Re: Error: Could not export message

2009-09-25 Thread Jeanny House
 Try creating a new test account with the same settings. If this one 
 sends and receives properly, move all the messages and folders across 
 from and then delete the non-working account. Then rename the test 
 account as the personal account and check it still works.
 
 Just a suggestion - no guarantees, and even if it works it won't say 
 what was going wrong.
 
 
 -- 
 Best regards
  
 MFPA   


Thanks!  That worked!

Jeanny


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Error: Could not export message

2009-09-19 Thread Jeanny House
Once again, I'm helping my friend with The Bat! on her new computer. 
Her tech guy got it up and running, but she's having a problem sending
mail from one of her accounts.

She has a personal account with one provider and a work account with the
university's server.  She has been using her personal account provider's
SMTP server to send mail for both accounts when using her home computer.
 On her old computer, it worked fine that way.  Now, with the new
installation of The Bat! (version 4.2.10.1, Windows Vista), she gets an
error message Could not export message whenever she tries to send mail
from her personal account.  She has no trouble sending mail from her
work account through the exact same SMTP server.

This happens with all email from this account, regardless of whether or
not there's an attachment.  She's not using IMAP.

Everything is correct in her Account Properties as far as I can tell.

I've reached the limit of my expertise here.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jeanny


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Re: Installation problem

2009-09-08 Thread Jeanny House
Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 1:51:58 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote:

Jernej The easiest would be to make a full backup (Tools -
Jernej Backup) on her old computer and then do a fresh install of The Bat
Jernej 4.0.38 (it's available on  
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php)
Jernej on the new computer, and do a restore when it starts.

I tried to do a fresh install of 4.2.  Should I not use that?  I can't get the 
previous version off her new computer and it won't let me install the new 
version.  Unless I'm missing something, it won't let me do what you're 
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Installation problem

2009-09-07 Thread Jeanny House
My friend bought a new computer running Vista.  She had someone come
over a couple of days ago and do some data transfer and program
installation for her. He installed her previous copy of The Bat!, which
was probably a 2.x or 3.x version. He, of course, knew nothing about the
program.  He forgot to make a backup of TB! on her old computer,
however.  Today, we hooked up her old computer to back up TB! so we
could restore her saved email and settings.  Another friend and TB! user
came with me and tried at first just to move the files from one computer
to the other.  It wouldn't let us do that.

I had brought a flash drive with TB! 4.2 on it to install on her
computer as a trial.  When moving the files didn't work, we tried to run
the 4.2 installation program.  Over and over, we got an error message
that it couldn't find Drive G.  There is no drive G.  The flash drive
was on H.  The hard drive is C:.  When we tried to uninstall The Bat!
that her tech guy had installed, we were unable to do so.  Something
wouldn't let us.  It also called the program it wouldn't delete by some
name using a non-Roman alphabet.

So, how do I get the old files off her computer and get a new version of
The Bat! up and running with her old data restored?

Help!

Thanks,
Jeanny House


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Re: I blew it with MAPI

2007-09-06 Thread Jeanny House

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:32:16 -0500, Christopher W.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  So, 3.99.3 is an earlier version than 3.99.24?  That seems odd.
 
 3  24, not to be confused with the (nonexistent) 3.99.2.4, which
 would be older than 3.99.3.

Thanks.  That took care of it.

Jeanny
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Re: I blew it with MAPI

2007-09-06 Thread Jeanny House

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:45:00 +0300, Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

 
 I changed my transport settings from POP3 to MAPI.  Now The Bat! won't let 
 me change back.  The Bat! version 3.99.3 running on Windows Vista Home Basic
 
 Just update The Bat! to 3.99.24 to have this problem solved.

So, 3.99.3 is an earlier version than 3.99.24?  That seems odd.

Jeanny
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I blew it with MAPI

2007-09-05 Thread Jeanny House
I don't know what got into me.  I went into my account properties and,
just to see what would happen, I changed my transport settings from POP3
to MAPI.  Now The Bat! won't let me change back.  What do I do?

Jeanny

The Bat! version 3.99.3 running on Windows Vista Home Basic
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Re: Installation problems with Vista

2007-07-08 Thread Jeanny House
I'm now about ready to throw this laptop against the wall, out a window,
into a deep well, just anywhere away from me.

