Hi,
...
C "Read" is a post you've opened at least the time you've defined to
C change it from "unread" to "read". No change.
C "Seen" is a post you have not read, but which is in a folder you've
C opened at least the time you would define, if my wish is agreed. This
C means that you know this
Hi Nick,
ND I think I recall a reference somewhere along the line of a "print"
ND template. I'm assuming it's a template for what info gets printed in
ND a print command. My question is... where is the setup for this (if it
ND indeed exists)?
Message | print setup
Regards,
Wolfgang
Hi Ian,
IG I've tried with kludges on and off, and with the RFC 822 headers on
IG and off, but while I can see them, I can't print a complete set of
IG message headers. Is this a bug or am I doing something stupid?
AFAIK you will have to save the message to a file and print
this file.
Regards,
Hi,
...
PF The source of the printing
PF problems, however, probably originates with the office suite, Corel.
PF WordPerfect and HP printers have a long history of not getting along
PF real well, although I've found that HP printers, especially their
PF drivers, are not what they used to be.
In
Hi,
just installed TB on a new PC under Win98/2.
On startup error msg 'Out of system resources' is displayed.
Only the outer window is displayed, no folder pane etc.
I doubt that it is really a TB problem, because two
other programs show similar symptoms. On the other side,
more than a dozen
Hello Adam,
At 17:45 13.11.99 +0100, you wrote:
i give up, i`m waiting for 1.37 official...
and someone send me the "correct" file... I don`t have to say what
happend... "application corrupted! terminating"
So it's most probably not a damaged file. My guess it
that there is a virus on your pc.
Hi tracer,
Wolfgang just installed TB on a new PC under Win98/2.
Wolfgang On startup error msg 'Out of system resources' is displayed.
Wolfgang Only the outer window is displayed, no folder pane etc.
Wolfgang I doubt that it is really a TB problem, because two
Wolfgang other programs show
Hi tracer,
...
Wolfgang While having a shower this morning I decided that it is the
Wolfgang graphics card driver. I'll test that on sunday (don't have
Wolfgang access to my new pc before that :-( ).
t wouldnt you need another test video card???
The first attempt will be to use the standard
Hi Soth,
...
S I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add
S sub-folders to the sorting filters? Their use would be primarily for
S grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to
S lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters.
Not a bad
Hi Mary,
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Hi Bernhard,
At 10:27 19.11.99 +0100, you wrote:
The situation: I want to answer to a message and try to delete passages I
don't
want to refer to; I use the mouse to mark the text, then I press the
del-button
(in German Entf): nothing happens.
There are two 'Entf' on my keyboard: one in the
Hi Vlad,
V When implementing a search (F7), TB! indicates currently
V searching folders in the status line. But after the search
V is finished it is impossible to see where a found message is
V located.
Rearrange the colums so that you can see the 'folder' column.
Regards,
Wolfgang
Hi all,
...
TF Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ (toggle idiot mode on/off) will take "Folder" off the
TF menu in the main screen, and some of the choices out of Account/...
did somebody already find out what to use on a german keyboard
for this nice function?
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Hi tracer,
...
This kind of capability needs either many pages with examples or an
extra support to deal with all the questions and 1 may not be enough!
or it needs TBREG ;-)
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Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 95 4.0 Build
Hi Oliver,
...
I already stated I would. But the problem I see is not me staying with
fixed-width fonts, but many others not doing so.
You do not know *which* variable font they used - so you will
never be able to see the message exactly as it looked for them.
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Hi Steve,
...
Given those reasons I fail to see why anyone would want MDI.
I often have more than 20 windows active inside Opera, and
they are easy to work with. Try to do that using IE/NS and
the task bar. For me, it's annoying.
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Hi Claudius,
...
I don't think any other expression is more exact -- is simply fascistic.
Please stop this now IMMEDIATELY - enough is enough.
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Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 95 4.0 Build B
in Darmstadt, Germany,
on a
Hi Nick,
...
However, what about us that are not comfortable with
some of the Unix style editors you mention. I'm not sure of the terminology,
but what I'm getting at is... what "good" editor do you know of that will
have a decent GUI to make it easy for us less technical people to use?
I'm
Hi Steve,
SL Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:40:09 AM, Marck wrote:
Of course the external editor option looks more attractive all the time.
