature unusable,
 as the email goes out with - --  instead.  (See below.)

1. Uncheck the wrapping in PGP - TB! does it better if left alone (see
above).

2. Yes, PGP ads these characters to distinguish lines with dashes from
its own delimiting lines (for signature and encryption)

Do you use TB!'s internal PGP implementation or do you have a special
reason to use PGP 2.6.x?

Although there are still people refraining from later versions, up to
6.5.8 there is no reason (apart from some compatibility issues, I've
never encountered, and a slightly bigger overhead) to not use these
later improvements.


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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Per,

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:22:17 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 11:22 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

PG Some of the way I think... I need to be able add a very specific header like
PG this: X-NCC-RegID: ... Can that be done this way?

No, can't be done with TB.
When it's really necessary for you to insert that header, you could
write your message, save it in your outbox (don't send), export it as
*.msg, delete the copy in your outbox, edit the .msg with notepad,
import the message into your outbox (don't start editing with TB,
because TB will delete the inserted header) and send it.

Look into my headers, I've done it this way.
Just below the From-header.

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Per!

On Monday, April 15, 2002 at 11:22:17 AM you wrote:

 Some of the way I think... I need to be able add a very specific header like
 this: X-NCC-RegID: ... Can that be done this way?

Just use the %COMMENT macro in your template (new, reply, forward) and
define its argument. In your case the line looks like this:

   %COMMENT='X-NCC-Reg-ID: x'




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Re: The Bat remains in RAM

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello BlueStrike,

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:46:03 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 11:46 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

B After ending The Bat, the program remains in RAM
B and occupies between 92 and 96% of the CPU's
B utilization time.

RO Is the connection centre still active?
B Not that i could tell. If i wouldn't have checked the
B task manager because my PC been totally blocked i wouldn't
B know that thebat.exe is still running. There are no parts
B visible also not the connection center.

The reason I asked was that when the cc doesn't close TB won't stop
either.

B Is it because of the MAPI integration? I have no clue at all.

I've got no experience with MAPI. So I'm not sure whether that has
something to do with it.

I've got these questions:

Does the problem exist after you've rebooted your pc?

You mentioned reinstalling TB, did that include an uninstall of TB?

Do you remember what's the last thing you changed on your pc
(hardware, new software, different config) before TB started to refuse
quitting?

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Per Goetterup

Hello Roelof,

15 Apr 2002, 11:49:43, you wrote:

 Hello Per,

 On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:22:17 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 11:22 +0200GMT, where
 I live), you wrote:

PG Some of the way I think... I need to be able add a very specific header like
PG this: X-NCC-RegID: ... Can that be done this way?

 No, can't be done with TB.

Too bad... :-(

Yes, I need for it to be just like that.

 When it's really necessary for you to insert that header, you could
 write your message, save it in your outbox (don't send), export it as
 *.msg, delete the copy in your outbox, edit the .msg with notepad,
 import the message into your outbox (don't start editing with TB,
 because TB will delete the inserted header) and send it.

 Look into my headers, I've done it this way.
 Just below the From-header.

I see it.

Way, way too cumbersome... Thanks anyway.

I'd like to add this feature (add your own custom header) to the wishlist
then... :-)  Most other mailers I've used has this feature.

Yours,
Per Gøtterup

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good afternoon Roelof,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 11:49:43 GMT+0200 (which was
11:49:43 where I live) Roelof Otten wrote and spread these wise
comments on Additional headers?:
  
snipped a bit
RO Look into my headers, I've done it this way.
RO Just below the From-header.

 Just curious: what's the difference between having it as X:
 and Comment:..

 The result is the same: add additional info to the headers. Or am i
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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Luc,

On Monday, April 15, 2002 at 12:36:41 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

L  Just curious: what's the difference between having it as X:
L  and Comment:..

L  The result is the same: add additional info to the headers. Or am i
L  mistaken?

You are :-)

This headers seems to be necessary for software on recipients side to get
additional informations.
This software will parse the headers which are defined:

^Header-Field-Name: Content

So everything from beginning of a line 'til the colon is the name of the
header field, the rest is value.

So

Comment: X-NCC-RegID: This is a rather awkward way to insert headers!!!

Will, if headers are parsed to e.g. a hash, end up in

$HEADERS['Comment'] = X-NCC-RegID: This is a rather awkward way to insert headers!!!

while

X-NCC-RegID: This is a rather awkward way to insert headers!!!

would end up in

$HEADERS['X-NCC-RegID'] = This is a rather awkward way to insert headers!!!

If software tries to verify validity of a mail by looking for
$HEADERS['X-NCC-RegID'] it would not succeed with first solution.

