Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hallo Mary, On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:41:02 -0600GMT (25-1-03, 5:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: MB However, other subscribers to TBUDL are saying that properly MB written List protocols will over-ride a Poster's reply to MB configuration. It's not really a matter of properly written protocols, but it's a matter of personal taste. ;-) There are those who compare lists to newsgroups, where you can add your reply-to header to make sure the reply will be send to you privately and not public. They think that when the poster to a list supplies a reply-to that ought to be a conscious decision on his/her side that shouldn't be overridden by the list. Others think that when you're writing to a public list, you should be expecting public answers, especially since the question one person asks could be the question the next would ask too. There are other lists too. Some lists make it impossible to reply privately to the original poster, since the list software replaces his e-mail address with something else. From a privacy point of view that's great. ;-) Some list-programs have other possibilities to be configured, but some programs don't even support the possibility to insert reply-to's. It's all philosophical I think. Eventual follow-ups to tbot, please. This getting of topic. (Newsclients also support a follow-up header, to get all replies in one group after an original crossposted message.) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply to field for mailing lists
Monday, January 20, 2003, 7:45:47 PM, Thomas wrote: The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is over-riding her List settings. TF I don't think that you can override her settings, but you could try to TF use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] macro in your templates for TF that list. Thomas, Yes you can with Rootsweb lists - it's the way their listserver software works. Mary, there are two choices - first is to omit your reply to address in the account details altogether, second is to set up a reply template in your address book to override your own reply to account settings for that list like this %REPLYTO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is what I do for my Rootsweb lists ;-) -- Cheers, Anne The Bat Email - Unofficial Support Forum: http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply to field for mailing lists
Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 5:46:08 PM, Mary wrote: MB I don't think I want to get into a discussion with the MB moderator on her List settings at this point. The level of experience, MB even with her, is, I think, Outlook Express. No point doing so Mary. On Rootsweb the listowner's decision is final! g Actually I think you'll find Joan is an AOL user of many year's standing ;-) -- Cheers, Anne also a Rootsweb listowner ;-) The Bat Email - Unofficial Support Forum: http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello Anne! On Thursday, January 23, 2003, 10:41 PM, you wrote: MB I don't think I want to get into a discussion with the moderator MB on her List settings at this point. The level of experience, even MB with her, is, I think, Outlook Express. A No point doing so Mary. On Rootsweb the listowner's decision is final! A g Actually I think you'll find Joan is an AOL user of many year's A standing ;-) Well, I knew that she didn't know anything about The Bat! She said so herself when I was asking her how I could put the Reply To field into my e-mails. I didn't understand myself how it got there every place but on Senior-Newbie. Turned out I needed to uncheck something in Accounts/Properties/General--or rather erase something. :) But I thought I had to enable something, when actually it was disable I needed to do. However, other subscribers to TBUDL are saying that properly written List protocols will over-ride a Poster's reply to configuration. And apparently some do--as for instance Computers-L was consistently putting the Reply To in my posts from the time I started using The Bat! Want to move this over to TBOT? I never know these days what is OT here and what's not. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello Mary Bull, On or about Monday, January 20, 2003 at 14:12:32GMT -0600 (which was 3:12 PM in the tropics where I live) Mary Bull opined: 8 Snipped a bunch MB Peter, this is a very nice list. Some of the people on it know even MB less than I, and I'm sometimes able to help fellow Senior-Newbies. On MB the other hand, there are some who have excellent over-all knowledge MB who are giving their time, and also others whose knowledge, while MB spotty, like mine, happens to include answers to questions I ask. MB Hardly any of them have heard of The Bat! however. :) One or two, MB including the List Moderator, have. Senior-Newbies-L's list protocols MB are far less stringent than those of TBUDL. :) g You must take this opportunity to edu-ma-cate them Mary! Just think, you can be the 'ambassador of proper netiquette' on that list and make a new crop of better informed users! ;-) Work with the moderator by stating the reasons why it is important (from an organizational standpoint) to conform to established protocols. You had to know there was a (hidden) reason why you joined that list! