Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki starting time is sooooo slow

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Florian, Add a Splash screen to startup if not already and consider the larger part of the load time could be the final render, depending on what is visible at startup. Minimise the tiddlers opened, hide the sidebar and more. Test a load with minimal opening and no features and unusual plugins

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
All, WordPress permits OAuth and the standard login process logs the browser in so I believe login once and at least that browser will have access until logout, or time out. Open ID allows you to login with a WordPress, WordPress.com account, Google, Facebook etc... It is WordPRess that has

[tw5] Re: Getting from a non-linear notebook to something a little more linear

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Cade, My approach would be to hide the default new tiddler button, provide an alternate one that appears in context or use the new here button and install the table of contents in the side bar. In addition to this try and enforce a way to categorise any tiddler with tags or fields (New

Re: [tw5] Re: input fields

2019-12-06 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 7:50:58 PM UTC-8, PWL wrote: > > PERFECT! exactly what I was looking to do Thank you! > > Maybe there is one last think you can help me with? My index page > displays as one long list that scrolls on forever. I'd like it to display > in columns, is that

[tw5] Work done with TW

2019-12-06 Thread A Gloom
Can't put the actual working wiki up till I remove the personal content in it (it's for family and very much a memorial work that we're not going to commercialize or publish other the very original story which has been online for a few years now) but can show some screenshots of how I applied

[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
If you have bobsaver plugin installed in a TW file, and then load that file via TiddlyServer, it will ask/warn you every time you save that the Bob server is not running. Even though Bob Server was not running when the TW file was loaded. And it keeps reminding each time. Makes me wonder if

Re: [tw5] Re: A client-side datafolder - Working Prototype

2019-12-06 Thread A Gloom
A little bit beyond me but from what I can understand, it sounds very promising -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Mark Some thoughts With two parents in genealogy it is recognised there is a patralinial and matralinial tree and when exploring relationships one chooses which tree to follow with, towards ancestors or descendants. In either case or when wanting to investigate both trees it is wise to limit

[tw5] Re: Lego Kit: for MATHEMATICIANS? Thoughts?

2019-12-06 Thread A Gloom
All of these tools being revealed here are amazing work -- and this thread is a good way to collect them and make them easy to find -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
On table overflow, There are a number of methods to cause table overflow to turn into sliders so you can scroll left right and updown. I think given tiddlywikis zoom features, closable sidebar, full screen mode and "fluid story, fixed side bar" the tiddler is a reasonable constraint. The Muuri

[tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin 2.0.0 beta 11: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Hi Scott, That is my fault! During submitting to GitHub I missed some CSS tiddlers. I will push a new update and address this! It seems all of CSS on Shiraz setting tab are missing. Thank you for reporting this issue. --Mohammad On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 3:49:14 AM UTC+3:30, Scott

Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki starting time is sooooo slow

2019-12-06 Thread Arlen Beiler
I just realized he was timing the runtime of the --version flag, which would literally load only the core plugin and nothing else. So that's almost 90 seconds to just load the core. On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 9:29 PM TonyM wrote: > Florian, > > Add a Splash screen to startup if not already and

[tw5] Re: Multiple sort order in Tiddlywiki

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
I do not mean to sound competitive, but all you need is .nested lists <$list fiter="[all[tiddlers]each[state]get[state]sort[]]" variable=state> <$list fiter="[all[tiddlers]stateeach[region]get[region]sort[]]" variable=region> <$list fiter="[all[tiddlers]stateregionsort[]]">

[tw5] Re: TiddlyMaps Ninja Request

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Q You may need to post if you have not received any responses. People are not so keen on starting private conversations when the community can help in a public one. Regards Tony On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 7:28:42 PM UTC+11, Qalisto wrote: > > If there is anyone out there who really

Re: [tw5] Re: input fields

2019-12-06 Thread Patrick L.
unfortunately that didn't work either. Who knew adding an input field into a tiddler would be so difficult. So you've seen the code I have here is a screencap of what I have now. The search works fine, like I said, I just would rather enter the search criteria right beside the drop down instead

[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I just realized that the problem is NOT occurring with the older, 0.0.4 plugin. On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 2:35:07 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > > > > If you have bobsaver plugin installed in a TW file, and then load that > file via TiddlyServer, it will ask/warn you every time you save that

[tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin 2.0.0 beta 11: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Damon Pritchett
One more question. I would like the table text to be smaller than default. How would I specify that in the tblClass area? Asked another way, what CSS classes could I use to control other aspects of the dynamic tables? Thanks, Damon On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-7, Mohammad

[tw5] Re: Browser Usage: How to Measure to the TW5 Itself / Increase RAM?