The principle is the same as for e.g. 'From:' header: TB! is looking for a
header line

^From: ...

and not for 'From:' somewhere _within_ one header line do decide whom the
mail is from :-)

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good afternoon Peter,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 12:54:27 GMT+0200 (which was
12:54:27 where I live) Peter Palmreuther wrote and spread these wise
comments on Additional headers?:
  
snipped a bit
PP You are :-)

 I stand corrected :-)
 
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Re: Spell checker Office XP

2002-04-15 Thread Dieter Hummel

Good afternoon List Members,

On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 at 10:52:12 [GMT +0200] Tomasz2D wrote:

 In The Bat! 1.60c capable already to use Office XP spell checker
 dictionaries (SCAPI)?

No.  Microsoft  changed  their  policy to not let other apps use their
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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Luc,

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:36:41 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 12:36 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

L  Just curious: what's the difference between having it as X:
L  and Comment:..

L  The result is the same: add additional info to the headers. Or am i
L  mistaken?
 
X-NCC-RegID: is a standardized header (according to rfc822
user-defined headers have to start with X- )
In a network of trekkies an NCC-RegID would make sense and so would
the wish for formal headers.

When filtering on such a header it wouldn't make any difference for TB
whether it's a formal header or included in a comment, because you'd
filter on the presence of X-NCC-RegID: in the kludges. But when you're
running a mailing list that only allows messages with an X-NCC-RegID:
header it makes an essential difference. (No, I don't know why Per
thinks he needs it.)
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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Luc,

15. april 2002, 12:36:41, you wrote:

L  The result is the same: add additional info to the headers. Or am i
L  mistaken?

The difference is, that X-sth: abc is an X-header with value abc,
while Comment: X-sth: abc is Comment header with value X-sth: abc.
Apparently his server requires the presence of the exact X-sth header
(which Comment isn't).

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Per Goetterup

Hello Luc,

15 Apr 2002, 12:36:41, you wrote:

  Good afternoon Roelof,
  
 It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 11:49:43 GMT+0200 (which was
 11:49:43 where I live) Roelof Otten wrote and spread these wise
 comments on Additional headers?:
  
 snipped a bit
RO Look into my headers, I've done it this way.
RO Just below the From-header.

  Just curious: what's the difference between having it as X:
  and Comment:..

  The result is the same: add additional info to the headers. Or am i
  mistaken?

According to the service I'm trying to communicate with, I can specify the
information about my reference ID in two ways, either in the body of the
message or in the headers.

Now, adding it in the body causes some kind of problem with the automated
software that read my mails so it returns a failure despite it actually
accepts and responds to the commands and updates therein.

I therefore wanted to try the put-it-in-the-headers option in order to avoid
this pseudo-failure which wreaks havoc with the software in my end that needs
to acknowledge the successful change, which it doesn't because of the
(incorrect) failure report.

I will try to see if the %COMMENT thing works despite the odd formatting of
the header. I doubt it though.

Yours,
Per Gøtterup

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Per Goetterup

Hello Roelof,

15 Apr 2002, 13:10:59, you wrote:

 X-NCC-RegID: is a standardized header (according to rfc822
 user-defined headers have to start with X- )
 In a network of trekkies an NCC-RegID would make sense and so would
 the wish for formal headers.

Now, this doesn't have anything to do with Star Trek in any form... :-)

The acronym NCC in my case stands for Network Coordination Centre and I use
that header to communicate with RIPE NCCs database (and staff). RIPE is the
European IP authority, similar to ARIN in the US and APNIC in the Asia-Pacific
region. They're all regional parts of IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers
Authority).

 When filtering on such a header it wouldn't make any difference for TB
 whether it's a formal header or included in a comment, because you'd
 filter on the presence of X-NCC-RegID: in the kludges. But when you're
 running a mailing list that only allows messages with an X-NCC-RegID:
 header it makes an essential difference. (No, I don't know why Per
 thinks he needs it.)

I need it to reference which Local Internet Registry I represent whenever I
communicate, both when talking to automated services and to regular people.

And to get back on topic - I just tested it and their software requires the
exact header to be present so the comment thing won't work.

Yours,
Per Gøtterup

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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RO I don't know whether you're running your own mail-server, but some
RO of those can insert additional headers, with my own server it
RO would be a minor issue.

Indeed. With MDaemon here, I could add header lines easily.

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Per,

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:38:59 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 13:38 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

PG And to get back on topic - I just tested it and their software
PG requires the exact header to be present so the comment thing won't
PG work.

I don't know whether you're running your own mail-server, but some of
those can insert additional headers, with my own server it would be a
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Re: Spell checker Office XP

2002-04-15 Thread Michal Kozusznik

  In The Bat! 1.60c capable already to use Office XP spell checker
  dictionaries (SCAPI)?

 No.  Microsoft  changed  their  policy to not let other apps use their
 property.

So, is there any other way to get spell checking in TB! with latest
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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Per Goetterup

Hello Roelof,

15 Apr 2002, 14:03:53, you wrote:

 Hello Per,

 On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:38:59 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 13:38 +0200GMT, where
 I live), you wrote:

PG And to get back on topic - I just tested it and their software
PG requires the exact header to be present so the comment thing won't
PG work.

