Hello Roelof,
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, at 14:38:40 [GMT +0200] (which was 13:38 in my
TimeZone) you wrote:
MT --
RO BTW Your signature delimiter is broken. It should be
RO dashdashspaceenter
fixed??
--
Best regards,
Michael
http://.thompsonmike.co.uk/
PGP KeyID := 0x402A090F
When
Hello Rafi,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:38:54 -0500 GMT (27/07/03, 12:38 +0700 GMT),
Rafi Avital wrote:
My objective: Color the title (in the message-list pane) of any encrypted
message.
I can enter something like --BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-- as the string to look for, but
the only place in TB! where
Hello Michael,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:39:16 +0100 GMT (27/07/03, 13:39 +0700 GMT),
Michael Thompson wrote:
RO BTW Your signature delimiter is broken. It should be
RO dashdashspaceenter
fixed??
Works fine over here.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.
The
27-Jul-2003 08:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The first filter in your Incoming list could be a new filter, which
uses Inbox as both source and target folders (so the messages is not
being moved).
This works for new messages, but could it be done for existing messages
that are in different
Hello Alexander,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:58:15 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 13:58 +0700 GMT),
Alexander wrote:
The first filter in your Incoming list could be a new filter, which
uses Inbox as both source and target folders (so the messages is not
being moved).
This works for new messages, but could
Hello Thomas,
on Sunday, July 27, 2003, 3:22:24 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
I discovered that my mail provider GMX provides IMAP4 access too. I
have configured a new account with setting imap.gmx.de for incoming
mail. But ... where's the difference to pop3? The Bat still downloads
all my
Hello ravi,
on Sunday, July 27, 2003, 2:51:26 AM, ravi wrote:
Nope, not yet.
Look out for version 2 though. It's supposed to have proper
IMAP support.
Correct. The developers already confirmed that and announced that in
the next days the new Beta-Version with the full IMAP functionality
Hi Martin,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, at 11:10:12 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:10 where I
live) you wrote:
Correct. The developers already confirmed that and announced that in
the next days the new Beta-Version with the full IMAP functionality
should come out. When the Beta-Test is finished then a new
Hello,
sorry if this has been asked before:
I discovered that my mail provider GMX provides IMAP4 access too. I
have configured a new account with setting imap.gmx.de for incoming
mail. But ... where's the difference to pop3? The Bat still downloads
all my mail, and with the mail dispatcher I
Hello John,
on Sunday, July 27, 2003, 11:41:43 AM, John Phillips wrote:
Correct. The developers already confirmed that and announced that in
the next days the new Beta-Version with the full IMAP functionality
should come out. When the Beta-Test is finished then a new release
(2.0) comes out.
Hello Martin,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:09:09 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 16:09 +0700 GMT),
Martin Schneider wrote:
When they started their IMAP server, they advised that it works with
OL/OE and Netscape Mail (IIRC). They said support for other clients
will follow shortly. I don't have that GMX Info
Hello, The Bat User Mailing List,
on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 at 17:56:43 GMT +0700 (which was 27.07.2003,
12:56 where I live) you wrote the following lines regarding IMAP?:
TF Hello Martin,
TF On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:09:09 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 16:09 +0700 GMT),
TF Martin Schneider wrote:
And as far
Good afternoon Thomas,
It was foretold that on 27-7-2003 @ 11:15:53 GMT+0700 (which was
6:15:53 where I live) Thomas Fernandez would mumble:
snipped a bit
TF Hello Luc,
TF On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:03:16 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 10:03 +0700 GMT),
TF Luc wrote:
TF Is it in the same account as
Hello Andreas,
on Sunday, July 27, 2003, 1:13:53 PM, Andreas Schwartmann wrote:
Yep, and I cannot use it with the Bat.
Hmmm, that is strange.
Sorry for double posting, but my GMX spam filter must have
rejected my list mail since friday.
I forwarded you all the mails to your name-account.
Hello Thomas,
On Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 2:33:01 AM you [TF] wrote (at least in
part):
GS Anyway my point is not to single your comment out, but to raise an issue
GS with regard to the help file. If certain language versions of the help
GS file are better than others, than are some of the
Hello, Martin,
on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 at 13:55:38 GMT +0200 (which was 27.07.2003,
13:55 where I live) you wrote the following lines regarding IMAP?:
MS Hello Andreas,
MS on Sunday, July 27, 2003, 1:13:53 PM, Andreas Schwartmann wrote:
Yep, and I cannot use it with the Bat.
