Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
the period is included in the copy.) http://imgsrc.com/?v=untitlbnb. Anyway, the popup continues to re-appear about every 20-30 seconds regardless of how it's disposed of; either clicking OK or clicking the red X. I assume it's almost certainly coming from my Comodo anti-virus but I'm not positive about

Re: Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack, On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 07:42:13 -0500GMT (22-3-2011, 13:42 , where I live), you wrote: JSL I get this warning every time I attach something to an JSL email. Have you got an plug-in for virus scanner installed with TB? -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators - I guess everyone has to get off

Re: Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof, On Tuesday, March 22, 2011 you wrote: RO Hallo Jack, RO On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 07:42:13 -0500GMT (22-3-2011, 13:42 , where I RO live), you wrote: JSL I get this warning every time I attach something to an JSL email. RO Have you got an plug-in for virus scanner installed with TB?

Re: Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack, On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:56:16 -0500GMT (22-3-2011, 14:56 , where I live), you wrote: RO Have you got an plug-in for virus scanner installed with TB? JSL Not that I'm aware of. How would I find out? options - preferences - virus/trojan alert - anti virus -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re: Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
- preferences - virus/trojan alert - anti virus Ok. Well as you can see (http://imgsrc.com/?v=untitlquq.) there does appear to be some sort of anti-virus but I have no idea of how it got there. I un-ticked the Check outgoing mail for viruses and then started another email including an attachment. The pop

Re: Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jack, On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:26:28 -0500GMT (22-3-2011, 17:26 , where I live), you wrote: JSL Ok. Well as you can see (http://imgsrc.com/?v=untitlquq.) JSL there does appear to be some sort of anti-virus but I have JSL no idea of how it got there. I'd suggest that you select and delete

Re: anti-virus/firewall/etc - Vipre; MAXA cookie manager

2010-12-02 Thread Edward Germain
Hello Gary, Saturday, September 25, 2010, 2:11:20 AM, you wrote: Another, related topic, is getting rid of cookies tracking you web activities. The best program I\'ve found is MAXA cookie manager. I've another candidate: SUPERAntiSpyware. Fast, precise, and astonishingly inexpensive. Under

Re[2]: anti-virus/firewall/etc - Vipre; MAXA cookie manager

2010-09-25 Thread Gary Odom
to Vipre months ago. Am quite satisfied with its features GO and performance. Vipre integrates well with the Bat! for GO anti-virus. GO Regards, GO Gary Odom GO g...@waterfire.us GO Friday, September 24, 2010 2:52:51 PM GO The Bat! version 4.2.36.4 GO OS = Windows XP 5.1 GO Friday, September 24

Anti-virus plugin

2010-01-13 Thread Cesar Santos
Hello TheBat users Is there any way to use anti-virus Microsoft Security Essentials in conjunction with the program TheBat!? If so how to install? Thanks -- Cheers , Cesar Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http

Re: Anti-virus plugin

2010-01-13 Thread MFPA
Hi On Wednesday 13 January 2010 at 7:44:05 PM, in mid:162638507.20100113174...@gmail.com, Cesar Santos wrote: Hello TheBat users Is there any way to use anti-virus Microsoft Security Essentials in conjunction with the program TheBat!? If so how to install? You would just install

Re: Anti-virus plugin

2010-01-13 Thread Cesar Santos
Hello MFPA, Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 6:56:00 PM, you wrote: Is there any way to use anti-virus Microsoft Security Essentials in conjunction with the program TheBat!? If so how to install? M You would just install and configure Microsoft Security Essentials M according to Microsoft's

Re: Anti-virus plugin

2010-01-13 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Cesar, Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 3:12:08 PM, you wrote: CS Thanks. I've already done. Can you let me know how you make out. I have it installed on a Windows 7 machine and it was very slow when scanning IMAP mail. -- Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using

Re: Anti-virus plugin

2010-01-13 Thread Cesar Santos
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:24:31 PM, you wrote: SC Can you let me know how you make out. I have it installed on a Windows 7 machine SC and it was very slow when scanning IMAP mail. Well, I've simply installed and trusting it is going to behave smoothly. I don't have