 I don't know whether you're running your own mail-server, but some of
 those can insert additional headers, with my own server it would be a
 minor issue.

Yes, we run our own mailserver (qmail) but in order to do something like that
we need to cut into the smtp-queue chain (not that easy) and create something
(script with a check of some kind) that ensures that we don't get that header
added to all the thousands of mails sent through it daily... Both all our
staff and our many customers use that mailserver.

What we really need for TB! is a hook for post-processing of mails prior to
queuing in the outbox (and thus prior to sending). Such a generic beastie
would open up for all sorts of nifty addons, from simple added headers to all
sorts of automated processing that certainly shouldn't be stuffed into TB!
even if a lot of people could find a use for it (no bloatware, thank you).

Yours,
Per Gøtterup

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Re: Spell checker Office XP

2002-04-15 Thread Michal Kozusznik

  In The Bat! 1.60c capable already to use Office XP spell checker
  dictionaries (SCAPI)?

 No.  Microsoft  changed  their  policy to not let other apps use their
 property.

So, is there any other way to get spell checking in TB! with latest
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Re: Spell checker Office XP

2002-04-15 Thread Jernej Simonèiè

Hello Michal,

15. april 2002, 14:29:13, you wrote:

 So, is there any other way to get spell checking in TB! with latest
 systems/software?

The Bat has it's own dictionaries for some languages.

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Per Goetterup

Hello Roelof,

15 Apr 2002, 14:48:07, you wrote:

 Indeed. With MDaemon here, I could add header lines easily.

PG Tell me more! :-)

 Check for instance for
 Comments: This is my secret code to get an X-NCC-RegID-header inserted
 You can add that even with TB. ;-)
 Delete it and insert
 X-NCC-RegID: 

It seems a bit excessive running a mailserver just to be able to add a single
header line...  Any other suggestions?

Yours,
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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@15 April 2002, 14:57:31 +0200 (13:57 UK time) Per Goetterup wrote in
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 It seems a bit excessive running a mailserver just to be able to add
 a single header line...  Any other suggestions?

X-Ray? Never used it myself but it is often mentioned here when it
comes to patching message headers

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread David Elliott

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Hail Per

On 15 April 2002 at 10:38:31 +0200 (which was 09:38 where I live) Per
Goetterup graced us with these comments

PG Is it possible to insert an extra header in ones outgoing mails using TB?
PG I've looked around but can't find anything.

PG I need to be able to add a header when sending to specific addresses or at
PG least when using a specific account. Can it be done?

I am coming a bit late in to this thread but the only line that is possible
with The Bat! is a comment line.

However if you get x-ray from http://www.xrayapp.com you can do it with
this.

In the last beta that I receiver there is a form of scripting language but I
have not tried it out.

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Re: Fentun

2002-04-15 Thread David Elliott

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Salutation Marek

On 14 April 2002 at 23:48:37 +0200 (which was 22:48 where I live) Marek
Mikus rearranged electrons to get

MM I created reg file for association DAT files with fentun. I attached
MM it. If You will change path to Fentun (default in reg file is C:\PROGRAM
MM FILES\FENTUN\FENTUN.EXE), please note - in *.REG files is needed
MM two backslashes instead one - C:\\PROGRAM FILES\\FENTUN\\FENTUN.EXE.

MM Please note: this file was created on Windows 98 and I tested it on
MM Windows 95/98. I don't know, if will work on Windows 2000/NT.

I don't think so W2K reg files start with 'REGEDIT5' not 'REGEDIT4'.

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Re: Fentun

2002-04-15 Thread wired


ON Monday, April 15, 2002, 1:26:47 PM, you wrote:

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DE On 14 April 2002 at 23:48:37 +0200 (which was 22:48 where I live) Marek
DE Mikus rearranged electrons to get

MM I created reg file for association DAT files with fentun. I attached
MM it. If You will change path to Fentun (default in reg file is C:\PROGRAM
MM FILES\FENTUN\FENTUN.EXE), please note - in *.REG files is needed
MM two backslashes instead one - C:\\PROGRAM FILES\\FENTUN\\FENTUN.EXE.

MM Please note: this file was created on Windows 98 and I tested it on
MM Windows 95/98. I don't know, if will work on Windows 2000/NT.

DE I don't think so W2K reg files start with 'REGEDIT5' not 'REGEDIT4'.

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Hi David,

It did anyway :-)

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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:31:57 GMT -0700 (3:31 PM EDST) Brien King wrote:

 Ok,

 Is there a way to tell if the message body is empty?  I have been getting SPAM
 that just has a subject and nothing else in the body.  The Email has an HTML
 attachment (Picture and Link).

You can use TheBat! = Account = SortingOffice/Filters to set up a
Empty rule to sort out to Trash any message that does't contain at
least one character that you'd expect to see in the Text of a
non-empty message.

