[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-13 Thread Eric Shulman
On May 11, 11:43 am, reaktorb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was having the same problem, receiving the error message you describe
 about Unable to get property '1' of undefined or null reference. I found
 out that this problem is not in Firefox 20+ but it is in IE 10. What fixed
 this for me was to go to tools - compatibility view settings - check the
 option to display all websites in compatibility view

I believe that I've found (and fixed) the unable to get property '1'
error.

I've posted a revised beta build (TW272b2) at: http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/beta

Please download and confirm that the error no longer occurs in IE10+
when NOT using compatibility view.  Let me know as soon as you can...
once this fix is confirmed, I will be able to advance TW272 to full
release.

thanks,
-e
TiddlyWiki Classic Lead Developer

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-13 Thread reaktorblue
Tests successful for me.
- fresh TW272b2
- IE10 compatibility view disabled
- no longer receiving Unable to get property '1' of undefined or null 
reference

On Friday, May 3, 2013 8:51:30 PM UTC-4, Eric Shulman wrote:

 Greetings All! 

 I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic, version 2.7.2 BETA 1, 
 is now available for viewing/download, here: 
 http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta 

 IMPORTANT: This revision is on an shortened release schedule and, 
 barring any reports of critical show stopper errors, will be 
 promoted to full release within the next week. 

 This revision includes the following changes: 

 * Backstageimport: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/116 

 Importing tiddlers now uses FileReader API whenever available 
 (currently supported by Chrome, Firefox 20+, etc.).  This new HTML5- 
 standard browser-based file I/O handling does not require any special 
 privileges or security permissions to read contents of files that you 
 interactively select from your local filesystem, and you can now 
 successfully import tiddler from files that are outside of the current 
 folder. 

 Note: this change only applies when you use the browse (or select 
 file) button to interactively choose a document from your local 
 filesystem.   If you manually enter (or paste) a local file:// URL 
 into the import form (or if FileReader handling is not supported by 
 your browser version), the existing browser-specific file I/O 
 functions are used, which still requires security permissions and/or 
 other add-ons to permit reading of file contents; e.g. TiddlyFox 
 (FireFox), TiddlySaver java applet (Chrome, Safari, Opera, etc.), or 
 ActiveX (Internet Explorer). 

 * Internet Explorer: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/118 

 When using IE10 (the current version of IE), special-case handling of 
 embedded newlines in PRE-formatted blocks is no longer applied.  This 
 corrects a formatting/display error introduced by changes in IE10. 
 Note: this change only applies to IE10 and above; special handling is 
 still applied to embedded newlines in IE9 and earlier so there should 
 be no change to existing content when viewed on IE9 or earlier. 

 enjoy, 
 -e 
 Eric Shulman 
 Lead Developer - TiddlyWiki Classic 


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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-11 Thread reaktorblue
I was having the same problem, receiving the error message you describe 
about Unable to get property '1' of undefined or null reference. I found 
out that this problem is not in Firefox 20+ but it is in IE 10. What fixed 
this for me was to go to tools - compatibility view settings - check the 
option to display all websites in compatibility view

The only reason I'm cool with making that change is because I only use IE 
on my personal computer to edit my TW. This is so it's a similar experience 
as I use the same TW at work where they use IE and my access is limited by 
group policy.

HTH



Warmest Regards,

RB

On Saturday, May 4, 2013 9:42:45 PM UTC-4, Scott Simmons wrote:

 For what it's worth, this is what happens for me:

 The display URI is built from the path of the TiddlyWiki itself *and* the 
 path of the TiddlyWiki I'm importing from.

 file:///F:/installers/TiddlyWiki/
 W:/XAMPP/htdocs/sites/TiddlyWikis/secret-hq/add-ons.tw

 (I never noticed this before, likely because I was always importing from 
 the same directory once I knew that cross-directory imports would fail.)

 Just like you say, though, the import works fine — even though the 
 displayed URI appears mangled.

 —

 Likely unrelated/irrelevant, but — with some TiddlyWikis as the target, I 
 do get this error:

 Unable to get property '1' of undefined or null reference.


 After clicking OK, I get the list of tiddlers and import proceeds fine.