I still can't restore my email and files by backing up from my desktop
and restoring on the laptop.  I find Vista completely non-intuitive and
so different from XP as to be unrecognizable.  I've been near tears
countless times because they've made Vista so much easier that someone
like me, who messed around in DOS and every version of Windows up until
now, can't do anything.  I swear my blood pressure is rising.

How do I completely uninstall The Bat! so I can start over?  Every time
I think I have it uninstalled, the reinstall brings back all my
files/folders, etc.  How do I get it back to a point where there never
was a Bat! on my system?

Once there, how do I, when installing The Bat! anew, set up the accounts
so that they will actually receive all the currently-existing email and
attachments?  Right now, the emails are all there, but it won't let me
open any attachments.  This is in my secondary account (work email).  My
primary account is fine.

Please, when you respond, go step-by-step.  I feel like a ninny and need
to be talked to like one, I guess.

Yours in complete frustration,
Jeanny House


On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:44:05 -0400, Chris W. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 
 Jeanny House @ 2007-7-03 4:29:20 PM
 Installation problems with Vista
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  My new laptop arrived yesterday. It has Vista, and I don't know if
  that's the problem. I'm trying to install The Bat! on it. It
  installs just fine. I've backed up TB! on my desktop and am trying
  to load the data into the laptop by using the restore function. I
  have two accounts, one personal and one for work. I keep getting a
  message that says I can't create the folders I need to create in my
  work account.
 
  The message:
 
  Cannot access directory
  C:\Program Files\The Bat\Mail
  Access is denied
 SNIP
 
 Vista has much stricter default permissions. These defaults are
 preventing you from creating a mail directory in the Program Files
 folder.
 
 I suggest changing the mail directory. Open Options - Preferences -
 System and change the mail directory to a location that you can write
 to (Somewhere within your home directory will work.). The default is
 %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. That works for me.
 
 -- 
 Chris
 
 Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000.
 Accessing a POP3 mailbox.
 
 Gadgets are not necessarily and improvement, vide the succession:
 Blackboard - Overhead Projector - PowerPoint
 -Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
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Re: Installation problems with Vista

2007-07-08 Thread Jeanny House
Thanks, Chris.

I've decided, after much frustration, to let the attachments I already
have reside on my desktop and not worry about keeping a full archive on
both computers.  I can't seem to get the backup/restore to work the way
I want it to, but the new email coming in seems to be fine.

Thanks for your help.

Now, if I could only get WordPerfect to install correctly.  Argh.

Jeanny 

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 16:34:26 -0400, Chris W. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 
 Jeanny House @ 2007-7-08 3:25:57 PM
 Installation problems with Vista
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  How do I completely uninstall The Bat! so I can start over? Every
  time I think I have it uninstalled, the reinstall brings back all my
  files/folders, etc. How do I get it back to a point where there
  never was a Bat! on my system?
 
 (You may have to confirm some of these actions.)
  1) Log in as an administrator.
  2) Click on Start - Computer
  3) Click on Uninstall or change a program in the toolbar.
  4) Select The Bat! and click Uninstall in the toolbar.
  5) In the address bar, enter C:\Program Files\
  6) Delete the The Bat! folder.
  7) Navigate to %APPDATA%. Delete the The Bat! folder if it exists.
  8) Run regedit.
  9) Navigate to HKCU\Software\RIT
 10) Delete the The Bat! key if it exists.
 11) Log off.
 12) Log on as your normal user.
 13) Navigate to %APPDATA%. Delete the The Bat! folder if it exists.
 14) Run regedit.
 15) Navigate to HKCU\Software\RIT
 16) Delete the The Bat! key if it exists.
 17) Log off.
 
 You should be good to go now.
 
  Once there, how do I, when installing The Bat! anew, set up the
  accounts so that they will actually receive all the
  currently-existing email and attachments?
 
 I can't help you there. I haven't installed The Bat! in a long time.
 
  Right now, the emails are all there, but it won't let me open any
  attachments. This is in my secondary account (work email). My
  primary account is fine.
 
 A few cursory thoughts:
 
 We the attachments perhaps not backed up? Is The Bat! set to store
 attachments separate from messages, and the folder is not one you have
 permission to write to?
 
 -- 
 Chris
 
 Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000.
 Accessing a POP3 mailbox.
 
 Billboard on the side of the road: Keep your eyes on the road and
 stop reading these signs.
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Installation problems with Vista

2007-07-03 Thread Jeanny House
I'm about to tear my hair out.