MS Hmmm, that is
Hello:
I was just wondering, what causes dupes? Coming from Eudora, I
never had to deal with them before. And when TB encounters the same
message twice but in different folders, for example, how does it know
which one to remove?
TIA,
-dZ.
Hello all,
Sunday, July 27, 2003, DZ-Jay wrote:
I was just wondering, what causes dupes? Coming from Eudora, I
never had to deal with them before. And when TB encounters the same
message twice but in different folders, for example, how does it know
which one to remove?
duplicates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hi John,
JP Will version 2.0 have news group reading capabilities as well?
Not in version 2.0. However, because of similar nature of mechanisms
used for IMAP support, adding news reading capability should not take
much effort. It all depends on the priorities
Hello all,
Sunday, July 27, 2003, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
JP Will version 2.0 have news group reading capabilities as well?
Not in version 2.0. However, because of similar nature of mechanisms
used for IMAP support, adding news reading capability should not take
much effort. It all depends on
On Sunday, July 27, 2003, 1:58:15 AM, you wrote:
A 27-Jul-2003 08:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The first filter in your Incoming list could be a new filter, which
uses Inbox as both source and target folders (so the messages is not
being moved).
A This works for new messages, but could it
On Sunday, July 27, 2003, 1:39:50 AM, you wrote:
TF Filtering does not necessarily mean moving. So, the Sorting Office
TF and New Filter are the right places to go. You were almost there.
Hi Thomas,
Thanks, I eventually figured that Moving from inbox to inbox, redundant as
it may seem, works
Some time around 7/27/2003 10:02:40, I think I heard Marek Mikus say:
duplicates are removed in folders only, no between folders, so if is
the same message included in to folders, no of them will be removed.
Oh, that's good to know. But still, can you tell me *how* they
happen?
TIA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi Marek,
@27-Jul-2003, 16:27 +0200 (15:27 UK time) Marek Mikus [MM] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
MM what about public voting about new priorities? :-)
MM BTW Stef, what You think about cuting text after - --
MM PGP-changed signature
Oh, that's good to know. But still, can you tell me *how* they happen?
Look up the headers - messages with equal Message-IDs are duplicates.
/ St
Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information:
Some time around 7/27/2003 11:05:37, I think I heard St - Musaic.Net say:
Oh, that's good to know. But still, can you tell me *how* they happen?
Look up the headers - messages with equal Message-IDs are duplicates.
Aww come on. I know what a duplicate is. What I want to know is
*how* the
Hello DZ-Jay,
Sunday, July 27, 2003, 11:13:53 AM, you wrote:
Oh, that's good to know. But still, can you tell me *how* they happen?
A very uneducated guess, but I've seen dups come into existance when,
for whatever reason, TB can't finish receiving mail from the mail
server. In this case, it
Hello Thomas,
Sunday, July 27, 2003, 6:56:43 AM, you wrote:
TF I just saw that he can use IMAP on GMX with OE (as advertised by GMX),
TF but does it also work with other clients? Why did they mention a few
TF clients and said IMAP functionality for others will be implemented
TF soon?
Imap must
27-Jul-2003 17:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I used Eudora for many years and have never had to deal with dupes. I'm
also using Opera's M2 and have used other mail clients, so please forgive
me, but I don't understand what causes dupes to exist in TB and not in
other mail programs.
Do you
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Dear Marek,
MM what about public voting about new priorities? :-)
It is a long-time-ago-planned facility. :-) We will make it possible
to vote for certain features soon, but there are things we cannot
afford to let them to be decided for us, if you know
27-Jul-2003 17:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had asked the developers about this and they claimbed that there are
inconsistancies within the Imap protocol
I believe its rather an inconsistency in the IMAP servers... I think we all
can VERY WELL imagine that - for example - m$ has a certain
Hello Stefan,
Saturday, July 26, 2003, 7:25:50 PM, you wrote:
ST You can set a folder to use account's default column settings. If you
ST change column layout/sorting of any folder with such setting, default
ST column settings will change accordingly...