Re[2]: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

2008-04-02 Thread MFPA
Hello MFPA, Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 12:53:53 AM, you wrote: I used to have that file but it disappeared all on its own when I upgraded to v4. Had to re-install Windows. When I downloaded and installed TB! I see it has come back... -- Best regards, MFPA

Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

2008-03-19 Thread Grumpy Gamer
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:53:53 +, MFPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to have that file but it disappeared all on its own when I upgraded to v4. Hi, Odd - I upgraded to v4 a few days ago, and it was still listed afterwards. Oh well, I ended up deleting it. I have NOD32 installed, I'll just

Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

2008-03-18 Thread MFPA
Hi On Monday 17 March 2008 at 10:42:57 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Grumpy Gamer wrote: Does anyone know where the location of the anti-virus plugins in The Bat is? I have an errant plugin (Generic DLL Plugin) listed in Options-AntiVirus (with a status of 'error') and I want to get rid

Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

2008-03-17 Thread Grumpy Gamer
Hi everyone, Does anyone know where the location of the anti-virus plugins in The Bat is? I have an errant plugin (Generic DLL Plugin) listed in Options-AntiVirus (with a status of 'error') and I want to get rid of it if it isn't for an anti-virus I currently have installed. Problem is, I can't

Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

2008-03-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everyone, Does anyone know where the location of the anti-virus plugins in The Bat is? I have an errant plugin (Generic DLL Plugin) listed in Options-AntiVirus (with a status of 'error') and I want to get rid of it if it isn't for an anti-virus I currently have installed. Problem

Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

2008-03-17 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, March 17, 2008, Grumpy Gamer wrote: Does anyone know where the location of the anti-virus plugins in The Bat is? I have an errant plugin (Generic DLL Plugin) listed in Options-AntiVirus (with a status of 'error') and I want to get rid of it if it isn't for an anti-virus I

Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

2008-03-17 Thread Christopher W .
Grumpy Gamer @ 2008-3-17 5:42:57 AM Location of Anti-Virus Plugin mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know where the location of the anti-virus plugins in The Bat is? My AVG anti-virus plugin is located at: C:\Program Files\AVG\avgbat.bav -- Christopher Using The Bat! v4.0.14 on Windows

Re: Location of Anti-Virus Plugin

2008-03-17 Thread Grumpy Gamer
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:42:09 +0100, Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when is plugin created by its vendor, like AVG, Avast or Kaspersky, plugin is installed to antivirus home directory and program adds path to plugin into The Bat!'s TBPLUGIN.INI configuration file. If You have AVG instaled

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-30 Thread MAU
Hello MFPA, A test message with Eicar string attached in a txt file is sent without AMON shouting about it but picked up by IMON on receipt. And that was a big surprise to me because I was sure (without actually testing it) that AMON would detect it. But no, you are right, I have been testing

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Partous
Hello MAU, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 1:00:38 PM, you wrote: M or *.tmp is not in the list of file extensions to scan. Where do you have a list of file extensions to scan? I only see a(n empty) list of extensions NOT to be scanned... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-30 Thread MAU
Hello Mark, M or *.tmp is not in the list of file extensions to scan. Where do you have a list of file extensions to scan? I only see a(n empty) list of extensions NOT to be scanned... In the 'Extensions Editor', try deselecting the 'Analyse all files' tick box at the bottom and it will now

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Partous
Hello MAU, Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 5:41:10 PM, you wrote: M In the 'Extensions Editor', try deselecting the 'Analyse all files' tick M box at the bottom and it will now list the extensions to scan. Thanks. Ticked Analyse all files again though... -- Best Wishes, Mark

Re[2]: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-30 Thread Code 2
M or *.tmp is not in the list of file extensions to scan. Where do you have a list of file extensions to scan? I only see a(n empty) list of extensions NOT to be scanned... M In the 'Extensions Editor', try deselecting the 'Analyse all files' tick M box at the bottom and it will now list the