My new laptop arrived yesterday.  It has Vista, and I don't know if
that's the problem.  I'm trying to install The Bat! on it.  It installs
just fine.  I've backed up TB! on my desktop and am trying to load the
data into the laptop by using the restore function.  I have two
accounts, one personal and one for work.   I keep getting a message that
says I can't create the folders I need to create in my work account.  

The message:

Cannot access directory
C:\Program Files\The Bat\Mail
Access is denied

Cannot access directory
C:\Program Files\The Bat\Mail\NWA Mail
Access is denied

Cannot access directory
C:\Program Files\The Bat\Mail\NWA Mail\Attach\
Access is denied

Cannot create
C:\Program Files\The Bat\Mail\NWA Mail\Attach\

I'm uaing Windows Vista Business
Don't know how to find out which version.

I'd appreciate any help I can get.

Thanks.



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Most recent TB! Update

2007-03-17 Thread Jeanny House
I apologize if this has been asked and answered. 

TB! keeps asking me if I want to update to the newest release.  All the
info in the pop-up is about what it will do with Vista.  Is there any
reason to update if I'm still using Windows XP?

Jeanny
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Re[2]: MAILTO: and .EML Associations

2006-12-30 Thread Jeanny House
Saturday, December 30, 2006, 7:23:33 AM, Benedict Allen wrote:

Benedict So check Internet Options, under programs to to make sure
Benedict TB! is selected under  email.

Thanks!  That did it.

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MAILTO: and .EML Associations

2006-12-29 Thread Jeanny House
Ever since I installed some Windows XP Automatic Update, it
automatically makes Outlook/Office the default client for mailto:
URLs. I have to change it manually every time I re-open The Bat!

Any ideas what might be happening?

Jeanny

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Re[2]: Google desktop

2006-03-01 Thread Jeanny House
Sunday, February 19, 2006, 8:31:59 PM, Marek Mikus wrote:

Marek Hello all, Sunday, February 19, 2006, Jeanny House wrote:

 Forgive me if this has been talked about already, but does anyone know
 if there are plans to create a Google Desktop plugin so that it can
 index email files from The Bat?

Marek You can downlaod it here: http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/thebat.HTML

I've downloaded it, installed it, and given it time to index my
messages.  When I enter keywords into Google desktop that I know it
will find in my email, no email from The Bat! shows up in the list. Is
there something else I'm supposed to be doing?

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Google desktop

2006-02-19 Thread Jeanny House
Forgive me if this has been talked about already, but does anyone know
if there are plans to create a Google Desktop plugin so that it can
index email files from The Bat?

Jeanny

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Fwd: Scheduler question

2005-06-30 Thread Jeanny House
Any takers on this?  I'm trying to get this set up before I leave town
tomorrow.

Thanks,
Jeanny
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:33:10 -0500, Jeanny House [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 I'm trying to get the Scheduler to create/send an email.  I'd like to
 send the same email once a month.  I want to address it to my
 secretary and BCC a group of people from my address book.
 
 I've tried it a couple of ways.
 
 I put her address and the group in the specific address box and
 checked send secondary addresses as BCC.  When the test email was
 generated and saved in my outbox as a draft, only her address showed
 up.  No BCC group was generated, even when I hit F9 and looked at the
 detailed headers.
 
 I used the Linking function to link to her address in the TO: and the
 group in the BCC.  When I did that, I couldn't even get the test email
 to generate on schedule.
 
 I tried putting a macro command in the text to BCC to the group, but
 that didn't work either.
 
 Is there a way to do this that I'm overlooking?
 
 Jeanny
 
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Scheduler question

2005-06-29 Thread Jeanny House
I'm trying to get the Scheduler to create/send an email.  I'd like to
send the same email once a month.  I want to address it to my
secretary and BCC a group of people from my address book.

I've tried it a couple of ways.

I put her address and the group in the specific address box and
checked send secondary addresses as BCC.  When the test email was
generated and saved in my outbox as a draft, only her address showed
up.  No BCC group was generated, even when I hit F9 and looked at the
detailed headers.

I used the Linking function to link to her address in the TO: and the
group in the BCC.  When I did that, I couldn't even get the test email
to generate on schedule.

I tried putting a macro command in the text to BCC to the group, but
that didn't work either.

Is there a way to do this that I'm overlooking?