SL OF course it does.
IMO the term 'external editor' is a little misleading.
It is possible to integrate such a component written
by another company
Hi Tom,
TP In this vein, can anyone tell me where the startup sequence for the
TP webbrowser is stored so I can have it call IE differently?
in windows explorer: View | folder options | HTML Document
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Hi,
...
TC Is there a way online to look up a IP address?
Sam Spade: http://samspade.org/classic/
TC This one was
TC 171.226.93.102
ABE25D66.ipt.aol.com
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Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B
in Darmstadt,
Hi Sebastian,
SA I am using The BAT since version 1.38e. I installed PGP support (6.5)
SA and am happy with it. There is just something that keeps bothering me,
SA and it happens every time I decrypt an encrypted message (it contains
SA the sender's public key at the end). The program keeps
Hi,
...
J I imported the PGP-key and added the forms. Now this may sound stupid, but
J I still have no idea how to use them. I see them in the submission forms
J menu window, but all I can do with them is delete them from there again...
J Am I doing something wrong?
from a mail to this
Hi,
WK And please add an signature separator "-- " (dashdashenternewline)
WK to your TBUDL template.
Oh no, sorry, that should read dashdashblankenter
of course :-(
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Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A
in
Hi,
...
GCS Support for all of the PGP options. Eudora used to support these
GCS (Eudora Lite still does, AFAIK, although Eudora Pro has been "broken"
GCS for several versions now).
And Eudora Pro with PGP support was not sold outside the US
when I was looking for a new mailer in 98.
So they
Hi phil,
p and why does a three line tagline bother you?
Because we can not read it. Please use an encoding that is
appropriate for an international mailing list.
And please add a signature delimiter "-- " (minusminus
blankenter) befor your signature. Thank you.
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Hi Leif,
LG That Phil guy is a strange character.
...
LG Reverse line:
LG Bad Phil
He acts like a defiant child. Lets close this thread.
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in Darmstadt, Germany,
on a
Hi Mark,
MRH If I want to submit this 'bug' to RITLABS as 'cid' suggested then is
MRH there a standard mechanism for this? I ask because I am new to this
MRH arena and don't see any info. on bug-posting on the official web-site
MRH or FAQ pages.
Help | Feedback | Bug report ;-)
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Hi Dieter,
Next question: what's the difference between "originator" and
"sender"?
DH Hey, the originator of a message must not necessarily be the sender...
DH In the case of our vampire I guess it means the same.
Hm. My thought was that maybe "originator" is the envelope-from.
Hi Gary,
G Am I to understand that if I set up a kill filter, it will prohibit
G whenever I set up as the filter from downloading into The Bat!?
Yes, only some headers are downloaded in this case.
G So
G the purpose of the kill filter is to kill it before you see it.
Yes.
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Hi Oliver,
...
OS Anyway, my original problem is still there... If I have a file of,
OS say, 6mb of size, which will encode to around 8mb when attached to
OS email, why does transfering those 8mb via TB take much longer than
OS transfering another file of 8mb original size via ftp?
Hi Gary,
...
G Thanks Wolfgang for your response, I appreciate it. Taking this one
G step further, any other filter I set up other than the kill filter
G will go automatically to the file that I designate. I can set up a
G regular filter to go to the trash automatically. So the difference
G
Hi Tom,
...
TP Umm, I would imagine that all headers would have to be downloaded for
TP them to be examined with the filters... Maybe I'm crazy, but as far
TP as I understand POP3, you don't really get that much information...
Hmmm, maybe I mix this up with the XOVER command of the NNTP
Hi Oliver,
...
OS Hm. Never heard of that, I must say. I'm using a 64kbit ISDN
OS connection, shouldn't any server at the provider be able to handle
OS that little data?
In my experience: no.
To check this, you can use the systen monitor of windows.
You may have to install it, as
Hi Steve,
*But*: if all headers are downloaded - why does TB only offer
to filter on originator/subject/routing?
SL For the same reason that TB! offers only to filter
SL on "sender",
SL "receiver", "subject", "kludges", "body" and "anywhere". ;)
Next question: what's the difference
Hi Roy,
...
RM - but are kill
RM filters that are killing 'on the server' the slowest?