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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-09 Thread chris . dent

On Thu, 9 May 2013, PMario wrote:


On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:27:34 PM UTC+2, Chris Dent wrote:


The query string argument is appended to the url that loads a
tiddlywiki, for example for one of my spaces:

   http://cdent-t13.tiddlyspace.com/?twrelease=beta



I did test this with my @pmario space. But version macro says 2.7.1.
The github repo should have 2.7.2 (beta) allready.


Your use of external in ServerSettings is confusing the system. You
need to get rid of that in order for you to be able to access the
beta (for which there is currently no externalized version, so it
fails during the which empty.html do I use stage of the code).
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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-09 Thread PMario
ok. thx
-m

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-08 Thread Scott Simmons
Hi, Tony —

Here's the thread I posted about that weird wipeout bug when I first 
encountered 
it.https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/9c3hfHIJDdI/discussion  
Maybe there's something in my troubleshooting history worth excavating? 
 Feel free to post over there and let me know how it's similar/different to 
what you're experiencing.  (This 
posthttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/9c3hfHIJDdI/ah4sSv7oe_kJtells 
how I changed by back-up strategy to cope.)

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-06 Thread julien23
Hi Eric

Thank you for new version.

I am very pleased too to have import tiddler from files that are outside 
of the current folder. back. Same as Måns, it gives me hope to have one 
day your AttachFilePackage back too.

Regards

Julien

Le samedi 4 mai 2013 08:44:07 UTC+2, Måns a écrit :

 Hi Eric


 * Backstageimport: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/116 

 Importing tiddlers now uses FileReader API whenever available 
 (currently supported by Chrome, Firefox 20+, etc.).  This new HTML5- 
 standard browser-based file I/O handling does not require any special 
 privileges or security permissions to read contents of files that you 
 interactively select from your local filesystem, and you can now 
 successfully import tiddler from files that are outside of the current 
 folder. 


 This is *GREAT* news :-)
 It seems to work very well - thank you!

 I was wondering: Is there any chance that your  AttachFilePlugin could 
 benefit from the same FileReader API?

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson


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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-06 Thread julien23
Hi

Upgrade process worked fine.

I was exited to have the import feature back so I immediately triggered my 
sync scheme ... but it relies on LoadTiddlersPlugin that have to be fixed 
as well :(

Thank you anyway ... waiting for the futur


Le lundi 6 mai 2013 13:27:15 UTC+2, julien23 a écrit :

 Hi Eric

 Thank you for new version.

 I am very pleased too to have import tiddler from files that are outside 
 of the current folder. back. Same as Måns, it gives me hope to have one 
 day your AttachFilePackage back too.

 Regards

 Julien

 Le samedi 4 mai 2013 08:44:07 UTC+2, Måns a écrit :

 Hi Eric


 * Backstageimport: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/116 

 Importing tiddlers now uses FileReader API whenever available 
 (currently supported by Chrome, Firefox 20+, etc.).  This new HTML5- 
 standard browser-based file I/O handling does not require any special 
 privileges or security permissions to read contents of files that you 
 interactively select from your local filesystem, and you can now 
 successfully import tiddler from files that are outside of the current 
 folder. 


 This is *GREAT* news :-)
 It seems to work very well - thank you!

 I was wondering: Is there any chance that your  AttachFilePlugin could 
 benefit from the same FileReader API?

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson



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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-06 Thread Scott Simmons
On Monday, May 6, 2013 1:56:11 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:


 All seemed to be working fine then lost ability to save all, also for 
 orignal tiddlywik in another tab.

 Restarted firefox and every thing seems to be working in both original and 
 new versions


For what it's worth, this has been happening for me occasionally as far 
back as TW 2.5.2.

I've never been able to nail down the exact circumstances or define a 
procedure that reliably replicates the error, but it tends to surface when 
I have multiple TiddlyWikis from different locations open in the same 
browser for long periods of time.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-06 Thread TonyM
Thanks for the observation Scott.

It may have something todo with my continuing problem where FF abends on 
save of my tiddlywiki (TiddlyWiki forced to 0 Bytes in size) after being 
open for some time. I loose to much when this happens so I am restarting FF 
3 + times a day to avoid it.

Experienced in Multiple FF versions, tiddlyFox and tiddlywiki versions.

Tony M

On Monday, 6 May 2013 23:45:46 UTC+10, Scott Simmons wrote:

 On Monday, May 6, 2013 1:56:11 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:


 All seemed to be working fine then lost ability to save all, also for 
 orignal tiddlywik in another tab.