2019-12-06 Thread A Gloom
PMario always has good answers so it's good he replied my input (not expert advice but may steer in a right direction)... using FF Task Manager (about:performance) I get 6 processes 3 tabs, 3 add-ons (it doesn't provide PID's like Chrome does) in Windows Task Manager>Details, I get 8 Firefox

[tw5] Re: Google Group Tags... Notes on utility & moderation?

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
I will just restate what I said in the Other thread about pins modified to Google Tags Bit of a storm in a tea cup As far as I can see this has being the extent of GGTAGS in the last year or more so, with respect, I suggest education before restricting or dictating. This is only my opinion

Re: [tw5] Re: input fields

2019-12-06 Thread Patrick L.
PERFECT! exactly what I was looking to do Thank you! Maybe there is one last think you can help me with? My index page displays as one long list that scrolls on forever. I'd like it to display in columns, is that possible without having to build a table? On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 8:52 PM Eric

[tw5] Multiple sort order in Tiddlywiki

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Assume you have a bunch of tiddlers - all tagged with data - all have three fields fa, fb, fc How one can produce a list of tiddlers where they are - sorted first by fa - then by field fb - then by field fc This means to keep the multiple sort order! --Mohammad -- You

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Mark, I think one parent is simpler to understand and follow and more usable in Tiddlywiki than two parents! As you said the parser needs to support inheritance if not I have to go with macros! @TonyM I will have a look at kin plugin by bimlas! At the announce time I found it rather

[tw5] Re: TiddlyClip latest?

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Version 0.1.2 ? h -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit

[tw5] Re: How to create multiple entries in a data tiddler?

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Joshua, if one maintains the last item number elsewhere retrieve it and increment/save its perhaps more efficent. Of course this action needs a trigger so I have placed it at the beginning of a button that creates the new item. Another trick is I have used this method to generate a tiddler

[tw5] Re: Unlikely the Last word in saving - Single File Wikis for Newbies - First Encounter

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Folks, With such diverse views and threads it is hard to run arguments for and against all the information rich approaches; Here are some ideas that are prominent in my mind; Minimalist local application - What is we had one universal application that can be installed on all Operating

[tw5] Re: SimpleNavigation

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Magnus, I am a little unsure of you having fields for *parent*-field and *relation*-field. My Parent is my child's grandparent, my grandchild's great grandparent. The only information is who is my parent then you can follow the story. The Kin Operator by Bimlas can help as can the TOCP

Re: [tw5] bibtex plugin

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Pit, Can you copy the result of the bib text (not the text itself) and or paste it into a simple notepad to remove special characters copy and paste that into tiddlywiki to remove special characters? Regards Tony On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 10:14:53 PM UTC+11, Sεяεηδι ριτ wrote: > > Hi

[tw5] Re: How to link to images and audio files on Android

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Perhaps you need to give Tiddloid lite file access. See what permissions the app wants or assign more in the phone. On Saturday, November 9, 2019 at 2:14:11 PM UTC+11, Raymond McDowell wrote: > > Can anyone advise: On Android with TiddloidLite, how can I link to > external image and audio

[tw5] Re: Browser Usage: How to Measure to the TW5 Itself / Increase RAM?

2019-12-06 Thread Qalisto
Aha! Thank you sir. === > Q < === On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 11:23:51 AM UTC, PMario wrote: > > Hi, > > - Open a new tab and type: > - about:memory > - Click the "measure" button. > - CTRL-F find: https://tiddlywiki.com > - Every tab has 1

Re: [tw5] Re: A client-side datafolder - Working Prototype

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Arlen, It seems extremely promising. Do I understand the PHP version would still need a node to load? Do I understand then the PHP would serve as the host/database and the Node loaded wiki would then save back to it? If so I would be keen to build in a checkout method if its not

[tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin 2.0.0 beta 11: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Hi Damon, I started a new thread https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/OHKFJ9eURC0/JwlHbRVEAgAJ to see how multiple sort can be done in Tiddlywiki! If I got a workable answer I will look in possible implementation! --Mohammad On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 1:54:45 AM UTC+3:30, Damon