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike I liked things better when I didn't understand them. - Calvin -- /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Flying in the stratosphere with The Bat! V1.61 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello Spike! On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 8:16 AM, you wrote: S 8 Snipped a bunch MB ... this [Senior-Newbies] is a very nice list. ... snipped a bunch more ... MB ... Hardly any of them have heard of The Bat! however. :) ... S You must take this opportunity to edu-ma-cate them Mary! Just S think, you can be the 'ambassador of proper netiquette' on that S list and make a new crop of better informed users! ;-) Work with S the moderator by stating the reasons why it is important (from an S organizational standpoint) to conform to established protocols. I think the moderator is truly already doing an excellent job of that. The list is about 2 years old. Rootsweb called it to everyone's attention (including mine) in a newsletter last week, and suddenly it had 171 new subscribers. The policy is extreme tolerance with newbies. Explain, but let them make their mistakes over and over without being scolded. There's a lot of knowledge and skill being dispensed and information offered, including advice about Netiquette, aside from my posts. Just about *everyone* there responded to my query on my missing Reply to with, hit Reply All. None of them seem to mind getting duplicate messages. :) I don't think I want to get into a discussion with the moderator on her List settings at this point. The level of experience, even with her, is, I think, Outlook Express. Good teaching goes from the known to the unknown? I think I'd better go slow. But I do mean to evangelize for The Bat! There is only one other The Bat! user on Senior-Newbie. S You had to know there was a (hidden) reason why you joined that S list! I hoped to learn something! And help where I could, of course. The people on Senior-Newbie-L tend to be my age, and their chief interest in the computer seems to be to learn to use it for doing genealogy. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply to field for mailing lists
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, Mary Bull wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MB Good teaching goes from the known to the unknown Very nice. -- JN Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello Joseph! On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 1:36 PM, you wrote: MB Good teaching goes from the known to the unknown J Very nice. Fellow teacher? At least, fellow Bat lover. I noted your version in your expanded headers. ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello All! I just subscribed to an interesting (to me) new list, Rootsweb's Senior-Newbies-L. Something about the settings I have made in The Bat! seems to be causing my Reply To field not to show. Consequently, many who choose to reply to my posts are sending the replies to me privately, when they are really meaning to post their replies to the list. Does anyone know what I should put in the address book template for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to make a Reply To with the S-N address showing in it appear in my posts to this list? The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is over-riding her List settings. I have looked at the MACRO list in Help, I have been to FAQ at Silverstones, I have studied the Reply MACROS in Accounts/Properties/Templates. Nothing that seems to meet this need springs to my untutored eye! Help? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello Mary, On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:41:09 -0600 GMT (21/01/03, 02:41 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is over-riding her List settings. I don't think that you can override her settings, but you could try to use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] macro in your templates for that list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Note: Please don't misconstrue my 14 jobs as 'job-hopping'. I have never quit a job. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello Thomas! On Monday, January 20, 2003, 1:45 PM, you wrote: MB The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is MB over-riding her List settings. T I don't think that you can override her settings, but you could try to T use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] macro in your templates for T that list. Thanks, Thomas. Put the list address in quotes, as you have above? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hi Mary, on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:41:09 -0600GMT (20.01.03, 20:41 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB I just subscribed to an interesting (to me) new list, Rootsweb's MB Senior-Newbies-L. MB Something about the settings I have made in The Bat! seems to be MB causing my Reply To field not to show. Consequently, many who choose MB to reply to my posts are sending the replies to me privately, when MB they are really meaning to post their replies to the list. MB The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is MB over-riding her List settings. Yes, it is in Account -- Properties -- General. It should suffice to delete all Reply-to information given there. You only need this entry, if you want the reply to go to another address than the From-address. When there is no reply-to header, the reply will go to the