Re: Gmail Shortcuts

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL]

Hello Paul,

> I should have said that I have tried to customize the keyboard shortcuts 
> using the customized tool. However this doesn't work very well because if I 
> assign say A to 'reply all' when I press A within the email editor, as I'm 
> typing a word TB launches a new window. It doesn't seem to understand the 
> context well. Any tips?

Here are the main ones: 

1. Main Window's main menu shortcuts can be used from other windows, so you 
should be careful assigning shortcuts to there.
2. Single-character shortcuts should not be used in main menus of any window as 
they will intercept those characters from input controls, so it is recommended 
to use them in local menus of lists or those controls that are not using text 
input.



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Re: Gmail Shortcuts

[Paul Meathrel]

I should have said that I have tried to customize the keyboard shortcuts
using the customized tool. However this doesn't work very well because if I
assign say A to 'reply all' when I press A within the email editor, as I'm
typing a word TB launches a new window. It doesn't seem to understand the
context well. Any tips?

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 18:51 Paul Meathrel,  wrote:

> Hi there
>
> Just wondered whether the bat allows us to use standard Gmail shortcuts
> within the app? I've grown quite used to using these in other email apps
> and wondered if the bat supported this?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Paul
>
>

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Gmail Shortcuts

[Paul Meathrel]

Hi there

Just wondered whether the bat allows us to use standard Gmail shortcuts
within the app? I've grown quite used to using these in other email apps
and wondered if the bat supported this?

Thanks


Paul

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 28 October 2015 at 1:25:46 AM, in
<mid:185484464.20151028082...@gmx.net>, Thomas Fernandez wrote:




> I just checked this:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help.php?q=shortcut

> But couldn't find "assigning keyboard shortcuts".  


On that page, select the link for "Program interface" and then scroll
down about two thirds of the page (14 times on my screen), you get a
brief mention: "In the Shortcuts section you can check the shortcuts
set for certain program actions and specify your own shortcuts. You
can also remove shortcuts if needed." 

And it is in the help file for my TB! version, although the menu route 
listed to get there is incorrect.


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 26 October 2015 at 9:48:00 PM, in
, Robert Bull
wrote:



> It certainly does!  As I wrote to Jack, it's a pity
> these answers aren't collected into some kind of Wiki
> or Evernote-style knowledge base.  


A few years ago there was a "The Bat! User Documentation Project" at 
 but I think it 
kinda fizzled out and the URL (which Firefox says I added to my 
Bookmarks on 24/10/2004) is no longer active. 

Whilst I was there, I noticed the Roguemoticons login page is still
working at .


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:12:14 + GMT (28-Oct-15, 03:12 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

>> It certainly does!  As I wrote to Jack, it's a pity
>> these answers aren't collected into some kind of Wiki
>> or Evernote-style knowledge base.  


> A few years ago there was a "The Bat! User Documentation Project" at 
> <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php> but I think it 
> kinda fizzled out and the URL (which Firefox says I added to my 
> Bookmarks on 24/10/2004) is no longer active. 

I just checked this: https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help.php?q=shortcut

But couldn't find "assigning keyboard shortcuts".

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[MAU]

Hello Jack,

> Ctrl+Space seems to be a built-in option found in the message editor under
> UTILITIES - INSERT QUICK TEMPLATE. I doubt it's changeable since it's a part 
> of
> the UTILITIES drop-down menu. But, there are others on this list who know
> infinitely more than I about TB!, so I could easily be proved wrong.

Yes, it is changeable. These are the steps to do it:

1.- Open a text editor window (i.e. new message)
2.- Right click on the toolbar and select 'Customise'
3.- On the Customise window, on the the left of the Menu & Toolbar tab
(Containers) select Main menu.
4.- On the top left, select the Shortcuts tab. Main menu will now show
expanded.
5.- Expand 'Utilities' by clicking on the + on the left.
6.- Double  click  on  'Insert  Quick Template' end the Shortcut Edit
window will open.
7.- Select Ctrl+Space a click on Remove button.
8.- On  the  right,  where  'none'  is  shown,  type your new desired
shortcut and hit the Add button. Confirm your new setting and then
click on the OK (or Cancel) button of Customiser

HTH.

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Robert,

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:41:18 PM you wrote:

RB> Yes, indeed  :)  There are clearly gaps in the Help file; pity these
RB> nuggets aren't collected into some kind of knowledge base.

You took it out of my thoughts, but I was afraid it was too OT. 
No trout please!

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Robert Bull]

On Monday, October 26, 2015, 10:50:12 AM, MAU wrote:

> Yes, it is changeable. These are the steps to do it:

> 1.- Open a text editor window (i.e. new message)
> 2.- Right click on the toolbar and select 'Customise'

I wouldn't have thought to right-click the toolbar, and would have
floundered amongst all the subsequent options.  Your instructions are
*admirably* clear.  Many thanks!

> HTH.

It certainly does!  As I wrote to Jack, it's a pity these answers
aren't collected into some kind of Wiki or Evernote-style knowledge
base.


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Robert Bull]

On Monday, October 26, 2015, 1:32:51 PM, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

M>> Yes, it is changeable. These are the steps to do it:

> See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.

Yes, indeed  :)  There are clearly gaps in the Help file; pity these
nuggets aren't collected into some kind of knowledge base.

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[MAU]

Hello Maggie,


JSL>> Thanks MAU.
>
JSL>> See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.
>
> I saw this just as I was flagging and parking the directions to
> change the shortcut. I realized that many of my flagged and
> parked messages were from MAU, so I'd like to add my thanks, too.

You  are  very  welcome.  After being retired for seven years, it is a
nice feeling to see that I can still be useful for something ;-)


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, October 26, 2015 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Ctrl+Space seems to be a built-in option found in the message editor under
>> UTILITIES - INSERT QUICK TEMPLATE. I doubt it's changeable since it's a part 
>> of
>> the UTILITIES drop-down menu. But, there are others on this list who know
>> infinitely more than I about TB!, so I could easily be proved wrong.