The pipe (i.e. [Shift]+\ (located on the key below [Backspace]) acts
as an inclusive-OR in the filter strings.  For example, you could set
up an inclusive-OR string containing all of the alpha-numeric
characters on the keyboard as:

a|A|b|B|c|C| etc. |z|Z|1|2|3| etc. |9|0

and specify in your Empty rule that the string is Not Present in the
Text. Or, as a first cut, you might try a simplified (and less tedious
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Re: Fentun

2002-04-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@15 April 2002, 15:49:34 +0200 (14:49 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 It did anyway :-)

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Re: Fentun

2002-04-15 Thread wired


ON Monday, April 15, 2002, 4:16:08 PM, you wrote:

MDP Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],

MDP @15 April 2002, 15:49:34 +0200 (14:49 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 It did anyway :-)

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  Sorry I was a bit quick in my response and I have a stripping macro in
  my reply template but it must not be working as advertised. I will
  have a look at it.

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Re: Weird characters

2002-04-15 Thread Shauna Scott

Hello Ricardo,

Sunday, April 14, 2002, 7:08:21 PM, you wrote:

 SS  I've  mentioned this before, but no one's come up with any
 SS  suggestions, so I'll try again because this is really extremely
 SS  annoying and seems to be getting worse.

 SS  I frequently receive mail through various mailing lists that has,
 SS  usually in the middle, a lot of weird characters. This makes the
 SS  mail at best difficult to read. An example, complete with
 SS  headers, is below.


 if I was you I would contact someone who sent you a broken mail and
 ask him to send it to you again, in the same way if possible. If the
 problem repeats, there's something special with the text in the email.
 If it doesn't, then it's probably a transmission problem, or a bug in
 the server software of your mail provider.


Thanks - it looks like it is my ISP (I don't know why that should
surprise me) - I set up Outlook Express and got the same result on the
same message. Now I'll have to see if I can get some help from them.

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RE: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Brien King

Actually, it turned out to be even easier than that.  I used the Regular
Expression \S which is for a Non-White Space character (not to be confused
with \s which is White Space Character).  So I check for the presence of a
Non-White Space Character, if its not found, it gets trashed.

Brien

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Grunberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 6:51 AM
 To: Brien King
 Subject: Re: Filter Question


 Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:31:57 GMT -0700 (3:31 PM EDST) Brien King wrote:

  Ok,

  Is there a way to tell if the message body is empty?  I have
 been getting SPAM
  that just has a subject and nothing else in the body.  The
 Email has an HTML
  attachment (Picture and Link).

 You can use TheBat! = Account = SortingOffice/Filters to set up a
 Empty rule to sort out to Trash any message that does't contain at
 least one character that you'd expect to see in the Text of a
 non-empty message.

 The pipe (i.e. [Shift]+\ (located on the key below [Backspace]) acts
 as an inclusive-OR in the filter strings.  For example, you could set
 up an inclusive-OR string containing all of the alpha-numeric
 characters on the keyboard as:

 a|A|b|B|c|C| etc. |z|Z|1|2|3| etc. |9|0

 and specify in your Empty rule that the string is Not Present in the
 Text. Or, as a first cut, you might try a simplified (and less tedious
 to type) rule that looks for any of the numerals or any of the vowels:

 a|A|e|E|i|I|o|O|u|U|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|0


 
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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good evening Brien,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 08:29:40 GMT-0700 (which was
17:29:40 where I live) Brien King wrote and spread these wise comments
on Filter Question:
  
snipped a bit
BK I used the Regular
BK Expression \S which is for a Non-White Space character (not to be confused
BK with \s which is White Space Character).

 Could you post the filter?
 
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RE: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Brien King

Well, that was the filter :-)  Use \S as the string, and have it required in
the Text area.  I have HTML off so attachments don't play a part.  I also
have Regular Expression turned on.


Brien



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 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:39 AM
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  Good evening Brien,

  Could you post the filter?

 --
 Best regards,
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Re: Fentun

2002-04-15 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello wired!

On Monday, April 15, 2002 at 4:40:14 PM you wrote:

   Sorry I was a bit quick in my response and I have a stripping macro in
   my reply template but it must not be working as advertised. I will
   have a look at it.

1. Funny you again quoted a bit excessively.

2. If a macro doesn't do it, use your hands (mouse/keys).



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Re: The Bat remains in RAM

2002-04-15 Thread Mandara

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, at 11:46:03  +0200 BlueStrike wrote:

RO Hello BlueStrike,

RO On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:54:30 +0200GMT (15-4-02, 10:54 +0200GMT, where
RO I live), you wrote:

B After ending The Bat, the program remains in RAM
B and occupies between 92 and 96% of the CPU's
B utilization time.

RO Is the connection centre still active?

B Thanks for your quick reply.

B Not that i could tell. If i wouldn't have checked the
B task manager because my PC been totally blocked i wouldn't
B know that thebat.exe is still running. There are no parts
B visible also not the connection center.

B Is it because of the MAPI integration? I have no clue at all.

