Re: [Therion] A wtherion update

Some great changes since I last saw it! The response is really fast. A few things that have thrown me off, all of which are because the work is not finished, so please take them only as a "it would be nice to keep this in mind for the future". Bézier curves are very limited. I cannot make an

Re: [Therion] Geographical Coordinates on grid

I know John Stevens did this ages ago - he does read this mailing list sometimes, maybe he can say how he did it. I rather suspect he manually specified the grid lines and crosses, and point labels for the numbers. ___ Therion mailing list

Re: [Therion] Placing labels or symbols over top of labels

Is it possible to draw line arrow (or other symbols) over top of areas clipped by the ‘shadow’ of labels? Sorry, I don't have the time to test right now, so I am going to throw some ideas at you. Try -clip off with the arrow, because that makes things get drawn later (though I think arrows

Re: [Therion] Semi-transparent rock borders

I have some closed rock borders that are opaque as expected when viewing my PDF file in Adobe Acrobat and FoxIT but are semi-transparent in Okular and Atril. Any suggestions on how to make them really opaque (on all PDF viewers)? Translucency (which you only get on rock borders when using

Re: [Therion] Change altitude colours

Hi Paul, /colour map-fg altitude/ Yes indeed, you can use a lookup table. https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/examples#colour_palette_scales_-_lookups https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg06798.html Lookup tables allow you to do specific colouring by maps, or altitude. I have never

Re: [Therion] Turning LIDAR point clouds into cave maps

You can do a lot of DistoX2 splays and then try to manually match the LIDAR point cloud to the DistoX2 splay model. This is the method I used twelve years ago when I was first experimenting - it is very time consuming. Now I would suggest you use something that is sufficiently large enough to

Re: [Therion] Turning LIDAR point clouds into cave maps

Hi Bill, A few years ago Apple released a very high-end smartphone which has a LIDAR feature (iPhone 12 Pro).  There are a few more models now which have it.  I have heard of some people using this to create cave maps. There is much I do not understand. Has anyone in the group taken the

Re: [Therion] scale option for lines

I can't see the effects of scale option in lines. Can someone describe a situation where the lines are affected by the scale option? Lines are not affected by it when they are drawn. If I remember correctly, lines default to medium (normal) thickness. However, you can use the

Re: [Therion] anchors and rebelays line options

I am trying to understand the effect of the anchors and rebelays line options. I can´t visually see any difference in the outputed map and looking in the code, I can´t find a place where the TT_LINE_TAG_ROPE_ANCHORS and TT_LINE_TAG_ROPE_REBELAYS flags are used. I can only find where they are

Re: [Therion] Problems generating the sketch KML file

 input T97-1p.th2 If I am right, the error is in this file. You need to check if you have created station points, with the correct -name options, for all of your stations in the scraps. ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk

Re: [Therion] Problems generating the sketch KML file

Hi Brauli, Xtherion does not calculate the coordinates of the sketch and places it incorrectly in Google Earth. Sounds like your scraps may be missing the station points. Therion sometimes manages to muddle through when they are all missing, for generating a PDF, but it cannot cope when

Re: [Therion] A puzzle in Loch

> Hmmm.   Maybe I am not using the splay flag correctly?  Is there > another flag that might be more appropriate? flags duplicate = a leg that must not count towards the length. It can count towards the vertical range, if it is the highest or lowest point in the cave. Use this when you have

Re: [Therion] A puzzle in Loch

On 15/08/2023 22:52, Bill Gee wrote: > Looking at the .lox file for Stark Caverns, I see a spike that does not > make any sense.  I suspect it might be a blunder in the LRUD data, > perhaps a misplaced decimal point - but I have searched all over the > data and cannot find anything that looks out

Re: [Therion] Problem with Depth

No problemo, glad it was so easy to solve :) On 15/08/2023 21:33, Torsten Schnitter wrote: > Hi Tarquin > Thanks a lot for your advices! > It was not a wrong station point but missing ones. > I did not have all stations within the drawing but only some. > And therefore not all surveys did have

