Re: SMTPUTF8
On Thursday, May 11, 2023, 13:31:55, Ian A. White wrote: > This happens when I try and send a message using my ISPs mail server but not > always. Can you post the full error line? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Space expands to house the people to perform the work that Congress creates. -- Washington's Law Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTPUTF8
On Monday, May 8, 2023, 00:08:51, Ian A. White wrote: > I am getting messages returned with something about SMTPUTF8 This error usually means that the mail client tried using a non-ASCII character in the envelope (typically a typo in the e-mail address, though I'm not sure how TB would trigger this, because it properly encodes non-ASCII addresses). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > It's on the other side. -- Preudhomme's Law of Window Cleaning Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reloading v6.0.12 msi
On Friday, January 6, 2023, 17:15:24, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Alas, no such file exists on either of our two computers. Any other ideas? Can you post a screenshot of the search bar? Also, can you try hiding it (right-click any toolbar [but not inside the textbox in search bar], and untick Quick Search)? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget. -- Cheops's Law Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reloading v6.0.12 msi
On Thursday, January 5, 2023, 23:43:32, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > My wife's search bar has migrated to obscuring part of the account tree. > Nothing > I've tried will get it to move back to it's original location; not click & > drag > nor selecting/de-selecting the search function in the header utilities. I > still > have the 6.0.12 msi file in her downloads folder and wondered if I could just > re-run the msi file or will that change everything that has been set up for > years? I also still have the v5 keyblock which I think was used to unlock her > current TB! version. Re-running the MSI file is unlikely to change anything, since those settings are per-user, and installers don't touch user settings at all. Instead, check if you have userdef.xml file in the mail storage directory, and if you do, try renaming it – I think that file contains toolbar position settings. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > There is no traffic until you start to back out of your driveway. -- First Law of Driving Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: turning off automatic copyright symbol with (c)
On Friday, December 16, 2022, 10:22:40, Avram Sacks wrote: > As an attorney, I am frequently needing to cite statute and regulation > subsections in e-mails. Often, I need to type a "c" within parentheses in > order to indicate a particular section's subsection, such as SSA § 202(c). > However, in normal typing, "(c)" automatically changes to "©" unless I use a > work-around by typing a space between the "c" and one of the parentheses, and > then, later, using the backspace key to close up the space. This is tedious! > How can I turn off this "feature?" I see nothing in the "Preferences" > window that addresses this. This seems to be a feature of the PureHTML editor, and I haven't found a way to turn it off. If you switch to RichText editor instead (which is slightly more limited), the changing doesn't happen. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If the assumptions are wrong, the conclusions aren't likely to be very good. -- Burns's Balance Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
On Saturday, June 25, 2022, 14:07:36, Tom wrote: > So, you guys never felt the need for this ? With 152 gb I would expect TB to > be quite slow to open and having proper backups to be a pain? Used to be that TB was a bit slow (=5 seconds) to open folders with more than ~9000 messages, but this hasn't been the case in a while (despite me keeping the message base on spinning rust, not SSD). As for why I keep all of it? Because it's less work than not keeping it. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys. -- Van Roy's Law Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I test TB! V on a time limied basis before purchase?
On Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:24:27, Chris Wilson wrote: > Thanks Jernej and MAU, that's remarkable, I never thought that would still be > an option. I really do like my threading lines :) You'll probably also like the option next to it - "Use denser display of items" :) -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everything costs more and takes longer. -- Pournelle's Law of Costs and Schedules Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slimming Down the database / Archiving
On Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:25:45, Chris Wilson wrote: > Watching with interest 40 + GB of mail and attachments here, which stored in > the current database is ridiculous 152 GB here… -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Any fool can make a rule, and every fool will mind it. -- Thoreau's Rule Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I test TB! V on a time limied basis before purchase?
On Friday, June 24, 2022, 22:33:10, Chris Wilson wrote: > Only disappointment so far is that in my preferred threaded view mode the > interconnecting lines between messages have gone and are replaced by arrows > and unmarked indents. I do not suppose there's a way of getting the thread > lines back is there? Preferences → Other options → Display old-style lines in treeviews -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > In order to get a loan you must first prove you don't need it. -- Bankers Axiom Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I test TB! V on a time limied basis before purchase?
On Friday, June 24, 2022, 11:33:33, Chris Wilson wrote: > Silly me, the 30 day trial offer is prominent on the Ritlabs home page, my > apologies. But what's the difference between the auto updating versions and > the none auto updating ones please? Auto-updating version will update itself automatically in the background (similar to how most browsers update), while the regular version requires you to update it manually whenever a new release is made. > Is there much to importing a very large message and attachment base from this > v5.8.10 version to the current one along with my filters, address book and > Sorting Office settings? Make a backup first (in case you decide to return to older version), but other than that, the new version should import the old messages and filters automatically. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Usefulness is inversely proportional to reputation for being useful. -- Greenberg's First Law of Influence Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
On Friday, June 24, 2022, 06:23:01, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Thanks Jernej. It seems you are correct. In my version 6 the path described by > Miguel does not yield OAUTH. Fortunately I had/have little use for Gmail so > it's > not a great loss. You might be able to generate an app-specific password in gmail web interface to use with The Bat. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Super-competence is more objectionable than incompetence. -- Peter's Observation Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
On Thursday, June 23, 2022, 17:53:36, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Where does one get OAUTH? Is it part of TB!? It is, but only since version 7 or 8. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The user does not know what he wants until he sees what he gets. -- Thoughts on Programming, Number 52 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (Sort of) New User Questions
On Thursday, June 9, 2022, 20:17:55, Fred Weissman wrote: > 1- I'm a plain-text person, not HTML. I will use it for email when > absolutely necessary. I want my new messages -and- my replies to be in > plain-text. Where and what are the proper settings to make this the default > no matter what format the reply is? Check out the options in Preferences → Viewer/Editor, everything you need is there. > 2- Perhaps related to #1, when I add an attachment to a new message or a > reply, it becomes part of the body of the message. In v2 I was to have > attachments as icons in a pane to the left of the message editor. Again, how > can I make this the default? Not sure about this – my attachments always appear in a separate pane. > 3- In regards to this mailing list (TBUDL) how can I change my email address? > I signed up with one address, but am now needing to change to another. Check if there's an option at <https://web3.networkexchange.de/cgi-bin/mailman/options/tbudl>, but otherwise you have to unsubscribe with old address and subscribe with the new one. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Clearly stated instructions will consistently produce multiple interpretations. -- Boyle's Fourteenth Law Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail
On Thursday, June 9, 2022, 19:17:46, MAU wrote: > I have not upgraded to v10 and I use OAUTH with no problem. OAUTH support was added in version 7 IIRC. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If nobody uses it, there's a reason. -- Rule of Reason Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RFC-Headers
On Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 02:00:49, Thomas ML wrote: > However, on my new Asus laptop, F9 seems to be a system shortcut putting the > laptop into sleep (for which I usually use Win+L). Press Fn+F9; it's usually also possible to toggle the F-keys back to normal either in BIOS Setup (the setting is usually named something like "Media keys"), or by activating Fn-lock (the Fn key combination for this depends on model). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Chicken Little only has to be right once. -- Firestone's Law of Forcasting Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail and two-step verification and The Bat
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 08:45:42, Avram Sacks wrote: > But, where is the "app password" supposed to be entered? You use it instead of the regular password. But you should just switch the authentication type for GMail to OAuth, you won't need the app password then any more. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A good place to start from is where you are. -- Wolf's Law of Planning Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Infinity symbol on application icon
On Friday, October 22, 2021, 05:04:38, Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > I don't know whether it is technically possible, but I would like to see the > number of unread messages when using small icons... of course. Not when using Windows badge support (but it would be possible if TB modified its application icon manually). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > When you are right, be logical. When you are wrong, be-fuddle. -- McKenna's Law Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Infinity symbol on application icon
On Saturday, August 28, 2021, 12:14:12, Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > FWIW this is ticked over here, but I have never seen the number of messages > (or any infinity symbol) in the taskbar icon. It does flap, though. You need to have badges enabled in Taskbar properties, too (and you can only do that if you don't have small icons enabled). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > One child is not enough, but two are too many. -- Otoole's Axiom Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account tree design
On Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 20:32:44, Adrian Godfrey wrote: > I still don't see a space (blank line) between folders whether that box is > checked or not. There's no blank lines between folders, just a bit of change in spacing – see the attached image. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Them what gets -- has. -- Wakefield's Refutation of the Iron Law of Distribution Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting folders in the account tree
On Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 23:01:29, Dwight Corrin wrote: > I just installed on a new computer, and I cannot for the life me remember how > to sort the account tree. If you want to do it manually, hold down Alt, and you can drag the folders around. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Doing it the hard way is always easier. -- Paradoxical Law Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F50FE5DF]: Scrambled addressbook message templates after upgrade
On Monday, June 21, 2021, 09:02:06, Ian A. White wrote: > After upgrading from version 4.2 to version 9.3.4, ALL my message templates > for address groups in the addressbook are horribly scrambled. They appear as > HTML source code converted to something like UTF-7 or UTF-8. > Does anyone know of an online tool that can be used to make easier sense out > of this "dialect"? > So far, the online tools take the scrambled text and simply repeats it with > no conversion. > The problem is I have dozens of these templates that need updating. If you have a backup from before you did the upgrade, I suggest you reinstall the old version and restore the backup, then upgrade through all intermediate major versions: <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive-versions.php> (don't forget to run TB once after each upgrade, maybe also check a template or two) -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Experience varies directly with equipment ruined. -- Morner's Rule of Thumb Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 7232C0F3]: Upgrading The Bat!
On Sunday, June 20, 2021, 09:49:49, Ian A. White wrote: > Now, those up with everything will know whats going however I have not the > foggiest idea as to what the +ACU- and +ACI means and why it is there. That looks like UTF-7 encoding (+ACU- is %, +ACI is "). No idea why the templates were corrupted like that, maybe the format changed at some point, and the conversion code didn't trigger properly. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The leak in the roof is never in the same location as the drip. -- Cannon's Cogent Comment Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting office: delete block
On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 14:04:48, Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL wrote: > You can delete block when the related AND/OR selector is selected OK, my problem is that the block is the first thing in the list, so it doesn't have a related operator. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Opportunity always knocks at the least opportune moment. -- Ducharme's Precept Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Specific item display color
On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 22:49:24, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Since moving to the new laptop I notice that the color of the last selected > email (using WORKPLACE > WINDOW SPLIT MODE > FULL WIDTH PREVIEW PANE) is so > pale > gray that it's barely discernable from the alternately colored email lines. > This is > most apparent when moving from one folder to another and back. Is there a way > to > change or eliminate those alternately tinted lines? Preferences → Message list → Odd/Even row contrast -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > I can't give you brains, but I can give you a diploma. -- Ozian Option Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup with Errors
On Saturday, May 9, 2020, 20:13:08, David Elliott wrote: > Stream read error "E:\Users\Administrator\The > Bat\Mail\Elliott\Inbox\MESSAGES.TBB" Data error (cyclic redundancy check) Try copying (not moving) this file to another directory; if you're successful, delete the original file, then move the copied file back. If the copy isn't successful, it's likely that your disk is dying - make a backup at OS level, and restore it to a new disk. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Much work, much food; little work, little food; no work, burial at sea. -- Cook's Law Current version is 8.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restoring lost mail and application through data recovery
On Friday, December 20, 2019, 10:14:47, Achdut18 wrote: > Finally, in order to restore the application what is the file that > should be recovered?Is it the .exe file, or the .msi file, or > something different? I do have the product key, if needed. The > lost application was an early iteration of version 8 of The Bat! Pro. Don't worry about .msi and .exe files - you can download those. What you want are the files with messages, which are stored in .TBB files, and maybe their indexes in .TBN files (but those can be rebuilt). If you ever created a backup from within The Bat, those are stored in .TBK files. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Actually, it only SEEMS as though you mustn't be deceived by appearances. -- The Obvious Law Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unknown CA Certificate
On Monday, January 7, 2019, 17:42:50, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Anyone have any idea as to why this is happening? Try switching from The Bat's internal implementation to Microsoft CryptoAPI - that way TB will use Windows certificate store, which gets regular updates instead of relying on it's own (which might be out-of-date, especially if you have an older version of TB). You can switch that in Options -> S/MIME and TLS… -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Live within your income, even if you have to borrow to do so. -- Billings's Law Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview pane and main menu disappeared
On Friday, January 4, 2019, 17:05:55, Mike Greenbaum wrote: > I'm not sure I have the correct term, but the preview pane, the > part of the main screen which shows me a preview of the message > below my list of emails, has disappeared. I have no idea how to get > it back. I did a search for Preview Pane, but that gave me nothing. Try Workspace -> Message Auto View (Ctrl+Shift+E). > Also, my main menu has disappeared. This is the menu which has > File, Edit, etc up at the top. Again, I don't know what I did to > cause it to disappear, but can anyone suggest a way to get it back? That's a harder one - I've got no idea how to make the menubar disappear. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. -- Malek's Law Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning?
