The tunnel of death surely counts as a cave, right?
Read all about it here:
https://weazelwise.com/2021/06/23/blackberry-winter-in-the-cumberland-platea
u-part-2-tennessee/
Sleazel
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Are those THE Lounge lizards? As in the Austin lounge Lizards? If so the Weazel
is highly impressed!
Sleaze
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Charles
Loving
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 1:20 PM
To: Alicia Loving ; quincti...@aol.com; Carl Kunath
; Byrd, Tom M ; Cavers Texas
; Mills
When oh when will they be extinct? But you got one thing wrong, our governor’s
name is Ron deSantamuerte!
Sleazel
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Charles
Loving
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 1:07 PM
To: TeleBob ; Ted Samsel ; Fontaine
Maverick ; Cavers Texas ;
Michael Ventura ; Gretta
The correct word is “Spunkalunker”, not “Spelunker”.
So I reckon your reticence makes you a “spunkalurker”. I’m one too. Despite a
lifelong love of karst, cave entrances, and cavers, I have always hated the
insides of caves, especially those with “enhanced gravity” such as pits,
traverses,
And to think that Outside magazine used to have writers like David Quammen!
I think they are trying to limbo lower than National Geographic;
nevertheless, any story in which the Mormonians continue their search for
the golden plates is good.
Certain elements of the story do ring true, not the
A geezer bolt climb, the Weazel is highly impressed!
Sleaze
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Mark
Minton
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 5:42 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; swrcav...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Texascavers] High Adventure
Last March Bob Alderson, Yvonne Droms, and
To speak of eugenics as though it is the ultimate evil is guilt by
association. Just because a deranged evil Nazi perverted and misunderstood a
basic biological concept doesn't make that concept bad.
Every person who makes a thoughtful decision as to with whom they will have
offspring, and
Onceuponatime the Weazel found a ‘corn crib’ in a cave somewhere in the Vaca
plateau in Belize. The cobs were only about 3” long, and the most interesting
thing was the small number of kernel rows, I don’t remember exactly, but it may
have been only four kernel rows per cob, obviously very old
The Mighty Mustelid takes umbrage at the implication that a civet, which is
not a cat, is in any way related to a Weazel!
Sleazeweazel
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Nancy
Weaver
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:38 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] It is a tough
A spectacular achievement! And now they are headed to Mars!
In 1987 I was in the area south of Guiyang and marveled at the beauty and
inaccessibility of the karst. It was the most backwards area I had ever seen,
then or since. The resident hill tribes were barely out of the stone age, they
Nonsense! Everything is either concave or convex, so whatever you think of it
must be of sex!
With apologies to Logan, most anthropologists and archaeologists are about as
rigorously scientific as a sociologist!
SW
-Original Message-
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Mike
Flannigan
What has become of Locklear? I followed his neverending saga with bemused
interest. Is his skeleton in a broken down car somewhere in the desert?
As for old Ted, he is my favorite mass murderer. Though his acts are
reprehensible, his anti technology “Manifesto” arguments are damned near
The Weazel has just the opposite problem. I live in a karstic landscape in
north Florida typified by shallow lakes, actually dolinas. We call them
prairies because they are often dry and filled with grass. When I moved here
almost forty years ago Grassy lake just to the north was full of water,
No Nancy, please, we need you and everyone else including David to keep this
strange little community and the memories therein alive. Who cares if there
is a lunatic babbling in the distance.
Sleazel
-Original Message-
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Nancy
Weaver
Sent: Monday,
David #2: Remember that if a chicken can lay an egg it can lay you!
Now on to a movie review:
“Time Trap”, now available on Netflix, features everything a caver could
possibly ask for. The hapless spunkalunkers include the necessary two hot
chicks in tank tops. They are inexplicably
The Weazel seconds that opinion, "It" is a classic! I read incessantly, and
though I rarely read horror novels I consider Stephen King to be our best
contemporary novelist!
Fans of the genre may also wish to watch "Killer Clowns from Outer Space",
another classic!
Sleaze
-Original
Mark: Good to see you at the Old Timers however briefly! I think there were
closer to 2000 people there but I'm not sure.
Peter would be rolling over in his grave to learn of the changes afoot for
the Old Timers watersports. The collapse of the hot tub last year has led to
dire new plans. These
Y'all Texicans might want to read the Weazel's three part series about my
recent trip to the NSS convention and adventures pertaining thereunto.
Parts one and two have already been published and are available on
weazelwise.com.
There is no karst in Part 1, but it is a series, so I
Vaya con Oztotl Amigo!