I have no idea what happens too and this is reason I am here now. In
general v1.60c takes extremely amount of RAM, aside any other things.
This strange usage of RAM was reason why many of people I know gave up
and got back to previous versions, including me.

Well, it also blocks (often) when I have to close it, and when I go to
close it via task manager it blocks PC. Also there are strange
conflicts with other applications, after which PC blocks.

And, always when I back to old version (this one) everything is
working like a baby.

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Re[2]: Spell checker Office XP

2002-04-15 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El lunes 15 de abril de 2002, a las 9.56, Jernej Simonèiè decía:

 So, is there any other way to get spell checking in TB! with latest
 systems/software?

JS The Bat has it's own dictionaries for some languages.

Any chance of geting an Spanish dictionary?

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Re: The Bat remains in RAM

2002-04-15 Thread syv

On Monday, April 15, 2002, BlueStrike wrote:

The Bat remains in RAM

Most likely the icon in the system tray

Options | Preferences | Icon animation

B Since yesterday The Bat (1.6c) acts strangely:

B After ending The Bat, the program remains in RAM
B and occupies between 92 and 96% of the CPU's
B utilization time.

B First i thought it is because it's cleaning up
B folders or doing similar tasks, but this task
B doesn't end until i am shutting it down by hand
B via the Task Manager.

B Even reinstalling didn't change anything.



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Re: Spell checker Office XP

2002-04-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hola Ricardo,

 Any chance of geting an Spanish dictionary?

Download and install the International Pack from:

  http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

It includes a Spanish dictionary.

Un cordial saludo :)

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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good evening Brien,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 08:42:56 GMT-0700 (which was
17:42:56 where I live) Brien King wrote and spread these wise comments
on Filter Question:
  
BK Well, that was the filter :-)  Use \S as the string, and have it required in
BK the Text area.  I have HTML off so attachments don't play a part.  I also
BK have Regular Expression turned on.

 Tnx
 
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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Mandara

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, at 13:38:59  +0200 Per wrote:

PG And to get back on topic - I just tested it and their software requires the
PG exact header to be present so the comment thing won't work.

;) Anyway you can play a little with analyzers:

%COMMENT=%COOKIE='A:\Path\ToSilly\Cookie.file'

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Migrating Eudora 5.1 to The Bat! 1.60c

2002-04-15 Thread ABC ABC

I just downloaded The Bat! 1.60c on Windows 2000, and
I would like to import my 95MB Eudora 5.1 mailboxes to
The Bat!.  Unfortunately, when I run the import
wizard, and point it to the right folder containing my
Eudora mail, it doesn't do any importing.  So I read
through the entire archives and found these threads
(name is the thread-starter):

-
*Importing from Outlook, Victor Wong
*Eudora Conversion Revisited, Michael Disabato
*Migrating Problems. Going from Outlook to The Bat!
What a PITA!, Brien King 
*hotmail?  Eudora, Paul Cartwright 
-

Some of the solutions proposed were: find an older
copy of The Bat! 1.53d (from Tucows) where the Eudora
import works; from Eudora 5.1, export to a Unix
mailbox format; get a program called Mailbag Assistant
to help with all that mail (I realize my 95MB of mail
is not that much compared to what some of you may
have.)

I don't want to use Mailbag Assitant because from what
I understand, it allows you to look at and work with
many types of mail, but it doesn't convert them to
anything.  The Bat! looks powerful and fast, and I
think it would be able to handle my mail well enough
that I don't need a separate Mailbag Assistant
program.

So... what do people suggest is the best option?  I
will try both, but if there are subtle errors I might
not pick them up until one day when I'm looking for an
old message... so I would prefer hearing any
tried-and-true method for this kind of migration.  I
don't have many addresses in Eudora, so I'm not
interested in Address Book type migration... just the
email and its folder structure please.  

Also... all my Eudora folders are what The Bat! calls
common folders... will I be able to import them as
common folders?  Or does The Bat! not handle common
folders very well.  I like the idea of keeping all
folders within each of my several email accounts, but
sometimes friends email to any of my accounts, and for
those I'd like to filter them into common folders,
and not worry about keeping them within a certain
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Re: PGP adding a dash+space

2002-04-15 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Nathalie Marlier Seigneuret,

On Monday, April 15 2002 at 02:03 AM PDT, you wrote:

 It seems that PGP adds a dash + a space before lignes beginning with a
 dash, which makes the dash dash space before a signature unusable,
 as the email goes out with - --  instead.

What you see is referred to as dash-escaping and is done to preserve the
PGP headers that all begin with dashes. It's a necessary evil with PGP/GPG
and it will invalidate your signature delimiter. Not to worry though, as
most people who reply to a PGP signed message should be replying to quoted
text only thereby stripping out everything... PGP signatures, personal
signatures, List trailers, etc.

BTW, I would upgrade your version of PGP as the MD5 Hash Algorithm that
you see at the top of your Postings has inherent weaknesses, and version
2.6 is very old and you may well run into compatibility problems with
Users who use newer versions of both PGP and GPG.