Re: [Therion] Problem with Depth

Sorry, I accidentally sent this direct instead of to the list. Copied below to save anyone else having to send replies. This solved the issue. On 15/08/2023 20:14, Tarquin Wilton-Jones wrote: > Hi Torsten, > >> Does anyone have a hint what's going on and what is wrong? > > I would export a .3d

Re: [Therion] How to add 1.5 x linefeed to a text string

> Could not make that work. No errors, Therion just echos what is typed in > the text string. I only ever used it directly in the metapost (it's in my code for creating custom labels). In the .th, Therion turns everything into \char103 escape sequences. In the metapost, you have more control. I

Re: [Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

> Something along the lines of > map ProblemchamberMP > GrandcanyonSP > FlatroomSP > endmap > > select Problemchamber > export map -proj plan -o Problemchamber.th2 > > Instead of exporting to pdf, this will then export this to a .th2 file, > where I guess it will appear with all the lines you

Re: [Therion] How to add 1.5 x linefeed to a text string

> I’m wondering if there is a way to add a 1.5x linefeed to text > strings in Therion? Not sure if there is a proper way, but you can just put tex into the text input in xtherion, right? If so, you could try foo \thtinysize \thnormalsize bar That's quite hacky though ;)

Re: [Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

> There are lots of features that will cross those walls, so I will be > making extensive use of "-clip off". That is entirely up to where you draw your invisible walls. I would try not to allow them to go through any area fills, but you can join feature lines too, so either clip off, or two

Re: [Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

Hi Bill, > Hello everyone - I am having a problem getting Therion to understand how > to join several scraps to make a large room. The best advice; never begin or end a survey at a junction! Always survey through the junction in one surveying trip, so that one survey "owns" the entire junction

Re: [Therion] Statistics on surveys of a network

On 10/05/2023 10:00, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion wrote: >> Thanks for the answers. I wrote a python script. It is far from being >> elegant but it does the job. I attach it to this message in case it can be >> helpful to some of you. > > Very nice! > Thanks f

Re: [Therion] Statistics on surveys of a network

> Thanks for the answers. I wrote a python script. It is far from being elegant > but it does the job. I attach it to this message in case it can be helpful to > some of you. Very nice! Thanks for sharing. ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk

Re: [Therion] finding coordinates of specific station

Hi Ofir, > can I find the coordinates of a specific station? > for example: > having a survey with 10 stations, > station 6 has "fix" coordinates, and is the only station with > known coordinates. > i want to find the coordinates for station 2 & 8. > how? 1. Export a survex .3d file. Open it in

Re: [Therion] Statistics on surveys of a network

Hi Philippe, > Is there a way to export the statistics of a network with the following > information: > -date of each surveys, > -names of the team members for each survey > -length surveyed for each survey export cave-list -surveys on -location on -o cavelist.html export survey-list -o

Re: [Therion] Re : 3 Map-connection issue - effect of map-level

Hi David > Thks a lot for your answer that seems to confirm thé bug, i saw thé same > Behavior as Bruce discribed with acuracy in my project. > I will remove thé connection point on thé faulty level replaced by an > arrow line. Less clean but more logical. As I said in my previous emails (our

Re: [Therion] Remove little text in global export & offseted map

Hi David, > My survey is quite huge and I need to export different scales > In the biggest I would like to remove all little object and particularly > text from the export to make it more understandable. Yes, but also no: https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/templates#setup_a_default_standard_layout

Re: [Therion] convert excel to therion

> i was thinking - maybe someone has some script that does this conversion? Possibly there is, but there is not really a need to do so for simple data sets: 1. in Excel, save-as "Text (tab-delimited) (*.txt)", call it foo.th 2. edit it in a text editor 3. add this at the start: survey foo

Re: [Therion] convert excel to therion

Step 1 would be to get the data out of Excel and into a text-based format. Axel suggests copy & paste, which works very well. Alternatively, in Excel, use "Save as" to save it as a CSV file. Then open the CSV file in a text editor that has a find-&-replace function, and replace all commas with

Re: [Therion] Therion not overwriting existing PDFs

Hi Rodrigo, > Is it a recent bug or some incompatibility with Fedora 37? I have seen this before *on Windows* when: 1. The PDF is locked by a PDF viewer like Acrobat. 2. The .xtherion.dat file is read-only or hidden. That second one is a real gotcha when copying from a Linux system. Are you