Sleazel
-Original Message-
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Vivian
Loftin
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:47 AM
To: Cavetex
Subject: [Texascavers] Ernie
I'm sorry to report that Ernie Garza has drawn his last breaths. It's
official as of 4:30am. He went
Proof is the degree to which I can polarize opinion!
XxxSW
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Nancy
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:43 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories:
Having spent time w sleaze I’m pretty sure his energy field is the
Everywhere I go I carry a small cheap pocket compass. Oftentimes I even remove
the plate so all I have to carry is a little round plastic disc not much bigger
than a silver dollar. Cheap? Yes, but all compasses work which is why you can
pay $5 and get one that is “guaranteed” to work.
So
Was it your dream bucket?
SW
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 11:44 AM
To: CaveTex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Ernie's shed
Somewhere in Ernie's shed is a 10 gallon metal bucket that I want to save.
I will come from Houston to get it - if that is
Gratz you old geezer!
SW
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 5:47 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Circumstances
Be well, my friend. Oh, and be careful, old man!
Alex
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Mark:
Sorry I missed you! I didn't spend much time at the High school and the
campground was chaos due to the storms. This was the first time I have set foot
in a high school since I graduated in 1966 and I was not pleased to return. I
love caver gatherings, but NSS Conventions are not for
“Once a caver, always a caver, however time and circumstance may change us.”
Truer words were never spoken. After the wretched NSS convention, during which
I enjoyed meeting Terry Raines, Jay Jordan, Wild Bill Rupely and other
Texicans, Buford Pruitt and I headed to the Caney fork (Virgin
I'm the wrong guy for the job. I'm planning to spend as little time as
possible actually attending the convention, howdy party and a few talks on
Tuesday, otherwise I will be somewhere else. How on earth is Ernie getting
there? Where is he staying?
Xxx
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Nancy
Logan:
Since you brought up the Chiquibul, and since it was not calm, I feel compelled
to correct your memory of the events. I have gathered that you think that I
“forced” myself upon the expedition but that was not the case.
Back in 83 (I think?) I had recently returned to Belmopan
The main point is that old fashioned first aid consisting of a tourniquet, then
cutting and sucking, is worse than useless. It is the reason so many people in
the past lost their limbs and/or suffered extreme tissue damage. The only thing
worse is the idiotic idea that electrocuting yourself
What a wonderful man! I called him dapper Don because despite the mud and blood
he always looked so preternaturally neat and clean. I will never forget the
wonderful post convention (94?) trip to Mexico that he organized and led. We
were a somewhat fractious group, but Don kept us all on an
Breaking news: Just forty miles from New York City amateur
Spunkalunkologists broke though into the second chamber of an unexplored
cave 1000 feet below the Appalachian trail. In doing so they released hordes
(countless millions!) of gigantic bloodthirsty Mexican free tailed bats that
have
Rejoice fellow adventurers for the Weazel has resumed blabbing on the
Weazelwise.com blog.
The latest posting is a blast from the past, the very first story I ever
wrote with the intent to publish, but it has never seen the light of day
until now!
Thanks Nancy! I constantly battle both left and right, whosoever wears blinders
is fair game!
But did anyone actually read the linked article in question? I wouldn’t have
even brought the subject up on this forum if it didn’t pertain to caves and
caving.
Diana:
The fact that we are all human beings, and that there are no “pure” groups
within our species, does not mean that we are all alike, or that different
groups do not have different propensities associated with varying gene
frequencies.
Evolution is ongoing and is influenced by
A very interesting article pertaining to the art of getting lost recently
appeared in the Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/02/getting-lost-cave-labyri
nth-brain/582865/
I call it an art because for all of my life I have been cursed by an
inability to get lost.
Giant Scolopendra centipedes are bad to the bone and found in dry habitats over
much of the neotropics. The biggest I have ever seen have been in the
Caribbean. An old friend once told me the tale of the time he was in Aruba or
some such place making a teaser shoot for a proposed TV program
And then there was the time I terrorized a newbie in a west Virginia cave by
rattling a can of carbide while a nearby train went by and telling him it was
an earthquake! Don’t forget the goldline!
Sleaze
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Logan
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 3:44 PM
To:
David:
I have 85% more Neanderthal genes than do most other people, and my cranial
capacity is in the top 98th percentile cuz us cavemen are smart!
Sleaze
From: Texascavers On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:33 PM
To: CaveTex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Video of
Sheck was able to accomplish so much because of an almost robotic certainty
that if he did something correctly he would prevail. That works well until the
world dishes up something unexpected such as an accident.