Try Imad's PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 07... as there is a new TB specific Plugin
available for it. You can download the CKT version here:

http://www.ipgpp.com/

Hit the arrow right below the Quick CKT Download button and you will see
PGP 6.5.8ckt-Build 07. Once installed with the Plugin, simply go to
Tools/OpenPGP/Choose OpenPGP Version... and select the PGP 6.0x / 6.5x
Plugin. 

To install the CKT Plugin, you will need the following files:

http://www.ipgpp.com/bins082.zip

http://www.ipgpp.com/batpgp65.zip

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Spell Checker

2002-04-15 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El lunes 15 de abril de 2002, a las 14.01, Miguel A. Urech decía:

 Any chance of geting an Spanish dictionary?

MAU Download and install the International Pack from:

MAU   http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

MAU It includes a Spanish dictionary.

Thanks. I had the file, but never used it thinking it only had the
translation for the menus and forms. I rarely use those translations,
because usually they are really awful or incomplete, specially for
those of us who don't speak the Spanish from Spain.

Now that I have the Spanish dictionary, there's something I don't find
(and I guess it goes to the wish-list). I have an account where I
always write in spanish, and this account where I always write in
english (or try to write in english :) )

Is there a way to set a different default dictionary for each
account (or even better, for each folder), so I don't have to select
the right one each time I start a message ?

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Re: Spell Checker

2002-04-15 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Ricardo,

15. april 2002, 20:51:27, you wrote:

RMR Is there a way to set a different default dictionary for each
RMR account (or even better, for each folder), so I don't have to select
RMR the right one each time I start a message ?

There is the %language macro.

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Re: Spell Checker

2002-04-15 Thread wired


ON Monday, April 15, 2002, 8:51:27 PM, you wrote:


RMR Is there a way to set a different default dictionary for each
RMR account (or even better, for each folder), so I don't have to select
RMR the right one each time I start a message ?

Hi Ricardo,

You could always try folder templates but that is a very risky way to
solve it. I have found that the best way to do this is to add people per
language in a addressbook and have addressbook specific templates.

What we really need is a language flag in the address book per entry.
I hope this doesn't fall of the RIT Labs wish list.

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Re: Fentun

2002-04-15 Thread wired


ON Monday, April 15, 2002, 4:53:21 PM, you wrote:

DH Hello wired!

DH On Monday, April 15, 2002 at 4:40:14 PM you wrote:

   Sorry I was a bit quick in my response and I have a stripping macro in
   my reply template but it must not be working as advertised. I will
   have a look at it.

DH 1. Funny you again quoted a bit excessively.

DH 2. If a macro doesn't do it, use your hands (mouse/keys).


Hi Dierk,

The previous one was manual labour as to this one that is
template/macro driven.

I didn't find it to excessive though, considering the enormous amount
of header overhead each msg here carries with it.

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Peter Meyns

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Mandara,

on Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:19:40 +0200GMT you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

M %COMMENT=%COOKIE='A:\Path\ToSilly\Cookie.file'

Now, that's a nice idea! *lol*
- --
Cheers
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt Build 07  * PGP-signed for better authentication :-) *
Comment: Key available at http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt

iQA/AwUBPLsQ4QM2UgbhB3TOEQKmBQCg8x5EAZ0UJgIQYYTWO5FkveaDRpsAnAnL
bVJzooW2kriHlV7XuPwgklG3
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Re: TB! mailto registry protocol

2002-04-15 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Assad Toorab,

On Wednesday, April 10 2002 at 04:32 AM PDT, you wrote:

 When  I  click  on  on  an email address, TB! opens the message editor
 without filling the 'To' field. I presume this is a registry issue.

I'm not sure about Win 2K, but with Win 98 you have to go into Internet
Options in IE and check to see what you have listed for your default Mail
Client. Make sure it is TB, then go to Windows Explorer/View/Folder
Options and look for the URL: Mailto icon. In there, it should read
something like:

C:\Program Files\The Bat\thebat.exe %1 ...and that includes the space.


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Re: Spell Checker

2002-04-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Ricardo,

 I rarely use those translations, because usually they are really
 awful or incomplete, specially for those of us who don't speak the
 Spanish from Spain.

I think I've never used the Spanish interface myself, so I can't
really tell:

 Is there a way to set a different default dictionary for each
 account (or even better, for each folder), so I don't have to select
 the right one each time I start a message ?

As others have pointed out, you can use the %LANGUAGE macro in
templates, whether they are account, folder or AB ones. I have some
set up but, most of the time I use two Quick Templates I have:

SP which includes %LANGUAGE=SP
BR which includes %LANGUAGE=BR

That way, at any time while writing a message (it doesn't have to be
the first thing you do) I can type SP or BR followed by Ctrl+space
to switch from one language to the other.