Re: [Therion] Custom map connections

> My arrows have multiple colours. I will share the CC0 code later once I > am back in front of my computer. Attached. (Hope the list lets it through.) To use it, you need to set this: symbol-assign line map-connection MY Yes, that is the *line* not the point, because Therion turns each point

Re: [Therion] Custom map connections

around it?   cheers, Axel     from the mailing-list: ---  Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion Thu, 07 Jul 2022 10:04:09 -0700 Hi folks, I have a challenge, presented to me by some users of one of our surveys. We have a cave with layers horribly stacked above each other (10 passages all

Re: [Therion] sd for a vertical pole

> In Therion, this generates an error "invalid quantity -- plumb". > > sd length 0.001 metres > sd plumb 0.125 degrees > gps surveystart 2.000 - DOWN I wrote a bunch of tests. Therion is missing the required "sd plumb" functionality, and has no equivalent. I have filed this as:

Re: [Therion] sd for a vertical pole

> I guess this could just as easily be a Survex question as a Therion > question. Actually, it's not. In Survex terminology, it would be done like this: *sd length 0.001 metres *sd plumb 0.125 degrees gps surveystart 2.000 - DOWN That is how you are supposed to do a vertical leg with variable

[Therion] sd for a vertical pole

Hi folks, I guess this could just as easily be a Survex question as a Therion question. I have GPS readings taken on a pole, with the position being given for the top of the pole. Subsequent Disto readings are taken from the bottom of the pole. The pole is brought to vertical using a spirit

Re: [Therion] Radiolocation Fixed Points

On 25/08/2022 20:16, Tarquin Wilton-Jones--- via Therion wrote: >> I am only suggesting removing one of the radiolocation points because >> your siphon survey sounds like it's fairly accurate, and as tarquin says >> not likely to be causing the error. I would

Re: [Therion] Radiolocation Fixed Points

> I am only suggesting removing one of the radiolocation points because > your siphon survey sounds like it's fairly accurate, and as tarquin says > not likely to be causing the error. I would think the accuracy of the > radiolocation could be the weak link, but i'm no expert with radiolocation.

Re: [Therion] Radiolocation Fixed Points

> Therion in general seems to work at the 1 cm level when exporting > certain formats, but I think (someone correct me if I am wrong) that > internally, it works on much higher resolution, and therefore can work > even with tiny legs. I tested this, and can confirm that Therion can indeed work at

Re: [Therion] Radiolocation Fixed Points

Hi Daniel, > There are many many stations saved automatically with the device. > > We fixed two points determined by radiolocation, one at the beginning of > the siphon and another at the end. Interesting. How are you fixing only the easting and northing, without fixing the altitude? (Or are

Re: [Therion] Loop in survey, how to split the extended view on a specific station ?

Hi Gilbert, > Therion split automatically the extended survey (we can see it on the > xvi file), but, can we tell the software in which point we want to split > the survey ? > > can you change the split point ? where ? I wrote an article about this specific problem here:

Re: [Therion] Label and passage height colours

On 01/08/2022 22:07, Paul Rowe wrote: > Ok, I'll have a go at the metapost route. MetaPost for label type things is really inconvenient to work with, so you might want to use my code to create stylable text labels for a custom point. It just hooks into the existing label code, so it can create

Re: [Therion] Drawing lines with graphic tablet

> I was wondering if it would it be possible (and easy) to add a new line > type that is more similar to Illustrator's pencil tool? Sorry, I do not know about whether you can draw lines like that in XTherion. However, you can in TopoDroid. It creates lines with loads of line points, and no Bezier

Re: [Therion] Map-connection issue

> Clutching at straws - I wonder if it because I define lowest level maps > outside of the survey they are associated with? Well, that is definitely different from me. Every survey contains its own maps of its scraps. survey foo -title "day 1 at the swamp" map fooMP -projection plan

Re: [Therion] Map-connection issue

> I think Tarquin’s explanation and approach, > https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/mapconnectors, like the Therion Book > example only goes two levels deep, ie offset of offset. > > I have attempted to go three levels, offset of offset of offset, and the > map-connections that worked for two level