M> Yes, it is changeable. These are the steps to do it:

M> 1.- Open a text editor window (i.e. new message)
M> 2.- Right click on the toolbar and select 'Customise'
M> 3.- On the Customise window, on the the left of the Menu & Toolbar tab
M> (Containers) select Main menu.
M> 4.- On the top left, select the Shortcuts tab. Main menu will now show
M> expanded.
M> 5.- Expand 'Utilities' by clicking on the + on the left.
M> 6.- Double  click  on  'Insert  Quick Template' end the Shortcut Edit
M> window will open.
M> 7.- Select Ctrl+Space a click on Remove button.
M> 8.- On  the  right,  where  'none'  is  shown,  type your new desired
M> shortcut and hit the Add button. Confirm your new setting and then
M> click on the OK (or Cancel) button of Customiser

M> HTH.

Thanks MAU.

See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.

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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Maggie Meister]

Hi Jack,

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:32:51 AM you wrote:

JSL> Thanks MAU.

JSL> See Robert, whaddi tellya. Best tech support in the world.

I saw this just as I was flagging and parking the directions to
change the shortcut. I realized that many of my flagged and
parked messages were from MAU, so I'd like to add my thanks, too.

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Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Robert Bull]

I keep hitting Ctrl+Space accidentally when in the message editor,
bringing up the "Select Quick Template" dialog when I don't want it,
and wish to change the shortcut to something else. Help says

-
The Shortcut Editor is available in most of The Bat!'s non-modal
windows (such as main window, separate message browser, address book,
message editor) - you can invoke it by using the View|Edit Shortcuts
menu command of any of such window.
-

but I can't see such an entry under any View menu I've looked at.

Suggestions - please?


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Re: Changing keyboard shortcuts

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Robert,

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 you wrote:

RB> I keep hitting Ctrl+Space accidentally when in the message editor,
RB> bringing up the "Select Quick Template" dialog when I don't want it,
RB> and wish to change the shortcut to something else. Help says

RB> -
RB> The Shortcut Editor is available in most of The Bat!'s non-modal
RB> windows (such as main window, separate message browser, address book,
RB> message editor) - you can invoke it by using the View|Edit Shortcuts
RB> menu command of any of such window.
RB> -

RB> but I can't see such an entry under any View menu I've looked at.

RB> Suggestions - please?

Ctrl+Space seems to be a built-in option found in the message editor under
UTILITIES - INSERT QUICK TEMPLATE. I doubt it's changeable since it's a part of
the UTILITIES drop-down menu. But, there are others on this list who know
infinitely more than I about TB!, so I could easily be proved wrong.

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Re: Changing Keyboard Shortcuts

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ian,

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:47:23 +1100GMT (6-3-2013, 5:47 , where I live),
you wrote:

IAW Where do you change the keyboard shortcuts?

 Workspace - Toolbars - Customise - Shortcuts
 For older versions it was
 View - Toolbars - Customise - Shortcuts

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customize keyboard shortcuts

[Christian Buhtz]

Is it possible to customize the keyboard shortcuts?
For example Strg+F5 for mail-reply is still unergonomic.



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Re: customize keyboard shortcuts

[MFPA]

Hi

On Tuesday 3 November 2009 at 6:29:31 PM, in
mid:hcpssc$8f...@ger.gmane.org, Christian Buhtz wrote:


 Is it possible to customize the keyboard shortcuts? For
 example Strg+F5 for mail-reply is still unergonomic.

In the main TB! window, right-click a blank space in the toolbars and 
pick customise then pick the shortcuts tab...



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Re: No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Aam,

Monday, October 5, 2009, 7:06:57 AM, among other things, you wrote:

aas * I can no longer edit keyboard shortcuts. If I attempt to do so and
aas confirm the change, the window immediately disappears and the change
aas is NOT saved. All shortcuts appear to be frozen from the 4.0.38 status.
This  has  already  been  reported  as  a bug.  Hopefully it will have been 
corrected in the next beta.

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Re: No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, October 5, 2009, Roger Phillips wrote:

aas * I can no longer edit keyboard shortcuts. If I attempt to do so and
aas confirm the change, the window immediately disappears and the change
aas is NOT saved. All shortcuts appear to be frozen from the 4.0.38 status.
 This  has  already  been  reported  as  a bug.  Hopefully it will have been
 corrected in the next beta.

no problem here with 4.2.10.12

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Re: No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[aam]

A Bat-fellow, Roger Phillips,
wrote in mid:1856529699.20091005113...@dbnmail.co.za
on Monday, 5th October 2009 at 11:31:02 (GMT +0200),
which was ditto in Bratislava --

 * I can no longer edit keyboard shortcuts. If I attempt to do so and
 confirm the change, the window immediately disappears and the change
 is NOT saved. All shortcuts appear to be frozen from the 4.0.38 status.

 This  has  already  been  reported  as  a bug.  Hopefully it will have been
 corrected in the next beta.


It *is* corrected, thank heavens. Thanks to the help from the guys in
the Czech Bat! list, I was given the suggestion to try the latest Beta
version, 4.2.10.12, and keyboard shortcuts editing works again. Hooray!

However, as to smileys, these still aren't displayed, despite identical
settings  the presence of the IMAGES folder, as compared to version
3.xx, which is the last time I ever saw smileys displayed here. (Admittedly,
a cosmetic issue compared to the keyboard shortcuts.)

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Re: No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[aam]

A Bat-fellow, myself,
wrote in mid:373027348.20091005120...@avenarius.sk
on Monday, 5th October 2009 at 12:01:54 (GMT +0200) --

 However, as to smileys, these still aren't displayed, despite identical
 settings  the presence of the IMAGES folder, as compared to version
 3.xx, which is the last time I ever saw smileys displayed here.


It looks like this may have been caused by a conflict in versions, too.
Believe it or not, the smileys are *slowly* coming back.  :-O  I wouldn't
have thought this possible, but right now in *some* emails, the smileys
aren't displayed, and in other emails (like this one I'm currently composing),
they are displayed OK. Well... anyway... my warm recommendations to
everyone to upgrade to the 4.2.10.12 Beta version, as it seems to have
worked wonders on my computer, compared to the most recent regular
release, 4.2.10.1, where I could neither see any smileys, nor edit any
keyboard shortcuts...