Re[2]: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-30 Thread Code 2
A test message with Eicar string attached in a txt file is sent without AMON shouting about it but picked up by IMON on receipt. M And that was a big surprise to me because I was sure (without actually M testing it) that AMON would detect it. But no, you are right, I have M been testing also

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-30 Thread MAU
Hello Code, NOD32 is incapable of scanning (like .tbb) will do nothing. NOD32 is still incapable of peaking inside the file. I know. But even if it was capable, I wouldn't let NOD32 (or any other antivirus) fiddle with my mail folders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-29 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, January 27, 2007, Code 2 wrote: You're right, George, we can use the plug-in to scan outgoing mail. I notice that the plug-in is a test version (version 0.1) and appears to have been developed several years ago for NOD32 version 1. The plug-in seems to work with NOD32

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-29 Thread MFPA
Hi On Sunday 28 January 2007 at 12:00:38 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], MAU wrote: Check you AMON configuration. Either you have some excluded directories or *.tmp is not in the list of file extensions to scan. I just checked mine and added TMP. I believe it was not there by default, as I

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-29 Thread MFPA
Hi On Tuesday 30 January 2007 at 1:25:04 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], MFPA wrote: Hi On Sunday 28 January 2007 at 12:00:38 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], MAU wrote: Check you AMON configuration. Either you have some excluded directories or *.tmp is not in the list of file extensions to

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-29 Thread MFPA
Hi On Saturday 27 January 2007 at 1:06:07 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], George Mitchell wrote: FWIW, I appear to have v2.51.26 of NOD32. I have 2.50.25 and clicking on update now tells me my installation is up to date and no update is required. -- Best regards, MFPA

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-29 Thread Tom
Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 12:47:29 PM, you wrote: FWIW, I appear to have v2.51.26 of NOD32. I have 2.50.25 and clicking on update now tells me my installation is up to date and no update is required. Latest version is 2.70.23 - however at this point you still have to download this

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-28 Thread MAU
Hello Code, M 2.- You forward the message after NOD32 signatures have been updated. M Then there is nothing to worry about. Why? Even though NOD32's 'IMON M does not scan outgoing email' and 'on-demand scanner does not scan tbb M files', the infected email/file you are trying to send will be

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-27 Thread MAU
Hello Code, Having said that, a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to me last week with the Fuclip.A worm). That infected e-mail would sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand scans.

Re[2]: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-27 Thread Code 2
Having said that, a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to me last week with the Fuclip.A worm). That infected e-mail would sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand scans. Since NOD32's

Re[2]: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-27 Thread Code 2
could unwittingly forward it to, and infect, an unsuspecting recipient. At best, it would be embarrassing to forward infected mail to a client. At worst it would be unprofessional, negligent and harmful. I don't think it's too much to expect an anti-virus application to be able to locate viruses

NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-26 Thread Code 2
Here's a heads-up for users of NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!. NOD32's technical support people confirmed to me that NOD32's on-demand scanner cannot scan inside The Bat's messages.tbb data files and therefore cannot spot infected e-mails. However, NOD32's IMON module scans all POP3 traffic

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-26 Thread George Mitchell
Code 2 wrote: snip C2 ...a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail C2 which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to C2 me last week with the Fuclip.A worm). That infected e-mail would C2 sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand C2 scans.

Re[2]: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-26 Thread Code 2
C2 ...a situation could arise where I receive an infected e-mail C2 which NOD32's IMON module does not yet recognize (as happened to C2 me last week with the Fuclip.A worm). That infected e-mail would C2 sit undiscovered in my inbox despite several NOD32 on-demand C2 scans. Since NOD32's IMON

Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!