On Wednesday, November 28, 2018, 11:38:11, Gunivortus Goos wrote: > What has gone wrong? The file might be corrupted - try using Folder -> Maintenance centre -> Check integrity/Repair -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > There is a solution to every problem; the only difficulty is finding it. -- Evvie Nef's Law Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! throwing up root certificate issue window on GMAIL account
On Sunday, August 20, 2017, 19:43:14, Chris Wilson wrote: > I don't see that option in this version of TB!, perhaps it's only > available in later ones? Thanks for the reply. Look for "S/MIME and TLS" menu item, it should be there. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > When your opponent is down, kick him. -- John's Axiom Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! throwing up root certificate issue window on GMAIL account
On Saturday, August 19, 2017, 15:39:50, Chris Wilson wrote: > Can someone more knowledgeable than I suggest what's happening and how > to solve it please? Thanks. Apologies if it's not a Bat! problem, help > still welcome! Make sure you've set up TB to use Windows Certificate Store, and not it's own. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > Pills to be taken in twos always come out of the bottle in threes. -- Davis's Basic Law of Medicine Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message base index file
On Saturday, July 1, 2017, 1:22:09, Tom wrote: > Jernej, I am not sure - what I can say is that the disk is definitely > not full. I never said your disk was full. > Unfortunately I can't follow your suggestion as copying the > TBB file is not possible. I said that your disk may have problems, and if you can't copy the TBB file from Windows, this pretty much confirms it - you most likely have a failing hard drive, and you should take a full backup immediately. You can also try to run hard drive diagnostic tool from the manufacturer of your disk drive - some of them offer the ability to relocate bad sectors (this usually results in some data loss, but you can copy the files that got stuck afterwards). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > The usefulness of any meeting is in inverse proportion to the attendance. -- Kirkland's Law Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message base index file
On Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 6:22:29, Tom wrote: > "cannotcompressthefolder xxx. Stream rea error " > E\TheBatmessages.tbb" The request could not be performed because > of an I/O device error". This could indicate a disk problem. Try copying the messages.tbb file to another folder (make sure The Bat is closed first), delete the original, then move the copy back, and run Maintenance afterwards. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > Spend sufficient time confirming the need and the need will disappear. -- Ed's Fifth Rule of Procrastination Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message base index file
On Monday, June 26, 2017, 14:45:33, Tom wrote: > thank you - I just did this and had to abort after about 4 hours. The > process starts normally but then after going through the first folders > quite quickly, it seems to get stuck somewhere in the main one. While > the green process bar "pretends" to work, nothing more seems to be > happening. The same goes for stopping the process, it does not stop > and eventually I need to kill TB via task manager. > I suppose even for a folder with 4000 emails it should not take that > long? Try selecting just the problematic folder. In my experience, the Maintenance centre gets stuck on IMAP folders, but should process regular folders fairly quickly (I've got folders with more than 10 messages, and it takes a few minutes to process them). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > One good turn gets most of the blanket. -- Ellenberg's Theory Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message base index file
On Monday, June 26, 2017, 9:10:00, Tom wrote: > I take it there is no special command to do the reindexing? Try using Folder -> Maintenance Centre, and have "Check integrity/repair" selected. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > The wider any culture is spread, the thinner it gets. -- Law of Raspberry Jam Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?
On Saturday, February 25, 2017, 16:36:09, Adrian Godfrey wrote: > Windows 10 has a nasty habit of resetting file associations to the > "Microsoft defaults". I am having this issue with PDFs. First they get > reassociated with Edge, Look for EdgeBlocker - this stops Edge > starting, but then they get reassociated with TWINUI after some > unpredictable time of setting it back to what it should be. That works > for a while, but eventually it gets reset. Try setting the association through Control Panel -> Default applications - that's the only way to get the association to stick with a program. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > Opportunity always knocks at the least appropriate moment. -- Law of Adult Opportunity Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?
On Tuesday, March 7, 2017, 23:43:34, MFPA wrote: > I have been hearing that for years but never encountered it myself. I know of several ISPs that do it, and I do it myself on the networks I manage (especially those that are intended for [more or less] general public). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > In matters of dispute, the bank's balance is always smaller than yours. -- Checkbook Balancer's Law Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring Exchange mail in TB! - How?
On Thursday, February 16, 2017, 2:31:50, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > I usually use POP3, but I have a new email address and the > organisation gave me the log-in credentials: Try using the following URL in TB for configuring Exchange: https:///ews/exchange.asmx (where is the server that hosts Outlook Web Access) -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > Look after the molehills and the mountains will look after themselves. -- Peter's Law of Substitution Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send from outside IPS area
On Saturday, July 2, 2016, 18:00:15, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Would these settings cause the problem and if so, what should they be changed > to? Or, is there some other reason why TB! should act this way? The ISP's servers probably allow sending mail without authentication when you're connecting to the from inside ISP's network. Try enabling SMTP authentication for the server (same username and password as for receiving e-mail), to see if that'll allow you to send from other networks (you may also have to enable STARTTLS or TLS connection; with STARTTLS also try port 587 if 25 doesn't work). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. -- Greenhaus's Summation Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 14:48:49, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > How would I do that? - I do like avast!, and I don't know whether > Windows Defender is as good. Options -> S/MIME and TLS -> select Microsoft CryptoAPI. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > Find out the cost before you get in. -- Taxi Principle Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 5:39:32, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > 22-Mar-16, 11:26:51: FETCH - Issuer: generated by avast! antivirus for > SSL/TLS scanning, avast! Web/Mail Shield, avast! Web/Mail Shield Root. Your antivirus is doing a MITM attack on the connection, which is why it's failing. It might work if you switch TB to use the Windows certificate store, but such MITM actually leaves you more vulnerable. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > The faster the plane, the narrower the seats. -- Durrell's Parameter Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Win 10 problem
On Friday, September 11, 2015, 19:54:57, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Cannot open file: "C:\Program Files(x86)\The Bat!\jackADDRBOOK.INI" Access is > denied. Something is very wrong if TB has account files inside Program Files - that location is read-only for non-admin processes (which The Bat is), which is why you're having problems. I suggest you create a full backup (from within TB), then start anew restoring from said backup (which should place account files inside your user profile folder). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > If God had intended us to go around naked, He would have made us that way. -- Olum's Observation (and see Martha's Maxim and Farrow's Finding) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Regex to clean up subject
On Monday, August 31, 2015, 5:04:44, Rick Grunwald wrote:
> Someone once gave me an excellent regular expression that would clean
> up the subject of things like [this] and {that}
> I lost it along with all my mail in a hard drive crash
> If someone has it, could you kindly repost it?