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No Keyboard Shortcuts Customization, No Smilies After Upgrade

[aam]

Hello, I have just upgraded to the current version of The Bat, 4.2.10.1,
from 4.0.38. After upgrade, the following 2 main bugs occur:

* I can no longer edit keyboard shortcuts. If I attempt to do so and
confirm the change, the window immediately disappears and the change
is NOT saved. All shortcuts appear to be frozen from the 4.0.38 status.

* Smilies do not get displayed, even after activating them  the rich-text 
viewer.
They are present in the standard The Bat! directory in Program Files.

I will appreciate any help. Customizable keyboard shortcuts are essential
for me, and a show-stopper in case they aren't available in the new version.
I would need to downgrade. Thank you very much for any suggestions.

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Editing keyboard shortcuts

[Code 2]

I just upgraded from Version 2.12.00 and I'm trying to figure out
how to edit the keyboard shortcuts. I used to do it with Alt-F12 or
View | Edit Shortcuts.

In Version 4, when I try to make the changes in the Options |
Preferences... | Other Options | System Hot Keys dialog box, I can't
get my changes to stick.

How can I change the Check mail for all accounts function from
Alt-F2 to just F2?

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Re: Editing keyboard shortcuts

[Rick Grunwald]

 How can I change the Check mail for all accounts function from
 Alt-F2 to just F2?

By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
mail for that account only

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Re[2]: Editing keyboard shortcuts

[Code 2]

 How can I change the Check mail for all accounts function from
 Alt-F2 to just F2?

RG By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
RG mail for that account only

That's what I want to change.  I want to reassign the F2 keyboard
shortcut to check all accounts, not just a single account.

I found how to access the keyboard shortcuts in Version 4 --
right-click on the toolbar, click Customise and select the Shortcuts
tab.  Is there an easy way to locate all the instances of F2 in that
enormous list?  I mustn't have changed them all, because when I try to
assign F2 as the shortcut to Get new mail for all, the change still
won't stick.

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Re: Editing keyboard shortcuts

[Rick Grunwald]

 How can I change the Check mail for all accounts function from
 Alt-F2 to just F2?

RG By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
RG mail for that account only

 That's what I want to change.  I want to reassign the F2 keyboard
 shortcut to check all accounts, not just a single account.

 I found how to access the keyboard shortcuts in Version 4 --
 right-click on the toolbar, click Customise and select the Shortcuts
 tab.  Is there an easy way to locate all the instances of F2 in that
 enormous list?  I mustn't have changed them all, because when I try to
 assign F2 as the shortcut to Get new mail for all, the change still
 won't stick.


Under shortcuts main form / main menu / account you will see account
and F2 to the right. Remove that and then you can put F2 where you
want it
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Re[2]: Trouble with SHortcuts

[MikeD (2)]

Hello Roelof,

Thursday, February 8, 2007, 11:57:56 AM, you wrote:

RO Create a quick template with %SetEditor=1%- and define a shortcut
RO for that template.

I'll give that a try, thanks.


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Re: Trouble with SHortcuts

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo MikeD,

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:00:34 -0500GMT (7-2-2007, 22:00 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

M   I was looking to assign a shortcut for 'Options', 'Message Format',
M   'Plain Text' (something like Ctrl-shft-T, for example). But when I
M   go into 'View', 'Toolbar', 'Customize' on a message window, I can
M   only go as far is Message Format. The selections that appear in the
M   Message Format menu are not present in the shortcut display.

Create a quick template with %SetEditor=1%- and define a shortcut
for that template.

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Mod: Cut mark (was: Trouble with SHortcuts)

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo MikeD,

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:00:34 -0500GMT (7-2-2007, 22:00, where I live),
you wrote:

M   Does anyone know if there is there a way to get to that option and
M   assign a quick key or am I just OOL?

You're definitely out of luck as you omitted a cutsign.  eg

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the signature and list footers since everything below and including
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You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in
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Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any
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Trouble with SHortcuts

[MikeD (2)]

Hello TBUDL,

  I was looking to assign a shortcut for 'Options', 'Message Format',
  'Plain Text' (something like Ctrl-shft-T, for example). But when I
  go into 'View', 'Toolbar', 'Customize' on a message window, I can
  only go as far is Message Format. The selections that appear in the
  Message Format menu are not present in the shortcut display.

  Does anyone know if there is there a way to get to that option and
  assign a quick key or am I just OOL?

Best regards,
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Shortcuts for expanding and collapsing threads

[Robin Anson]

Batfolk, 

I want to find, or set, shortcuts for expanding and collapsing
threads. In some earlier version of TB! I could expand or collapse all
threads, or just the email thread I am currently in. In the current
version SHIFT-8 (i.e. *), CTRL-8 and CTRL-SHIFT-8 (i.e. CTRL-*) will
all toggle expanding all threads and collapsing them. The effect of
each appears to be the same.

However when a thread is collapsed it only collapses at the top level,
so that if I open the root of a thread (with right arrow) I see the
entire tree expanded, not just the next level. The only way I can find
to collapse the entire thread completely is to work from each leaf
node of the tree and use the left arrow to collapse to the next node -
a tedious business!

Is there a shortcut in the current version that will collapse the
current or all threads so that I can expand it just to the next level?

I looked for a menu item to expand or collapse threads, so I could
(try to) set a shortcut using the (fiendishly incomprehensible) menu
customisation process, but I was unable to find one.

Can anyone offer a suggestion?

Robin
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Re: Associating shortcuts to view modes

[Robin Anson]

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 at 00:54:23 +0200, Claude wrote:
 Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate
 shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were
 associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc.
 Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view
 mode with a single keystroke.

Well on my copy of TB I still use those shortcuts. I don't recall
ever having to recreate them, so I assumed they were either default
settings in v3.85, or they were inherited from my earlier version.

You seem to be running a beta version - is it a problem with that?

-- 
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Associating shortcuts to view modes

[Claude Renaud]

  Hi all,


Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate
shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were
associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc.
Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view
mode with a single keystroke.
Is it possible to regain this function or should it be added as a future
   feature for 
TB ?