2007-01-26 Thread George Mitchell
Code 2 wrote: C2 You're right, George, we can use the plug-in to scan outgoing C2 mail. I notice that the plug-in is a test version (version 0.1) C2 and appears to have been developed several years ago for NOD32 C2 version 1. The plug-in seems to work with NOD32 version 2.7 C2 except it

Re[2]: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-17 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Mica, Saturday, September 16, 2006, 11:31:40 PM, Mica wrotened: Mica Full name of the program is Avira AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic. Mica Direct link for download is: Mica http://dl7.avgate.net/down/windows/antivir_workstation_win7_en_h.exe Mica Happy anti virusing. That

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-16 Thread MFPA
Hi On Sunday 10 September 2006 at 8:55:49 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanne wrote: Do I have to go back to NAV? Entirely up to you. Never used NAV but heard plenty bad stories about it. Could not get on with AVG but my sister loves it. Nod32 came highly recommended, requires no plugin,

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-16 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 16 Sep 2006, @ @ at 22:18:16 +0100, when MFPA wrote: On Sunday 10 September 2006 at 8:55:49 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanne wrote: Do I have to go back to NAV?

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Mary Bull
don't think that discussing anti-virus programs and software firewall programs with which to back up The Bat!'s inherent security is all that far Off Topic. Not everyone is subscribed to TBOT. And TBOT is quite erratic about timely posting of messages. Erratic daily, that is. -- Best regards, Mary

Re[2]: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Susanne, Monday, September 11, 2006, 2:47:28 AM, Susanne wrotened: Is the plugin enabled and ready to go? Is email scanning enabled in the control Centre? Susanne Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting Susanne scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 at 18:47:28 -0700, Susanne wrote: Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not sure if there is anything showing the email is being scanned). Under e-mail scanner select configure and tell it to certify the

Re[3]: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Code 2
Is the plugin enabled and ready to go? Is email scanning enabled in the control Centre? Susanne Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting Susanne scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not sure if there is Susanne anything showing the email is being scanned).

Re[2]: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Jim Kyle
On Monday, September 11, 2006, at 7:31:14 AM, Robin Anson wrote: Under e-mail scanner select configure and tell it to certify the incoming mail. Then it will leave a message on the incoming mail once it has been scanned Interesting. My plug-in has both incoming and outgoing certification

Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Susanne
Hi, I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble getting it to scan TB email. The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG found a TB mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect when I downloaded the email. It also didn't remove the virus after the complete scan.

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread jim
On Sunday, September 10, 2006, at 2:55:49 PM, Susanne wrote: I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble getting it to scan TB email. Since switching from Eudora to TB! a couple of months ago, my AVG Email scan has never once found anything in the incoming mail. When I was using

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Susanne everyone else, on 10-Sep-2006 at 21:55 you (Susanne) wrote: The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG found a TB mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect when I downloaded the email. Which simply means that the virus code is sitting somewhere in one of

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Susanne, Sunday, September 10, 2006, 8:55:49 PM, Susanne wrotened: Susanne I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble Susanne getting it to scan TB email. Susanne The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG Susanne found a TB mail with the netsky virus that

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Chris W .
Susanne @ 2006-9-10 2:55:49 PM Setting up AVG anti virus with TB? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG found a TB mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect when I downloaded the email. It also didn't remove the virus after the complete scan

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Susanne
Hi, Sunday, September 10, 2006, 1:58:04 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the plugin enabled and ready to go? Is email scanning enabled in the control Centre? Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not sure if there is

Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread The Janitor
11 September 2006 - 06:48 Hello Susanne, Sunday, September 10, 2006, 8:55:49 PM, you wrote: S I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble S getting it to scan TB email. Slightly OT but as soon as I opened your message NOD32 displayed its always-reassuring signature update

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-09 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Kevin, On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:19:07 -0400 GMT(4/3/2005, 11:19 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Coates wrote: I think these types of discussions help elevate awareness of both the problems and the solutions. Words of wisdom! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat!