 Restarted firefox and every thing seems to be working in both original 
 and new versions


 For what it's worth, this has been happening for me occasionally as far 
 back as TW 2.5.2.

 I've never been able to nail down the exact circumstances or define a 
 procedure that reliably replicates the error, but it tends to surface when 
 I have multiple TiddlyWikis from different locations open in the same 
 browser for long periods of time.


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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-05 Thread Stephan Hradek
;) But now I at least know that you know about the problem. I never got 
reply before.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-05 Thread FrD
Hi,

Thanks for new version !

Tested on android 4.2.1 and Firefox 20.0.1 with TiddlyFox : works fine, 
import OK.

FrD

Le samedi 4 mai 2013 02:51:30 UTC+2, Eric Shulman a écrit :

 Greetings All! 

 I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic, version 2.7.2 BETA 1, 
 is now available for viewing/download, here: 
 http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta 

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-05 Thread PMario
There is allready an issue at: 
https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/123
-m

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-05 Thread Yakov


суббота, 4 мая 2013 г., 23:05:48 UTC+4 пользователь Eric Shulman написал:

 On May 4, 10:20 am, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Now my point is, I'd like to test the update engine, but currently I 
 have 
  no opporunity to do this. My 2.7.1 TW sais: 
  This TiddlyWiki appears to be already using the latest version of the 
 core 
  code (2.7.1). 
  You can continue to upgrade anyway to ensure that the core code hasn't 
 been 
  corrupted or damaged 

 The backstage upgrade process only applies to full releases.  The 
 current full release is still TW271.  When TW272 is released, a copy 
 is posted to http://tiddlywiki-releases.tiddlyspace.com, which is then 
 used as the source for upgrades.  Until then, the upgrade process 
 considers TW271 to be current. 

 Yes, but the point of the current version a being stable I suppose. 
Upgrading with corrupting content is not very pleasant.. By the way, (back 
to my 2.7.1 beta - 2.7.1 example) when TiddlyWiki said that a backup was 
created I searched in the same folder and haven't found it; only after a 
while (when I had already recovered my data) I've noticed that there 
appeared an additional folder to which the backup was put. I think it's 
also worth to extend the message so that a user will understand where the 
backup is.
 

  I tried this, and fortunately this haven't spoiled the content. However, 
 to 
  be sure that the new version is safe, I have to test upgrading from 
 2.7.1 
  to 2.7.2 beta. Is there any way to do so? May be it's worth extending 
 the 
  upgrade engine so that it allows two options: update to the main current 
  release or update to the current nightly built? 

 To test a beta build you need to first download a local copy and then 
 import your content. 

 Go to http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta, and select the download link 
 (or, just right click the link right here and choose save link 
 as  Once the file is downloaded, open it locally, select 
 backstageimport, and import your content from another document.  Then 
 save-and-reload to verify that your plugins are working. 

 I've tested import with Opera 12.15 and FireFox 20.0.1, win7 x64, imported 
from both the same local drive and another one (from C: to D:). Everything 
looks fine, but one detail was unexpected: despite the fact that I disabled 
AutoSave (chkAutoSave == false), each time in both browsers after I 
imported, the Main TiddlyWiki file saved message appeared and then I saw 
that txtAutoSave is set back to true. Not very handy for testing, though 
probably useful for ordinary import.
 

 -e 


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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-05 Thread TonyM
Eric,

Thanks for the update. My observations, downloaded empty of the beta.
Opened in FF 20.0.1, yes to TiddlyFox 1.0alpha12 plugin dialogue
Imported all tiddlers from my 2.7.1 fully laden tiddly wiki, save an reload

All seemed to be working fine then lost ability to save all, also for 
orignal tiddlywik in another tab.

Restarted firefox and every thing seems to be working in both original and 
new versions

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, 4 May 2013 10:51:30 UTC+10, Eric Shulman wrote:

 Greetings All! 

 I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic, version 2.7.2 BETA 1, 
 is now available for viewing/download, here: 
 http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta 

 IMPORTANT: This revision is on an shortened release schedule and, 
 barring any reports of critical show stopper errors, will be 
 promoted to full release within the next week. 

 This revision includes the following changes: 

 * Backstageimport: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/116 

 Importing tiddlers now uses FileReader API whenever available 
 (currently supported by Chrome, Firefox 20+, etc.).  This new HTML5- 
 standard browser-based file I/O handling does not require any special 
 privileges or security permissions to read contents of files that you 
 interactively select from your local filesystem, and you can now 
 successfully import tiddler from files that are outside of the current 
 folder. 