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Re: Associating shortcuts to view modes

[Ben Allen]

Howdy Claude,

Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 11:54:23 PM, Claude wrotened:

Claude Few TB versions ago it was possible as far as I remember to associate
Claude shortcuts to view modes,and if my memory serves me well, there were
Claude associated with shortcuts such as alt+shift+1, alt+shift+2 etc.
Claude Currently it is not possible to quickly switch from view mode to view
Claude mode with a single keystroke.
Claude Is it possible to regain this function or should it be added as a future
Claude   feature 
for TB ?

There  are two options I think. I think you can set shortcuts for view
modes  in  viewtoolbarscustomiseshortcutsviewGlobal  view mode or
you can change the method of threading a message by the following

· None - no threading, all messages are shown individually. Alt + 0

·  References  -  uses  two header fields, In-Reply-To and References,
which both contain unique Message ID's. Alt + 1

· Subject - threads are made up of messages with the same subject line
(minus the Re: for replies). Alt + 2

· Sender - threads by the name/address in the From header. Alt + 3

· Recipient - threads by the name/address in the To header. Alt + 4

But i'm not sure thats what you meant. But thats all I know.





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Re: customiser shortcuts display is crooked

[WL]

On 5/2/06, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi WL,

In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on Tuesday, May 2, 2006, 3:42:36 AM, 
you wrote:

W When I add a keyboard shortcut through the customiser,
W there is a text entry box to enter the keys. It seems off
W kilter to me.

W http://wliao.freeshell.org/shortcut_menu_off_kilter.png

W Just wondering if other people see the same thing as I
W do.

Not here, sorry.  What OS and Font i.e. Large Fonts are you using?

http://www.cg-online.me.uk/1/sceditor.png


I think this is the same thing as the folder property problem:
XP Pro  SP2, 120 DPI, bug 0005817.

Thanks for the confirmation.

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Re: customiser shortcuts display is crooked

[Robin Anson]

On Mon, 1 May 2006 at 21:42:36 -0500, WL wrote:
 When I add a keyboard shortcut through the customiser,
 there is a text entry box to enter the keys. It seems off
 kilter to me.

 http://wliao.freeshell.org/shortcut_menu_off_kilter.png

 Just wondering if other people see the same thing as I do.

I see the same thing. I think it is another bug associated with large
(120DPI) fonts. That's what I have on my system.

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customiser shortcuts display is crooked

[WL]

Hello, all.

I think this is a bug related to the high DPI issue previously
reported as bug 0005817 (TB 3.80.03).

When I add a keyboard shortcut through the customiser,
there is a text entry box to enter the keys. It seems off
kilter to me.

http://wliao.freeshell.org/shortcut_menu_off_kilter.png

Just wondering if other people see the same thing as I do.

Thanks,

--
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Re[2]: Shortcuts not saved

[Philippe Macaire]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 since I upgraded to 3.71.03, it seems some of my shortcuts are not
 saved. [...] Before this last upgrade I had no problems with such
 shortcuts.
 Did anyone experienced a similar behavior?

 Yes, I lost all of my shortcuts when I upgraded to my current TB!
 version, from another recent 3.x version. Next time, just manually
 back up the

 drive:\Documents and Settings\You\Application Data\The Bat!\tbuser.DEF

 file prior to upgrading, to avoid trouble in having to re-create
 some or all of your keyboard shortcuts.

Thanks for the reply, but I did backup my tbuser.DEF, and this was not
the problem.

I'll try to explain the phenomenon more in detail:

* go to the Customise dialog

* pick up a menu item without a shortcut (in my setup: Main Menu /
Main Form - Message / Park)

* you can verify that no shortcut is defined on this item (nothing is
selectable)

* assign Alt-\ as shortcut, and close the Customise dialog

* in the main menu (Message / Park) you can check that the shortcut is
correctly assigned (and it works)

* shutdown and restart The Bat!

* in the main menu (Message / Park) the shortcut no longer appears

* in the Customise dialog, if you select the Park item you can see
that an *empty* shortcut exists, you can remove it, but it is no
longer working as Alt-\


I have the impression that the issue is with the backslash. I could
use another key as shortcut of course, but on my keyboard it is really
handy, and I've been using it for a lot of time...


Can any of you confirm this? Is this a bug that should be reported?


Thanks.



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Shortcuts not saved

[Philippe Macaire]

Hi all,

since I upgraded to 3.71.03, it seems some of my shortcuts are not
saved. Apparently it happens when my shortcut contains the '\'
(backslash) character (e.g. Ctrl+Shift+\). I can define it, then use
it as long as TB is running, but as soon as I close and run again TB,
my shortcut has been cleared. Before this last upgrade I had no
problems with such shortcuts.


Did anyone experienced a similar behavior?


Thanks a lot.


-- 
Best regards,
Philippe.
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Re: Shortcuts not saved

[aam]

A Bat-fellow, Philippe Macaire,
wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Sunday, 19th March 2006 at 23:47:03 (GMT +0100), 
which was ditto in Bratislava --

 since I upgraded to 3.71.03, it seems some of my shortcuts are not
 saved. [...] Before this last upgrade I had no problems with such
 shortcuts.
 Did anyone experienced a similar behavior?

Yes, I lost all of my shortcuts when I upgraded to my current TB!
version, from another recent 3.x version. Next time, just manually
back up the

drive:\Documents and Settings\You\Application Data\The Bat!\tbuser.DEF

file prior to upgrading, to avoid trouble in having to re-create
some or all of your keyboard shortcuts.

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www.avenarius.sk

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Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections

[Allen Day]

  After  a  bit  of  a hiatus from the luxuries of The Bat/client-side
  mail  I've  come  to  find  a  few  things  changed.   While the new
  interface  for  editing  shortcuts/toolbars/menus  is most certainly
  improved   from   the  way  I  remember  it.  I'm having a couple of
  prolbems with it, however.

  First,  conflicts--is  there no way to tell if there are conflicting
  shortcuts  or  am  I missing something?  Also, there are a few items
  called  Shortcut  Collection -- where I'd expected to find all the
  shortcuts   for  the  parent  container,  however  this  isn't  the
  case--there  are shortcuts listed, but by no means all/most of them.
  What's the shortcut collection for?

  Thanks

  A.

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Re: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Allen,

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:06:49 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 13:06 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

AD   What's the shortcut collection for?