Re: [Therion] Custom map connections

Hi Philippe and Bruce, > Can’t you just define some map in grey and some in colors depending on the > scrap and the connection ? A nice thought, but sadly not. A single scrap might have 2 or 3 different connection arrows going from it, and there is no way to distinguish between those from the

Re: [Therion] Transparency and connection issue

Hi David, and welcome to the mailing list! >     thfill p withcolor (0.96, 0.82, 0.55); Since Therion 6.0: thfill p withcolor (0.96, 0.82, 0.55) withalpha 0.5; In earlier versions you need to use withtransparentcolor instead. > Any ideas to  maintain local connexion dotted line where they were

[Therion] Custom map connections

Hi folks, I have a challenge, presented to me by some users of one of our surveys. We have a cave with layers horribly stacked above each other (10 passages all crossing the same point!). Simple solution; use map offsets to put them all side by side. Use map connection arrows to show what

[Therion] Problems with labels and scaling

Hi folks, I assume someone has already found out about these, but I could not find anything, so I have reported them as bugs. The first one is causing me issues. Does anyone know a workaround for it? 1. Labels get weird debugging numbers inserted before them if the ratio of base-scale to scale

Re: [Therion] Point altitude/deph, Help !

On 28/06/2022 10:04, Philippe Vernant wrote: > Hi guys, > > I’m digging this topic since I’m running in a similar issue. Would that > be possible to have for the points with the option “altitude" something > like : > 640 [-30], where 640 would be the altitude and -30 the depth ? You could use

Re: [Therion] The purpose of \thfb

Why do I always do this to myself? Send a mail, then work out the answer... > But I have no idea why that works, and was hoping someone could explain > to me: > 1. What is \thfb ? thTMPDIR\th_enc.tex \def\mainfont{\thfb} It is telling it to use TeX's "mainfont". There are also some others

[Therion] The purpose of \thfb

Hi folks, A question relating to TEX. Previously, I used to use this: thTEX("\thframed {" & textsize & plaintext & "}") Where textsize was something like \thnormalsize This worked until recently. But now (Therion 6?) it returns nothing. After some trial and error (and looking through the -d

Re: [Therion] new Therion 6.1.0

> Properties -> Compatibility -> Change high DPI settings > And then selecting High DPI scaling override, scaling performed by > application. Aww yisss! Thank you, that is so much nicer. ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk

Re: [Therion] new Therion 6.1.0

On 20/06/2022 21:01, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > Hi, this should be fixed in the latest snapshot - upgrading wxWidgets > from 3.0 to 3.1 seems to solve the problem. > > Could you please try and confirm whether this fix works for you? Verified fixed. Windows 10, Loch 6.1.0+682fcb3 msys2 #376. Nice

Re: [Therion] new Therion 6.1.0

On 20/06/2022 16:48, Benoit Martinez wrote: > Same here with the standard installer on the release page, on Windows 11 Nearly a month after the release and nobody mentioned it yet o_O I don't know what this says about all of us :D Something about who is on vacation, the number of Windows Therion

Re: [Therion] new Therion 6.1.0

On 27/05/2022 18:00, Therion via Therion wrote: > Hi, there is a new release 6.1.0 of Therion. > Check https://github.com/therion/therion/releases/tag/v6.1.0 for more details. Just got around to updating, using the standard "Windows installer" on the Therion download page. In this release, I have

Re: [Therion] Is copying supposed to be done in reverse?

On 20/06/2022 10:19, Bruce Mutton wrote: > Ha! It was the great Tarquin who provided me with insight one year ago > https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg08109.html "I have no memory of this place" Gandalf But yes, what I am seeing now conflicts with what I wrote then. So something

Re: [Therion] Is copying supposed to be done in reverse?

> As far as I am aware, the last called layout or statement always wins. > Certainly since I started using the recipe I have not noticed any > problems, and my layouts occasionally have conflicting parameters for a > particular setting (which is why I originally had problems – I was not > rigorous

[Therion] Is copying supposed to be done in reverse?