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Mohammad, I understands its complexity comes from its power, test it against a copy of tiddlywiki.com and using items in the toc, The Kin operator is like a toc only it returns the list of descendants and or ancestors as a list from a filter. Where it gets powerful is you can exclude one kin

[tw5] Re: Multiple sort order in Tiddlywiki

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
There are different approaches. The easiest would be to make a button that, when pressed, populates a fourth field that can then be sorted. Here's an approach that doesn't require two steps, but it does assume that "@@" is reserved: \define sortus() <$vars lb="[[" rb="]]"> <$list

Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki starting time is sooooo slow

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
that would mean something is broken then? On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 2:48:57 PM UTC+11, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > I just realized he was timing the runtime of the --version flag, which > would literally load only the core plugin and nothing else. So that's > almost 90 seconds to just load

[tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin 2.0.0 beta 11: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Scott Kingery
Hi Mohammad, I think your new version broke the Colorful UI Buttons feature. I was running Revision 2.0.0 beta 7 and it was working there. Scott On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 10:44:42 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote: > > *Announcement:Shiraz plugin* > *Date: Dec 6th, 2019* > *Release: 2.0.0 beta

Re: [tw5] Re: input fields

2019-12-06 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 2:39:53 PM UTC-8, PWL wrote: > > unfortunately that didn't work either. Who knew adding an input field > into a tiddler would be so difficult. So you've seen the code I have here > is a screencap of what I have now. The search works fine, like I said, I > just

[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Eric, Please unpin now I cant "Sad Face" Tony On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:37:51 AM UTC+11, Eric Shulman wrote: > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:46:35 AM UTC-8, TonyM wrote: >> >> Folks >> >> Just to let you all know I will unpin this conversation soon after I >> extract a summary

[tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin 2.0.0 beta 11: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 2:59:56 AM UTC+3:30, Damon Pritchett wrote: > > One more question. I would like the table text to be smaller than default. > How would I specify that in the tblClass area? Asked another way, what CSS > classes could I use to control other aspects of the dynamic

[tw5] Re: Google Group Tags... Notes on utility & moderation?

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I could be wrong, but it looks like the feature has already been turned off. I did feel that the original list of tags was too broad. On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 4:55:32 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > In another thread ... > > Jeremy Ruston wrote: >> >> * Pinning should never have been

[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Bit of a storm in a tea cup I had never pinned anything before. Found I could and assumed it was private. Two other pins occurred then I found out it was public and started a pin exit plan. As far as I can see this has being the extent of pins in the last year or more so, with respect, I

[tw5] Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Alan Aldrich in his plugin TiddlyTables used transclusion to make sophisticated stylesheet and this shows the beauty of TW. TiddlyTables has a lot to be learned as a modern application of Tiddlywiki. Hope developer, admins and TW decision makers pay more attention to this great piece of work.

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Hi HC Haase, In the example given in the demo page there are several example works fine! Look here: https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables I think the problem is with transclusion! Could you kindly paste the text of second tiddler here! --Mohammad -- You received this

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread HC Haase
fredag den 6. december 2019 kl. 11.00.00 UTC+1 skrev Mohammad: > > Hi HC Haase, > In the example given in the demo page there are several example works fine! > Look here: https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables > > I think the problem is with transclusion! > Could you kindly

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
I confirm the bug! It is a problem with transclusion! If you use {{!!title}} or any other filed transclusion through {{!!}} this problem occurred! Thank you for report! I will soon submit a new update! --Mohammad On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 1:13:18 PM UTC+3:30, HC Haase wrote: > > Very

Re: [tw5] Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread Jeremy Ruston
A couple of thoughts: * Pinning should never have been globally available. I appreciate the argument that no great harm was done, but it evidently created confusion as to who could see that a thread had been pinned * We should agree on general rules for what threads might qualify for being

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Another interesting sync adaptor would be one that retrieved and stored tiddlers via the Wordpress API. The attraction is that WordPress hosting is highly commoditised, being readily available and cheap. It should be possible to store tiddlers as “Pages”, and to inherit WordPress’s very smooth

[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Hi Tony! You are totally right! restricting people without explaining them and educating in advance never come to a better result! Also during the period members were allowed to pin, I noted few items wrongly pinned! These could be solved by ADMINS first by sending a short explanation

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Jeremy, we could make use of the sql database that is build to support word press. However as you say using the api would be more sophisticated. I have played with building custom post types and would be interested in creating a tiddler post type. We could also support plugins as JSON

[tw5] Re: Browser Usage: How to Measure to the TW5 Itself / Increase RAM?

