I have a lot of stuff still in treepad (Business). I didn't get the notice
that they were shutting down. Now the site has been taken over by a
marijuana dispensary. Sad.
The problem with treepad that I realized right away was that it had no
community support. Apparently the developer had had
Hi Tony,
The download option only makes sense if the user chooses single HTML file
version, right? May be users - especially those coming from markdown based
note taking applications - might want to keep their notes in separate plain
text files.
Giving the download button and then explaining the
I do suggest TiddlyDesktop (TD) be highlighted in some way. There are
simply too many options to choose from for a new user.
For a user choosing single file, I would go so far as to say that there
should be only two options presented. One for local usage (TD), one for
online, with everything
How many find Tiddlywiki by Google search, and what are the search
word/words?
I have always thought people had read a positive article, a blog or
something. Had been evangelised irl or otherwise.
The many discussion concerning Roam Research I would imagine got many to
look for alternatives,
Hi Eric
Thank you for your response which was a great help. The only problem now is
that when I try a test JSON structured as suggested I get the following
error message
JSON error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 8
column 1 of the JSON data
That character is the closing
I found tiddlywiki searching for the following keywords:
"Open source cross platform alternatives to zim"
But that was years ago.
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 16:30 Birthe C, wrote:
> How many find Tiddlywiki by Google search, and what are the search
> word/words?
> I have always thought people had
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 9:13:56 AM UTC+2, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> I do suggest TiddlyDesktop (TD) be highlighted in some way. There are
> simply too many options to choose from for a new user.
> For a user choosing single file, I would go so far as to say that there
> should be only two
Riz,
I think you have done a very good job, well presented!
I agree that options should not be hidden away, they doesn't need to with
your gradual presenting.
I never searched to find tiddlywiki. At that time many years ago, I used
what was perfect for my note taking. Treepad Business. It
I understand your point. The discussion essentially whittles down to:
Should the single HTML file option be left chosen by default?
I myself won't be doing it. I believe it is wrong to make people's choices
for them based on untested assumptions, rather one should strive to make
their choices
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:00:52 AM UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>
>
> Ok. So single HTML file goes first.
>
> Is download saver the main option intended for promotion? I know it is
> universal, but most users would definitely want a better method. From what
> I understand from usual responses
>
Default saver is prominently explained in the wizard intro. Will that do?
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 16:40 PMario, wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 8:00:52 AM UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ok. So single HTML file goes first.
>>
>> Is download saver the main option intended for promotion? I know
Hi all
I just installed the feather icons plugin
(http://sycom.gitlab.io/TiddlyWiki-Plugins/#Feather%20icons%20plugin),
saved and refreshed. But no icons show in the icons tab of the plugin, and
pasting a macro shows nothing. Is there something else that needs
installing?
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Yes, I tried shift-dragging in Stroll to a tiddler in the other column.
Either nothing would happen or it would ask me if I wanted to 'import' it
as untitled.
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 2:17:36 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> @David the plan is to make the context menu extensible via
Beaker Browser is showing up as the first choice for "desktop" ? I guess
the list is alphabetical. I've tried beaker and it was confusing and
painful to set up. It would be a poor first choice for most people IMO.
Likewise Noteself is showing up first for cloud synchronization. I don't
know if
@TT the issue isn't one of motivation, but rather of how to best leverage
limited and sporadic availability in a way that best contributes to the
community.
My feeling so far is that the way to do so is by sharing ideas, guidance
and hopefully inspiration.
Cheers,
Saq
On Tuesday, June 23,
Saq
That's working for me.
Tony
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Riz,
The following is my view point simply in the spirit of sharing perspectives.
The key to me, is providing an easy path for the new user to identify if
tiddlywiki is for them. For someone wanting to store tiddlers in separate
files ie a specific requirement, they must first have established
@David the plan is to make the context menu extensible via tags, so you can
add buttons and commands just by tagging a tiddler with the button code
Have you tried shift+dragging recently? It should work, there was a bug
that was resolved a way back. Shift+drag is disabled when dragging to the
Ok. So single HTML file goes first.
Is download saver the main option intended for promotion? I know it is
universal, but most users would definitely want a better method. From what
I understand from usual responses - TiddlyDesktop is the one new users
usually flock to. Hence it is kept at top.
Just to clarify, all the UI tweaks are using plain wiki text and core
widgets only. There is no custom JavaScript involved.