Jeanny

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Re[2]: Filtering question

2005-01-28 Thread Jeanny House
Thursday, January 27, 2005, 10:38:28 PM, Greg Strong wrote:

Greg However Jeanny has another problem:

Greg The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2

Greg She is using v2 versus Beta 3.0.2.10 for Bill which uses the NFS which
Greg is different. I don't believe should could do a copy paste with the
Greg filter because of the different configuration.

Thanks, Greg and all --

I've used your suggestions, upgraded, and now it's only costing me $30
to get a program that does what it used to do perfectly all the time
with a much simpler filter that just quit working (probably at the
time of a new, improved upgrade.

Don't worry ... I'm still an extreme TB! loyalist!

Jeanny

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Filtering question

2005-01-27 Thread Jeanny House
Friends,

I had a filter set up so that all email from my secretary to me (to
JUST me, no CC's or groups) was filtered to a separate folder.  All of
a sudden it just quit working.

I tried to recreate it with her name as the sender and mine as the
recipient and nothing else, but now ALL messages from her to me go in
there, regardless of who else is in the address.

How do I make it so that just messages from her to me are filtered
into her folder?  I assume that I can do the reverse on outgoing mail
so that messages from me to her go into her folder, as well.  I had it
set up that way, then POOF!, it stopped working.

TIA,
Jeanny

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Re[2]: Filtering question

2005-01-27 Thread Jeanny House
Thursday, January 27, 2005, 3:47:10 PM, Tony Boom wrote:

JH How do I make it so that just messages from her to me are
JH filtered into her folder?

Tony  Send your filter to this list with her name, your name, as they appear in
Tony  the to and from feilds and the folder you want them to go to and it 
should
Tony  be easier for someone on here to work out for you,

BeginFilter
Name: Michelle
Active: 1
Source: \\NWA Mail\Inbox
Target: \\NWA Mail\Inbox\Michelle
Filtering Strings:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender  | Yes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  |Recipient| Yes

I want ONLY messages with those two factors to go into the Michelle
folder.  This is the way I have it set up now.

I do NOT want emails with [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender | Yes
and   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Recipient| Yes
and   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (no matter how many
names in the to or cc or bcc fields)
to go into the Michelle folder.

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Re[2]: Filtering question

2005-01-27 Thread Jeanny House
Thursday, January 27, 2005, 3:45:23 PM, Richard Wakeford wrote:

JH  I had it set up that way, then POOF!, it stopped working.

Richard Weird isn't it. the only thing I've found to do is delete the filter 
and
Richard then set it up again exactly the same as before. It should kick into
Richard action again.

I did that today, but it's filtering any message from her with my name
in the To: field, even if there are other people in the group.  I ONLY
want messages from her to me and vice versa to be in the Michelle
folder.

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Re[4]: Filtering question

2005-01-27 Thread Jeanny House
Thursday, January 27, 2005, 6:16:21 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

Stuart Try copying the following and pasting it into a new filter.
Stuart Then change the account names and addresses appropriately.

Stuart  TB! Message Filter 
Stuart beginFilter
Stuart UID: [A94F7580.01C487AF.76F49386.43107DA2]
Stuart Name: Michelle
Stuart Filter:
Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.org\0D\0A}
Stuart MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMTS\5CThe\20Bat!
Stuart IsActive
Stuart endFilter

I hate to be dense, but how do I paste this into a filter?

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Re[2]: Help! Disappearing address book.

2004-05-14 Thread Jeanny House
Friday, May 14, 2004, 3:41:24 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

Roelof The only thing I can imagine is that it's placed outside of
Roelof your desktop. Have you (or somebody else on your pc) been
Roelof playing with the screen resolution? If so. Do that again (max
Roelof resolution), open TB and the AB, drag the AB to the upper left
Roelof of your screen, close TB, restore your resolution and check TB
Roelof and the AB again. This is the only thing that comes to mind...

I haven't done anything with the resolution, and I don't know how I
might drag something to the upper left when I can't see anything to
click on in order to drag it.

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Re[2]: Help! Disappearing address book.

2004-05-14 Thread Jeanny House
Friday, May 14, 2004, 11:29:38 AM, Mary Bull wrote:

Mary Let me know if this helps?

Thanks, Mary.  Actually, I just backed everything up, removed The Bat!
and reinstalled it.  Now, everything is back to normal.

I'm still at a loss as to why it happened, though.

Jeanny

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Help! Disappearing address book.