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Re: Spell Checker

2002-04-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello wired,

 What we really need is a language flag in the address book per entry.
 I hope this doesn't fall of the RIT Labs wish list.

There is not a perfect solution for everyone. Whether it is templates
or flags in the AB, I have a number of people in my AB to whom I may
write in Spanish or English depending on other people I may CC or if
it is a business or private message.

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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Luc,

  Tnx

You've beaten your own record. ;-)

A 1180 bytes long message (3361 counting RFC-822 headers) for a 3
bytes long 'Tnx'.

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Authenticating outgoing email

2002-04-15 Thread Daniel Maier


 PGP ckt builds

Hallo Marck,

slightly off topic, but what does ckt stand for?

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Re: Authenticating outgoing email

2002-04-15 Thread Melissa Reese

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 12:13:06 PM PST, Daniel Maier wrote:

 slightly off topic, but what does ckt stand for?

Cyber Knights Templar

Melissa
- -- 
PGP public keys:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9Body=Please%20send%20keys

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

iEYEARECAAYFAjy7MdwACgkQjVbXUvsE8unYuwCfRM5+YWUyOjs0NE1SBpBq4a6Q
qAAAoKuILJDYrTs4V1cLLYBHpGeipa7/
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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good evening Miguel,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 21:52:50 GMT+0200 (which was
21:52:50 where I live) Miguel A. Urech wrote and spread these wise
comments on Filter Question:
  
snipped a bit
MAU You've beaten your own record. ;-)

 Trying to get into the Guinness Book  ;-)
 
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Re: Fentun

2002-04-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Dierk,

 1. Funny you again quoted a bit excessively.

What would you they say about
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ;-)

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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Luc,

  Trying to get into the Guinness Book  ;-)

I prefer Guinness beer ;-)

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Re: PGP and Mailing Lists

2002-04-15 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Michael Disabato,

On Sunday, April 14 2002 at 04:49 AM PDT, you wrote:

 OK, that's what I thought. I'm struggling through the implementation
 of GnuPG to support IDEA (RFC1991 compatibility with TB!). Once
 that's done, I'll use GPGRelay as a front end for the thing.

You have to add the IDEA module. If you are using Windows you can load
the Nullify GnuPG 1.06 Binary which includes the IDEA Module:

http://www.nullify.org/


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Re: Filter Question

2002-04-15 Thread Luc

 Good evening Miguel,
  
It was foretold that on 15-4-2002 @ 22:12:56 GMT+0200 (which was
22:12:56 where I live) Miguel A. Urech wrote and spread these wise
comments on Filter Question:
  
snipped a bit
MAU I prefer Guinness beer ;-)

 Next time when i'm in your neck of the woods ;-)
 
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Re[2]: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Oto Ziak

On 15. 4. 2002 at 14:14 GMT+0100 (which was 15:14 where I live)
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote in
msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 It seems a bit excessive running a mailserver just to be able to add
 a single header line...  Any other suggestions?

MDP X-Ray? Never used it myself but it is often mentioned here when it
MDP comes to patching message headers

X-RAY is beautiful application. Check my header. There are my X-
header lines added by X-RAY. In TXT file ditributed inside
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Replying to email

2002-04-15 Thread Colin Grant

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Help please group,

Why is it that when I reply to a message the editing window comes up
minus the original message, even if I highlight the text and use F4.

For replies not to quote the original is a useful option but not one
that should apply all the time.

Am I missing something?

Thanks
Colin
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Kind Regards
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Showing the Connection Centre window

2002-04-15 Thread Giampaolo Bellavite

Hi all,

I've set in my preferences to always hide the Connection centre,

However, sometimes I would like to show the Connection centre during
the connection to my accounts, *without* going to Option  Preference.

So I'm wondering if there is a key-shortcut to open it, or another way
to open the connection centre only *temporary*.

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Re: PGP and Mailing Lists

2002-04-15 Thread Michael Disabato

Monday, April 15, 2002, 3:20:49 PM, Nick scribbled:

NA You have to add the IDEA module. If you are using Windows you can load
NA the Nullify GnuPG 1.06 Binary which includes the IDEA Module:

NA http://www.nullify.org/

Nick,

Once again, thank you for your reply. I found nullify.org while
looking at GPGShell. Both have been loaded and I've successfully done
some tests. The only problem is that, even with the IDEA module, GPG
does not generate IDEA keys, at least I haven't gotten it to work.
With that in mind, I'll generate the keys in TB! and use GPGShell to
manage the mailing list system.

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BCC as if originally BCC'd

2002-04-15 Thread John Thomas

Is it possible to create a filter that will BCC a message to somebody
as if the sender had originally BCC'd the message to them?

I need this because I have all e-mail at my domain forwarded to a free
pop server account. I would like TheBat to forward my wife's e-mail to
another pop server account, which she can then retrieve through an
unmentionable e-mail client.