Here's the one I use:
%SETPATTREGEXP=/^(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(\[[^\]]*\]\s)|(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(?:\[[^\]]*\]\s*)?)?)%-
\s*(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(?:\[[^\]]*\]\s*)?)*%-
(.*?)%-
([\(\[].+[\)\]])?$/%-
%RegExpBlindMatch="%OSubj"%-
%Subject='Re: %SUBPATT="1"%SUBPATT="2"'
--
< Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ >
Life is what happens to you while you are making other plans.
-- Knight's Law
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming mail size?
On Saturday, April 11, 2015, 1:44:19, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Is there a limit on the size of incoming emails set by TB? I recently had sent to me a couple of emails each of which contained about 15MB worth of attachments. TB choked and wouldn't download any of the emails from the server because of this. I sometimes get mails that are much larger than that (up to 100MB), and TB never had any problems with them. It's possible that the server is choking, not TB. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Beauty is only skin deep, ugly goes to the bone. -- Absolute Principal Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing default reply for reply button on toolbar
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015, 7:47:38, Achdut18 wrote: Is this possible? Can I reset the default for that reply button so that it populates the to field of the outgoing message with the text that appears in the from field of the message to which I am replying? If so, can you provide step-by-step instructions that explain how to do this? I use a reply template which contains the following for mailing lists that don't set the Reply-To header: %SETPATTREGEXP=:\s*(([^@]+)@[^]+)%- %RegExpBlindMatch=%OHEADER(List-Post)%- %TO=%TO='%ofromname on %- [%SUBPATT=2] %- %SUBPATT=1'%- This will populate the To address with sender's name and mailing list name, and the address from the List-Post header in the message. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Anything is possible if you don't know what you'retalking about. -- Green's Law of Debate Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to View new messages two computers with TB! ?
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 21:16:55, Robert D. wrote: On either instance of TB!, A filter examines the Inbox, then filters a message to one of several Common Folders. This is your problem. If you want to keep the messages on both computers, filter them to other IMAP folders, not to local ones. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Nature abhors a vacuous experimenter. -- Campbell's Law Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's a .TBB file?
On Friday, December 12, 2014, 19:53:20, Robert D. wrote: been maxing out on my 65gb HDD; not convenient at present to buy a new one then xfr everything over. So I see this app/roaming/The Bat! file bat26DF.TBB 11/25/2014 weighing in at 3,941,835KB and wonder if I can read it with TB and see why I have it. This looks like a leftover temporary file - I suggest you move it elsewhere, wait a few days, and if TB doesn't complain in this time, delete it. then there's also the WIN7 winsxs weighing in at 10,977,094KB. But I've never figured out how to really sley that dragon. Reduced wht Win-7 web site suggests but that hardly makes a difference. WinSxS is your Windows - you can't make it smaller. Note however that it's apparent size on disk is deceptive - all of Windows' other system files (in C:\Windows\System32, C:\Windows\SysWoW64, and in Microsoft's directories in Program Files) are actually just links to files in WinSxS. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Doing it the hard way is always easier. -- Paradoxical Law Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font size
On Monday, December 1, 2014, 5:25:08, Tom wrote: Thank you very much - very useful. The one thing I am still searching for is where to set the font inside the actual email message window and the preview pane. Look in Preferences - Viewer/Editor - Profile layout; in addition, Ctrl+mousewheel also works. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Anticipated events never live up to expectations. -- Levy's Second Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't enter registration code block
On Sunday, October 5, 2014, 3:44:47, MFPA wrote: UEFI-mode and Secure Boot in the BIOS are two newish features that came out somewhere around the same time as Windows 8. I have not encountered them myself, but saw when googling this topic that they need to be disabled before installing Windows 7. UEFI has been around for a long time, and x64 Windows supported UEFI booting since Vista SP1 (note that due to some stupidity in Vista and 7 bootloader, BIOS compatibility [CSM] must be enabled, otherwise Windows won't boot). Only SecureBoot is new in Windows 8, and must be disabled to install 7. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Anyone who says he isn't going to resign, four times, definitely will. -- Galbraith's Law of Political Wisdom Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't enter registration code block
On Sunday, October 5, 2014, 15:11:03, Paul Van Noord wrote: UEFI mode is needed when using an SSD as a primary drive. It is needed in Windows 7. See this: https://www.google.com/#q=uefi+mode+when+installing+windows+7 Nope, I bought my first SSD 2009, but haven't gotten an UEFI-capable motherboard until 2013. What is highly recommended for SSD is to have the SATA controller in native (AHCI) mode, and not in IDE-emulation mode (these settings are independent of BIOS/UEFI booting though - both are available with either). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Everything happens at the same time with nothing in between. -- Robertson's Law Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't enter registration code block
On Friday, October 3, 2014, 22:16:17, MFPA wrote: Doesn't Microsoft have a semi-official way to upgrade from 8 to 7, like they did a few years ago for those who wanted to upgrade from Vista to XP? OEM installs of Windows 8 Pro can legally downgrade to Windows 7 Pro, but not Windows 8 (without Pro). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Good times end too quickly. Bad times go on forever. -- Time Observation Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
On Sunday, August 24, 2014, 14:44:14, MFPA wrote: That may be version-specific, as it is slightly different here. Hm, possible - I'm running v6 here. Anyway, the other trick (copying filters to Notepad) should still work. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Do whatever your enemies don't want you to do. -- Sinner's Law of Retaliation Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
On Friday, August 22, 2014, 16:01:52, Adrian Godfrey wrote: I learned that the hard way by not putting all my filters in common filters in the first place. I'm gradually moving them all there out of the individual accounts. Actually, you can copy all filters associated with an account at once - just right-click the parent tree node, and select Copy there. Additionally, you can copy individual filters, paste them in Notepad (one after another), then copy the entire text from Notepad, and paste them as filters in another account. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Them what gets -- has. -- Wakefield's Refutation of the Iron Law of Distribution Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to import a root certificate
