[tw5] Re: TagCloud plugin

2019-11-29 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 9:08:32 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > I was struck by the simplicity of this solution! > One thing I want to do, but don't know how, is to change the filter so > that the results can be presented in *Count Order *(highest to lowest). > It's a bit tricky...

[tw5] SimpleNavigation

2019-11-29 Thread Magnus
I have been trying to adapt the SimpleNavigation from https://tw-scripts.github.io/Yazd/#macro%2Fsimple-navigation. I wanted to be able to cycle thru all childrenTiddler with the same parentTiddler but I can only cycle thru all tiddler. I have a testTW up on http://magnus.test.tiddlyspot.com/.

[tw5] Sort data tiddlers (dictionary tiddlers) by an index

2019-11-29 Thread Atronoush
How one can list a set of data tiddlers by an index? Consider *dat01 dat02 dat03* all tagged with *test *and all have indexes *ia *and *ib* e.g dat01 is dat01 ia: 10 ib: 12.5 And then <$list filter="[tag[test]sort[ia]]"> but seems TW sort operator does not work with index. what do

[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

2019-11-29 Thread Dave
Hey, you're right it works (yay) I'd already done those 2 fields but never thought of the reload Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

2019-11-29 Thread Stefan Pfister
Jed, thanks for the clear words. Your work is very precious. Am Freitag, 29. November 2019 11:20:07 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty: > > Stefan, > > In that setup there isn't any problem or anything to worry about. > > The problem is the pattern of installing something on a persons computer > that has

[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

2019-11-29 Thread Dave
Once again Jed's right and I should have known better: I can't get the datepicker widget to spit out the date into 3 fields, so now I'm editing Jed's code: Here's what I think should work but doesn't: /*\ title: $:/inmysocks/macros/day-diff2.js type: application/javascript module-type: macro

[tw5] Re: convert yyyymmdd to days from another date (now)

2019-11-29 Thread Jed Carty
Your code works, I just missed two things. You have to make sure that the type field of the tiddler is set to application/javascript and you need to add a field called module-type with the value macro. Also you have to save and reload your wiki for the javascript macro to be available. It is

[tw5] Re: Sort data tiddlers (dictionary tiddlers) by an index

2019-11-29 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
<$list filter="[prefix[dat]getindex[ia]sort[]]"> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-8, Atronoush wrote: > > How one can list a set of data tiddlers by an index? > > Consider *dat01 dat02 dat03* all tagged with *test *and all have indexes *ia > *and *ib* > > e.g dat01 is > > dat01

[tw5] Re: Did you know? #1 - TW is Table Row Styling Ready?

2019-11-29 Thread Jed Carty
In css the odd and even selectors count by tag, the header row is a tr the same as the other rows so the odd and even are odd and even, the header and footers just have a more specific selector applied to them, probably matching the th elements. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread Arlen Beiler
Most Node solutions that I am aware of are either request-based (AWS Lambda and Cloudfront Workers), or VM based. There's also Heroku, but it doesn't allow a persistent file system. However, the data storage structure is a more serious bottleneck for innovation, I believe, and once we have a

[tw5] Re: Query: What is a Shadow Tiddler? #confusion #101

2019-11-29 Thread TonyM
TT, I think erics use of "Shadowed" is a good one. I am working on a config tiddler solution and needed to understand this well. So here is an answer in my own words. By the way with config tiddlers shadows in effect provide a default value, you can override but you can also restore. You can

[tw5] Re: Did you know? #1 - TW is Table Row Styling Ready?

2019-11-29 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Jed Carty wrote: > > In css the odd and even selectors count by tag, the header row is a tr the > same as the other rows so the odd and even are odd and even, the header and > footers just have a more specific selector applied to them, probably > matching the th elements. > That is what I

[tw5] Re: Query: What is a Shadow Tiddler? #confusion #101

2019-11-29 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Eric Thanks for The filter terminology for referring to overridden shadows *is* somewhat > confusing, linguistically. Perhaps it might better be interpreted as > meaning "[is[shadowed]]". Also, note the difference between "overwritten" > and "overridden"... the first term implies

[tw5] Re: How to overide plugin's tiddler from another plugin

2019-11-29 Thread Matthew Lauber
There is a field called "plugin-priority" that can be used to specify plugin ordering. However, if the upstream plugin doesn't have this defined, you may run into issues. See: https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields and

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread TonyM
Cont... Sorry. Mobile gg can be a pain. I understand Jed has done a lot of on securing bob when internet facing. So what I am asking is if node where more common on hosting and safe to open to the internet could we not focus on a smaller subset of technologies with similar outcomes? Of

[tw5] Re: Did you know? #1 - TW is Table Row Styling Ready?