2004-05-13 Thread Jeanny House
All of a sudden, my address book has stopped opening up.  It doesn't
matter how I try to open it.  What happens is that on the Windows XP
taskbar, a button appears that says Address Book, but there's
nothing there.  It pretends to maximize and minimize, and the screen
kind of blinks when I click on the Address Book icon or the taskbar
button, but nothing happens.

I downloaded a new version and upgraded.  No difference.

I've closed the program and rebooted several times.  No difference.

How do I get my address book back?

Jeanny

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Easy question

2004-03-31 Thread Jeanny House
This is a simple question, though I've looked in the help and on the
websites and can't seem to find the simple info.

Today for the first time I saw a message come in that had a check mark
on the message flag.  What does that mean?

Thanks,
Jeanny

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Re[2]: Easy question

2004-03-31 Thread Jeanny House
Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 3:29:28 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

Jonathan That the email is signed (PGP or S/MIME), and the signature
Jonathan is valid.

Thanks :)  Is there a code somewhere that I can't seem to find?

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Re[2]: Tooltips

2003-07-07 Thread Jeanny House
Monday, July 7, 2003, 12:39:25 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 How do you make tooltips appear or not?

 just look under help there you will find tooltips.

Thomas Afraid not.

By tooltips do you mean tip of the day? That is available under
Help | Tip of the Day -- just check the Display the Tip of the Day at
Startup box.

Jeanny

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Re[2]: Support for creating HTML message?

2003-06-20 Thread Jeanny House
Friday, June 20, 2003, 3:17:04 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 Is support for creating simple HTML messages coming down the pipe
 any time soon? My son wants to be able to create the color
 messages, big fonts, etc. that his friends are doing with OE.

Jonathan It's already in the BETA versions that are being tested at the
Jonathan moment... so yes... it's in the pipes ;)

Dang.  I hate when that happens.

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Re[2]: Self-duplicating messages and AB entries

2003-06-19 Thread Jeanny House
Thursday, June 19, 2003, 4:28:37 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

Marck Yes. Change the filter(s) concerned and turn on the Advanced
Marck setting Message is unparked.

Aha!  Thanks ever so much!

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Self-duplicating messages and AB entries

2003-06-18 Thread Jeanny House
I tend to use the Park function for stuff I want to hang onto.  Often,
though, these messages continue to clone themselves so I'll have
several copies of the same message in the same folder.  Then I have to
unpark, kill dupes, and repark.  This may be happening when I
synchronise or restore from backup.  Any ideas about what I might do
to make this stop?

Also, every now and then Address Book entries duplicate themselves,
and then even if I have deleted the duplicates, they re-duplicate
themselves.  This one is a mystery to me.

This may come from synching with my laptop.  I guess what I may have
to do, if no one has a more elegant solution is make sure the two are
synchronised, make sure the desktop version has everything I want it
to have, then delete the accounts on the laptop and restore from
a desktop-version backup.  Any better ideas?

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Mailto: association

2003-06-18 Thread Jeanny House
I use Internet Explorer as my browser.  I want The Bat! associated as
the default mailto: client when I click on a mailto: link.  The
association doesn't stick.  I have to re-associate every time I
click on a mailto: link.

Any ideas?

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Re[2]: Mailto: association

2003-06-18 Thread Jeanny House
Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 1:12:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

neurowerx We've had that only a few days ago in
neurowerx mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and following
neurowerx replies.

Sorry, I was out of town and didn't catch up with all the mail :)

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Re[2]: Self-duplicating messages and AB entries

2003-06-18 Thread Jeanny House
Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 7:23:30 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

JH I tend to use the Park function for stuff I want to hang onto.
JH Often, though, these messages continue to clone themselves so
JH I'll have several copies of the same message in the same folder.
JH Then I have to unpark, kill dupes, and repark. This may be
JH happening when I synchronise or restore from backup. Any ideas
JH about what I might do to make this stop?

Allie This would happen to me when I manually filter a folder containing
Allie Parked messages. The filter matches parked messages and move them to a
Allie new location. Since the parked message cannot be moved, a copy of the
Allie parked message is created in the other location. With each running of
Allie the filter, a new copy is created.

I bet this is it.  So, what do you do when you want to manually filter
a file that has parked messages?  Is there some way to make this not
happen?