Sometime during the mid 70s my future ex wife Lema and I had gone to Texas for
Jacqui:
I was just in the area north of Mobile, which is to say in the big
triangle between the Tombigbee and Alabama rivers. I found a few leads but no
caves. Much more needs to be explored there.
The Shoals can be interesting. Be sure to go to the Sipsey wilderness.
Sleazel
In a
The Weazel is hunting snakes in the Red hills of Bamalama right now but I
haven't found a single one. Snakes are a thing of the past.
There are caves here too but the area is almost totally unexplored in that
respect. Whodathunk there were caves just north of Mobile?
SW
-Original
Does anyone know how to contact Peter Haberland who explored Jul Mas Nim
near the village of Yalijux in Alta Verapaz? He is apparently not an NSS
member. Prior to the discovery of the Chiquibul system Jul Mas Nim was the
longest known cave in Central America. Here is a photo complete with
When it comes to drugs I'll have whatever you are having!
Sleazel
In a message dated 3/3/2017 1:39:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dlocklea...@gmail.com writes:
Do any of you ever have really weird or bizarre caving dreams ?
The story below is a true recollection, if the memory of the
(Apologies if this appears twice, had a pooter glitch)
I remember Bob (Thrun that is) from what seems to me like the dawn of
time. During the mid to late 60s the Washington DC area cavers were an odd
lot,
lots of CIA spooks and autistic technogeeks like Bob. He took caving very
seriously
I remember Bob (Thrun that is) from what seems to me like the dawn of
time. During the mid to late 60s the Washington DC area cavers were an odd
lot,
lots of CIA spooks and autistic technogeeks like Bob. He took caving very
seriously and was methodical in all matters. Having a peach
Here you see a solemn ceremony in which a virgin offers herself to Great
Dasypus to insure a bountiful supply of worms in the year to come.
When I walked across the bridge into El Paso I had no documentation so the
official asked me if I was an American citizen. In reply I simply held up
“The animal was cooked using its armor as a natural container, directly on
the fire
So it turns out that my recipe is 9000 years old and has been good ever
since. Just yesterday I finished the last of an excellent batch of well aged
armadillo stew over yellow rice, Superlative!
Can I please be removed from the Poison ivy thread?
Guys, trim your replies. You are replying to BOTH the senders AND the
list. We get two emails from you. Please.
We have had this discussion before. What part of do not use the reply
button don't you get? It is bad enough to babble
Y'all sound like a bunch of old women sitting around the kitchen swapping
folk tales.
Many members of the Anacardiaceae produce Urushiol which sometimes causes
contact dermatitis among those who are allergic to the substance. It is not
a contact poison, it is an allergen, the response to
In a message dated 10/23/2013 1:21:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
power_lou...@hotmail.com writes:
I just have one question, why did they want to put a nature trail in an
area with such toxic vegetation?
Cuz it was a cruise ship destination! Originally known at Little Stirrup
key it was
So, how is solo caving different from solo trail running, solo hiking, or
solo driving on rural roads.
It isn't. The truth is that one dark passage much resembles another and the
additional impediment of ropes and such makes it more trouble than it is
worth when the glorious outdoors
My apologies to the goat.
SW
In a message dated 9/1/2013 11:25:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wo...@justfamily.org writes:
However, as a member of the community, I do object to the comment about
the TCR, and we DO have a rule about flaming on the list, and purposely trying
to get
My apologies to the goat.
SW
In a message dated 9/1/2013 11:25:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wo...@justfamily.org writes:
However, as a member of the community, I do object to the comment about
the TCR, and we DO have a rule about flaming on the list, and purposely trying
to get
Mars has rocks too, and I feel certain there must be a hole there somewhere
even if it isn't in limestone.
As to keeping it to caving, what a joke! For the last year or so all I have
read on this list is a litany of age related woes, various personal
disasters, and daily updates concerning
Mars has rocks too, and I feel certain there must be a hole there somewhere
even if it isn't in limestone.
As to keeping it to caving, what a joke! For the last year or so all I have
read on this list is a litany of age related woes, various personal
disasters, and daily updates concerning
I stand corrected. Charlie Loving informs me that the cave with a train
going uphill at about 45 degrees to the entrance was Grutas de Garcia, not
Bustamonte. My memory is a bit fuzzy on all this but I didn't imagine it, the
sacred glasses are in the dish drainer at this very moment!
I stand corrected. Charlie Loving informs me that the cave with a train
going uphill at about 45 degrees to the entrance was Grutas de Garcia, not
Bustamonte. My memory is a bit fuzzy on all this but I didn't imagine it, the
sacred glasses are in the dish drainer at this very moment!