On Thursday, July 17, 2014, 7:24:36, Tom wrote: How do I import a root certificate. You can import the certificate through Address Book, but I suggest you instead switch The Bat to use CryptoAPI - it'll then automatically use any certificates you have in Windows (you can do this through Options - S/MIME and TLS). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Ideal goals grow faster than the means of attaining new goals allow. -- Wober's SNIDE Rule (Satisfied Needs Incite Demand Excesses) Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TLS and POP
On Friday, June 13, 2014, 16:40:05, Tom wrote: How can I fix this -any help is greatly appreciated. First post the relevant lines from the log - you can see the log by clicking the statusbar. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Never buy a car that has a wick. -- Ford Pinto Rule Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hiding CC with a note in CC field
On Thursday, April 10, 2014, 17:53:32, Assad Kety wrote: Yes I know about BCC. Actually, I'm sending all my cc as bcc but would in addition like to include a note in the cc field like this: List Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]. However, the email won't go because no valid email in cc. I wonder if it is possible to send like this anyway? If you leave To and CC fields empty, many mail servers will put Undisclosed recipients in the To field. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Of two possible events, only the undesired one will occur. -- Garfinkle's Law of Quality Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Enlarging incomimg mail body test
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 15:27:02, Forums wrote: Thanks - was hoping it would be simpler than that. Will have a play with that. Click inside message body, hold Ctrl, then scroll with your mousewheel. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Build a system that any fool can use and only a fool will use it. -- Fifth Rule on Fools Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need Advice on Backing Up and Reinstalling
On Monday, February 17, 2014, 15:21:11, Mike Greenbaum wrote: I called Dell support, and after trying a number of other workarounds, they've decided that my Windows 7 has become corrupted--or at least some files on it have--and I need to have the operating system reinstalled. Have you tried entering the product key from the sticker under the notebook? Usually this works around the problem. 1a. Will I be able to reinstall the same version of The Bat? It has given me no problems, and I seem to be reading that people are having problems with version 6. I still have the thebat_pro_4-2-44.msi file from when I originally installed it and I do have my Key Block. Yes, it should work without problems. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Those who expect the biggest tips provide the worst service. -- Tipper's Law Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure E-mail again!
On Thursday, February 6, 2014, 10:08:37, Tony Brookes wrote: I tried in Outlook and it works using the settings attached (also uploaded to http://www.tonybro.com/Outlook.JPG as attachment was stripped last time). These Outlook settings translate to: SMTP: STARTTLS, port 587 POP3: TLS, port 995 Note: Require secure authentication checkbox in SMTP Authentication dialog changes which authentication protocol is used, but doesn't affect the connection security - in most cases you'll leave that checkbox blank; similarly, most servers only support Regular POP3 authentication. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If you're feeling good, don't worry, you'll get over it. -- Law of mental health Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure E-mail again!
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 23:30:37, Peter Meyns wrote: They may have specified port 587 for SSL, but for TLS the port should be 465 as The Bat! automatically selects. This works fine with German 1und1, and it has done so for years, so I suggest you try that port too. Port 587 is submission, and it uses either no encryption, or STARTTLS (SSL/TLS might work, but usually doesn't). Port 465 is smtps, and it always uses SSL or TLS. Note that some Microsoft's programs incorrectly call STARTTLS just TLS. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ A smoker is always attracted to the non-smoking section. -- Dhawan's Third Law for the Non-Smoker Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
On Sunday, January 26, 2014, 23:14:12, MFPA wrote: How/why is that a good plan? You can read the rationale here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn302074(v=vs.85).aspx -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If there is a wrong thing to say, one will. -- Hartig's How Is Good Old Bill? Didn't you know we're divorced Law Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
On Saturday, January 25, 2014, 3:22:29, Rick wrote: That is the internal build number for 8.1 - it is in my sig too It's not - 6.2 build 9200 is Windows 8, while 8.1 is 6.3 build 9600. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ He that lives upon Hope dies farting. -- Franklin's Observation Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
On Saturday, January 25, 2014, 14:50:31, Rick wrote: I updated my template, yet it shows 9200 Like I said, Windows 8.1 pretends to be Windows 8 unless the program is marked as being 8.1-compatible in it's manifest. The plan going forward is that programs won't be able to check if they're running on a newer Windows version than the highest one they're marked as being compatible with (and you can't mark your program as being compatible with a future Windows version, because Microsoft doesn't reveal the compatibility GUID until the public beta versions are available). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Washing your car to make it rain doesn't work. -- The Unapplicable Law Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attaching an e-mail to another e-mail
On Friday, January 24, 2014, 18:13:02, Achdut18 wrote: I want to send an e-mail that has a separate e-mail attached to it. I do not wish to embed the e-mail that I wish to attach into the body of the text of the e-mail that I am sending.How do I accomplish this? Specials - Alternative forward. If you find yourself forwarding e-mails as attachments often, go to Account - Properties - Templates - Forward, and check the Forward messages as attachments checkbox, then you'll just need to click Forward to send the message as attachment (and Alternative forward will instead forward inline). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Good times end too quickly. Bad times go on forever. -- Time Observation Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! version signature
On Saturday, January 25, 2014, 0:13:57, Cafe Noir wrote: I just got a new Windows 8 computer, updated it to version 8.1 The Bat! signature says Windows 6.2 Build 9200. Anyone know why this is? Windows 8.1 pretends to be Windows 8 unless the program is specifically marked as Windows 8.1-compatible (and the same thing will happen in further Windows versions - they'll pretend to be the highest version the program is marked as being compatible with). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The bus that left the stop just before you got there is your bus. -- First Law of Bus Transportation Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What does this mean in my account log?