2019-12-06 Thread PMario
Hi, - Open a new tab and type: - about:memory - Click the "measure" button. - CTRL-F find: https://tiddlywiki.com - Every tab has 1 "info page" have fun mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Bimlas I would love to enable contributions to tiddler content via got hub a bit like when you edit tiddlywiki.com but have the changes appear online. We could open our published editions to issues and changes. But your idea sounds even better. Regards Tony -- You received this message

[tw5] Browser Usage: How to Measure to the TW5 Itself / Increase RAM?

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
It is possible to give Firefox and chrome more internal head room. Both have 4gb on my 16gb machine because they do most of what I need since I am now more likely to build something in tw5 than use any other app. However it was hard to find the settings and I have misplaced my notes. My last

[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread Ste Wilson
The topic of pins seem to have pricked and needled some people, this is knit good, we must be able to stitch something together sew I'll stop as I've run out of puns. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this

[tw5] TiddlyWiki starting time is sooooo slow

2019-12-06 Thread Florian Cauvin
On my RaspberryPi 3 with Raspian and NodeJs: $ time tiddlywiki --version 5.1.21 real 1m2,309s user 1m2,727s sys 0m0,511s Once TiddlyWiki is "loaded" it works well and is responsive but >1 minute to start up? Is that normal??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[tw5] Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Mohammad Such a suggestion is already possible and I have done similar things. However I usually reserve the text field for notes and deliver the transclusions etc via the view template. I am not exadurating saying almost anything is possible in tiddlywiki, that is why it is my obsession.

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread PMario
Hi Mohamad, I think your example doesn't work, since the "inheritence" in this case won't hold. The "child" always needs its own last-name. eg: Let's say parent-1 and parent-2 are not married. The child will be transcluded into both parents and would therefore have 3 different last-names.

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread PMario
On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 12:39:50 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote: > > eg: Let's say parent-1 and parent-2 have different last-names. The child > will be transcluded into both parents and would therefore have 3 different > last-names. > Text edited in first post. -m -- You received this

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread PMario
Hi, There has been an idea to use e-mail accounts to store tiddlers using the IMAP format. e-mail hosting providers are reliable and cheep. You may even have an account combined with your smart phone contract, but probably not used. just a thought mario -- You received this message

Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki starting time is sooooo slow

2019-12-06 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Florian Do you have a large number of tiddlers in your wiki? The startup time under Node.js hasn’t had much optimisation attention, and I think there’s quite a lot of scope to improve things. Best wishes Jeremy. > On 6 Dec 2019, at 11:33, Florian Cauvin wrote: > > On my RaspberryPi 3

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread bimlas
Jeremy, TonyM, Another interesting sync adaptor would be one that *retrieved *and stored > tiddlers via the Wordpress API. I think the main problem with "database backends" (Google Sheets, Wordpress, PouchDB) is that by default they are not accessible as a web page, but everyone has to set

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao PMario & Mohammad TBH, I think it would be well worth having some concrete, fairly detailed, examples of this & different strategies. While the official docs are good, the more formal compact presentation doesn't always illustrate well. I'm very interested in tools and methods for

[tw5] Re: Browser Usage: How to Measure to the TW5 Itself / Increase RAM?

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
PMario, gave the place to go to get a start. It can be a little more complex than it first looks. Firefox can run with different "memory models". It depends somewhat on whether you are running multiple instances and how profiles launch too. I did a lot of messing about myself to try pin it

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
bimlas wrote: > > I think the main problem with "database backends" (Google Sheets, > Wordpress, PouchDB) is that by default they are not accessible as a web > page, but everyone has to set up credentials to read and edit the wiki. > > A workaround is to add new Personal Access Tokens to

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread bimlas
TiddlyTweeter, I think for wider apps the widely used system to login using existing > credentials (Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook etc) for authorisation is > easiest. > I don't see the whole process yet, but it might be feasible that when logging in with GitHub, the saver would create a

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread Arlen Beiler
WordPress (that's an interesting but very feasible suggestion), Google, and Github all support multi-user editing natively, so each user would have their own login credentials. On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 6:54 AM bimlas wrote: > Jeremy, TonyM, > > Another interesting sync adaptor would be one that

[tw5] Re: Google Group Tags... Notes on utility & moderation?