2019-11-29 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Repeat for those on email ... On Friday, 29 November 2019 22:14:28 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Did you know that tables generated in WikiText automatically have classes > for row styling ... > > I added colours so you can see them work ... > > [image: Screenshot_2019-11-29 twUI — testing

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The problem with solutions like PouchDb is that there are no turn-key installations. You have to pretty much do everything yourself down to the bare metal. SQL, on the other hand, is supported almost everywhere. The workaround re fields is to specify the fields you want in advance. Rebuild

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread Jed Carty
Mark, The benefit of PouchDB is that it can be installed using NPM, or packaged into something like BobEXE without having to do a system-wide installation. For a local installation PouchDB is much easier to set up than MySQL/MariaDb. If you didn't go the packaged route like BobEXE it would at

Re: [tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread Arlen Beiler
I'm kind of thinking that if the user is setting up MySQL themselves, then they have control of the server and might as well be setting up TiddlyServer or Bob anyway, unless MySQL is up their alley, in which case it's no big deal. On the flip side, using PouchDB or SQLite instead of the file

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I was thinking of remote hosting and CPanel. I found there was pretty much no support for that or any easy equivalent. But if it can be installed locally with NPM, then that could be interesting. On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 10:54:14 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote: > > Mark, > > The benefit of

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread TonyM
Npm node etc... Is really easy to use locally and to serve to local area networks inside a firewall. However as pointed out by Jed this can be a liability on mobile computers joining other networks. This can be managed. My wholesale host let me install node internet facing but its not a

[tw5] Re: TiddlyTools lives again!

2019-11-29 Thread TonyM
Eric, Lovely to have TiddlyTools back. It was my constant companion for many years and I eagerly checked the recent tab to see what easter egg you had provided. I am unlikely to use TWC any more but if I do it is reassuring this excellent resource is available and I am sure some of the retro

[tw5] Re: Sort data tiddlers (dictionary tiddlers) by an index

2019-11-29 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 10:08:25 PM UTC-8, Atronoush wrote: > > Eric, > What should I do if the tiddler name has space like "dat04 new"? > Use this revised definition for "getitems()": \define getitems() <$list filter="[tag[test]]"> <$text text="[["/>{{{

[tw5] Re: TagCloud plugin

2019-11-29 Thread TonyM
Eric, An idea riffing off this code pattern. I have seen this code pattern being used a number times to overcome some limitations within tiddlywiki. As I observed in your original solution, using the number to effect the font size was in a way capturing or using the "number" in the font so

[tw5] Re: Sort data tiddlers (dictionary tiddlers) by an index

2019-11-29 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 4:42:41 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > <$list filter="[prefix[dat]getindex[ia]sort[]]"> > > > @Mark: your answer will only return the sorted index values themselves, what @atro wants is the names of the tiddlers containing those index values There *is* a solution,

[tw5] Re: TagCloud plugin

2019-11-29 Thread TonyM
Or, What about a special pragma \onopen () actions \end Regards Tony On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 3:20:31 PM UTC+11, TonyM wrote: > > Eric, > > An idea riffing off this code pattern. > > I have seen this code pattern being used a number times to overcome some > limitations within

Re: [tw5] SonicPi, TiddlyWiki and OSC?

2019-11-29 Thread A Gloom
For the first time in a long time, I (watched)listened to a youtube video... to see if I couls use this for sound effects/music for a TW running a "html" game... something I'll need to pursue after checking out PMario's trigger mechanism... I'll be showing some screenshoots but I took TW and

[tw5] Re: TiddlyTools lives again!