From-address. So your private mails won't be affected. HTH :-) -- Cheers Peter And always remember that it's bad style to start a sentence with a conjunction! Winamp currently playing: Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse Of The Heart Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello Peter! On Monday, January 20, 2003, 2:03 PM, you wrote: P Hi Mary, MB I just subscribed to an interesting (to me) new list, Rootsweb's MB Senior-Newbies-L. snip MB The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is MB over-riding her List settings. P Yes, it is in Account -- Properties -- General. It should suffice to delete P all Reply-to information given there. ... I have now done this. It worked. P ... You only need this entry, if you want the reply to go to P another address than the From-address. When there is no reply-to P header, the reply will go to the From-address. So your private P mails won't be affected. That's reassuring to know. Peter, this is a very nice list. Some of the people on it know even less than I, and I'm sometimes able to help fellow Senior-Newbies. On the other hand, there are some who have excellent over-all knowledge who are giving their time, and also others whose knowledge, while spotty, like mine, happens to include answers to questions I ask. Hardly any of them have heard of The Bat! however. :) One or two, including the List Moderator, have. Senior-Newbies-L's list protocols are far less stringent than those of TBUDL. :) g -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hi Thomas, on Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:45:47 +0700GMT (20.01.03, 20:45 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is over-riding her List settings. TF I don't think that you can override her settings but you could try to TF use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] macro in your templates for TF that list. This is certainly more elegant than my suggestion to leave out the reply-to entry at all... Anyway, it's most probably faulty list-server software causing this. Good thing, TB! provides work-arounds. :-) -- Cheers Peter Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. Winamp currently playing: Monty Python - The Bridge Of Death Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hi Mary, on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:12:32 -0600GMT (20.01.03, 21:12 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MB The list moderator, Joan Young, says that something in my settings is MB over-riding her List settings. P Yes, it is in Account -- Properties -- General. It should suffice to delete P all Reply-to information given there. ... MB I have now done this. It worked. It is only a work-around, but it is easier than to have them change their list-server software. Actually, _their_ Reply-to entry should override your own (if existent) on the list... MB Peter, this is a very nice list. Some of the people on it know even MB less than I, and I'm sometimes able to help fellow Senior-Newbies. You wouldn't have believed this, would you? ;-) Neither would I when I started TBUDL. So let's keep on learning. :) -- Cheers Peter It takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. Mark Twain Winamp currently playing: Magna Carta - Two old friends Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hallo Peter Meyns, am Montag, 20. Januar 2003 schriebst Du: It is only a work-around, but it is easier than to have them change their list-server software. Actually, _their_ Reply-to entry should override your own (if existent) on the list... Well, I once learned that this was deliberate, and thought all mailing list software acts this way. So I could put a Reply-To: in my mail when I only wanted answers in private mail. Worked 4 years ago when I last used it. ;-) -- Schöne Grüße Heiko Kuschel - http://www.kuschelkirche.de/ - http://www.kuschelchaos.de/ Ev. Kirchengemeinde Gochsheim - http://www.stmichael-gochsheim.de/ AMIGAplus: alles für die Freundin - http://www.amigaplus.de/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hi Heiko, on Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:59:32 +0100GMT (20.01.03, 21:59 +0100GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It is only a work-around, but it is easier than to have them change their list-server software. Actually, _their_ Reply-to entry should override your own (if existent) on the list... HK Well, I once learned that this was deliberate, and thought all mailing HK list software acts this way. So here seems to be at least one that doesn't adhere to this, what I thought to be self-imminent too. -- Cheers Peter The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with. Marty Feldman Winamp currently playing: Aimee Mann - Nobody Does It Better Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to field for mailing lists
Hello Mary, On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:57:13 -0600 GMT (21/01/03, 02:57 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: T I don't think that you can override her settings, but you could try to T use the %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] macro in your templates for T that list. Thanks, Thomas. Put the list address in quotes, as you have above? Yes, but without hyphen: %ReplyTo=[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. How can I miss you if you won't go away? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