The great cave of Bustamonte looms large in the overstuffed memory of many
of us who have spent time in Mexico. Some of you may not approve of my
remembrance, but the statute of limitations must surely have passed by now
despite the fact that I can't remember the date. In fact, I'm not even
I stand corrected. Charlie Loving informs me that the cave with a train
going uphill at about 45 degrees to the entrance was Grutas de Garcia, not
Bustamonte. My memory is a bit fuzzy on all this but I didn't imagine it, the
sacred glasses are in the dish drainer at this very moment!
The great cave of Bustamonte looms large in the overstuffed memory of many
of us who have spent time in Mexico. Some of you may not approve of my
remembrance, but the statute of limitations must surely have passed by now
despite the fact that I can't remember the date. In fact, I'm not even
I'm a fully credentialed hippie who went to the 67 convention on my way to
California for the summer of love and despite that I loathe the Doors,
Deep Purple and all other such music for idiots.
On my last trip to Thailand I was literally driven out of paradise by
pseudonegro Thai Rastas
I'm a fully credentialed hippie who went to the 67 convention on my way to
California for the summer of love and despite that I loathe the Doors,
Deep Purple and all other such music for idiots.
On my last trip to Thailand I was literally driven out of paradise by
pseudonegro Thai Rastas
Someone recently sent out a request for cave jokes, but this is not a joke.
The Weazel just celebrated his 65th which was coincident with the ascension
of Pope Weazelicus LXV to the throne of St. Peter.
The rites lasted for four days and included not only the issuance of a
papal bull, but
Someone recently sent out a request for cave jokes, but this is not a joke.
The Weazel just celebrated his 65th which was coincident with the ascension
of Pope Weazelicus LXV to the throne of St. Peter.
The rites lasted for four days and included not only the issuance of a
papal bull, but
Someone recently sent out a request for cave jokes, but this is not a joke.
The Weazel just celebrated his 65th which was coincident with the ascension
of Pope Weazelicus LXV to the throne of St. Peter.
The rites lasted for four days and included not only the issuance of a
papal bull, but
Enough of fear. Let's stick to perversity and the growth rate of formations
in unlikely places.
A DC caver friend who some of you may know works for the Park Service and
for many years had the unenviable task of chasing the gay guys out of the
men's room at the Washington monument at the
Enough of fear. Let's stick to perversity and the growth rate of formations
in unlikely places.
A DC caver friend who some of you may know works for the Park Service and
for many years had the unenviable task of chasing the gay guys out of the
men's room at the Washington monument at the
Enough of fear. Let's stick to perversity and the growth rate of formations
in unlikely places.
A DC caver friend who some of you may know works for the Park Service and
for many years had the unenviable task of chasing the gay guys out of the
men's room at the Washington monument at the
Here in Florida there are nettles specifically associated with deeply
shaded limestone outcrops. I think the genus is Laportea but not the species
canadensis. The best way to find them is to get all hot and sweaty then climb
up overgrown rocky bluffs with bare arms and legs. They go well
Crazier and crazier.
And to think that I have often been criticized by fellow cavers for
entering caves in Belize without the permission of the Department of
Archeology!
By the way, if you want to see a real crystal(ized) skull I recommend the
one in the Grutas de Juxtlahuaca.
Crazier and crazier.
And to think that I have often been criticized by fellow cavers for
entering caves in Belize without the permission of the Department of
Archeology!
By the way, if you want to see a real crystal(ized) skull I recommend the
one in the Grutas de Juxtlahuaca.
In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes:
Bruce,
You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for
lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs
favorite patient and maybe a life
I have. I live here in Gainesville which is full of tropical researchers
and doctors, none of whom can tell shit (as in a fresh specimen) from
shinola.
In a message dated 12/7/2012 12:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
t.b.sam...@gmail.com writes:
You go to the wrong doctors. Try a
In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes:
Bruce,
You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for
lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs
favorite patient and maybe a life
In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:38:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org writes:
Bruce,
You should find an infectious disease doctor and get tested (probably for
lots of things). Plus I’m sure you will be an infectious disease Drs
favorite patient and maybe a life
The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an
interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us.
We
arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house
had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green
The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an
interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us.
We
arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house
had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green
The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an
interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us.
We
arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house
had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green
Herr Gluesenkamp:
Emails to andy (at) gluesenkamp all bounce.
Sleaze
Herr Gluesenkamp:
Emails to andy (at) gluesenkamp all bounce.
Sleaze
Herr Gluesenkamp:
Emails to andy (at) gluesenkamp all bounce.