Hi folks, I stumbled on something odd about the "copy" command, which is used in a "layout". Normally, commands in a layout are interpreted in sequence, so if you hide something with one command, then show it with a subsequent command, it will use the second one, and show it: symbol-hide point

Re: [Therion] New default settings and recent proj changes

> That all makes sense now.  Strange how my Windows search could not find > the folder even though I was explicitly searching for it. It normally ignores AppData and other hidden folders unless you are already within that folder. It knows better than you, mkay.

Re: [Therion] Updated XTherion editor side panel adjustment

On 28/02/2022 01:12, Bruce Mutton wrote: > I expect there may be a variable I > could edit in XTherion.ini (or is  XTherion.new.ini, there seems to be > one of each) that will increase the snapping distance. It does not appear to be a snapping distance, per se. It appears to snap to the points

Re: [Therion] new Therion 6.0.5

"added support for cave volume calculation (Tools → Survey statistics)"Awesome addition.Could someone maybe explain what the difference is between 3D and LRUD envelope?I get how 3D probably works based on the rendered 3D view of the cave.  But how can the LRUD thing work when I only use splays

Re: [Therion] Fwd: Re: How to calculate the volume of a cave

> In this case the cave is very small, only 50 meters, and there are only 14 > survey stations. Retyping it into a Compass data file did not take long. > > Compass and MeshLab do very different calculations to come up with volume. > For my cave Compass gives about 2900 cubic feet and MeshLab

[Therion] Hide symbols within certain maps/subsurveys

Hi folks, I have a survey of a cave and its surrounding surface area, including all the little caves in the area. So you can basically get an overview of the area, see the surface streams and sinks. Normally, I want the cave survey to be on its own, showing the cave's features, passage names,

Re: [Therion] Handling of tape and backtape in survey data

On 27/12/2021 19:15, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > > >> 26. 12. 2021 v 19:32, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion >> mailto:therion@speleo.sk>>: >> >> However, for Disto >> surveying, it feels largely unnecessary, as the accuracy is already a >>

Re: [Therion] Handling of tape and backtape in survey data

> when I do I always do a full reading A splay is useful only for immediate error checking on the data gathering device (magnetic or calibration), but cannot be used for automatic error correction unless the app can do it for you (like SexyTopo can, but only for opposing splays, not for opposing

Re: [Therion] Get shortest route

> I implemented such functionality (not the visualization) a while ago > as a little exercise in Python. If you know how to run a Python > script, then you might find this useful. Awesome! I would love for that to be built in to Aven, so it could actually highlight the route too (you know the

Re: [Therion] Cutting off a grid

On 24/11/2021 10:49, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion wrote: > Hi, > > We have a vertical cave that is just over 100 metres deep, with its > entrance just below a 100 metre contour. > > We want to show a grid on the elevation view, like this: > > #show an altitude grid

[Therion] Cutting off a grid

Hi, We have a vertical cave that is just over 100 metres deep, with its entrance just below a 100 metre contour. We want to show a grid on the elevation view, like this: #show an altitude grid every 25 metres #("50 50" affects only plan view, so is ignored here) grid bottom

Re: [Therion] thfill with page background colour?

On 23/11/2021 20:35, Martin Budaj wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 4:34 PM Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion > wrote: >> >>> In which variable do i access the page's background color (the one set >>> wit the layout option "map-bg")? >> >> Fun fa

Re: [Therion] thfill with page background colour?

> In which variable do i access the page's background color (the one set > wit the layout option "map-bg")? Fun fact ... you can't access that. Or at least, it didn't seem to be available back when I was trying to do that in version 5. And I still can't see any useful variable in version 6.