On Friday, January 17, 2014, 23:10:24, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 011E8403, algorithm: RSA (512 bits), issued from 10/5/2012 10:19:13 PM to 9/30/2032 10:19:13 PM, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com. It occurs repeatedly, every three minutes -- the frequency configured for checking mail. And should I be concerned about it? The line is part of the normal TLS handshake, and usually wouldn't matter. However, the certificate it's announcing doesn't look right - 512bit RSA is insecure (even 1024bit RSA has been phased out), and nobody issues end-entity certificates that are valid for more than 5 years, so you should check why you're seeing that certificate (it almost certainly means that somebody is doing a man-in-the-middle attack with it, thus being able to read all messages you download). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The idea is to die young as late as possible. -- Montagu's Maxim Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't send
On Monday, December 9, 2013, 7:31:09, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Same message every time I try. Assuming this gets through does anybody have any ideas? Since it's trying to connect to 127.0.0.1, I'd check that whatever program you use as POP3 server or proxy on your computer is actually running. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ When you dial a wrong number, you never get a busy siginal. -- Kovac's Conundrum Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Errors in new build
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 8:56:19, Jenny Zonneveld wrote: Now in Build 6.0.10 I have a problem when the program starts, there is a 'confirm' message box hidden under the splash screen. I can just get the mouse to click on a millimeter of the buttons, and after doing this about 10 times the program does proceed to start up normally. What does the message say? If you can't see it, press Alt+Spacebar on keyboard, which should open a menu. Choose Move from that menu, press an arrow key on the keyboard (doesn't matter which one, but you have to press it), then you can move the window with your mouse (don't click until you see it - just move the mouse). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Never let hold of what you've got until you've got hold of something else. -- The First Law of Wing Walking Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stream write error
On Monday, October 21, 2013, 3:16:17, Achdut18 wrote: How can I fix this? Try adding the file to the exceptions list in your antivirus. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The most expensive component is the one that breaks. -- Law of New Fangled Gadgetry Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search function freezes
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 11:52:12, Forums wrote: It has been running without problem until recently the search function (F7) freezes on searching a particular account. In that account I have noticed that some emails cannot not be read and there is a popup which says Cannot read the base header. I was wondering if this is causing the problem and if so is there a way to rebuild the messages. Currently there are over 1200 messages in it. Click Folder Maintenance Centre, select the folder and select Check Integrity/Repair. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The only things that start on time are those that you're late for. -- Cayo's Law Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unacceptable wrapping result
On Thursday, September 5, 2013, 10:41:58, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: No, the only confirmation that I have that a posting of mine has reached the list is when someone responds. That's a gmail feature - it hides your own messages from you. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ A smoker is always attracted to the non-smoking section. -- Dhawan's Third Law for the Non-Smoker Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Invalid ssl certificate
On Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 19:24:22, Jack wrote: Does any know how to fix this or have any suggestions? Try switching to Microsoft CryptoAPI (Options S/MIME and TLS Microsoft CryptoAPI). That'll make The Bat use the Windows certificate store instead of it's own. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Everybody lies; but it doesn't matter since nobody listens. -- Liebermann's Law Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transfer rather than backup and restore
On Saturday, January 19, 2013, 23:48:21, ETM wrote: I have a huge amount of mail. Can it be moved from one computer to another by transferring files and folders rather than backing up and restoring the material? Yes - copy the entire folder structure, then just point The Bat at it when you start it for the first time. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If things were left to chance, they'd be better -- Langin's Law Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrading to win 8 questions
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 23:53:20, Melissa Reese wrote: Windows 7 is clearly an upgrade from XP. I'm not so sure about Windows 8 - much too early to tell. It definitely is. If the lack of Start Menu annoys you, there's Classic Shell http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ (free, but it's Start Menu is somewhat quirky) or StartIsBack http://startisback.com/ ($3 for 2 computers, but it's nearly identical to Windows 7's Start Menu). Also, currently the upgrade to Win8 Pro costs 30€, while upgrade to Windows 7 is around 200€. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Spend sufficient time in confirming the need and the need will disappear. -- Peter's Prognosis Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parsing Subject line when replying of forwardin
On Monday, November 5, 2012, 2:19:18, Rick wrote:
I am in some Yahoo groups. Each group ads an identifier in the
subject, [bracketed text that can vary]
I would like to parse out the brackets and text. Is there any way to do that?
Thanks in advance
You can't alter the display of these subjects, but it's possible to
remove the text when replying or forwarding by using macros.
This should do it:
%SETPATTREGEXP=/^(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(\[[^\]]*\]\s)|(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(?:\[[^\]]*\]\s*)?)?)%-
\s*(?:(?:[^:]{0,4}(?:[\[\(]\d+[\]\)])?:)?\s*(?:\[[^\]]*\]\s*)?)*%-
(.*?)%-
([\(\[].+[\)\]])?$/%-
%RegExpBlindMatch=%OSubj%-
%Subject='Re: %SUBPATT=2'%-
--
Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/
An ounce of image is worth a pound of performance.
-- Peter's Placebo
Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restoring theBat after hard drive failure.
On Monday, September 10, 2012, 22:22:44, Leonard Berkowitz wrote: 3. Invoke the restore prodedure that I have seen somewhere in theBat (where is it, exactly). IIRC, The Bat offers you to restore the backup during the first startup. Otherwise just use Tools Restore. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If at first you don't succeed, transform your data set. -- Law of Computability Applied to Social Science (Brook's Law) Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration
On 30. avgust 2012, 9:31:22, Alto Speckhardt wrote: Wasn't that changed in the key concept revolution somewhere just before v5 release? It used to work like this, but didn't they change it to a subscription model? Or were those plans dropped again? Those plans were dropped because users didn't like them. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Because 10 billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral... it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration
On 29. avgust 2012, 16:04:43, Alto Speckhardt wrote: what am I supposed to buy if I want to extend my existing TheBat registration? My registration data is valid up to and including the version I'm using now (v5.0.36.2), later versions don't accept this key anymore. You have a v4 key, which is valid for from version 4.0 up to 5.0.99 (which is why it works for 5.0.36.2). Is there an update offer? On the RIT page (or that of their German representative) I could only find version updates (v2 - v5) or category updates (Home - Pro), not extension updates (plus 1 year.) Buy an upgrade key to v5, and you'll receive a key that's valid for versions up to 6.0.99. This is just the way RIT handles registration keys (there's no time extensions - keys are valid for specific versions). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Because 10 billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral... it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New XEROX: LOWEST COLOR cost per page in industry! Lease online today
On Monday, April 16, 2012, 23:47:22, Marck Pearlstone wrote: And I make no apology about the fact that in accordance with the list rules, this member is now banned for life for spamming the list. If this is an US company, I'm pretty sure the e-mail is not in accordance with CAN-SPAM act, which should carry a fine should somebody report them. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts. -- Ehrlich's Rule Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert LINK?