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Filtering question

2003-06-09 Thread Jeanny House
I want to set up a filter so that all messages between my secretary
and me go into a separate folder.  However, the ONLY messages I want
in there are messages that have no other recipients -- no CC, no BCC
to anyone.  We are both often copied on memos, minutes, etc from
various committees, and I want all that to stay in my regular inbox.

How do I set up a filter for incoming mail that says, if the sender
is Michelle and the only recipient is Jeanny, filter to this folder
and a corresponding one for outgoing mail that says if the sender is
Jeanny and the only recipient is Michelle, filter to this folder.

My brain isn't finding the logic for how to do this, so I rely on you
all, my gurus!

Jeanny

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Re[2]: Filtering question

2003-06-09 Thread Jeanny House
Monday, June 9, 2003, 1:33:12 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote:

Bill Since you need two conditions on the filtering strings, click
Bill Add.  In the first field, type Jeanny's string.  In the second,
Bill type Michelle's string and change location to Recipient.
Bill Finally, give your new rule a name and move the rule high enough
Bill it your list of incoming filters.

Right.  But if an email is addressed to Jeanny, Susie, Bob, Mary, and
Ted all on the TO: line, then that would get filtered into the folder
that I want just mail between and Michelle to go into, wouldn't it?
That's what I want to avoid.

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Re[2]: Synchronising?

2003-04-04 Thread Jeanny House
Friday, April 4, 2003, 3:23:45 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

Julian Network - originally a wired peer to peer network, but I have just
Julian gone wireless with a wireless ADSL Router.

I have a wireless router for my cable service.  What do I have to do
to set it up for synchronizing with TB?


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Re: Synchronising?

2003-04-03 Thread Jeanny House
Thursday, April 3, 2003, 12:19:39 PM, Barry Higginbottom wrote:

Barry  Can someone explain in easy steps how to carry out a synch
Barry  between the two machines from scratch?

Barry,

I just did this a couple of days ago and I think it worked.  Keep in
mind the my desktop computer is the one that I keep up to date all the
time.  When I synch, I want the laptop to catch up to the desktop.

1.  I started with the laptop, clicked on Tools  Synchronise, then
chose Step 1 and created the .TB1 file, which I burned onto a CD.
2.  I put the CD into the desktop and ran Step 2, creating the .TB2
file, which I burned onto the CD.
3.  I put the CD into the laptop and ran Step 3.

The two computers seem to be synchronized now.  The only difference is
that if I had duplicate messages on the laptop and desktop, but
deleted them from the desktop before I synchronized, the synch program
did not delete them from the laptop.  (Does that make sense?)

Jeanny

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Re[2]: RESEND: Stop confirmation of Mark All Read and EmptyFolder...

2003-03-31 Thread Jeanny House
Monday, March 31, 2003, 12:37:09 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 Does  anyone  know  a  way  to  disable the confirmation box for Empty
 Folder and Mark All Read? I just want TB to do it when I say to do it.
 :)

Thomas I, for one, don't know of any way. In fact, I don't think it's
Thomas possible.

It would be something for the Wish List, though.  I agree, I get tired
of clicking on that confirmation box.

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Synchronizing

2003-03-23 Thread Jeanny House
I'm trying to figure out how to synchronise my mail folders between my
desktop, which is my primary computer, and my laptop, which is
secondary.  I am confused by the directions in TB! for synchronizing.

I know there are three steps to this process. I need a little more
detail. Assuming that what I want to do is bring the laptop up to date
with the desktop which is always the most current, do I start with
Step 1 on the desktop, then take that file to the laptop and do Step
2, then go back to the desktop for Step 3?  Or do I do it in reverse?
Or does it matter?

Thanks in advance for making your replies as simple as possible :)

Jeanny

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Changing name of sender

2003-03-05 Thread Jeanny House
Apologies if this has been asked and answered before.

My mom doesn't use her name when she emails, just her email address.
However, I'd like to have her name show up in the From instead of
her email address.  Is there any way to do a filter that would make
that happen and then still sort it into the Mom file?

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Re[2]: Removing brackets from forwards?? Stupid newbie question. :)

2003-03-04 Thread Jeanny House
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 8:52:42 PM, Newsacct wrote:

N When I forward messages, I like to remove all the s from the
N messages to make them look pretty. Heh!

N How can I do that easily? Anyone?