You can add actions to the shortcut collection and assign shortcuts to
it, so you won't have to add them to your menu or toolbar.

-- 
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Re[2]: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections

[Allen Day]

Hello Roelof,

Thursday, February 2, 2006, 7:38:09 AM, you wrote:

 You can add actions to the shortcut collection and assign shortcuts to
 it, so you won't have to add them to your menu or toolbar.

Ah,  gotcha -- thanks.  Don't know about how to detect conflicts or is
the answer No ?

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Re: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Allen,

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:46:07 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 13:46 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

AD Don't know about how to detect conflicts or is
AD the answer No ?

I forgot that. But the answer is 'No'.

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Re[2]: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections

[Allen Day]

Hello Roelof,

Thursday, February 2, 2006, 8:10:32 AM, you wrote:

 Hallo Allen,

 On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:46:07 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 13:46 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

AD Don't know about how to detect conflicts or is
AD the answer No ?

 I forgot that. But the answer is 'No'.

Ouch  --  has  there  been  any chatter about conflict detection being
added?



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Re: Shortcuts Conflicts and Shortcut Collections

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Allen,

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:21:49 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 14:21 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

AD Don't know about how to detect conflicts or is the answer No ?
 I forgot that. But the answer is 'No'.
AD Ouch  --  has  there  been  any chatter about conflict detection being
AD added?

Chatter enough, but only wishes, no promises. ;-)

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Shortcuts all messed up and how to do

[Aubrey]

Dear Bats

Yikes. I just installed the Christmas Edition
following an advertisting email from Ritlabs.

No all my dozens of carefully crafted shortcuts are gone.
Having gone carefully through messages on the list
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get
them back. I can get into the customize box, but
what then

Someone please run me through a sequence of events
that will get (as a case example) a shortcut (say
Shift-Control-1 to assign a predefined color group
to a message).

Alternatively how do I get back to where I was
before.

What a mess, and the helpfile bears no relation to
reality.

And even the shortcuts that I seem to be able to
assign don't work (so if I assign control R to
mark a message Read, it still opens the message
for a reply despite altering the apparent shortcut
stated on the right click menu (and even after
removing the shortcut from the previously
designated ^R).

Wish I hadn't installed this. My previous version
3.01 was wonderful and stable. Now I have hours of
disaster on my hands.

 --
Mark



Windows : Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build 2600
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Shortcuts all messed up and how to do

[Aubrey]

Dear Bats

Yikes. I just installed the Christmas Edition
following an advertisting email from Ritlabs.

No all my dozens of carefully crafted shortcuts are gone.
Having gone carefully through messages on the list
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get
them back. I can get into the customize box, but
what then

Someone please run me through a sequence of events
that will get (as a case example) a shortcut (say
Shift-Control-1 to assign a predefined color group
to a message).

Alternatively how do I get back to where I was
before.

What a mess, and the helpfile bears no relation to
reality.

 --
Mark



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Re: Confused about keyboard shortcuts (again)

[Tom Plunket]

Nick Dutton wrote:

 I'd like to set up some keyboard shortcuts to move between messages:
   Forward/Back = ./,

 I have set this up in the View Message Folder section and it works
 nicely when I view each message in its own viewer window.

 I'd also like this to work when I'm reading messages in the regular
 3-panel view.  If I set the shortcuts up in my custom toolbar in the
 Main Form section then they also operate in the compose window.
 This is a real handicap when it comes to punctuation!

 I thought that the scope of the shortcuts should prevent them from
 operating in that window.  Am I wrong, or is it TB!?

I'm also experiencing the same dismay, after another user said, oh I
have Agent shortcuts configured, I did a few, and then every time I
typed an 'r' in the compose window, it popped open a new reply to
myself.  Grr...

How can keystrokes for the main window be stuck in the main window,
and not run over into other windows?  For that matter, if I redefine
single-key actions, can I still use the search toolbar if I manually
put it into focus?


-tom!

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Confused about keyboard shortcuts (again)

[Nick Dutton]

Hello,

I'd like to set up some keyboard shortcuts to move between messages:
  Forward/Back = ./,

I have set this up in the View Message Folder section and it works
nicely when I view each message in its own viewer window.

I'd also like this to work when I'm reading messages in the regular
3-panel view.  If I set the shortcuts up in my custom toolbar in the
Main Form section then they also operate in the compose window.
This is a real handicap when it comes to punctuation!

I thought that the scope of the shortcuts should prevent them from
operating in that window.  Am I wrong, or is it TB!?
  
TIA

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keyboard shortcuts menu

[WL]

Hello, all.

It's been a while since I last used The Bat!, so my memory
may be failing me... I just downloaded and installed 3.51.10.

I recall using a keyboard shortcut editor to assigne shortcuts
for things like menu actions, etc. The help file references
the menu item View-Edit shortcuts as do several emails
in the archives. However, I cannot seem to find this item. Does
it still exist?

WL
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Re: keyboard shortcuts menu

[Mary Bull]

Hello WL!

On Monday, August 29, 2005, 1:10 PM, you wrote:

 It's been a while since I last used The Bat!, so my memory
 may be failing me... I just downloaded and installed 3.51.10.

This version has a completely new interface.

 I recall using a keyboard shortcut editor to assigne shortcuts
 for things like menu actions, etc.

Yes. This is now found in View/Toolbars/Customise

 ... The help file references
 the menu item View-Edit shortcuts as do several emails
 in the archives. However, I cannot seem to find this item. Does
 it still exist?

Some of the v. 3.xx Help file is now outmoded, although there are many
useful things in it that still work. For instance, the list of macros.

It may not be easy to find your way around the Customise dialogues. Be
sure to ask again here, if you don't figure out what to do.

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keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[Robin Anson]

Batlovers,

Okay, I finally took the plunge and upgraded from 3.0.1. Now where has
the keyboard shortcut configuration gone??

I remember some discussion about it being different in V3.5, but I can't
find it anywhere.
 
Robin

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Re: keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, July 29, 2005, Robin Anson wrote:

 Okay, I finally took the plunge and upgraded from 3.0.1. Now where has
 the keyboard shortcut configuration gone??