2019-11-29 Thread A Gloom
ah ha! invoking your name worked (you may had noticed I did it in a couple posts recently) : P > As a result, visiting http://www.tiddlytools.com/ will once again take > you directly to my TiddlyWiki Classic site, with all the good plugins, > scripts, macros, stylesheets, etc. that you have

[tw5] Re: Sort data tiddlers (dictionary tiddlers) by an index

2019-11-29 Thread Atronoush
Hello Eric, Thank you for your solution! It is not straightforward and smart procedure but it works in my case! In conclusion I understood you have added ia as a prefix to tiddler names and then sort them. Thanks Atro On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 7:51:38 AM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote:

[tw5] Re: Sort data tiddlers (dictionary tiddlers) by an index

2019-11-29 Thread Atronoush
Eric, What should I do if the tiddler name has space like "dat04 new"? Atro On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 7:51:38 AM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote: > > On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 4:42:41 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: >> >> <$list filter="[prefix[dat]getindex[ia]sort[]]"> >> >> >> > > @Mark:

Re: [tw5] SonicPi, TiddlyWiki and OSC?

2019-11-29 Thread Jeremy Ruston
The video of our talk about Joe has just been published: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUji_DlXjm8 Best wishes Jeremy. > On 10 Nov 2019, at 12:44, PMario wrote: > > On Saturday, November 9, 2019 at 6:29:19 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: >

Re: [tw5] The-book weekly report

2019-11-29 Thread Luis Gonzalez
Thanks, Jeremy. I take this opportunity to congratulate you on this impressive software. Starting with Tiddlywiki is very easy but the step towards an advanced knowledge is really complex. I discovered tiddlywiki with the classic version long time ago and it's now when I understand the

[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-11-29 Thread Luis Gonzalez
I accept your offer. I have never programmed in javascript so there are things that I don't know. I can handle with the use of macros and widgets but I need your help with the scripting and plugin sections. This is the process that I follow: 1. Somebody send me some explanations and

[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-11-29 Thread Luis Gonzalez
*IMPORTANT NOTE:* The "borders" of the book are two: the basic tiddlywiki usage and the developing of Tiddlywiki. The-book moves between this two ends: - The-book does not explain the basic usage. We assume that the reader has already used Tiddlywiki - The-book does not explain how to

[tw5] Re: Relative permalink idea?

2019-11-29 Thread David Gifford
Cool, Tony! Thank you for sharing that. On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 5:57:44 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote: > > David, > > My Current use of this is a little different perhaps a quick partial > outline > >- Copy (crtl-V) or drag and drop any full link on a tiddlywiki from >the address bar

[tw5] Re: Relative permalink idea?

2019-11-29 Thread David Gifford
Hi PMario, thank you for that explanation. As it turns out, for both my notetaking and the web materials, I can keep all the files in one folder. So as long as I use [ext[|]], I can just add the filename.html#anchor and it works fine both online and on my kompooter. I don't need "path

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread PMario
Some more thoughts. The problem with databases I see are: - *Our users like files* and will go a long way to keep it that way. - DBs need maintenence - DBs need to be secured - ... So in the end we need a service provider, that abstracts the complexity away. I personally would like to

[tw5] Re: TiddlyTools lives again!

2019-11-29 Thread David Gifford
Title should be Eric Shulman lives again! I thought you dropped off the face of the earth. Great to have you back! Dave On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 11:24:43 PM UTC-6, Eric Shulman wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm pleased to report that I have finally managed to get my > TiddlyTools.com domain

[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-11-29 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Luis Gonzalez wrote: > > Diagrams are my passion. You are very good at them! Much appreciated. Your latest on HTML + CSS basic structure (PDF page 24) is incredibly useful. Thank you! TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-11-29 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Luis Right. I see clearly you going for "intermediate", or "D.I.Y. user with interest to go further." IMO that is *very* good for the active vocal audience which is dominantly of that type. Best wishes TT Luis Gonzalez wrote: > > ... The-book moves between this two ends: > >-

[tw5] Re: TiddlyTools lives again!