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 2:13:37 AM UTC+2, TW Tones wrote:
>
>
> I really appreciate that you can go strait to js or plugins/actions and
> new filters to build
Dave,
While you are paralysed by choice, you could start using streams. Not
instead of any of the other, but because it is very fast to write - and fun
too.
You are not the only one having a hard time deciding. Just look at all the
questions about mixing and matching.
Birthe
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I'm watching from afar with fascination as several similar TW editions seem
to be simultaneously developing in real time.
I've been wanting to dive in but with little personal time find myself
suffering from choice paralysis.
For those who have jumped all in on one (or more) of these editions,
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 7:14:13 AM UTC-7, Robert Jopling wrote:
>
> When I try a test JSON structured as suggested I get the following error
> message
> JSON error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 8
> column 1 of the JSON data
> That character is the closing square
I played around with adding my RapidTiddler (CodeMirror based inline
editor) to Streams. It doesn't work perfectly yet, but it also isn't
completely broken like I imagined ;)
https://rapidtiddler.netlify.app/
Greetings!
Michael
Am Mi., 24. Juni 2020 um 13:25 Uhr schrieb David Gifford :
> Yes,
>
> IIRC, the EditTemplate in the plugin is missing the save-tiddler-actions.
>
> You could try copying them from $:/core/ui/EditTemplate to the top of the
> EditTemplate in the plugin.
> Hopefully I remember those details correctly but it should be something
> very close to that.
>
Yep this
Ha ha, thanks! I actually did install that plug in and like it, still unsure
of how I'm going to incorporate it in to my "official" work flow. I like the
drag and drop aspect, and the quickness, and I'm also warming to the whole
date-as-tiddler-name thing, except I have traditionally used
Hello Saq
This is step in the right direction. This is good because tags can edited
without editing the entire tiddler, same with the fields and type. I assume
this would have performance improvements for very larger TWs too. Are you
going to release this as a plugin?
Thanks
Mark Kerrigan
On
UPDATED
http://fieldvalueselector.tiddlyspot.com/
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Thanks so much for your help Eric.
I will do as you suggested and let you know what happens.
Rob
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020, 01:12 Eric Shulman, wrote:
> On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 3:27:20 PM UTC-7, Robert Jopling wrote:
>>
>> I am a newbie to TW5 and JSON so please can you explain how I achieve
>>
Hi All,
I've been chasing a strange problem or problems since upgrading to the
latest TiddlyDesktop (14) from the previous release. I only use TiddlyWiki
in TiddlyDesktop and I don't use the single html file version. All my wikis
use folders and I only use macOS.
Since I upgraded I've had
Just to throw one more in the mix.
I have been seeing this on Twitter but not here, that I recall. This
TiddlyWiki: https://learnawesome.org/tiddlywiki.html imitates this site:
https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes
On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 11:18:41 AM UTC-5
Riz,
I just realised one of my main workflow steps it I open tiddlywiki.com
(usualy pinned in a tab) and I hit download empty. Whilst I download it, in
chrome I don't care where, I just save it in a scratch folder and open it
from the browser tray.
I can then search, hack, import and test.
Dave,
Having not come from a roam like experience I am personally taken with the
dual story aspect of Stroll and love streams for its own sake.
Stream is also flexible enough to build on and enhance.
There is also Notoritty of Marks Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW
Regards
Tony
On
Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> I would like to have the list of tiddlers come up only when I'm using a
> certain field or two: namely the mother and father fields. If I'm editing
> any other field, I would like it to be have as you originally intended.
>
That is what happens for list-before and
Mark S, TW Tones,
It *is* rather funny. To use Treepad Business I have had to run it through
WINE for years now. I was setting up some laptops, looked for update to
Treepad, downloaded and all was fine. Then I thought I had forgotten some
of the extras and decided to look for them the next
A lot of people end up at the "alternative-to" web site. I notice that they
don't have TiddlyWiki listed as an alternative to Treepad. Or, if they do,
it must be more than the 3 pages that I paginated. If someone doesn't beat
me to it, I might set up a suggestion. It means setting up another
Dave,
I have seen and testet it. Try to import something into it. Then you get
the title $:/Import, vertical and no tiddlercontrols. In the settings there
are checks for closing the tiddlers to the right...but they open and closed
as they please. At least they do in the version I have had my
Birthe
Yes I was playing with it tonight. I got the same as you re: importing. But
then suddenly it snapped aright, and I was able to import. I now have my
stylesheet, fonts, and I replaced the messy viewtemplate they created with
my Stroll refs as links.