 I remember some discussion about it being different in V3.5, but I can't
 find it anywhere.

select View | Toolbars | Customise or click with right mouse button
on icon or menu toolbar ans select Customise. This dialog includes
Shortcuts too.

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Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
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Re: keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[MAU]

Hello Robin,

 Okay, I finally took the plunge and upgraded from 3.0.1. Now where has
 the keyboard shortcut configuration gone??

View/Toolbars/Customise (or right clicking on any toolbar or menu). It
may seem a little awkward at first and you may not actually be able to
assign al shortcuts you had before. 'Customise' is not yet complete.

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Re: keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[Robin Anson]

Thanks MAU ( Marek)

On Fri 29 July 2005, 22:20:25 +1000, you wrote:
 View/Toolbars/Customise (or right clicking on any toolbar or menu). It
 may seem a little awkward at first and you may not actually be able to
 assign al shortcuts you had before. 'Customise' is not yet complete.

Hmm, the keyboard shortcut I wanted was one that set the folder view
mode. On v3.0.1 it came as part of the default setting. In v3.51 I can't
see it at all. Is it one of the ones that can't (yet) be assigned?

-- 
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Re[2]: keyboard shortcuts in 3.51

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Robin,

  A reminder of what Robin Anson typed on:
  Friday, July 29, 2005 at 22:40:31 GMT +1000

RA Thanks MAU ( Marek)

RA On Fri 29 July 2005, 22:20:25 +1000, you wrote:
 View/Toolbars/Customise (or right clicking on any toolbar or menu). It
 may seem a little awkward at first and you may not actually be able to
 assign al shortcuts you had before. 'Customise' is not yet complete.

RA Hmm, the keyboard shortcut I wanted was one that set the folder view
RA mode. On v3.0.1 it came as part of the default setting. In v3.51 I can't
RA see it at all. Is it one of the ones that can't (yet) be assigned?

Under Available Items on the left side, find Message Controller and
then scroll down to mFolderViewMode. Try adding it to a new menu and
then setting a shortcut to it. You should be able to then hide the new
menu and have the shortcut still work.

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Re: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Martin Schuster]

Hello Darrin,

   Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
   TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
   even a word?) h

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq.html

See Is there a compiled list of keyboard shortcuts?

It may be old, but you can try the ones you find interesting, and see
if they still work. Its a starting point at least.

-- 
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Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Darrin]

Hello TBUDL,

  Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
  TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
  even a word?) h

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Re: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 9:20:02 AM, Darrin wrote:

 Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
 TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
 even a word?) h

Anything you found would not be accurate at present. Most, or at least
many of the keyboard shortcuts have disappeared, even the ones
indicated in the pull down menus.


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Re: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Paul Jansen]

Dear Paul,

 Hello TBUDL,

   Is there a website that has a list of all the keyboard shortcuts for
   TB? Save me some time asking a gazzilion questions (Is gazzilion
   even a word?) h



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Re[2]: Site with all TB! keyboard shortcuts?

[Darrin]

Hello Dwight,

Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 7:28:45 AM, you wrote:

 Anything you found would not be accurate at present. Most, or at least
 many of the keyboard shortcuts have disappeared, even the ones
 indicated in the pull down menus.

too bad. If someone could come up with a list I could put them up on
the net when I had some time.

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Re: shortcuts

[Nick Dutton]

Hello,

  Version 3.5.25: where can i change/add shortcuts?

MB From the main TB! window, drop-down menu, choose
MB View/Toolbars/Customise.

Hmmm, I used to have a pair of keyboard shortcuts to toggle my
connection centre on and off. Can anyone help me get this back with
3.5?  I can't see anything in the above that will do it.

TIA,


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shortcuts

[Luc]

 Good afternoon list,  

 Version 3.5.25: where can i change/add shortcuts?
 
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Re: shortcuts

[Mary Bull]

Hello Luc!

On Sunday, June 05, 2005, 7:50 AM, you wrote:

  Version 3.5.25: where can i change/add shortcuts?

From the main TB! window, drop-down menu, choose
View/Toolbars/Customise.

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Re: shortcuts

[Luc]

Good afternoon Mary,
  
It was foretold that on 5-6-2005 @ 07:54:51 GMT-0500 (which was
14:54:51 where I live) Mary Bull would write:
  
snipped a bit

MB View/Toolbars/Customise.
  
Thank you :-)
 
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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Martin,

On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:17:00 +0200GMT Martin Schuster wrote:

 It's more or less a toggle. CTRL-* expands the threads, and CTRL-*
 collapses them.

MS That might be true ;-) but neither function works here, because as
MS soon as I press CTRL-SHIFT-+ (which on my german keyboard means
MS CTRL-*, as * is SHIFT-+ ) the thread gets expanded from the
MS current point on, and is not toggled from the beginning.

you should use the * from the numeric keypad, then it will work

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Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Martin Schuster]

Hello tbudl,

I know everybody's off testing the bugs in the new version, but I'm
currently searching myself to death for a simple keyboard shortcut:

Collapse Thread (i.e. completely collapse the current thread)

An old shortcut list I have says it's ctrl-* but that does not work
on my german keyboard (most probably because the * is shift+PLUS,
which is the shortcut for open thread...

And I can't find the item Collapse Thread in the customiser. Anybody
knows where it hides?


!!! Idea !!!
How would it be to have a quick search field in customiser so
I can search for Shortcuts or functions/items by namecl? I never know if I need
to search a certain function under MsgCtl or meEdit because I
don't know what MsgCtl is...


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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Martin,

Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 7:51:04 AM, you wrote:
M And I can't find the item Collapse Thread in the customiser.
M Anybody knows where it hides?

It's more or less a toggle. CTRL-* expands the threads, and CTRL-*
collapses them.

M How would it be to have a quick search field in customiser so I can
M search for Shortcuts or functions/items by namecl? I never know if
M I need to search a certain function under MsgCtl or meEdit
M because I don't know what MsgCtl is...

Yeah, it'd be nice to be able to do that. It took me a while the first
time around setting up CTRL-J as a junkmail hotkey because I didn't
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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Martin Schuster]

Hello Leif,

M And I can't find the item Collapse Thread in the customiser.
M Anybody knows where it hides?

 It's more or less a toggle. CTRL-* expands the threads, and CTRL-*
 collapses them.