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
for those on email only ... --- In another thread ... Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > * Pinning should never have been globally available. I appreciate the > argument that no great harm was done, but it evidently created confusion as > to who could see that a thread had been pinned > * We should

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread bimlas
Arlen, WordPress (that's an interesting but very feasible suggestion), Google, and > Github all support multi-user editing natively, so each user would have > their own login credentials. > True, but we want to access the API with the saver, so we need a Personal Access Token. Or is it

Re: [tw5] Re: A client-side datafolder - Working Prototype

2019-12-06 Thread Arlen Beiler
A bag is a group of tiddlers. Currently each TiddlyWiki5 is one bag, for example. A recipe loads a list of bags in order with higher priority overriding lower priority. Saving works in a similar fashion. It's something from the TiddlyWiki classic days that newer users are probably not familiar

Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki starting time is sooooo slow

2019-12-06 Thread Florian Cauvin
Hi Jeremy, I have a few hundreds tiddlers, but I don't think that's a huge amount of content. Starting time is not a show stopper (as once it's up and running, TiddlyWiki server performs very well), but it is definitely an annoyance which introduce friction in my workflow because I maintain

Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki starting time is sooooo slow

2019-12-06 Thread Arlen Beiler
In my experience, there are two things which are the main startup bottlenecks. The first is that evalSandboxed (in boot.js) runs every module in a new context. If you change it to all of them using one separate context which you create outside the function, it should speed things up some. This

Re: [tw5] Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-12-06 Thread Arlen Beiler
All three of those sites have an OAuth flow setup for that. Basically you get redirected to the login page and then the login page returns a code back to the client page. Wordpress might just involve using the browser session, though, I’m not sure. On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 07:58 bimlas wrote: >

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mohammad wrote: > > Hi Alan, > TiddlyTables is quite powerful now but it needs more documentation and > example to simply be learned by new users. > Yes, the *focus loses* needs to be investigated and the best solution > introduced! > > I hope other users give their feedback! > As an end-user.

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mohammad At design level there has always been the problem of the WIDTH of tables. The issue goes back forever. Deriving CSS that matches wide end user needs is not easy. In TW one remaining issue I have not yet seen a good answer to is *HOW would you display well a table that is wider

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Alan, The rev 0.6.15 has a bug can be simply resolved. It is about transclusion a tiddler itself transcludes some of its fields. See HC Haase bug report here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/c4xVcquRsAc/dbndyp0IAgAJ I have addressed it by adding <$tiddler tiddler=<>

Re: [tw5] Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The change to the documentation system itself was only documented with a single line. Or maybe not even that. I don't know what it means to work on the documentation branch. Do I make a branch below the documentation branch, or call my own branch by that name? As far as I can tell, the

[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
You're keeping us on puns and noodles. Glad you took a stab at it. On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:32:43 AM UTC-8, Ste Wilson wrote: > > The topic of pins seem to have pricked and needled some people, this is > knit good, we must be able to stitch something together sew I'll stop as > I've run

Re: [tw5] Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mark > On 6 Dec 2019, at 14:48, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki > wrote: > > The change to the documentation system itself was only documented with a > single line. Or maybe not even that. I don't know what it means to work on > the documentation branch. Do I make a branch below the

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I think *{{!!field}} * causes no end of trouble once you start level two transclusion? It is more a matter of docs, rather than an issue per se? HOW do you transclude a field dynamically at several levels of transclusion? My query TT On Friday, 6 December 2019 11:07:40 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:

[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
In other words you will get the "snip" (anagram) TT Ste Wilson wrote: > > The topic of pins seem to have pricked and needled some people, this is > knit good, we must be able to stitch something together sew I'll stop as > I've run out of puns. :) -- You received this message because you are

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
You've kind of skipped to an advanced computer science topic -- two parent inheritance. C++ offers two-parent inheritance, but most modern systems, like Java don't. It's just too messy and complicated. In biological inheritance, nature tosses a coin and various features are selected from each

Re: [tw5] Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Ok, that's the single line, which is put at the top instead of into the step-by-step directions: If you already know GitHub , note that > documentation updates must be directed to the tiddlywiki-com branch > I don't know what it means by "directed to the

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > I think we probably want to stick with amoeba style inheritance, and > assume only one parent at a time. > I am not an amoeba, I am a human being. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud-eiDxeJj4 Inheritance from two parents--apart from being biologically sound--I found very

Re: [tw5] Pin Unpin Posts

2019-12-06 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mark > On 6 Dec 2019, at 15:14, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki > wrote: > > Ok, that's the single line, which is put at the top instead of into the > step-by-step directions: > > If you already know GitHub , note that > documentation updates must be directed to

[tw5] Re: TiddlyClip latest?