 Note: this change only applies when you use the browse (or select 
 file) button to interactively choose a document from your local 
 filesystem.   If you manually enter (or paste) a local file:// URL 
 into the import form (or if FileReader handling is not supported by 
 your browser version), the existing browser-specific file I/O 
 functions are used, which still requires security permissions and/or 
 other add-ons to permit reading of file contents; e.g. TiddlyFox 
 (FireFox), TiddlySaver java applet (Chrome, Safari, Opera, etc.), or 
 ActiveX (Internet Explorer). 

 * Internet Explorer: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/118 

 When using IE10 (the current version of IE), special-case handling of 
 embedded newlines in PRE-formatted blocks is no longer applied.  This 
 corrects a formatting/display error introduced by changes in IE10. 
 Note: this change only applies to IE10 and above; special handling is 
 still applied to embedded newlines in IE9 and earlier so there should 
 be no change to existing content when viewed on IE9 or earlier. 

 enjoy, 
 -e 
 Eric Shulman 
 Lead Developer - TiddlyWiki Classic 


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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-04 Thread Måns
Hi Eric


 * Backstageimport: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/116 

 Importing tiddlers now uses FileReader API whenever available 
 (currently supported by Chrome, Firefox 20+, etc.).  This new HTML5- 
 standard browser-based file I/O handling does not require any special 
 privileges or security permissions to read contents of files that you 
 interactively select from your local filesystem, and you can now 
 successfully import tiddler from files that are outside of the current 
 folder. 


This is *GREAT* news :-)
It seems to work very well - thank you!

I was wondering: Is there any chance that your  AttachFilePlugin could 
benefit from the same FileReader API?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-04 Thread Yakov
Hello Eric,

I have an issue about testing new core versions.

Preliminary. When 2.7.1 beta was released, I downloaded it, but haven't 
given it a try in an actual use. After a while, I decided to add one more 
TiddlyWiki to those I use and took that one. I put some content 
(fortunately, not much) there but there was a problem with saving with 
TiddlySaver (I had to use FireFox instead), so I decided to upgrade the 
core. I've run the update engine, but what I got was spoiled content 
(before upgrade, it contained non-latin letters; after -- as well but 
mostly some hieroglyphs, may be Chinese). There were some piculiar details 
about it: for instance, some tiddler titles got created= parts and texts 
-- parts of pre and may be div tags (parts of the storage html code).

Now my point is, I'd like to test the update engine, but currently I have 
no opporunity to do this. My 2.7.1 TW sais:

This TiddlyWiki appears to be already using the latest version of the core 
code (2.7.1).

You can continue to upgrade anyway to ensure that the core code hasn't been 
corrupted or damaged

I tried this, and fortunately this haven't spoiled the content. However, to 
be sure that the new version is safe, I have to test upgrading from 2.7.1 
to 2.7.2 beta. Is there any way to do so? May be it's worth extending the 
upgrade engine so that it allows two options: update to the main current 
release or update to the current nightly built?

Best regards,
Yakov.

суббота, 4 мая 2013 г., 4:51:30 UTC+4 пользователь Eric Shulman написал:

 Greetings All! 

 I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic, version 2.7.2 BETA 1, 
 is now available for viewing/download, here: 
 http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta 

 IMPORTANT: This revision is on an shortened release schedule and, 
 barring any reports of critical show stopper errors, will be 
 promoted to full release within the next week. 

 This revision includes the following changes: 

 * Backstageimport: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/116 

 Importing tiddlers now uses FileReader API whenever available 
 (currently supported by Chrome, Firefox 20+, etc.).  This new HTML5- 
 standard browser-based file I/O handling does not require any special 
 privileges or security permissions to read contents of files that you 
 interactively select from your local filesystem, and you can now 
 successfully import tiddler from files that are outside of the current 
 folder. 

 Note: this change only applies when you use the browse (or select 
 file) button to interactively choose a document from your local 
 filesystem.   If you manually enter (or paste) a local file:// URL 
 into the import form (or if FileReader handling is not supported by 
 your browser version), the existing browser-specific file I/O 
 functions are used, which still requires security permissions and/or 
 other add-ons to permit reading of file contents; e.g. TiddlyFox 
 (FireFox), TiddlySaver java applet (Chrome, Safari, Opera, etc.), or 
 ActiveX (Internet Explorer). 