AFAIK yes. The reason is that TB has to contact the server
twice per messages if at least one kill filter exists:
1. get headers
2. get message
If your mail server is slow (as mine is) it is a lot faster
to
Hi,
EH GMX have that stupid policy that first you have to download mail and
EH only then they let you upload. The server replies with "Please log in
EH first".
A very good method against spammers.
EH It's really annoying but they haven't even bothered to reply to a
EH respective request of
Hi Uwe,
...
UB The POP server for my account is pop.gmx.de. After starting The Bat!
UB I can retrieve e-mail from the POP server only once. All susequent
UB attempts to retrieve my e-mail result in a
UB FETCH - Could not connect to the server
Hmmm, strange. No problems with
Hi Johannes,
JMP Oh come on! What do you use? ISDN? In times of flatrates at 80 DM, I
JMP can only laugh at discussions 'bout "your .sig is longer than 4 lines"
JMP and "2k vs 6k".
So you are a very privileged person. I consider your argument
arrogant and unpolite to those readers here, who are
Hi Thomas,
...
JD I do not think it is necessary to decrease our security to
JD accommodate the minority of users who have a very low bandwidth
JD connection.
TF Hear, hear. I want to know what others say to this: Is this mailing
TF list only for high-bandwidth privileged users?
Clearly NO.
I
Hi,
AFAIK, there's no way of disabling this confirmation dialog.
JMP [X] Wishlist :(
[X] Help | feedback ;-)
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in Stadtallendorf, Germany,
on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB
Hi Johannes,
So you are a very privileged person. I consider your argument
arrogant and unpolite to those readers here, who are not as
privileged as you are (and I am) considered internet access costs.
JMP What?! *Priviledged*? I know that in roughly 70% of countries you have
JMP somewhat
Hi,
...
My question is, why donĀ“t we create a newsgroup
news:de.comm.software.mailreader.misc exists.
But you will see that this list is fare more useful.
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in
Hi Cameleon,
C How (I guess that's possible) can I make TheBat automatically send a
C message (using a template but not an external file), when I receive a
C mail on a particular account, with a particular subject, or sender,
C etc ? I didn't find anything like that in the Filters.
Go to
Hi Thomas,
TF Never thought of that. This means that "thebat.exe" (the full
TF installation) and "thebat.exe" (the actual program, the executable,
TF The Bat!, the application, ...) should have different names.
TF I certainly agree with this. For example, "thebat.exe" could be called
TF
Hi all,
the mail quoted below was sent to the list managers by a list member
who, for obvious reasons, does not want to mail it to the list
under his name. Because I feel that the information might be of
great interest for others I'm sending the info now, of course
with permission of the author.
Hi all,
I see an ad. campaign coming shortly...
The Bat! - activates parts of the brain other email clients cannot
reach.
I don't think that this is a theme to make jokes about.
Please discuss this seriously - thank you.
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Hi Timothy,
...
TC My mouse now acts strangely when the Bat is running in the background,
TC along with freezups when I try to delete messages in folders.
Did you install/upgrade a virus scanner lately? I had a similar
effect when I installed a new McAfee version some months ago.
Switching to
Hi Martian,
MK I seem to be having a message
MK size limit problem. I can send messages less then 1K size, but
MK not larger (somewhere betweeen 1K and 1.5K). Any ideas why that
MK might be? I have a registered copy (the $35 version). Messages
MK larger than 1K seem to send the first part
Hi Karin,
...
KS 1. In a new edition of TB's search facility, could we
KShave extra information detailing the whereabouts of
KSfound messages (describing the mail folder in which
KSthey are located)?
KSOften you'd like to know *where* it was found.
Right click on any of the
Hi Jan,
...
JR Result: I can rcv mail but I can't send mail.
AFAIK gmx does not allow you to use a FROM (and REPLYTO?) address
other then the one you are logged in under.
E.g., the one and only FROM I can use under this gmx account
is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Jan,
JR Hello Wolfgang, Thanks for this tip
So your problem is solved?
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Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B
in Stadtallendorf, Germany,
on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-)
Hi Jan,
JR Nope. Unfortunately I can't say this. Any further thoughts would be
JR welcomed. TIA
Ok, next try ;-)
The gmx "user name" is your complete email address,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in my case, not only "Wolfgang.Kynast".