Sleaze
But Nancy, your story isn't complete. Didn't the Arc narks try to have you
arrested for going to the cave in the first place? That has happened to me
three times in Belize.
The first time a humorless jerk named Tom Miller tried to have me thrown
out of the country for visiting the
But Nancy, your story isn't complete. Didn't the Arc narks try to have you
arrested for going to the cave in the first place? That has happened to me
three times in Belize.
The first time a humorless jerk named Tom Miller tried to have me thrown
out of the country for visiting the
But Nancy, your story isn't complete. Didn't the Arc narks try to have you
arrested for going to the cave in the first place? That has happened to me
three times in Belize.
The first time a humorless jerk named Tom Miller tried to have me thrown
out of the country for visiting the
Y'all are poppin my bubble, I thought Texas was crawling with big cats,
even saw one myself draped across the tailgate of a pickup out in Big bend.
Ain't you got plenty of whitetails for catbait? Hell, I even saw one up close
here in Florida on my fiftieth birthday right outside of Hogtown.
Y'all are poppin my bubble, I thought Texas was crawling with big cats,
even saw one myself draped across the tailgate of a pickup out in Big bend.
Ain't you got plenty of whitetails for catbait? Hell, I even saw one up close
here in Florida on my fiftieth birthday right outside of Hogtown.
Y'all are poppin my bubble, I thought Texas was crawling with big cats,
even saw one myself draped across the tailgate of a pickup out in Big bend.
Ain't you got plenty of whitetails for catbait? Hell, I even saw one up close
here in Florida on my fiftieth birthday right outside of Hogtown.
Music? Just words? For posterity please!
SW
Music? Just words? For posterity please!
SW
Music? Just words? For posterity please!
SW
In a message dated 10/17/2012 7:01:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
texascavers-digest-h...@texascavers.com writes:
Geoff Hoese will present the Program as: Caving Adventures in Ecuador
East of the Andes? Cordillera de Cutucu? Cord del condor?
Weazel wants to know and wishes he could
In a message dated 10/17/2012 7:01:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
texascavers-digest-h...@texascavers.com writes:
Geoff Hoese will present the Program as: Caving Adventures in Ecuador
East of the Andes? Cordillera de Cutucu? Cord del condor?
Weazel wants to know and wishes he could
In a message dated 10/17/2012 7:01:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
texascavers-digest-h...@texascavers.com writes:
Geoff Hoese will present the Program as: Caving Adventures in Ecuador
East of the Andes? Cordillera de Cutucu? Cord del condor?
Weazel wants to know and wishes he could
Sanguisuga, the name says it all. Every year about this time the evil
little bloodsucking bastards find their way into my home here at Weazelworld in
north Florida. They generally go in pairs, so if you find one keep looking.
Strip the bed being careful to look inside pillow cases and
Sanguisuga, the name says it all. Every year about this time the evil
little bloodsucking bastards find their way into my home here at Weazelworld in
north Florida. They generally go in pairs, so if you find one keep looking.
Strip the bed being careful to look inside pillow cases and
Sanguisuga, the name says it all. Every year about this time the evil
little bloodsucking bastards find their way into my home here at Weazelworld in
north Florida. They generally go in pairs, so if you find one keep looking.
Strip the bed being careful to look inside pillow cases and
They are unbelievably common in Florida wherever there is sand, and due to
global warming they and fire ants have made it all the way up to Tennessee.
First you have to catch the diller. I say catch rather than shoot because
you don't want to mess up the built in soup bowl. The simplest way
They are unbelievably common in Florida wherever there is sand, and due to
global warming they and fire ants have made it all the way up to Tennessee.
First you have to catch the diller. I say catch rather than shoot because
you don't want to mess up the built in soup bowl. The simplest way
Stefan's thin sliced pork and chicken in ancho sauce sound good too.
Why don't you dudes do diller as did the Mayans. I dang near live on
diller here in Florida. On the half shell is the way to go. Skinning the belly
hair is the only hard part. crust up salt and chili then slow cook over
Stefan's thin sliced pork and chicken in ancho sauce sound good too.
Why don't you dudes do diller as did the Mayans. I dang near live on
diller here in Florida. On the half shell is the way to go. Skinning the belly
hair is the only hard part. crust up salt and chili then slow cook over
Caver cunnie is the best! Let's face it Cave Chicks are hot, that is why I
go to cave gatherings. You think I do it for the caves? Yet another cold
dark hole in the ground? No, I prefer warm. I have porked more different mud
covered pud muffins due to chance encounters at the hot tub than
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