Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
On 12/13/2013 you wrote: > If you are on XP it will have to drag to the quick launch > section on the far left next to the start button. This works for 7 and 8 Sorry, but it doesn't do that here. Win7, SP 1. I just ran the Win updates, FWTW. Ignore the sig. I have no idea where TB! is finding it, but it's not the sig the template points to. Thanks, though! Cheers! -- Lynn theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
>I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again! If you are on XP it will have to drag to the quick launch section on the far left next to the start button. This works for 7 and 8 -- Rick Cannot open file "C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt" v6.0.12 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, December 13, 2013, 5:45:47 PM, you wrote: T> On 12/12/2013 you wrote: >> Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into >> the task bar before you'll see that "pin to task bar" >> message. If the task bar is accessible with the window from >> whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight >> down into the task bar from that window. I didn't know if >> you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not. You >> don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first >> as I suggested earlier. And, just to make sure, even if the >> task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into >> it. I just checked. T> I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again! Note that The Bat now uses its old icon for the task bar and its new one for the desktop - 2 different icons for the same program. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Me, indecisive? I'm not so sure about that. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
On 12/12/2013 you wrote: > Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into > the task bar before you'll see that "pin to task bar" > message. If the task bar is accessible with the window from > whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight > down into the task bar from that window. I didn't know if > you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not. You > don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first > as I suggested earlier. And, just to make sure, even if the > task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into > it. I just checked. I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again! -- Lynn theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello Lynn, On Friday, December 13, 2013 you wrote: T> On 12/12/2013 you wrote: >> Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff. T> Jack, I just did all that. T> Filemgr - TB!folder - thebat!.exe - right click. Make shortcut. T> Copy shortcut (drag) to desktop - right click Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into the task bar before you'll see that "pin to task bar" message. If the task bar is accessible with the window from whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight down into the task bar from that window. I didn't know if you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not. You don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first as I suggested earlier. And, just to make sure, even if the task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into it. I just checked. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
On 12/12/2013 you wrote: > Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff. Lets > try getting a TB! shortcut on your task bar. First, close > all open windows on your desktop. Second, if you're running > Win 7, go to START+COMPUTER. When the window opens up > double-click LOCAL COMPUTER, then double-click PROGRAM FILES > (x86), locate and open (double-click) the folder THE BAT!, > right-click on TheBat.exe. From the menu which appears > choose CREATE SHORTCUT. A TB! shortcut > (TheBat.exe-shortcut) will appear below TheBat.exe. > Left-click and drag that shortcut to your desktop and drop > it there. Close all open windows, left-click and drag the > shortcut down into the task bar and release. A dialog box > should appear saying "pin to task bar" which it now should > be. Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as > it's no longer necessary. That's how I got my TB! shortcut > onto my task bar. The same can be done for any program on > your computer. Jack, I just did all that. Filemgr - TB!folder - thebat!.exe - right click. Make shortcut. Copy shortcut (drag) to desktop - right click No links to 'pin to ..' anything at all, not on the task bar, not on the menu, not from the icon on the desktop, nor from the icon on the taskbar after TB! is loaded. In fact, before sending this, I just went to the file manager and checked to make sure those links wouldn't appear on the .exe icon, on right clicking it. I'll check again after closing TB!, but I don't expect anything different. Some of this stuff may be WinDoze being 'helpful', but I'm not discovering anything there, either. The weird thing is that now TB! and some other packages are loading at much lower resolution than they were, or probably should be. I'll pick the brain of the guy who loaded the system here this time. I never used to let anyone load my systems, and maybe I need to go back to that, but he really is very much more knowledgeable than I, and he offered ... and it was a gift, and one shouldn't look gift horses in the mouth, should one? Or have they changed that rule since I was in school ..? lol! I do appreciate the help, though. It really is beginning to seem like anything I touch goes badly south these days. Cheers! -- Lynn theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
On 12/12/2013 you wrote: > Close all open windows, left-click and drag the > shortcut down into the task bar and release. A dialog box > should appear saying "pin to task bar" which it now should > be. Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as > it's no longer necessary. That's how I got my TB! shortcut > onto my task bar. The same can be done for any program on > your computer. The only one requiring it seems to be TB!. I'll try later when I reboot. > As far as the sudden slooowness, I can't help there. > Your sig, maybe. My sig looks like this: Actually, mine is very much simpler, but this is NOT the sig which is indexed to this folder. Yes, I use the macros, yes, it worked, not for months or a couple of versions, for YEARS. I haven't had a chance to dig around and find out where it's getting this file, or why it isn't honoring the links in the templates. It takes so long to plow through the mail and file it manually that I haven't got there yet. Nor to the filters. But it would be a help not to have to load it manually every time, so thanks again! At this rate, I'm going to owe you my first born son! lol! Don't hold your breath ... I'm past the relevant age :-) Cheers! -- Lynn theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello Lynn,
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 you wrote:
T> On 12/8/2013 you wrote:
>> Huh? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
>> create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
>> problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.