I tried redirect, but it puts a new address in the to line.  I tried
create a message, but became too terribly complicated for me.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Re: The Bat remains in RAM

2002-04-15 Thread BlueStrike

Hello Mandara,

On Mon, 15. April 2002 at 16:06 Mandara wrote:

M I have no idea what happens too and this is reason I am here now. In
M general v1.60c takes extremely amount of RAM, aside any other things.
M This strange usage of RAM was reason why many of people I know gave up
M and got back to previous versions, including me.

M Well, it also blocks (often) when I have to close it, and when I go to
M close it via task manager it blocks PC. Also there are strange
M conflicts with other applications, after which PC blocks.

M And, always when I back to old version (this one) everything is
M working like a baby.

M Mandara

I agree, looks like i have to switch to an older release of TB.
Which older version is doing it for you?

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Re: Replying to email

2002-04-15 Thread wired


ON Monday, April 15, 2002, 11:34:20 PM, you wrote:

CG Help please group,

CG Why is it that when I reply to a message the editing window comes up
CG minus the original message, even if I highlight the text and use F4.

CG For replies not to quote the original is a useful option but not one
CG that should apply all the time.

CG Am I missing something?


Hi Colin,

 Changes are that you are activating a template with the %clear macro in
 it. Standard TB! quotes the whole msg.
 Check Account/addressbook/folder templates.

 Hope this helps.
 
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Re: Replying to email

2002-04-15 Thread Mrten

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Om 1:10 op dinsdag 16 april 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

CG Why is it that when I reply to a message the editing window comes up
CG minus the original message, even if I highlight the text and use F4.

CG For replies not to quote the original is a useful option but not one
CG that should apply all the time.

 Changes are that you are activating a template with the %clear macro in
 it. Standard TB! quotes the whole msg. Check Account/addressbook/folder
 templates.

No, TB does not reply to the complete message-body. It cuts the part below
the signature-mark in the original message. Perhaps that is the problem
that the original question was about.

Mrten.

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Mandara

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, at 12:54:08  +0100 David wrote:

DE However if you get x-ray from http://www.xrayapp.com you can do it with
DE this.

Hm, is there some other link, please? Flash Get can't connect all day
to this one.

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Mandara,

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:58:58 +0200GMT (16-4-02, 1:58 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:
M On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, at 12:54:08  +0100 David wrote:

DE However if you get x-ray from http://www.xrayapp.com you can do it with
DE this.

M Hm, is there some other link, please? Flash Get can't connect all day
M to this one.

M Mandara



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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Mandara,

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:58:58 +0200GMT (16-4-02, 1:58 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

DE However if you get x-ray from http://www.xrayapp.com you can do it with
DE this.

M Hm, is there some other link, please? Flash Get can't connect all day
M to this one.

It connects ok over here.

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Re[2]: Spell Checker

2002-04-15 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El lunes 15 de abril de 2002, a las 15.56, Jernej Simonèiè decía:

RMR Is there a way to set a different default dictionary for each
RMR account (or even better, for each folder), so I don't have to select
RMR the right one each time I start a message ?

JS There is the %language macro.

Thanks a lot to everyone who answered.
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Re: Replying to email

2002-04-15 Thread Carren Stuart

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On Tuesday, 16 April 2002 at 9:34 a.m. Colin wrote: 


CG Help please group,

CG Why is it that when I reply to a message the editing window comes
CG up minus the original message, even if I highlight the text and
CG use F4.

CG For replies not to quote the original is a useful option but not
CG one that should apply all the time.

CG Am I missing something?

At last! Someone who has the same problem as me! This happens to me
only *sometimes* and so far, I have been unable to figure out why. It
is not a template issue in my case and it doesn't happen with every
reply. I have tried to find a *common factor* on the occasions that it
*does* happen but so far I have come up with nothing.

If you ever figure it out please let me know! :-)


Carren


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Re: The Bat remains in RAM

2002-04-15 Thread Mandara

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 00:26:08  +0200 BlueStrike wrote:

B I agree, looks like i have to switch to an older release of TB.
B Which older version is doing it for you?

This one, 1.53d, is working quite well and stable to me.

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Re: Additional headers?

2002-04-15 Thread Mandara

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 02:34:58  +0200 Roelof wrote:

DE x-ray from http://www.xrayapp.com you can do it with
DE this.

M Hm, is there some other link, please? Flash Get can't connect all day
M to this one.

RO It connects ok over here.

Thanks, it helps. :-)

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AVG Plugin

2002-04-15 Thread Thomas Martin

Hello ThBat UDL List,

  is there a AVG Antivirus Plugin for TB?

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Re[2]: Replying to email

2002-04-15 Thread Colin Grant

Hi Gerard,

Thanks but I'm not using a template. Also I've got no aggress book in
the account menu.

Regards
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Re: AVG Plugin

2002-04-15 Thread Don Taylor

Thomas,

 is there a AVG Antivirus Plugin for TB?

Not that I'm aware of... yet. Please keep bugging grisoft, asking them
to provide one!

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