On Friday, November 18, 2011, 16:00:32, Edward Germain wrote: Thanks to the people who replied here and via direct email. Bottom line: I wonder why TB! can't put in hyperlinks. Shouldn't be difficult to code. Then you could have a click here instead of long URL's that even TinyUrl can't compress enough. URL's get in the way of communicating, sometimes. Did you read my message till the end? -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Possessions increase to fill the space available for their storage. -- Ryan's Application of Parkinson's Law Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert LINK?
On Thursday, November 17, 2011, 21:28:55, Edward Germain wrote: I'm in a jam. I need to get a complicated email out quickly, but it has looong URLs in it. And I don't know (or don't remember) how to turn a URL into a link. You know, like to here. Would very much appreciate a reminder of how to do this. Or can't you do this in TB? If you're sending out a plain text message, just paste the link - TB won't wrap it, and nearly every e-mail client out there will treat the link properly: http://hugeurl.geeks.org/?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 Another option is to use HTML message, where you can use the URL button (looks like a globe with chain link). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The grass is brown on both sides of the fence. -- Ed Yourdonradar's Fundamental Truth Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail Certificate problem -Fixed...
On Sunday, June 19, 2011, 19:04:53, Dean wrote: Now, that may not be the correct way for this to be working, but it did fix my problem. It does explain why the problem was solved/worked around: Kaspersky is doing a man-in-the-middle attack on your SSL connection to be able to inspect messages. To make this work, it adds it's own root certificate to the Windows certificate store, so when programs check if the certificate is trusted, they find it is - but this only works when the programs use Windows' own certificate store. By default, The Bat doesn't, so it alerts you that something weird is going on. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Laziness is the mother of nine inventions out of ten. -- Saunders's Discovery Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail Certificate problem -Fixed...
On Sunday, June 19, 2011, 5:51:52, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Please share the solution with us. Others might encounter the same problem. My guess is that it was caused by Kaspersky Antivirus. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If it can go wrong, it will go wrong. -- Murphy's Law Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail problems
On Monday, May 16, 2011, 18:04:28, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: Sorry. Here is the message: Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: This looks like some kind of a problem at your ISP - GMail's incoming servers are rejecting the message relayed by the SMTP server you're using. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Anything worth doing is worth doing for money. -- Donohue's Law Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Display properties
On Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 0:53:35, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Aha! Sort of confirms what Marek said. However, if I do what MFPA suggested and bring up PROPERTIES by right-clicking on the desktop, then go to the APPEARANCE tab, it shows that I'm using NORMAL, not LARGE fonts. This is somewhat confusing, but Windows lets you set the font size in 2 places: Appearance (which affects very few things) and in Settings (last tab) - Advanced (which affects nearly everything, sometimes in bad ways). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ In a free market good money always drives bad money out of circulation. -- Baxter's Third Law of Free Market Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Display properties
On Monday, April 25, 2011, 22:05:23, MFPA wrote: Try right-clicking a blank space on your desktop and select properties from the context menu. Or find display in the Control Panel. Theme in Jack's pictures is the default XP theme though (with Large fonts enabled, but that shouldn't cause the problem he's seeing). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If you can't beat them, have them join you. -- Wolf's Law of Tactics Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invalid security
On Sunday, March 27, 2011, 20:33:48, Gunivortus Goos wrote: Is it possible to deactivate that message to make the automatic periodical mailcheck possible? He should check why exactly TB thinks the connection is insecure - maybe the provider's using a certificate that TB doesn't know (in this case it might be enough to switch S/MIME and TLS in Options to MS CryptoAPI, assuming the certificate is installed in Windows' certificate store). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Whichever carousel you stand near, your baggage will arrive on another one. -- Basic Baggage Principle Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start another account's TB
On Friday, March 4, 2011, 10:51:28, Mark Partous wrote: Is it possible, in Windows XP, to open TB, installed in account X, from within account Y, so that all changes (new messages, changes to settings etc.) are actually being registered in account X, without affecting the non-opened TB in account Y? Hold Shift, right-click TB's icon and select Run as, then enter the other account's username and password (account has to have a password set for this to work). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Live within your income, even if you have to borrow to do so. -- Billings's Law Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restoring an account
On Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 2:44:35, Jim Kyle wrote: TB is so much better than Thunderbird that I can hardly wait to get back to it! Hint: set up scheduled backup once you get it to run - that should make such disaster recovery easier :) -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ You cant push on a rope. -- Second Law of Physics Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
On Friday, February 11, 2011, 10:56:56, Akebono Translation Service wrote: P.S. The mail is encoded in utf-8 and the source clearly says ym, not µ If the source says something like a href=http://www.example.com/foo?bar=ym=baz; that's illegal HTML, and the result is not surprising. All characters in HTML must be written as amp;. If a bare appears in source, different HTML parsers will do different things - some will remove and all alphanumeric characters following it, others will just remove the , some will leave as-is and some will try to interpret the entity even though it's missing the finishing ; (which is what seems to be happening in your case). None of these behaviours should be relied on. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Science is Truth. Don't be misled by fact. -- Finagle's Creed Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
On Friday, February 11, 2011, 15:58:53, Sam Brown wrote: That's accurate except in this case. The reason the character shouldn't be used in HTML is because it's a key element in the parsing of URLs (the character separates parameters in the URL). So in this case, where the character is actually in a URL, that is a perfectly appropriate usage of the character as it is separating the key value pairs bar=y and m=baz. No, should always be escaped in HTML - URLs are no exception. The HTML parser sees fooamp;bar=baz and knows that the URL has to be foobar=baz. on it's own is illegal in HTML, however since way too many people incorrectly assume that they can use without escaping it, most browsers will treat without ; following it as if amp; was written. You can see that here: http://eternallybored.org/misc/thebat/test.html - first URL uses amp; properly, second one doesn't. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. -- Kensington's Observation Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known bug?