T> I can't either. At all. I've tried every way I could think of.
T> The links don't come up, period. Every time it has to be started
T> with a 'search for software' .
Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff. Lets
try getting a TB! shortcut on your task bar. First, close
all open windows on your desktop. Second, if you're running
Win 7, go to START+COMPUTER. When the window opens up
double-click LOCAL COMPUTER, then double-click PROGRAM FILES
(x86), locate and open (double-click) the folder THE BAT!,
right-click on TheBat.exe. From the menu which appears
choose CREATE SHORTCUT. A TB! shortcut
(TheBat.exe-shortcut) will appear below TheBat.exe.
Left-click and drag that shortcut to your desktop and drop
it there. Close all open windows, left-click and drag the
shortcut down into the task bar and release. A dialog box
should appear saying "pin to task bar" which it now should
be. Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as
it's no longer necessary. That's how I got my TB! shortcut
onto my task bar. The same can be done for any program on
your computer.
As far as the sudden slooowness, I can't help there.
Your sig, maybe. My sig looks like this:
--
TIA,
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama
Using The Bat! ver: %THEBATVERSION.
Running %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME Pro ver %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION build
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
%SetEditor="1"%
%SetHeader("X-Rogue",":Deuxdad:")%-
%ACCOUNT="Jack LaRosa"
The macros (all preceded with a percent sign) will supply
the correct information when you select the template you're
going to use. As to where TB! gets the template to use, as
there are several places to create templates, that's a
secret known only to select grand masters of TB! I joke of
course but I always have a helluva time figuring out which
template I need to modify to accomplish any changes.
It may be that your sig(s) have text instead of macros in
them which is why they haven't changed. For one thing as
you are probably already aware, the "cut mark" has to be
DASH+DASH+SPACE+RETURN to work correctly.
There are templates in the AB of course but also in ACCOUNT
PROPERTIES and FOLDER PROPERTIES. I think that's all.
Which template gets used under which circumstances has
always been a mystery to me and I've successfully
accomplished changes only through trial and error (mostly
error).
Hope some of this helps.
--
Best Regards,
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama
Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1
Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
On 12/8/2013 you wrote: > Huh? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can > create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no > problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar. I can't either. At all. I've tried every way I could think of. The links don't come up, period. Every time it has to be started with a 'search for software' . It's annoying, but less so than the filters, the sig files, the sudden sloowness ... those are dealbreakers. Still fighting for it, but running out of steam. This sig, for instance, must exist on my system somewhere, but it is NOT current. I'm running Win7 at SP 1, or thought I was, and TB! is now at 5.8.10 for a certainty .. unless the install failed catastrophically with no messages, but put the old version up. Where'd it get it from??? Sig files are hard linked in the folder/address templates! Hanging in ... -- Lynn theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo *** Win7U *** OVB Kubuntu Linux 13.04 *** I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Windows 6, Build 7601 5.8.8 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello Greg, I replied via TBUDL but as nothing has appeared on that list I'm now resending my reply direct: GS> 3) Has anybody upgraded to the 64 bit version of TB without problems? In my computer it is unuseable. It will not send or receive messages. There is still a lot to be done. The 32 bit version is useable but at this stage gives little or no advantage over version 5.8.10. I give next a copy of what Maxim said when alpha testing started: What's new in this ALPHA (English): 1. Support of IDN (Internationalized Domain Names) in email addresses. 2. The Bat! version 6, unlike previous versions, is a fully-Unicode application. This gives advantages to the users that work with multiple languages simultaneously. While previous versions worked mostly well with multiple languages in file names, subject lines, etc., there were places that a language different that Windows-default language “for non-Unicode programs” might not work well in The Bat!. 3. There will be 64-bit version of thebat.exe also available alongside 32-bit version. 4. There is a new sorting office option – extract files by masks. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.8.10 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello Paul, On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote: PB> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote: GS>> Hello TBUDL, GS>> I have a few questions. GS>> 1) Has there been many problems with the new v6? PB> Only one little annoyance. PB> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. Huh? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello Paul, On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote: PB> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote: GS>> Hello TBUDL, GS>> I have a few questions. GS>> 1) Has there been many problems with the new v6? PB> Only one little annoyance. PB> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. Huh? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:30:09 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Paul, JSL> On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote: PB>> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB>> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote: GS>>> Hello TBUDL, GS>>> I have a few questions. GS>>> 1) Has there been many problems with the new v6? PB>> Only one little annoyance. PB>> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. JSL> Huh? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can JSL> create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no JSL> problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar. Thanks - just tried again and it now works. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Afraid of heights? Not me, I'm afraid of widths! Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:58:11 AM, you wrote: PVN> 12/8/2013 7:51 PM PVN> Hi Paul, PVN> On 12/8/2013 Paul Berger wrote: PB>> Only one little annoyance. PB>> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. PVN> On the System Tray at the right end of the TaskBar PVN> Click on "Customize" Thanks now OK. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Experience is the name I give to my mistakes Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello Greg, Sunday, December 8, 2013, 7:51:48 PM, among other things, you wrote: GS> 3) Has anybody upgraded to the 64 bit version of TB without problems? In my computer it is unuseable. It will not send or receive messages. There is still a lot to be done. The 32 bit version is useable but at this stage gives little or no advantage over version 5.8.10. I give next a copy of what Maxim said when alpha testing started: What's new in this ALPHA (English): 1. Support of IDN (Internationalized Domain Names) in email addresses. 2. The Bat! version 6, unlike previous versions, is a fully-Unicode application. This gives advantages to the users that work with multiple languages simultaneously. While previous versions worked mostly well with multiple languages in file names, subject lines, etc., there were places that a language different that Windows-default language “for non-Unicode programs” might not work well in The Bat!. 3. There will be 64-bit version of thebat.exe also available alongside 32-bit version. 4. There is a new sorting office option – extract files by masks. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.8.10 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
12/8/2013 7:51 PM Hi Paul, On 12/8/2013 Paul Berger wrote: PB> Only one little annoyance. PB> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. On the System Tray at the right end of the TaskBar Click on "Customize" - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello Paul, On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote: PB> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote: GS>> Hello TBUDL, GS>> I have a few questions. GS>> 1) Has there been many problems with the new v6? PB> Only one little annoyance. PB> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. Huh? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote: GS> Hello TBUDL, GS> I have a few questions. GS> 1) Has there been many problems with the new v6? GS> 2) Is there a separate download for the 64bit version of TB? I saw GS> Maxim's email on 64bit version on TBBeta, hence question. GS> 3) Has anybody upgraded to the 64 bit version of TB without problems? GS> Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the list. Too busy! GS> I have upgraded the old WinXP to Windows 8 64 bit version earlier this GS> year. Just upgraded to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8.0 with BAD GS> experience. I thought it unusual for the upgrade of Windows taking GS> well over the 1-2 hours per instructions. After the upgrade I found it GS> unusual that a Citrix window was open when I only use Citrix to log GS> into work remotely. I have huge concerns with security for work. After GS> the upgrade I also didn't like the fact that I had to log onto MY PC GS> using a Microsoft account rather than my password. GS> Thank goodness for old disk imaging software for backup because I've GS> now downgraded back to Windows 8.0. Given the bad experience with GS> Windows I thought it appropriate to ask the question above before GS> upgrading TB. GS> Still using TB email client on my main PC after all these years. :) GS> Take Care! Only one little annoyance. In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Our business is run on trust. We trust you will pay in advance. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
>2) Is there a separate download for the 64bit version of TB? I saw Maxim's >email on 64bit version on TBBeta, hence question. Install the MSI files then copy the 64 bit exe to the program folder. 6.0.12 has a lot of problems but I have not found any real show stoppers other than the AVs -- Rick Cannot open file "C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt" v6.0.12 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