That might be true ;-) but neither function works here, because as
soon as I press CTRL-SHIFT-+ (which on my german keyboard means
CTRL-*, as * is SHIFT-+ ) the thread gets expanded from the
current point on, and is not toggled from the beginning.

:cry:

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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Martin,

Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 8:17:00 AM, you wrote:
M That might be true ;-) but neither function works here, because as
M soon as I press CTRL-SHIFT-+ (which on my german keyboard means
M CTRL-*, as * is SHIFT-+ ) the thread gets expanded from the current
M point on, and is not toggled from the beginning.

H... On my laptop I have to use CTRL-Fn-0 (0 is where the asterisk
is) to get expansion and collapse. Not familiar with the German
keyboards though.


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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Martin Schuster]

Hello Leif,

 Hello Martin,

 Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 8:17:00 AM, you wrote:
M That might be true ;-) but neither function works here, because as
M soon as I press CTRL-SHIFT-+ (which on my german keyboard means
M CTRL-*, as * is SHIFT-+ ) the thread gets expanded from the current
M point on, and is not toggled from the beginning.

 H... On my laptop I have to use CTRL-Fn-0 (0 is where the asterisk
 is) to get expansion and collapse. Not familiar with the German
 keyboards though.

Funnily enough this works here, too, although I have to use P
(x-sign on numeric key) that produces a *

But: is it the same at your computer that CTRL-* collapses/expands
*all* threads, not just the one that is currently active?

(BTW: thanks a lot for bothering with my unimportant problem)

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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Martin Schuster]

Hello Martin,

Myself blubbered just a few seconds ago into Leif's direction:

 But: is it the same at your computer that CTRL-* collapses/expands
 *all* threads, not just the one that is currently active?

Sorry, I can't read. Shortcut list says clearly:

Ctrl+* = open all the branches of all threads in a folder

Now if that ain't clear enough...my fault.


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Re: Searching keyboard shortcuts and functions (e.g. Collapse current thread)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Martin,

Wednesday, May 25, 2005, 10:03:03 AM, you wrote:
M But: is it the same at your computer that CTRL-* collapses/expands
M *all* threads, not just the one that is currently active?

It does. Sometimes I do CTRL-* to expand, CTRL-A to select all
messages, then CTRL-M to mark them all as read.

M (BTW: thanks a lot for bothering with my unimportant problem)

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Re: Shortcuts

[Gerard]

ON Monday, May 16, 2005, 11:08:21 PM, you wrote:

MB A new system is in place. The editor is in View/Toolbars/Customise.
MB You may need a little help dealing with it. What to do has been posted
MB here a time or two, I think, as well as on tbbeta.

MB In case of difficulty, post further questions. ;)

Hi Mary,

Thanks I found it and after some thinking even figured out how to get my
most wanted shortcut back.
I think it is clear that we can strike The natural e-mail program from
the advertising campaign though :(

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Re: 3.5 and Shortcuts

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ian,

On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:56 +1000GMT (17-5-2005, 5:04 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

IAW I used to have a shortcut Ctrl+Alt+K to mark messages that are parked
IAW with a colour group.

Currently the new customizing model doesn't allow for color groups,
view modes and quick templates to be triggered with a shortcut.

However, you're lucky, as it is possible to assign color groups with a
filter action and you still can assign shortcuts to a filter (at the
options tab of that filter).
So I suggest you follow that path.

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Re: 3.5 and Shortcuts

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ian,

On Tue, 17 May 2005 17:58:26 +1000GMT (17-5-2005, 9:58 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

IAW Interestingly I set the condition to check if the message attribute is
IAW Parked, but it seems to make no difference. Not to worry, it does what
IAW I need!

There is an additional checkbox on the options tab, whether you want
the message checked or not.

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Re[2]: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[Steve Lee]

 Did you se my message to you yesterday on which I explained how to set
 up Space and Return as shortcuts to mark as read and move to next
 unread?

No I missed it first time round.  Thank you for digging it out again
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Re: Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Allie,

AM Unfortunately, this shortcut works when the editor is in focus. I
AM assigned the shortcut as N, and now in the editor, I can't type 'n'
AM when editing.

This is normal behaviour - it's very much like the previous versions.
The menu of the main window is considered as global and it handles
all keystrokes that were not handled by menus of the currently active
window. Therefore, single-character shortcuts should not be used in
the main window menus, such shortcuts should be defined in pop-up
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Re: Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.

[Allie Martin]

On Monday, May 16, 2005 at 2:14:50 AM [GMT -0500], Stefan Tanurkov
wrote:

 This is normal behaviour - it's very much like the previous versions.
 The menu of the main window is considered as global and it handles
 all keystrokes that were not handled by menus of the currently active
 window. Therefore, single-character shortcuts should not be used in
 the main window menus, such shortcuts should be defined in pop-up
 menus of window panes.

Ok. Thanks. I'll have to work with it then. :)

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View Mode Shortcuts

[Nick Danger]

Can anyone point me the way to create a shortcut for a custom view
mode? I've searched the customiser but have yet to stumble upon that
particular ability.

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Re: Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.

[MAU]

Hello Allie,

snipped
 In Mulberry, it's all a snap.
 
 1,2,3 moves me between panes.
 
 tab takes me to unread messages whether the message list or preview pane
 is in focus.
 
 I don't have to reach for the mouse during browsing.

Maybe that's one thing that TB is missing, specially for those of you
keyboard/shortcut users.

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Re: View Mode Shortcuts

[MAU]

Hello Nick,

 Can anyone point me the way to create a shortcut for a custom view
 mode? I've searched the customiser but have yet to stumble upon that
 particular ability.

I think this is not possible _yet_.

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Shortcuts

[Gerard]

Hi Bat Users,

Does anybody know what happened to the short cuts and the editor therefor?
Has it not survived the rewrite?

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Re: Shortcuts

[MAU]

Hello Gerard,

 Does anybody know what happened to the short cuts and the editor therefor?
 Has it not survived the rewrite?

One of the major improvements of 3.5 is Fully customisable user
interface and you will have to redefine your shortcuts via the
View/Toolbars/Customise utility.

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Re: Shortcuts

[Mary Bull]

Hello Gerard!