On Friday, February 11, 2011, 19:41:20, Jonathan Bayer wrote: You aren't seeing the escapes behind the scene. While you may see that in your browser, if you look at the source you will see amp instead of the ampersand. It really depends - some of Google's URLs use amp; and others use just . -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ On the TV screen, pure drivel tends to drive off ordinary drivel. -- Kitman's Law Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, 16:32:34, Mark Partous wrote: This PC (XP): 8 minutes to boot. Sometimes it takes 3 boots before it starts up, because it hangs twice (almost at the end of booting). If that happens I have lost half an hour. Problem first occurred after Professional insurance software to connect to several insurance companies' servers had been installed. Make sure your hard drive isn't dying - slow boot up is often a symptom of that (of course, if that VPN software you installed has broken drivers, that's not Windows' problem). I don't have any XP machines anymore (except in VMWare), but I don't remember seeing any that needed more than 2 minutes to boot, even on slow laptops. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Nobody notices when things go right. -- Zimmerman's Law of Complaints Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 21:59:04, Jonathan Bayer wrote: Hello Jernej, Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 3:46:51 PM, you wrote: Err, what's the point of Registry then? Something to hide parameters, configuration items, etc from the general user. It is fragile, and the system won't boot if it is broken. Times of Windows 9x and it's fragile registry are long in the past. I haven't seen registry corruption (that wasn't a direct result of hardware failure) on Windows 2000 or newer. If everything that's currently reading and writing the registry would use separate files instead, your computer'd work either much slower (because everybody would be flushing those minuscule changes in small files all the time), or configuration file corruption would be an everyday occurrence. And while this isn't really important for home users, without Registry you also lose the ability to control programs from a central location (which is very important in corporate networks - you don't want the admin to visit every machine, or write a separate script for every program). IMHO, the registry is the worst thing about Windows. I can live with everything else, but the registry is the one thing that breaks windows more often than I can count. Really? In my experience, by far the most often cause of Windows breakage is various spyware, followed by dying hard drives, bad drivers and bad RAM (but these three together don't account for even half of the spyware cases). I don't remember when I last saw registry corruption, and there's a lot of computers I deal with. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If a computer cable has one end, then it has another. -- Lyall's Conjecture Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, 14:32:33, Mark Partous wrote: Reading / loading the data of all programs that reside on a computer at startup is overkill, particularly those programs of which one knows, even at the time they are being installed, that they will only be used a few times (or even only once) a year. Who says all data is loaded? Registry is a database, records are loaded when they are needed, and then paged out when not needed anymore. The data format is just optimised for quick updates, and the data is journaled so that unexpected shutdowns leave the contents in consistent state. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Nothing can be done in one trip. -- Cook's Second Law of Travel Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, 15:58:08, Jeff Gaines wrote: Not in the Program Files directory since the days of Vista though! Actually, Program Files never was the right place for configuration (or any other kind of volatile data) - even Windows NT 4 (released in 1996) did not let non-admin users write there. The only thing that Vista changed is that all programs by default run as if a limited user was running them, precisely to force programmers to start writing their software properly (UAC was never meant to be a security feature). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ A bird in the hand is safer than one overhead. -- Newton's Little-known Seventh Law Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, 16:35:38, Jonathan Bayer wrote: You may work in a corporate environment, but half the world is not corporate. I include small businesses in that. What's small business for you? We mostly deal with small businesses (3-30 computers, most under 10). Configuration files are not written to that often, so your comment about flushing misuscule changes is irrelevent. I'd rather have a single conf file corrupted rather than the entire registry corrupted. Get Process Monitor and let it capture events for 10 seconds, then filter everything but Reg* events. You'll see that there are 50-100 registry operations done every second on average. However, I don't get your idea that conf or ini file corruption would be an everyday occurrance. If the registry doesn't get corrupted that often, why would individual files get corrupted any more frequently? Simple: Registry is a database, with a journal. If a write gets interrupted, Windows will almost always be able to restore it to a consistent state. Most programs that use custom config files just edit that file in place, and if that gets interrupted, it will often leave you with empty file, or a file that has half of the contents missing. One _major_ advantage to separate conf/ini files is that it can be much easier to migrate a software package from one system to another. And a major disadvantage is that if the program lets you run multiple copies of itself, it'll need to have some kind of config file locking implemented. And why is it difficult to control programs from a central location with separate files? If all the conf files are stored in a single directory (such as /etc on Unix/Linux), I don't see any difference. You can consider the individual files as a database, with each table stored in a separate file, if you like. Consider this very simple scenario: you have a terminal server. Both internal users and external users work on it. You want to let internal users have unlimited internet access, but want to allow external users only access specific pages on your intranet. This is very simple to do with group policies in Windows, which control Registry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fanatic about Linux vs. Windows. I use Windows every day, even though my main job currently is a Linux administrator. Windows is, at present, the best OS for a desktop, although several Linux distributions are catching up. Linux, on the other hand, is IMHO better at servers than Windows. I do recommend Windows when it is necessary and appropriate, and recommend Linux the same way I administer both, and while Linux certainly is sufficient for some tasks, there's a lot it's lacking when it comes to desktop use (specifically when you need to remotely administer groups of machines for desktop users). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ If it works, don't fix it. -- First Rule of Rural Mechanics Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 20:36:00, MFPA wrote: but also believe such settings should be stored in the software's own settings files rather than clogging up the registry. Err, what's the point of Registry then? -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The public is always wrong. -- Stock Market Axiom Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
On Monday, January 31, 2011, 14:19:18, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Yes, but: The next time I open Search, the deleted items is shown again. The Search window will always display at least 4 conditions when opened. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Build a system that any fool can use and only a fool will use it. -- Fifth Rule on Fools Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Just tried 5.0.0.132 for a few minutes...
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 18:08:04, Marck Pearlstone wrote: SPV ...it was not the best experience I've had with TB. ... snip Version 5 is an unreleased beta version, not for discussion in the UDL. Please sign up to TBBETA and communicate there. Thank you. ...but please do post the complaint there, because the hints (pop-ups) really are an annoyance. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made. -- Glyme's Formula for Success Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