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Hi Ben,
BP I would like to move some folders into another folder, making them sub
BP folders.
BP If I can do this, can someone show me the way please?
Press ctrl and alt and move with the mouse.
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Hi Pasquale,
...
PJFS This is how I had it, but than some mail from list participants did
PJFS not get filtered to the bat folder, so I also added the string to
PJFS kludges, and recipients and ticked yes for each.
Would it be possible for you to produce a screenshot of the
not-working filter,
Hi Dave,
ACM One menu structure is more secure than the other in that the configuration
ACM menu options aren't present. So in a multi-user environment it may be
ACM useful.
DG Ahhh, that makes sense now! Thanks for the reply!
Some unpolite guys called it 'idiots mode' in the past ;-)
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Hi Pasquale,
first: please do not fullquote.
...
Well as in the tortoise and the hare I will eventually get across the
finish line.
There is a nice tutorial about filtering on
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/filtering.html
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Hi,
Since I upgraded to 1.49 (from 1.44), I find that the functioning of
TheBat is much slower. Clicking on Account Filter or the New
Message icon takes much longer than it use to in 1.44.
Is that the case with everyone? Or it is just my system?
No problems here. Check the following:
-
Hi,
i need som
assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the
Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign?
KS The / key is above the 7: press Shift-7.
I'm afraid this won't work because you have to press
ctrl-shift-alt and the key we are looking for
Hi Lija,
L PMFJI, you mean after restoring from a backup, all message files on the disk
L have read-only attribute?
Yes, if the backup was to a CD. Don't know how this is handled on
other backup mediums.
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Hi Dierk,
On german keyboards it's ctrl-shift-alt-# - maybe this helps.
This should have been Strg-shift-alt-# of course :-)
DH How about the numerical pad (just above the 8, the division sign)?
The key alone brings up quick search here, together with
crtl-shift-alt nothing happens.
Marck:
Hi Tim,
TM Is it possible to have a Rule move a message to another
TM account/folder without sending
Yes.
Dumb question: why didn't you simply try it?
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in
Hi Marck,
...
MDP Where should I get that list from? If you could all shower me with
MDP your regional version of Ctrl-Alt-Shift-/ then I will make up the list
MDP here and an FAQ entry.
Ok, here we go:
keyboard layout toggle 'simple menus'
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Hi Gerry,
WK Dumb question: why didn't you simply try it?
GD I hope you were just joking around when you said that. We all would
GD like people to try things and read the "manual" so to speak before
GD asking a question, but, stating that a person had a dumb question is,
GD IMHO, not a good
Hi Mike,
...
MY Since so many list members aren't native English speakers, we
MY shouldn't be overly sensitive to grammar errors, misspellings or
MY mangled idioms.
Thank you and all the others for your understanding. Rest assured
that I will try to be much more careful with such things in the
Hi all,
JR What is the address for the Ritlabs ftp directory? Thanks.
ST ftp.ritlabs.com with releases in /pub/the_bat and betas in
ST /pub/the_bat/beta
Let me take this opportunity and repeat a mail here that I
wrote yesterday on TBBETA:
-
...
It's the friendly thing to do ;-).
Let
Hi rene,
Big one. At 1.42 the mailbox file format changed and the file
extension were also changed at the same time. You can use the Tools ..
Import to import from the old .MSB format files.
HTH.
rxn Thank you also for pointing out that import feature. However, if I'm
rxn to manually
Hi Dierk,
...
DH And, BTW, as long as the code has not been published and scrutinised
DH by different independent people I would not use it for fear of bugs
DH and security holes (remember 5.53 and later, concerning ADK).
Ack.
DH A lot of folks still use DOS-based 2.6.3 versions of PGP and
Hi Peter,
[moderator's note]
Please do not overquote. It's seldom useful to quote the
whole message you are replying to, and it's almost never
necessary to quote a PGP signature.
Thank you.
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Hi Deniz,
...
DB I just want 1 window to open as it is since 1.47
DB This may be a bug or at least a forgotten issue.
I still do not understand why this is such a problem for you.
The pop-window comes up and disappears shortly after - so what?
If I think about it: the new approach looks quite
Hi Lija,
L I started to collect TB logo pictures. The reason: maybe I'll make some site and
L put them there. :)
You should be aware that this might be a copyright infringement.