Re: [Therion] Rock border not creating boulders with smooth altitude shading

> I'm with you Tarquin. > See my other message (some reason it has not turned up in > https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/) > Seems like it is intentional, but it is more complicated than that. > This page describes >

[Therion] Rock border not creating boulders with smooth altitude shading

Hi folks, I feel like I must have missed some email about this; surely someone will have noticed before... Boulders. They are made from line rock-border, which will create a shaded boulder when closed. Make an area of water. Create a line rock-border half-way into the water, and half out of the

[Therion] Depth adds on surface if it is in a different sub-survey

Hi folks, Ages ago, I filed https://github.com/therion/therion/issues/165 and Stacho fixed it (thanks!). We have just stumbled on another variant of it in a survey where both surface and the cave are rendered in a map (a few slopes on the surface), but the surface comes from a different

Re: [Therion] Minimum symbol scale

> I know that I suggested one format below, but thinking about it more, > this might be better: > min-symbol-scale [ ] > > That means no fussing around with the parameter ordering. But it is then > inconsistent with symbol-colour. I have run into this one again, and really need this

Re: [Therion] Weird handling of directions

> If someone wants to help debug this, you can do conversion from grid to > lat/long using Helmert here (note, use SH 0.00 0.00 > format with several decimal places to avoid it using the middle of a > grid square): > http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/php/gridref.php ARGH! I should

[Therion] Weird handling of directions

Hi folks, Technical problem. Perhaps something to do with PROJ. Perhaps I have my declinations backwards? survey testdirection -title "Test direction" centreline date 2021.08.13 cs OSGB:ST #change this to test other grid squares fix startst 0.00 0.00 0.00 station

Re: [Therion] Ariane's line - Underwater cave survey device

> It's called "Ariane's line", you can find more details on this website: > arianesline.com MNemo is the main piece of kit. Looks like it is a device you clip onto your dive line. As you swim, it counts how much line it has been pulled along. It records compass, length

Re: [Therion] cannot load thconfig in xtherion

On 23/08/2021 09:29, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > BTW, using for project “foo" name “foo.thconfig" is not a bad idea. Indeed. It makes your code more portable, since Windows doesn't show a "what do you want me to do with this 'thconfig.[nothing]' file that has no mimetype data?" dialog. Grr.

Re: [Therion] 3D viewer CaveView

On 31/07/2021 09:43, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > OpenSource 3D viewer for Therion, Survex and Compass 3D models, where > you may view your remote files (Settings/File). Stunning! I don't have a big enough data set to see how well it performs with big systems, but it works great with my

Re: [Therion] Minimum symbol scale

On 28/06/2021 20:33, Bruce Mutton wrote: > Yes, I wouldn't mind some more refinement. > Here are my comments from a while back (some of which may have been resolved > since). > [Therion] min-symbol-scale and fonts-setup > https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg06651.html This looks

[Therion] Minimum symbol scale

Hi folks, There is a setting: min-symbol-scale M That allows you to hide all symbols of S or XS scale. That's useful when you want to show only the most important symbols in a low resolution survey. But is there a way to control this differently only for certain symbols? Eg. I want to be able

Re: [Therion] How to morph sketches

On 28/06/2021 09:58, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > 28. 6. 2021 v 10:17, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>>: >> >> Ah yes, doing it as separate scraps is a lot less messy. Though in the >> end you then probably have to keep using multip

Re: [Therion] How to morph sketches

> You are right. It could be very useful in simple passages. But in your > case I’ll divide sketch to three pieces first and try to use “extra” > points when LRUD are available. Ah yes, doing it as separate scraps is a lot less messy. Though in the end you then probably have to keep using

Re: [Therion] How to morph sketches

Hi Torsten, > As I read some of the last mails I came to the question how to morph a > sketch. You don't. > All I found was on page 89 ff in the book which shows some pictures > before and after morphing. Clarification; that appears to be page 94 of this:

Re: [Therion] xtherion - Multiple background sketches

> Doing a join on room sketches like this is probably not possible. Well, it is. But it will be a bit of work. You draw scraps with invisible walls (or any other line with -outline out) as their edges where there is no real wall. Personally, I would use a border with "-outline out -visibility

Re: [Therion] Two extended profiles for same survey

> Full description on the wiki https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/extend > The second option that Tarquin describes is set out towards the bottom of > that page. Pretty sure the answer is "no", but... Can you do this in a thconfig: source "cave.th" source "extend1.th" where cave.th contains the

Re: [Therion] Two extended profiles for same survey

> Is it possible to work around this problem? Yes but no. This is why Bruce (?) recommends keeping your "extend" directives in a totally separate document. You can have survey/subsurvey/subsurvey.th survey/subsurvey/extendv1.th survey/subsurvey/extendv2.th and in subsurvey.th you use: input