There's a great little program called eCleaner that'll do this in a
couple of mouse clicks.  You copy what you want to clean, open
eCleaner and click on the appropriate icon (a  with a circle and
slash through it).  It takes out the  and copies the cleaned-up
version to clipboard.

Here's a link:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6492,00.asp

Jeanny

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Changing Order in Groups List

2003-01-31 Thread Jeanny House
I'm trying to change the order in which my groups appear in the Groups
List of my Address Book.  I've tried Ctrl+Drag, Shift+Drag, and
Alt+Drag.  None work.  I'm sure this is another one of those esoteric
things TB allows but never bothers to tell one how to do.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

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Re[2]: Changing Order in Groups List

2003-01-31 Thread Jeanny House
Friday, January 31, 2003, 11:14:32 AM, Anne wrote:

A Friday, January 31, 2003, 3:34:14 PM, Jeanny wrote:

JH I'm trying to change the order in which my groups appear in the Groups
JH List of my Address Book.  I've tried Ctrl+Drag, Shift+Drag, and
JH Alt+Drag.  None work.  I'm sure this is another one of those esoteric
JH things TB allows but never bothers to tell one how to do.


A I couldn't find any way to change this order either... mine are
A alphabetical based on group name, but I like them that way. :-)

I wouldn't mind that.  Mine are listed in the order in which they were
created, and I don't like them that way.

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Re[4]: Changing Order in Groups List

2003-01-31 Thread Jeanny House
Friday, January 31, 2003, 11:33:24 AM, Spike wrote:

S On my system (see specs below), ALT-drag moves the folder up/down
S (leaving it above the folder highlighted when the mouse is
S released).  Using CTRL-ALT-drag allows you to place it IN the
S folder highlighted when the mouse is released. :-)

Right, this happens for my message folders, but not for my Address
Book groups.

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Re[2]: Changing Order in Groups List

2003-01-31 Thread Jeanny House
Friday, January 31, 2003, 4:06:41 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

A H I wonder why mine went to alpha order then? It's odd as they
A just did it by themselves - I haven't changed them at all.

RO Neither did I, but I've got them alphabetically sorted too.

Ah, silly me.  When I closed TB and restarted it, they went to
alphabetical order.  That's ok, though I'd still rather set my own
order.

Jeanny

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Reply to All w/ selected text

2003-01-29 Thread Jeanny House
Ok, now that I've fallen love with highlighting text and pressing F4
to quote only that little bit on a reply, I want to know if there's a
way to use that feature and make the reply go to the sender and anyone
who's been CCd.

Thanks,
Jeanny

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Re[2]: how do i filter out mails without a TO: in the selectivedownload

2003-01-27 Thread Jeanny House
Monday, January 27, 2003, 4:02:05 PM, Gerard wrote:

G This might not solve your missing TO: but most Spam is not directly
G addressed to you but done via a BCC. You could therefore consider
G filtering on TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] presence NO.

That's what I do, and it works like a charm, eliminating nearly all
spam from my inbox.  However, it also eliminates any other mail on
which I'm BCC'd, so I have them stay marked as unread in my trash
folder and check them before I mark them read. There's probably an
elegant little work-around, but this seems to do the trick for me.

Jeanny

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Virus checking on outgoing mail

2003-01-27 Thread Jeanny House
I know that everyone says that The Bat! is essentially virus-proof.  I
still have NAV scan everything that comes in.  Is it necessary to have
it scan outgoing mail, too?  That seems to take quite a bit longer.

Thanks,
Jeanny

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Re: Why AOL email as attachments inside attachments?

2003-01-27 Thread Jeanny House
Monday, January 27, 2003, 9:47:51 PM, jwayne wrote:

j Anybody else see this?  Know why it happens?

AOL treats all forwards as attachments. From one AOL user to another,
they show up inline, but anywhere else, they are attachments. And if
it's forward that's been through several people, you'll get the
attachment in the attachment in the attachment in the attachment
syndrome. I agree with you, though. It's darned annoying.

Jeanny

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Viewing multiple recipients

2003-01-21 Thread Jeanny House
Is there any way to get the To:, CC: and BCC: fields to expand so that
when I am sending something to many people, I can see who all is
listed or when I receive something send to multiple recipients, I can
see who else got it?

Right now, I highlight, copy, and paste into Notepad, but there must
be an easier way.