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-07 Thread MFPA
Hi On Tuesday 5 April 2005 at 3:22:20 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Casten wrote: Hello Anthony, Monday, April 4, 2005, 6:41:58 PM, you wrote: I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. it a feature in the sp2 version And in the version I have used since 2002. I do not have SP2

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-07 Thread MFPA
Hi On Wednesday 6 April 2005 at 3:38:26 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], rich gregory wrote: Considering such a system or user trusted don't make it so! If I trust somebody, they are trusted. The trust may, of course, be misplaced. -- Best regards, MFPA

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-07 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
MFPA writes: If I trust somebody, they are trusted. The trust may, of course, be misplaced. Exactly. By definition, someone must be trusted in every computer system. Whether or not that person is really trustworthy is irrelevant from a security standpoint; what matters in computer security

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-06 Thread AJ Blisten
Use Avast instead. Works like a charm with The Bat!, Thunderbird and Courier. I use them all on a Win XP system... AJ *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 01.04.2005 at 11:05 Jeff Gaines wrote: Hello Group Apologies if this is way off topic for this group but Norton Anti Virus (AKA

Re: Re[2]: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 04:22:20 +0200, Tim Casten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. it a feature in the sp2 version Its definitely not only in the SP2 version (I activate it on all systems where the people insist to use OE, and only a fraction of that is

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mica, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:11:18 +0200 GMT (05/04/2005, 00:11 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: The problem is that you usuallly don't know it until being told. In the meantime, you might have shared infected files. MM In the meantime you could learn too. There are many ways. Once

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 04 Apr 2005, @ @ at 16:16:37 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:46:50 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /// So, it *is* about money,

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 05-Apr-2005 at 15:11 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: In other words, you need just an echo of your attitudes (to feel safe and accepted) You don't know me other than from some characters on your screen that appeared after I tapped a few keys here and there,

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 8:16:14 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Should this be moved to TBOT? No. I don't want to read any more of it there either. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP

Re[2]: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Cuco Negron
Hola, Dwight, Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 11:57:50 AM, you wrote: DAC On Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 8:16:14 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Should this be moved to TBOT? DAC No. I don't want to read any more of it there either. Enough already, stop this nonsense, somebody close this thread, please --

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
rich gregory writes: There is NO SUCH THING as a trusted source, ever. Yes, there is such a thing, depending on one's security policies. For example, most operating systems consider any user with a valid password for a given identifier to be a trusted user of that identifier. -- Anthony

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 5 Apr 2005, @ @ at 17:36:21 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I am self confident enough that I don't need any approval for my attitude and position. Please, stop

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 5 Apr 2005, @ @ at 20:16:14 +0700, when Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Mica, My wai. [...] Are we going in circles yet? I don't know. I see the things circling around me but

Mod: Dead horse (was: Re: Anti Virus S/W)

2005-04-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas, On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:16:14 +0700GMT (5-4-2005, 15:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF Should this be moved to TBOT? moderator on Yes. I haven't got an appropriate QT to declare a thread a dead horse, but please take this elsewhere. It's not really TB-related anymore. That

Re[3]: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Maggie
Hi Cuco, On Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 12:25:26 PM you wrote: PATCO lives!! Yesss! :gdr: -- Regards, Maggie There has been opposition to every innovation in the history of man, with the possible exception of the sword.

Re[4]: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-05 Thread Cuco Negron
Hola, Maggie, Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 3:22:30 PM, you wrote: M Hi Cuco, M On Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 12:25:26 PM you wrote: PATCO lives!! M Yesss! :gdr: Glad there are people that still remember, Maggie, you made my day!!! Cuco, ZSU CERAP. -- Ramon L. Negron (Cuco) PATCO lives!! Air

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:29:15 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, it's about money. I could write some 5-6 KB on this topic, This is not about money, this is about the quality of the software, is that SO hard to understand? -- Gruesse / Greetings, Alexander Kunz

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, April 4, 2005, 2:12:15 PM, Paul wrote: PB Have you asked the List about grouping? The list has helped me over PB the years. Oh, yes! I had a gripe quite recently and many tried to help, but to no avail. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Arjan de Groot everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 00:07 you (Arjan de Groot) wrote: You really believe this, do you? I do. I've been using personal computers for almost 20 years now and never needed any protection against virusses, trojans or whatever, whatsoever. There was one

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Alexander, On 4/4/2005 12:54 PM +0200, you wrote: This was such an everyday situation, I dare say it could've happened to everyone... especially since the standard accounts creating during the Win XP installation are administrative accounts, anyway... I got adware/spyware on my machine under

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anthony, On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:38:33 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 03:38 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: AGA Antivirus products, generally speaking, are inferior substitutes for AGA safe computing practices. They are better than nothing. AGA The only threats that truly justify automated

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:02:13 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 11:02 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: [...] AGA Then they will get what they deserve. [...] AGA Shared computers are never a good idea. Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? -- Cheers, Thomas.