 * Internet Explorer: 
   See https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/118 

 When using IE10 (the current version of IE), special-case handling of 
 embedded newlines in PRE-formatted blocks is no longer applied.  This 
 corrects a formatting/display error introduced by changes in IE10. 
 Note: this change only applies to IE10 and above; special handling is 
 still applied to embedded newlines in IE9 and earlier so there should 
 be no change to existing content when viewed on IE9 or earlier. 

 enjoy, 
 -e 
 Eric Shulman 
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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-04 Thread Eric Shulman
On May 4, 10:20 am, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now my point is, I'd like to test the update engine, but currently I have
 no opporunity to do this. My 2.7.1 TW sais:
 This TiddlyWiki appears to be already using the latest version of the core
 code (2.7.1).
 You can continue to upgrade anyway to ensure that the core code hasn't been
 corrupted or damaged

The backstage upgrade process only applies to full releases.  The
current full release is still TW271.  When TW272 is released, a copy
is posted to http://tiddlywiki-releases.tiddlyspace.com, which is then
used as the source for upgrades.  Until then, the upgrade process
considers TW271 to be current.

 I tried this, and fortunately this haven't spoiled the content. However, to
 be sure that the new version is safe, I have to test upgrading from 2.7.1
 to 2.7.2 beta. Is there any way to do so? May be it's worth extending the
 upgrade engine so that it allows two options: update to the main current
 release or update to the current nightly built?

To test a beta build you need to first download a local copy and then
import your content.

Go to http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta, and select the download link
(or, just right click the link right here and choose save link
as  Once the file is downloaded, open it locally, select
backstageimport, and import your content from another document.  Then
save-and-reload to verify that your plugins are working.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-04 Thread Scott Simmons
Woo-hoo!

Even with the new API, though, it seems that using browse to select a 
file still generates a malformed URI, as detailed here:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/70FECqj3otg/00A3dOF-m-sJ

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-04 Thread Eric Shulman
 Even with the new API, though, it seems that using browse to select a
 file still generates a malformed URI, as detailed here:

 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/70FECqj3otg/00A3dOF-m-sJ

When you select a file with the browse button, the displayed URI text
is actually not used.  Rather, an internal object, returned from the
selection dialog, is passed along to the FileReader API.  Thus, even
if the URI is malformed, the FileReader should still be able to open
the file that was selected.

Nonetheless, the code should not be creating a malformed URI... I'll
look into this.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-04 Thread Scott Simmons
For what it's worth, this is what happens for me:

The display URI is built from the path of the TiddlyWiki itself *and* the 
path of the TiddlyWiki I'm importing from.

file:///F:/installers/TiddlyWiki/
W:/XAMPP/htdocs/sites/TiddlyWikis/secret-hq/add-ons.tw

(I never noticed this before, likely because I was always importing from 
the same directory once I knew that cross-directory imports would fail.)

Just like you say, though, the import works fine — even though the 
displayed URI appears mangled.

—

Likely unrelated/irrelevant, but — with some TiddlyWikis as the target, I 
do get this error:

Unable to get property '1' of undefined or null reference.


After clicking OK, I get the list of tiddlers and import proceeds fine.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-04 Thread Stephan Hradek
Transcluded Tiddler Sections don't get refreshed when changed.

Example:

[[PartlyTranscluded]]
!Section1
not transcluded
!Section2
transcluded
!End

[[transcluding]]
tiddler [[PartlyTranscluded##Section2]]

This will give you in transcluding the proper text transcludded.

If you change the tiddler PartlyTranscluded, the tiddler transcluding 
does not get refresehed.

But I already mentioned that before to you ;)

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.7.2 BETA 1

2013-05-04 Thread Eric Shulman
On May 4, 7:24 pm, Stephan Hradek stephan.hra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Transcluded Tiddler Sections don't get refreshed when changed.

Responses on this thread should be specific to problems with TW272b1;
i.e, a problem that existed in a previous revision and was **supposed
to be fixed** in TW272b1 -- as per the [[WhatsNew]] tiddler -- is
still broken, or something that worked in a previous revision is newly
broken in TW272b1.  Any other problems should be discussed/reported in
a separate thread.

Thanks,
-e

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