2019-12-06 Thread Birthe C
Tony, Maybe look at the extension version you are using. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Hi Josiah, The solution is to put the table inside a parent container and then use css to control and format table! For example if you have a table with many columns it will overflow horizontally! Look at the below example .container{ max-width: 90%; overflow-x:scroll; <$macrocall

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Yep, this is an issue as HC Haase reported. I have addresses this by using <$tiddler tiddler=... I will push a new update within nest 15 minutes --Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki starting time is sooooo slow

2019-12-06 Thread Florian Cauvin
Thanks Arlen for the suggestions: The first is that evalSandboxed (in boot.js) runs every module in a new > context. If you change it to all of them using one separate context which > you create outside the function, it should speed things up some. This one > may vary between node versions,

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Modeling kinship would not necessarily depend on the underlying software having features of multi-parent inheritance. You can have parent and child tiddlers, but their relationship would not be expressed via transclusion but via some other mechanism such as role fields, tags, etc. On Friday,

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Thank you all for your reply! 1. At first we need simple inheritance like making different styles for a div or table elements all inherited some features 2. There is one parent, grand parent and grand grand parent 3. We need to have children inherit properties from their parent BUT

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Getting from a non-linear notebook to something a little more linear

2019-12-06 Thread Cade Roux
This looks to have good potential to help with our users. Thanks for the input! Cade On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 12:00:33 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote: > > Hi Cade, > I have encountered the same problem before. There is a plugin help you > very much in this case and answer part of your

[tw5] Re: Lego Kit: for MATHEMATICIANS? Thoughts?

2019-12-06 Thread Diego Mesa
I sure do! I recommended it to all fellow student/researchers that I recommend TW to. On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 10:05:43 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Are any mathematicians using Evan Balster's Formula plugin? > > http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html > > It has some amazing

[tw5] Shiraz Plugin 2.0.0 beta 11: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
*Announcement:Shiraz plugin* *Date: Dec 6th, 2019* *Release: 2.0.0 beta 11* *Status: beta under development* A new beta update is available. Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/ Code: https://github.com/kookma/Shiraz Star it if you like it and send your feedback! Documentation proof reading

[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin 2.0.0 beta 10: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Mohammad
Hi HC Haase, I pushed a new update fixed two level nested transclusion. Please have a look at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bvFelwzPvIM/JWNW-ygmAgAJ Best regards Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw5] Re: How to create multiple entries in a data tiddler?

2019-12-06 Thread Joshua Fontany
Hey all! Awesome to see you experimenting with my tools. There was another use-case similar to thgis that I cam up with a very interesting trick for. Let me see if I can find it... https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/REBHwjgVALA/7L1gKQ8LBAAJ The below psuedo-example assumes you have my

[tw5] Re: How to create multiple entries in a data tiddler?

2019-12-06 Thread Joshua Fontany
Hahahah, You know I had to test that pseudo-example. Here's is the corrected version. Note that you have to filter the indexes[] result BY SUFFIX "/Title" to get the correct count. Makes sense now that I see it after debugging, lol. <$set name="newRoot" value={{{

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread TonyM
Parents beget children If you create children from a parent or parents you can ensure they inherit. Starting with their parents names. If you wish a child could have a field containg not a value but a treansluded text reference. Its value will thus be inherited. Replacing this reference with a

[tw5] Re: Lego Kit: for MATHEMATICIANS? Thoughts?

2019-12-06 Thread Ste Wilson
I've just discovered it and am just kind of spread sheeting it. http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/#Simple%20Frame%20Calculator Not done anything fancy with it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[tw5] Re: Tiddler Transclusion and Inheritance

2019-12-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Doing this where {{!!field}} returns the inherited value would probably require a rewrite of the parser. But you could do something like this with macros. Each tiddler would have a field, say lparent (for logical parent). You would invoke like <> The macro would look to see if there was a

[tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin 2.0.0 beta 11: Dynamic Tables

2019-12-06 Thread Damon Pritchett
Hi Mohammed, I love the dynamic tables feature! Thanks so much. I'm wondering if it would be possible to add an enhancement for sorting on multiple columns. Something like sort the first column and then hold the shift key (or something else) to sort by the second column. This would be very