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Hi Lija,
...
L What is RETR12?
Retrieve message 1
Retrieve message 2
L What is maildrop locking?
Sounds like a Unix box cannot get exclusive access to a
file/directory at this moment.
L Does this happen when connection corrupt (prematurely?)?
Sounds like a temporary mailserver problem to
Hi Alexander,
AL I was just wondering: my TB!-folder is 700 MB.
Are you aware of the way TB handles deleted mails in it's
database? Do a folder | compress all and see how much freed
space is reported.
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Hi Alexander,
...
AL If I would compress every folder it would probably save some 160
AL MB - not really that much.
It would shrink your W2K backup to ~640 MB :-)
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Using The Bat! 1.49
Hi Alexander,
'Purge' does the deletion of expired/excess messages according to
the folder settings. Compress, as you say, removes the messages
flagged as deleted and reclaims the space.
AL That means: if I do not compress, I could also leave the messages in
AL the folder as the space won't
Hi Marck,
...
MDP Another is to "browse deleted messages".
Maybe I miss the obvious, but is there a way to undelete a
message except copying it to another folder?
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Using The Bat! 1.49
Hi John,
JP What I meant to say ( why didn't you tell me I meant to say this?)
JP was, after seeing 1.49 out of beta, then 1.49e and 1.51 in beta, where
JP is a "non beta" 1.50 for the masses?
It's at the same place where you find Netscape 5 ;-)
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Hi Russ,
RM Thanks for all the help with getting gmx sorted out. Finally I am able
RM to send email, but it seems very patchy, sometimes it connects,
RM sometimes it doesn't,
Right. At the moment GMX seems to lack some hardware.
Little tip: if there is no connection after about 5 seconds,
don't
Hi John,
...
JS Now I have an Inbox showing for this account, and an Inbox on the
JS disk with all the other folders, but the Inbox shown in the program
JS has no messages in it,
Try ESC or View | Show | all
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writing
Hi Andr,
...
AE If you want to keep the recipients unaware of the other recipients put
AE all the adresses in the BCC: field and put nothing in the TO: field or
AE your own adress if your mail server doesn't allow an empty to: field.
Ack.
...
AE I think if you create a group with TB! and send
Hi Jan,
Douglas AFAIK it means your system resources are low in relation to
Douglas the video memory needed to draw another screen. What's your
Douglas video memory status?
JR 32MB NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 4X AGP Graphics Card
AFAIK this means that you are out of GDI resources. You might
run the
Hi,
ACM Use the NT Taskmanager. Go to View - Select Objects and choose 'GDI
ACM handles'.
NT4.00.1381: Found, activated - no effect. Strange :-(
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Using The Bat! 1.51 under Windows 95
Hi Nick,
NA Anyone using GMX's free POP3 service? Can you tell me what the SMTP and
NA POP3 Server names you are using with TB! to collect your mail?
I use mail.gmx.de and pop.gmx.de - in your case mail.gmx.net
and pop.gmx.net. You know that you have to use SMTP-after-POP
(or another
Hi ztrader,
...
z If I mentioned I like text better, we'd have 50 replies
z defending HTML.
"The PROPER way to handle HTML postings is to cancel the article,
then hire a hitman to kill the poster, his wife and kids, and
fuck his dog and smash his computer into little bits. Anything
more is
Hi all,
WK "The PROPER way to handle HTML postings is to cancel the article,
...
Uppps - this was intended as private mail and should not have
gone to the list. My apologies.
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Using
Hi Dwight,
Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 2:12:04 PM, you wrote:
...
For some reason, sometimes when you drag a
folder, the next folder is the one which gets moved.
A well known problem :-(
In my experience, the follwing helps a little:
- first, click on the folder to be moved to select it.
-
Hi Olivier,
...
But *where* do I define those "account default column settings" ??
In any of the folders that have this setting set.
*First* tick this setting for one folder
*then* set up the columns for this folder as you like.
Now all folders with the option set should have the same
Hi,
...
You can check the use the account default column settings in the properties
dialog of folders.
My question is where I can set the default column setting?
In any of the folders that have this setting set.
*First* tick this setting for one folder
*then* set up the columns for
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