I just ditched the preview plugin,
David,
> I have been seeing this on Twitter but not here, that I recall. This
> TiddlyWiki: https://learnawesome.org/tiddlywiki.html imitates this site:
> https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes
>
I had not seen this thanks for sharing.
Perhaps one more implementation/edition of
Top bar would be a good location.
Sincerely,
Riz
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020, 08:51 TW Tones, wrote:
> Riz,
>
> I just realised one of my main workflow steps it I open tiddlywiki.com
> (usualy pinned in a tab) and I hit download empty. Whilst I download it, in
> chrome I don't care where, I just save
Folks,
This solution may make sense more to experienced TiddlyWiki users who make
their own macros, or templates they transclude from elsewhere.
- Which is possibly all slightly advanced users.
- For me personally, this is a revolutionary advance for coding, I
wonder if anyone else
>
> NotoWritey is similar to Streams but is geared more toward writing than
> productivity and outlining. The nodes that open for editing have an editing
> toolbar, which creates a cluttered feel, but increases functionality when
> writing a paragraph.
>
I'm not sure if by your comment you've
Mark, Bithe Me and more?
I too was a big user of treepad including TreePad Business. I always kept
abreast of updates, It is sad to hear.
It was almost certainly why I looked for and found TiddlyWiki, because I
wanted a higher level of customisation and automation than treepad (which
was
Mat,
Thanks for updating this. Its quite an elegant solution. Rather than me
"forking" your solution are you interested in some slight feature changes?
I am happy to contribute code and methods.
- For example if the fieldname exists as a tiddler and contains a field
"field-values-filter"
TW Tones (...I've been away from the boards for so long you even changed
your name!? ;-)
Thanks for updating this. Its quite an elegant solution.
>
Thanks for the kind words. Personally I was somewhat taken aback now that I
looked at it again, that it is so complex for something that small. I
Mat,
Thanks I will fork it, but I may share back because I am hoping the
Autonomouse tags, fields buttons etc... take off, in which case it would
not be niche
A simple extra mechanism will use a field-values-filter if a tiddler of
fieldname exists. It will have no impact on your field value
So minor changes:
1. Single file is the first option now among flavours
2. TiddlyDesktop is the first option among savers
3. Tiddlyserver is specially mentioned in Installing Nod.JS Tiddler. I guess
people who look for node will be the ones most interested to try out
Tiddlyserver.
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Do I understand it right; This is a vanilla TW hosted on gh with the
Browser storage plugin. Other than this, it is only some minor tweaks like
extra sidebar tab, some activated page controls etc. Right? I'm not saying
this in any diminishing way, I'm asking to understand. It is a super idea
Hi Dave, greetings from Dave.
Stroll: one time experiment I did to replicate a lot of Roam functionality
in TiddlyWiki. Helpful two column structure. Helpful tutorials. Process:
Use links to link tiddlers, use eyeball tab to view backlinks in different
ways, shift click on links to open a
Mat,
Do I understand it right; This is a vanilla TW hosted on gh with the
> Browser storage plugin. Other than this, it is only some minor tweaks like
> extra sidebar tab, some activated page controls etc. Right? I'm not saying
> this in any diminishing way, I'm asking to understand.
>
You
Dave and Dave.
Tony K did try to add the two column structure. I think he gave up for now.
I have had a go also, it looked nice enough until I closed the sidebar - in
the left side.
Tony also made a version with Tiddlymap.
Very nice explanation of the different versions, Dave.
Birthe
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Update Birth;
Given my recent posts on autonomous fields/tags and the codeTiddler. I am
delaying fixing this, sorry.
Regards
Tonyt
On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 11:37:33 PM UTC+10, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Birthe,
>
> Would you believe, you just revealed something about me and revealing
> things?
>
Hi Eric
I did as you suggested and it works. Thanks.
I have even managed to display editable fields in the tiddler!
Rob
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 21:35, Robert Jopling wrote:
> Thanks so much for your help Eric.
>
> I will do as you suggested and let you know what happens.
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, 22
Thank you all for the info (especially Dave :)
This is a good summary
I feel like a kid in a very large candy store (with eyes bigger than my
stomach), ha ha
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