On Monday, May 16, 2005, 3:44 PM, you wrote:

 Does anybody know what happened to the short cuts and the editor therefor?
 Has it not survived the rewrite?

A new system is in place. The editor is in View/Toolbars/Customise.
You may need a little help dealing with it. What to do has been posted
here a time or two, I think, as well as on tbbeta.

In case of difficulty, post further questions. ;)

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3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[Bill McCarthy]

Hello TB User Discussion List,

Some of my shortcuts are missing since installing 3.5.
The help file states that shortcuts are accessible with
View | Edit Shortcuts.

I cannot find this.  Where is it hidden?

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Re: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[Natasha V Pearce]

Hi Bill

BM Some of my shortcuts are missing since installing 3.5. The help file states
BM that shortcuts are accessible with View | Edit Shortcuts.

BM I cannot find this.  Where is it hidden?

You can do this via View | Toolbars | Customise. HTH.

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Re: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[Bill McCarthy]

On Sun 15-May-05 2:16am -0500, Natasha V Pearce wrote:

BM Some of my shortcuts are missing since
BM installing 3.5. The help file states
BM that shortcuts are accessible with View | Edit Shortcuts.

BM I cannot find this.  Where is it hidden?

 You can do this via View | Toolbars | Customise. HTH.

Thanks Natasha, since I didn't want to customize any
toolbars, I didn't look there :)

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Re[2]: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[Steve Lee]

 You can do this via View | Toolbars | Customise. HTH.


No reference to shortcuts I can see in there.

Two things the developers need to look at now:

1. Move all the editing functions to and editing dialog - makes far
more sense than View.

2. Change the documentation to match the change please (I know it is
difficult keeping the documentation up to date on a forwever changing
landscape but...)

Meanwhile how do we edit shortcuts!!

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Re: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[MAU]

Hello Steve,

 Meanwhile how do we edit shortcuts!!

Did you se my message to you yesterday on which I explained how to set
up Space and Return as shortcuts to mark as read and move to next
unread?

Double click on this link mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Steve Lee  everyone else,

on 15-Mai-2005 at 12:13 you (Steve Lee) wrote:

 2. Change the documentation to match the change please (I know it is
 difficult keeping the documentation up to date on a forwever changing
 landscape but...)

An updated documentation is already in the works, it just wasn't finished
in time for the 3.5 final.

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Re: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[M. K. ZBOROWSKI]

Hello Natasha,

15 May 2005 (09:16:39) you wrote:

NVP You can do this via View | Toolbars | Customise. HTH.

Frankly can't find it too.


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Re: 3.5: View | Edit Shortcuts ?

[Mary Bull]

Hello Steve!

On Sunday, May 15, 2005, 5:13 AM, you wrote:

 2. Change the documentation to match the change please (I know it is
 difficult keeping the documentation up to date on a forwever changing
 landscape but...)

RitLabs has contracted with a professional writing firm to write a
completely revised Help File. One of these writers posted recently to
TBBETA that it's almost finished--is at the proofreading stage.

Meanwhile, there are some things still useful about the old Help File,
so it's good to have it, but it should not be taken as gospel. With
v. 3.5, sections are obsolete, and additionally many places in the
Help Topics Index give a good description of a feature but not a clue
on how to access or implement it. :unreal2:

(BTW, the above Smiley is from the PCWize collection. :) )

TBUDL, TBTECH, and TBBETA are TB!'s documentation. ;) Keep on
patiently asking your questions here--my best advice.

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Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.

[Allie Martin]

Hi all,

I've been fiddling with customisation which has been going fine without
stability issues.

However, one problem that has found its way into the release.

I added 'move to next unread' to the 'Message' menu of the main window.
I then assigned it a shortcut.

Unfortunately, this shortcut works when the editor is in focus. I
assigned the shortcut as N, and now in the editor, I can't type 'n'
when editing.

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Re: Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.

[MAU]

Hello Allie,

 I added 'move to next unread' to the 'Message' menu of the main window.
 I then assigned it a shortcut.
 
 Unfortunately, this shortcut works when the editor is in focus. I
 assigned the shortcut as N, and now in the editor, I can't type 'n'
 when editing.

Why did you add it to the Message menu? Wouldn't it be better to just
add the shortcut N to 'move to next unread' in message list context
menu? That is what I have done with 'Enter', which is my preferred
shortcut to move to next unread.

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Re: Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.

[Allie Martin]

On Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 6:06:59 PM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote:

 Why did you add it to the Message menu? Wouldn't it be better to just
 add the shortcut N to 'move to next unread' in message list context
 menu? That is what I have done with 'Enter', which is my preferred
 shortcut to move to next unread.

It will work only when the message list is in focus. I prefer if it
works from any of the panes as CTRL-] does.

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Re: Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.

[MAU]

Hello Allie,

 It will work only when the message list is in focus. I prefer if it
 works from any of the panes as CTRL-] does.

It is clear that each user has his preferences, so nothing to argue :)

BTW, CTRL-] doesn't work here from any pane. But it is because it is an
impossible key combination on a Spanish keyboard ;-)

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Re: Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.

[Allie Martin]

On Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 8:16:35 PM [GMT -0500], Miguel Urech wrote:

 It will work only when the message list is in focus. I prefer if it
 works from any of the panes as CTRL-] does.

 It is clear that each user has his preferences, so nothing to argue  

Yes. :)

This is my habit and what I'd consider smooth operations.

I'm going through messages in the message list. I go to next unread with
N and scroll with spacebar.

I wish to reply to a message quoting selected text. I move to the mouse
though I'd love a single key toggle to bring the preview pane into focus
so that I could select the text with the keyboard.

I select the text and then hit R for the reply to appear.

I type my message then hit CTRL-M to send immediately.

I'm now back to the main Window.

I'd now love to be able to continue reading with N, but I left the main
window with the preview pane in focus. I now have to get the message
list back into focus. I have to reach for the mouse just to do that
since tabbing doesn't work too well and often takes longer than just
using the mouse.

In Mulberry, it's all a snap.

1,2,3 moves me between panes.

tab takes me to unread messages whether the message list or preview pane
is in focus.

I don't have to reach for the mouse during browsing.

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