2019-11-29 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Eric, Just to say ... I would not be using TW if I had not stumbled on TiddlyTools a long, long time ago. At the time it was so astonishingly ahead I didn't then grasp fully what you could do in TW. But it stuck in my head as awesome. Some years later I came

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread Jed Carty
A while ago I made a syncer that used sqlite and from that I wouldn't suggest a relational database, SQL seems like it would be almost perfect for storing tiddlers but I immediately ran into problems with the database schema because aside from text, title, tags, created, type and modified you

[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-11-29 Thread Jed Carty
Luis, Thank you for making this, you have had far more dedication than I ever managed for writing a comprehensive guide and you are far more organised than I ever was. I can probably help with writing some of the sections, or at least give descriptions that someone who is better than I am at

[tw5] Re: Relative permalink idea?

2019-11-29 Thread PMario
Hi Dave, The problem is, that file-based URLs are handled different than server based URLs. TW offers some $:/info/url/xxx elements, that could be used to create relative links easily ... IF ... they where all server based. The server based components look like this: $:/info/url/origin +

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread PMario
Hi, If you would want to have a cool new database ArangoDB may be an option. ArangoDB is the open-source native multi-model > database for graph, document, key/value and search needs. So we could store tiddlers as "documents" and add some graph info to create a

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread PMario
One more thing: - The cool thing about DAT is, that it will nicely run on a raspberry pi 3, with a big harddrive attached. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[tw5] Re: Template transclusions from variables or fields or macros

2019-11-29 Thread Paul Lee
On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 1:42:05 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: > > I'm not sure how you're activating your template. > I was simply transcluding the template with the *{{||templateName}}* notation, following the example . I didn't

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread PMario
On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 12:45:17 PM UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote: ... > Running a ArangoDB for hosting peoples tiddlywiki like tiddlyspot would > probably work well, I am less certain about local installations. > You are on the point. I do have similar concerns about every database ... They

[tw5] Re: Template transclusions from variables or fields or macros

2019-11-29 Thread Paul Lee
> However a slight variation looks similar > {{{ [] }}} > The triple braces allow you to use a inline filter > > That appears to be the sort of functionality I was looking for; a way to substitute into the transclusion syntax. However, I can't quite get it to work; I'm having better luck with

Re: [tw5] SonicPi, TiddlyWiki and OSC?

2019-11-29 Thread PMario
On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 9:38:42 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > The video of our talk about Joe has just been published: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUji_DlXjm8 > Nice. Doing a live performance, with 3 different electronic components, during a talk is ambitious. It seems you

[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

2019-11-29 Thread Jed Carty
Stefan, In that setup there isn't any problem or anything to worry about. The problem is the pattern of installing something on a persons computer that has potential to expose them to risk without explaining that to them. I have gotten a lot of pressure to make Bob listen on 0.0.0.0 as a

[tw5] Re: Taking Node Server to the next level

2019-11-29 Thread Jed Carty
ArangoDB looks very interesting as an option. I haven't run into any multi-modal databases like that before. It does look like the data model is just about ideal for tiddlywiki in terms of storing tiddlers and full html files, storing html files as a string shouldn't be a problem. A quick

[tw5] Re: Relative permalink idea?

2019-11-29 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Dave You can't yourself mark a thread complete. Only another user can. I did . Quirk of the GG. I see you solved issue no problem="relative addressing" TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[tw5] Re: TiddlyTools lives again!

2019-11-29 Thread Diego Mesa
What a time to be a TW user! With Luis Gonzalez excellent book and the return of Erics, we're definitely in for a great 2020! On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 8:00:16 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote: > > Title should be Eric Shulman lives again! I thought you dropped off the > face of the earth.

[tw5] Re: Query: What is a Shadow Tiddler? #confusion #101

2019-11-29 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Email repeat ... "What is a shadow?" ... that is one thing I found VERY confusing for a long time. And maybe still I am confused? As far as I understand it now, a "shadow" Tiddler is always a Tiddler in a plugin? (ref ) But I then get further confused

[tw5] Re: Query: What is a Shadow Tiddler? #confusion #101

2019-11-29 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 7:00:30 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > "What is a shadow?" ... that is one thing I found VERY confusing for a > long time. And maybe still I am confused? > > As far as I understand it now, a "shadow" Tiddler is always a Tiddler in a > plugin? (ref