Problem is that I don't want to change
Some time around 7/27/2003 11:34:25, I think I heard Alexander say:
Do you know why you haven't had any dupes in these programs? Maybe you
should look how these programs handle dupes? And has it come to you that
maybe these programs delete dupes automatically, without you interfering
(or
Some time around 7/27/2003 11:22:42, I think I heard Steve M. Sawczyn say:
Hello DZ-Jay,
Sunday, July 27, 2003, 11:13:53 AM, you wrote:
Oh, that's good to know. But still, can you tell me *how* they happen?
A very uneducated guess, but I've seen dups come into existance when,
for whatever
Hello Krister,
Saturday, July 26, 2003, 8:01:17 AM, you wrote:
KE And i'll have to correct myself. In an earlier message, i said that
KE hitting the spacebar in the address picker didn't work for me either,
KE after investigating this again, i found that for me using Hal 5.20 as
KE my screen
I see. By your brief explanation I can assume that dupes occur when
TB downloads the same message from the server more than once, is this
accurate? If it is, then *thank you*, that's all I wanted to know.
Another way dupes frequently occur with me is when people
send the same message to
Hello Steve,
Problem is that I don't want to change the view of my Inbox folder
i.e. I don't want my inbox threaded like I do my list folders. Can I
have a default account view and somehow exempt the inbox folder from
it?
Yes. In the Account/Folder pane select the Inbox folder. With the
Hello Steve,
on Sunday, July 27, 2003, 5:30:54 PM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote:
Imap must be difficult to implement -- the Depart of Education within
the state of Maine uses an Email server/client called First Class and
Imap functionality there doesn't work well either. I had asked the
Hello Alexander,
on Sunday, July 27, 2003, 5:48:50 PM, Alexander wrote:
it wouldn't surprise me if they already had made a little influence
here and there so that big public mail providers will support O/OE
first...
When they offer IMAP they support every IMAP client. If you use
Mozilla,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Dz-Jay, [DJ] wrote:
DJ If this is the case, then I agree with you that TB should have an
DJ automatic mechanism to handle dupes. Most mail clients keep track of
DJ all UIDL (or Message-IDs) of the messages downloaded and use this to
DJ avoid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Dz-Jay, [DJ] wrote:
DJ Thanks. Then may I suggest as a new feature that TB keep a list of
DJ UIDLs of messages downloaded to avoid this situation, as other
DJ less-advanced mail clients do.
TB! already does this. However, if the POP session is
Hello Steve,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:30:54 -0400 GMT (27/07/03, 22:30 +0700 GMT),
Steve M. Sawczyn wrote:
Imap must be difficult to implement -- the Depart of Education within
the state of Maine uses an Email server/client called First Class and
Imap functionality there doesn't work well
Hello Luc,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:24:55 +0200 GMT (27/07/03, 18:24 +0700 GMT),
Luc wrote:
Done that. No success -:(
I'm out of my wits.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.
Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. -- Popular
Mechanics,
Hello Stefan,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:39:33 -0400 GMT (27/07/03, 22:39 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
Well, I guess we should deal with this. As Marck mentioned, there is
no problem with - -- , and now... there is no problem with the
- -- delimiter anymore :-)
Good! :-)
But one question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Allie Martin, [AM] wrote:
AM If a POP session ends unexpectedly, then TB! will be able to
^^^
that should have be 'TB! will not
Hello Allie,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:32:41 -0500 GMT (27/07/03, 23:32 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:
DJ Thanks. Then may I suggest as a new feature that TB keep a list of
DJ UIDLs of messages downloaded to avoid this situation, as other
DJ less-advanced mail clients do.
TB! already does this.
Hello DZ-Jay,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:57:14 -0400 GMT (27/07/03, 22:57 +0700 GMT),
DZ-Jay wrote:
THe only other way I can think this might re-occur is if the original
sender resent a message?
Does this actually happen and count as a dupe? I mean, my guess would
be that if the original sender
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] DZ-Jay,
DJ I see. By your brief explanation I can assume that dupes occur
DJ when TB downloads the same message from the server more than once,
DJ is this accurate?
That *happened* in versions prior to 1.63 Beta and
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hello DZ-Jay,
DJ Thanks. Then may I suggest as a new feature that TB keep a list of
DJ UIDLs of messages downloaded to avoid this situation, as other
DJ less-advanced mail clients do.
