Re: Moving to a new pc
Hello Melissa, Saturday, April 18, 2020, 5:51:47 AM, you wrote: MR> file. Instantly, it went into "Not responding" mode, with the little MR> "thinking circle" just spinning. Endlessly, it seems. I assume you tried this more than once. MR> I did run the maintenance option before creating the TBK file. It sounds as though you are doing it correctly. Do you have access to the old set-up to create a new TBK file? MR> Some very specific help would be appreciated here. Thanks! Assuming you still have access to the original data. You could allow TB to install with it's normal default data location and then just copy everything from the original data location to the new data location. I believe that normal default data location is on the same drive of your installation of TB and is a sub-directory of your TB installation called something as simple as "Data." I happen to keep my data on another drive in d:\aBat_Data. Sorry I've had it that way so long that I don't remember what the default location is. Let me know if I can be of further help. Stay healthy! -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangroup@gmail.com === Using The Bat! v9.1.16 (64 bit) on Windows 10 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Hi Richard, On Thursday, February 20, 2020, at 7:10:39 AM PST, you wrote: > If you install TB in the new machine and open TB it will look for a > TBK. 1) If you want your data in the normal default location just > open the new install of TB without allowing it to bring over the TBK > info or setting up any account. That will establish the default data > directory. Then point TB to your TBK and it will bring over > everything to the default location. I'm trying to do this right now, and have encountered a problem. I wonder if I'm not quite using the correct method? On the new computer, after installing TB, I come to the "Create New Account" box where, in the lower left corner, there's the option to "Restore from...". That's when I pointed it to my freshly created TBK file. Instantly, it went into "Not responding" mode, with the little "thinking circle" just spinning. Endlessly, it seems. Am I supposed to somehow get past this "Create new account" box and actually open up TB without having created a "new account", *then* use the "restore" option to point to the TBK file? I did run the maintenance option before creating the TBK file. Some very specific help would be appreciated here. Thanks! -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v9.0.8 on Windows 10.0.18362 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:01:03 PM, you wrote: > Hello Tom, > > This is not the editor, these are the file associaitons in Windows. In > TB! it's under Options / Preferences / Associations; I have tickmarks > at all of them. > Your TB! cannot set the associations, as you do not have admin rights. > Log in as admin into your Windows system, and then run TheBat. Or try > "run as". Hi Thomas, thank you - that error message did not pop up again. However, I am a bit confused as to the default font and font size. Writing this now I am using Verdana 14 and this is easy on my eyes. This is also how I had it before. In one other account it's the same but testing it across different accounts I am also getting Calibri 9 which is way too small for my eyes. Under Preferences/Viewer Editor/ Profile Layout I have Verdana 14, so why is this not working across all accounts? -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Hello Tom, On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 14:54:05 +1100 GMT (01-Mar-20, 10:54 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: > The only minor difference I noticed is that the editor seems to be > a bit different and trying to amend > this to my preferences with respect to font or html I am getting an error > message of : > some of the extensions/protocolls could not be associated. It is > possible that you do not have access rights to > do that or some software prevents you from that. It was not possible to > associate with: > .eml (message files in RFC -822 format) > . MSG > .VCF > Mailto: > any suggestions? This is not the editor, these are the file associaitons in Windows. In TB! it's under Options / Preferences / Associations; I have tickmarks at all of them. Your TB! cannot set the associations, as you do not have admin rights. Log in as admin into your Windows system, and then run TheBat. Or try "run as". -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9.12 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18363 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Hi everyone, thank you very much for your assistance, I am happy to report that I am now working of the new pc with the migration of TB successfully done. I used the backup and indeed this worked very well. All accounts/templates are still the same. The only minor difference I noticed is that the editor seems to be a bit different and trying to amend this to my preferences with respect to font or html I am getting an error message of : some of the extensions/protocolls could not be associated. It is possible that you do not have access rights to do that or some software prevents you from that. It was not possible to associate with: .eml (message files in RFC -822 format) . MSG .VCF Mailto: any suggestions? -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Thank you everyone, very helpful. I am still preparing my new pc and come across another issue with TB that I need clarification. Some years ago I had created an "Archive Folder" password protected for some very old messages that I could not delete but did not need TB access every day. I just checked and this folder is on a different directory as my other folders. I am not really sure what will happen now and if that folder is included in the backup file? Given the size of 8.6gb I doubt that it would be part of my normal tbk file (9.5 gb). I could manually put this folder onto the external drive but while my current drive letter is E and this shows up in the config of TB for this folder, my new pc does not allow me to create a drive E, so my backup/data drive will be F. I could probably live with the archive folder now being dumped but don't want this to become an issue for my active accounts. Should I move this archive folder temporarily back to the OS-drive together with the other active folders under AppData\Roaming\The Bat!? At the moment I can still access the folder and open it within the Bat but don't know what would happen if I moved to the new pc and the TB looks for a drive that does not exist. Would it still appear in the folder structure within TB, allowing me to open it and point to the new F-drive at that point? -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Hello Richard, On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:45:38 -0500 GMT (21-Feb-20, 07:45 +0700 GMT), Richard Newman via TBUDL wrote: [...] T>> Do you think one or the other method is safer? >I think transferring via the TBK backup is safer and cleaner > . . . when it works (it usually does). Running the Maintenance > Center first should help insure this. If it doesn't work, it is > probably because of corruptions in your files that weren't fixed by > running Maintenance. Then Peter's method of copying the data > directory over will work, quite probably bringing the file corruptions over. >Remember, you still have the original data files and, > probably/hopefully, a normal system backup of the same as insurance. FWIW, I have used the internal back-up/restore methid several times when moving to a new computer without any problems. I don't run the full Maintenance but only "Delete Duplicates" and "Compact" in order to not copy all the deleted files. I also "Empty" and "Compact" Sent, Outbox and Trash. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9.12 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18363 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Hello Tom, T> thank you for your assistance. When you refer to the tbk file that's the backup files, right? Yes, the TBK file is the Bat backup file. To prepare for moving, I would first go to the Folder Maintenance Center and run everything. That will compress your files and to hopefully assure that everything is aligned. Then I would run a new full backup just to use for the transfer rather than relying on your existing weekly backup. T> Will that include also my templates? Yes, your TBK backup should include your templates, account information, address book, everything. Just make sure that you have checked all the boxes including global for the backup. T> Do you think one or the other method is safer? I think transferring via the TBK backup is safer and cleaner . . . when it works (it usually does). Running the Maintenance Center first should help insure this. If it doesn't work, it is probably because of corruptions in your files that weren't fixed by running Maintenance. Then Peter's method of copying the data directory over will work, quite probably bringing the file corruptions over. Remember, you still have the original data files and, probably/hopefully, a normal system backup of the same as insurance. Hope this helps. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com === Using The Bat! v9.0.16.9 (BETA) (64 bit) on Windows 10 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Friday, February 21, 2020, 3:10:39 AM, you wrote: > If you install TB in the new machine and open TB it will look for a TBK. > 1) If you want your data in the normal default location just open > the new install of TB without allowing it to bring over the TBK info > or setting up any account. That will establish the default data > directory. Then point TB to your TBK and it will bring over > everything to the default location. Dear Richard, thank you for your assistance. When you refer to the tbk file, that's the backup files, right? I can see my weekly tbk file currently is about 9.5gb. Just checked my schedule and for my backups I ticked everything under options and all accounts. Will that include also my templates? Do you think one or the other method is safer? -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
> Here is how I have done it: First look up the location of the "Mail > Directory" on your current PC under Preferences/System. Then install > TB on the new machine but don't start it yet. Or start it and don't > configure anything but quit it. Then copy the complete "Mail > Directory" from your old machine to the new one. That's it - if you > haven't changed the default location of the "Mail Directory" on your old PC. Peter, thanks for your help. Currently I am using the default setting pointing to my os/drive Appdata... I can see that both under preferences and registry. When you mention the complete mail directory, do you refer to the folder "The Bat!" in appData folder, ie I just copy everything including all subfolders? That seems almost too easy. -- Tom using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new pc
Hello Tom, Peter's suggestions should work just fine for you. I keep my TB data files on a separate hard drive/partition. And have gone through the same exercise you are encountering. I usually do a backup in TB and move the files over via the backup to keep things in sync. If you install TB in the new machine and open TB it will look for a TBK. 1) If you want your data in the normal default location just open the new install of TB without allowing it to bring over the TBK info or setting up any account. That will establish the default data directory. Then point TB to your TBK and it will bring over everything to the default location. 2) If you want you data in another location, give TB that location during set-up or go back into the installed TB and change the mail directory (under Options, Preferences, System) to the location you want. Then have TB import your TBK file. Your choice on which method you prefer. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com === Using The Bat! v9.0.16.9 (BETA) (64 bit) on Windows 10 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new PC
Dear Richard, @15-Apr-2004, 18:35 Richard Wakeford [RW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RW I know this has been discussed before but I've searched the RW archives and my folder and can't find anything. I currently have RW TB! on a PC running W2K Pro and am just about to take delivery RW of a new PC with XP Pro installed. If I use the same directory RW structure on the new PC can I copy across my complete TB! backup RW so that all files and settings will be installed or is it more RW difficult than that? Slightly. You need the registry settings too. Recommended: Use TB's built in back up facility to create a .TBK file containing everything from your current system. Copy that to the new system before you install TB. Choose the install option to create new accounts using .TBK backup file. All will be well in your TB garden. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new PC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Slightly. You need the registry settings too. Thanks for that and the rest of the instructions. The new PC arrives a week tomorrow so I'll get well prepared beforehand. - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.05 Beta/16 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and the best browser: Opera 7.50 build 3714 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQH7arhqZtcDKk7W+EQLV0ACfUiHeqxWKg5FfD/TZM4UcEuZeDW8AoJVW wVyymEbCBb8h93afg2JqSQlW =LwpR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