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:54:53 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 17:54 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Yes. Poor Average Joe User. Buys Norton Antivirus in a shop and believes he's safe... ASK I see postings here that blame the average user, I don't think that is ASK fair. Melissa

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Mica Mijatovic
Re: Anti Virus S/W, (ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Size:4106 bytes) is marked for DELETION by the filter C5AM-new ...so I would please you to send it again, addressed properly. Also, I would like if you would read again my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], about mechanisms of external authorities, and big

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread MFPA
with some comment about anti-virus precautions. I turned off the certifications and resent the same message. It got through and was replied to. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:46:50 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /// So, it *is* about money, since the value system used to estimate a software, is directly derived, to a significant extent, from what money means/represents to someone, a particular person, or a group of them. This

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:34:50 +0200, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGA Then they will get what they deserve. [...] AGA Shared computers are never a good idea. Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? Nope, its not only you. -- Gruesse / Greetings, Alexander Kunz

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Alexander S. Kunz writes: There was one incident that change my attitude towards this. I'm normally using Opera, but in order to use some pages, as you surely know, one must use Internet Explorer. One of these sites that require IE *and* ActiveX is ebay when you want to sell something and use

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Allie Martin writes: It's ridiculous now and we simply have to run the software rather than sit thinking that we alone can make the difference. It only gets dangerous when you stop thinking. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Thomas Fernandez writes: They are better than nothing. Yes, but safe computing practices are better than A/V products, and they are free and do not interfere with the functioning of the OS. Firewalls have nothing to do with AV software. They have a lot to do with safe computing, though. In

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Thomas Fernandez writes: Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? Some people think the mere notion of people having computers at home is arrogant and elitist. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 4 Apr 2005, @ @ at 12:54:53 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I see postings here that blame the average user, I don't think that is fair. Melissa Reece mentioned a bit of

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:48:35 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:48 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: They are better than nothing. AGA Yes, but safe computing practices are better than A/V products, and they AGA are free and do not interfere with the functioning of the OS. You

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mica, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:54:04 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM If I know that someone is not practising appropriate methods in making MM his/her machine safe, I will not accept an invitation, for instance, MM to chat with him/her, will not share files

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander, On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:17:37 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:17 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? ASK Nope, its not only you. OK, thanks for the heads-up. -- Cheers, Thomas. Fettflecken werden wie neu, wenn man sie

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 16:48 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: Files from a trusted source are clean by definition So, every Netsky virus that sends itself around with a fake sender address would come from a trusted source by that definition. Thats secure

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 16:43 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: Don't use the advance picture service Impractical. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one. --

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 04:44 PM +0200, you wrote: It only gets dangerous when you stop thinking. From reading your other messages it would seem that your use of your system and why *you* require or need allows you the luxury of being able to simply avoid risky practices. More power to you

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Thomas Fernandez writes: You are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files with macros are common. I'm in both, and macro-laden files comprise only a tiny minority of attached files. Right. There is no 100% protection, if you need to open those files. Often, you don't need

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Alexander S. Kunz writes: So, every Netsky virus that sends itself around with a fake sender address would come from a trusted source by that definition. Trusted sources are verifiable sources. Digital signatures come in handy here. -- Anthony

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Alexander S. Kunz writes: Impractical. Not for me. I've used eBay without the need for ActiveX. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 17:40 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: Impractical. Not for me. I've used eBay without the need for ActiveX. That conversation ends here, because it start to get redundant. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:39:51 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 22:39 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: You are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files with macros are common. AGA I'm in both, and macro-laden files comprise only a tiny minority of AGA attached

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