TB! already keeps UIDs of downloaded messages but only when you keep
them
Hello Stefan,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:00:42 -0400 GMT (28/07/03, 00:00 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
TB! already keeps UIDs of downloaded messages but only when you keep
them on the server for a certain period. It was always recommended to
use this way because it is safe and gives more
Some time around 7/27/2003 12:11:08, I think I heard ravi say:
When all the messages are downloaded and filtered - the
dupes are there and can be killed. I prefer to do this
myself rather than have a client decide which dupe to kill.
What if I want to verify that both my accounts receive the
Some time around 7/27/2003 13:00:42, I think I heard Stefan Tanurkov say:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hello DZ-Jay,
DJ Thanks. Then may I suggest as a new feature that TB keep a list of
DJ UIDLs of messages downloaded to avoid this situation, as other
DJ less-advanced mail clients do.
Hello Stefan,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:58:36 -0400 GMT (27/07/03, 23:58 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
That *happened* in versions prior to 1.63 Beta and only when
messages should be deleted from the server right after downloading
them (UIDs were not downloaded in that case). The logic is
Some time around 7/27/2003 12:46:55, I think I heard Thomas Fernandez say:
Hello Allie,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:32:41 -0500 GMT (27/07/03, 23:32 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:
DJ Thanks. Then may I suggest as a new feature that TB keep a list of
DJ UIDLs of messages downloaded to avoid this
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] DZ-Jay,
DJ Thanx for your explanation. This method might be more
DJ flexible, and I can trully appreciate its use, but IMHO is a nuisance
DJ when the POP3 session is interrupted, which, at least to me,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Thomas,
TF But one question remains: why do the plug-in and the tray behave
TF differently? ;-)
This is because the plug-in strips trailing spaces before signing
accordingly to recommendations - because some
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Dear DZ-Jay,
DJ But wouldn't the messages have differing Message-ID and recipients,
If CC was used - no, a single Meessage-ID is used and this is right
because it is exactly the same message.
DJ not to mention different server UIDLs?
UIDs are different and
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hello Thomas,
TF So I think TB should also keep the UIDs of message that have already
TF been downloaded if you set Delete from server.
I do not remember when the behaviour was changed (because that was not
added to the changelog), but I think it works this
On Sat 26-Jul-03 9:54pm -0400, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
BM How does one get to the address book picker from the keyboard? I've
BM looked around and don't see a way.
Press the Enter when you are in the address field and the field is
empty. When the field is not empty, press Shift Enter (it's
Hello tbudl,
All my filters ceased to work. Strange enough the only filters that
are still working are the TB's lists filters.. I removed the rest of
the filters and made them again (made some new ones too) in my 4
accounts. Tried sender, kludges etc. Without result. Nothing filters
I've been using The Bat with very few problems for years now and then
today my machine crashed. When I restarted it all the subfolders have
vanished. They're still in the directory structure on my hard drive
and have the appropriate files in them they just don't show up at all
in The Bat.
For
On Sun 27-Jul-03 3:29pm -0400, Jos Klaassens wrote:
All my filters ceased to work. Strange enough the only filters that
are still working are the TB's lists filters.. I removed the rest of
the filters and made them again (made some new ones too) in my 4
accounts. Tried sender, kludges
On Sun 27-Jul-03 3:57pm -0400, Paul Smithson wrote:
I've been using The Bat with very few problems for years now and then
today my machine crashed. When I restarted it all the subfolders have
vanished. They're still in the directory structure on my hard drive
and have the appropriate files in
Hello Bill,
Sunday, July 27, 2003, 10:00:15 PM, you wrote:
BM How about an example of a filter that doesn't work along with the
BM appropriate fields of an email that it didn't work on. BTW, make sure
BM you test it at the top of the list of filters so you are sure other
BM filters are not
Hi,
When I paste a long line (say a paragraph from Word) the editor
doesn't wrap the line and form a paragraph. I have to Alt-L to make
the line wrap.
Is this correct behaviour? When I past a number of paragraphs its
tedious to have to Alt-L for each paragraph.
--
William
Using The Bat!
27-Jul-2003 22:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The main set is always AND. You won't receive an email that contains all
of the addresses you've specified.
You have to specify the other
Hello Bill,
Sunday, July 27, 2003, 9:04:47 PM, you wrote:
BM On Sun 27-Jul-03 3:57pm -0400, Paul Smithson wrote:
I've been using The Bat with very few problems for years now and then
today my machine crashed. When I restarted it all the subfolders have
vanished. They're still in the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi William,
@27-Jul-2003, 21:50 William Sigmund [WS] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
WS When I paste a long line (say a paragraph from Word) the editor
WS doesn't wrap the line and form a paragraph...