Re: [Therion] Main route through a cave

> (I would love to understand why arclength / width gives eg. 5, but it > will actually have enough space for 5 dots and 5 gaps, which should be > 10 times the width, not 5. Is arclength half the actual length?) Because "PenA scaled" is a multiplication factor, not an actual size. And pen sizes

Re: [Therion] Main route through a cave

> So I am playing with a purple dashed line (thanks Axel!) and it looks > almost great. Almost. I would like it more if I could make it > translucent, but I think "withtransparentcolor" only works for fills. > For lines, it seems to act like a regular withcolor. Is there a way to > draw

Re: [Therion] Main route through a cave

On 13/06/2021 12:17, Axel wrote: > an additional thought just occoured to me: > If u draw a mainroute-line wouldn't it be possible for the coding-gurus > to get the length and maybe the altitude difference of that line type? I would have thought the easier way would be a "flags" switch that could

Re: [Therion] Main route through a cave

> Have not solved the problem yet Well at least I am not alone. But that's a shame in this case ;) A problem shared is a problem where everyone is scratching their heads. > Where there are multiple levels it is relatively easy just by having a map > per level and offsetting them. Absolutely.

Re: [Therion] Main route through a cave

the side passages, so an extract of just the main route could be published.No idea how hard this is to do in practice.Andrew-- Sent with K-9 MailOn 13 June 2021 08:49:44 BST, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion wrote:>Hi folks,>>I am surveying a cave that could be best described as an

[Therion] Main route through a cave

Hi folks, I am surveying a cave that could be best described as an insanity of hidden routes. When you go through the cave, it feels easy. You follow the obvious route. When drawing up the survey, there are loads of alternative routes all crossing over each other and hiding underneath the

Re: [Therion] Atlas

On 26/05/2021 21:05, Philippe Vernant wrote: > Thanks Stacho for the example. If I understand correctly it means that > for an atlas I cannot keep the option "color map-fg map” and get the > maps on the same page with color coding for each map. It is either all > the maps but the same color with

Re: [Therion] Need help producing scraps.kml without white blobs

Hi Michael, > but I'm happy to provide the complete data to anyone who is willing to > dive into this problem. Certainly I would be happy to help dissecting a survey to work out what's going wrong. So do share if you are comfortable doing so. One thing I immediately notice with your survey is

Re: [Therion] Join 3 scraps from different maps

> Instead of joining first the 2 lines of the scrap1.1 and scrap1.2 from > map1 in th-file1 and then join the 2 lines from scrap1.2 and scrap2.1 in > the main-th-file I just joined the 3 lines in the main-th file. A quick quote from the Therion book: " When joining more than two points or lines,

Re: [Therion] Join 3 scraps from different maps

> In one of those subfolders I joined 2 scraps in a map, all good. Now I > need to join at this position another scrap from a different subfolder "at this position" You cannot join 3 scraps at the same place using automatic scrap joins, since there is no "open end" for it to join the third scrap

Re: [Therion] Strange Therion/survex disparity in altitudes

Hi Alastair, > Survex: http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/Andara/Tresviso/ Fun that you choose to use a different file/folder structure for the two versions. Makes them a little awkward to compare ;) Fixes inline in one, and in a global file in the other... > On the .3d file generated from therion

Re: [Therion] 3D model height

> If there is a real need for a switch between converting and not > converting the heights, let us know. At least here in the UK, a lot of rough and ready surveys seem to use Garmin handheld GPS units like the 66sr. These use barometric altitude, which you calibrate to a local benchmark. That

Re: [Therion] Removing the lines between survey stations created for surface features

Hi David, > Does anyone know how to remove the lines that appear between survey > stations used for surveying around surface features? symbol-hide group surface-centreline This also hides the stations. If you want those, you need to put them back: symbol-show point station And then you can

Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected

> Tarquin, did you know, there is a "-walls off" option for scrap? Very neat :) I will certainly use that. It does limit you though, to only being able to hardcode it into the scrap. You could not prepare two different versions of the .lox by selecting the relevant maps (plan and extended

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