Thanks,
Jeanny

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Re[2]: Stripping HTML files

2003-01-18 Thread Jeanny House
Saturday, January 18, 2003, 3:41:33 PM, Greg Strong wrote:


GS I think she want this done automatically on receipt of the message. She
GS does NOT want to do it manually.

This is correct. However, I have always had TB keep attachment files
in a separate directory.  I also have them deleted when the message is
deleted (after having had the attachment file balloon unmercifully
before I discovered that option g).

What I really want is for TB to see that there is HTML, make an
attachmen of the HTML-written message, then make it go away all by
itself.  I read the messages in the preview pane almost all the time.
I just find that extra column with the attached file icon annoying.
It's not a big deal, but it would be cool if the HTML file could just
go away.

I think Thomas came the closest to understanding what I want to do,
and I'll have to settle for his answer.

Thanks to all :)

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Cut line

2002-11-05 Thread Jeanny House
I'm sorry to revisit the cut line discussion, but I notice a lot of
inconsistency in the operation thereof.

In all my messages from TBUDL, the cut line works just fine.  However,
in most of my other mail, the whole sig gets quoted.  Is there
something I'm supposed to change in a template or something?

Jeanny

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The Bat and AOL

2002-09-25 Thread Jeanny House

I use AOL to connect to the internet when I'm on the road because
there are so many local phone numbers to choose from.  I can download
email from my server with TB! and the AOL connection, but I can't send
mail from TB!.  TB! is set up just the same way on my laptop and my
desktop, so it seems I ought to be able to send/receive mail the same
and just use AOL for my access to the internet.  I'm thinking it's
some kind of firewall, but I'm not sure.

Is there any way around this?

Thanks,
Jeanny

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Re: The Bat and AOL

2002-09-25 Thread Jeanny House

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:14:45 +0200, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 ON Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 3:57:19 PM, you wrote:
 
 JH I use AOL to connect to the internet when I'm on the road because
 JH there are so many local phone numbers to choose from.  I can
 download
 JH email from my server with TB! and the AOL connection, but I can't
 send
 JH mail from TB!.  TB! is set up just the same way on my laptop and my
 JH desktop, so it seems I ought to be able to send/receive mail the
 same
 JH and just use AOL for my access to the internet.  I'm thinking it's
 JH some kind of firewall, but I'm not sure.
 
 JH Is there any way around this?
 
 Hi Jeanny,
I am not an AOL expert but it might have to do with your dial up
account being linked to a telephone number.
 
Have a look at this tread: Re: global option for smtp server
It describes how to install a SMTP server program. That should make
it possible to send mail from whatever connection you are on.

Actually, I figured it out.  The Bat! on my laptop has to be set up to
have the SMTP server be aol.com if I'm trying to send through AOL.  I
tried that today (stumbled upon it, actually), and it worked for the
first time.

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Re[2]: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Jeanny House

Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:05:49 PM, Allie C Martin wrote:

ACM You don't have to be a beginner to find TB! intimidating or too much
ACM to handle. IMO, it really depends on your needs and what you want
ACM out of it as well as your willingness to wade through its feature
ACM rich interface to use the features you wish to use, with the comfort
ACM that if you wish to do more demanding tasks, you'll very likely be
ACM able to do it with TB!, rather than have to find yet another
ACM solution.

I'm not a beginner, but I find I know less and less about computer
stuff as time goes on.  I could navigate around MS-DOS pretty well,
then settled into the easier stuff of Windows and never kept up.  I
know that I only use a fraction of the potential of TB! but it's such
a useful fraction that I'll never go back to another program.

I do wish I understood a little more of what you folks were saying to
each other, though . . . sigh

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Disappearing Ticker

2002-08-17 Thread Jeanny House

Help! All of a sudden, my MailTicker has disappeared.  I've always had
it set to display messages that are filtered to certain folders, but
not to others; however, now, it's just not popping up at all.

I'm using TheBat! v. 1.61 under Windows XP Professional.

Any insight would be appreciated.

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Re[6]: Disappearing Ticker

2002-08-17 Thread Jeanny House

Saturday, August 17, 2002, 4:43:11 PM, Alexis Haeringer wrote:


AH Just for be easy to you ?
AH  Perhaps
AH  just for to be easy to you?
AH  ??
AH  ^___^

AH  Sorry for this amazing OT !

Alexis,

I might say, Just to make it easier for you.

And you did!  Whatever you sent me worked beautifully, and I now have
my ticker back.

Merci bien, mon ami!

Jeanny

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