WS Is this correct behaviour? ...
Yes, and it
Hello Alexander,
Sunday, July 27, 2003, 11:05:34 PM, you wrote:
A The main set is always AND. You won't receive an email that contains all
A of the addresses you've specified.
A You have to specify the other addresses on the Alternatives tab with the
A Add set button. It will look like...
A
On Sun 27-Jul-03 5:05pm -0400, Alexander wrote:
The main set is always AND. You won't receive an email that contains all
of the addresses you've specified.
You have to specify the other addresses on the Alternatives tab with the
Add set button. It will look like...
MainSet: [EMAIL
Hello Marck,
WS When I paste a long line (say a paragraph from Word) the editor
WS doesn't wrap the line and form a paragraph...
WS Is this correct behaviour? ...
Yes, and it is the reason that Paste formatted was added. Paste
unformatted, the default behaviour, is intended to allow the exact
Some time around 7/27/2003 14:02:14, I think I heard Stefan Tanurkov say:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] DZ-Jay,
DJ Thanx for your explanation. This method might be more
DJ flexible, and I can trully appreciate its use, but IMHO is a
Hello Bill,
Or he could keep them all in the MainSet as:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
So are you saying in one String field in the filter on the Rule tab
I can use the following?
and =
or = |
I use these in the Search for field of the Message
Hello Thomas,
It was foretold that on 27-7-2003 @ 23:34:05 GMT+0700 (which was
18:34:05 where I live) Thomas Fernandez would mumble:
TF I'm out of my wits.
Me too Thomas. I even created a whole new one, but still no go.
Strange thing is that when evoked manually, it works.
--
Best
Hello DZ-Jay,
On 28 Jul 2003 at 18:04:03 -0400 GMT [00:04 CEST] you wrote:
DJ Stefan, I think that was rather rude. I understand exactly what every
DJ one has said. I was merely stating that it *might* be a good thing to
DJ add to TB so that people that choose to *not* leave messages on the
DJ
Hello Luc,
Me too Thomas. I even created a whole new one, but still no go.
Strange thing is that when evoked manually, it works.
You are using v1.63 Beta/7. Why don't you upgrade to the latest Beta
and then, if you still have problems, bring them up in TBBeta?
--
Best regards,
Miguel A.
Hello MAU,
Me too Thomas. I even created a whole new one, but still no go.
Strange thing is that when evoked manually, it works.
You are using v1.63 Beta/7. Why don't you upgrade to the latest Beta
and then, if you still have problems, bring them up in TBBeta?
He should be aware starting
Hello Greg,
It was foretold that on 28-7-2003 @ 18:06:27 GMT-0500 (which was
1:06:27 where I live) Greg Strong would mumble:
snipped a bit
GS He should be aware starting with Beta/8 changes effect how templates
GS work.
I have used the latest beta and downgraded: the latest beta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Dear DZ-Jay,
I hope, big print would help to understand ;-)))
DJ Stefan, I think that was rather rude.
I am sorry if you felt rudeness, I specifically put the smiles to show
that I don't want to sound rude. It could be the order of
reading/replying forced me
Some time around 7/27/2003 19:28:06, I think I heard Stefan Tanurkov say:
!SNIP!
And I already replied that the logic was changed already in the
current Beta series. This could be the actual reason of this mishap -
you did not read my message before you replied to my pre-previous
message and I
Hello Stefan,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:08:37 -0400 GMT (28/07/03, 01:08 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
TF So I think TB should also keep the UIDs of message that have already
TF been downloaded if you set Delete from server.
I do not remember when the behaviour was changed (because that was
Hello Greg,
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:04:00 -0500 GMT (28/07/03, 05:04 +0700 GMT),
Greg Strong wrote:
So are you saying in one String field in the filter on the Rule tab
I can use the following?
and =
or = |
You can (at least I know about |, never tested ). But I find it
more
Hello TBUDL
At the weekend I re-formatted/partitioned my hard-drives, re-loaded
software and data without too much grief.
I changed the partition structure so when I restored TB! files I had to
point TB! to the new paths. No problem. Unfortunately I seem to have
'lost' all my Smart Bat entries
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