[tw5] Re: Quinoid

[HC Haase]

Hi 
is there any development on this? I have the same problem. It is good to 
know that there is no real problem, but still quite annoying.

thanks

torsdag den 31. januar 2019 kl. 17.34.39 UTC+1 skrev Mark S.:
>
> After a page has been loaded, it's sent some javascript to determine the 
> title. This results in some sort of internal error that you never see with 
> text pages and images because they have no javascript. TW does have 
> javascript, but  presumably the code that is being run is encrypted and 
> throws the error. I might experiment with another mechanism for getting the 
> title, but suspect it's something you'll have to live with for now. What I 
> would need to know to make a clean solution is whether there is something 
> inside of a TW file that can be safely tested for encryption before running 
> fetch-title routine.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 2:07:31 AM UTC-8, Hubert wrote:
>>
>> Mark, thanks for your work on the app!
>>
>> Does Quinoid treat password protected TWs differently? When I load mine, 
>> I get a JS red screen of death as an underlay to my password input field. I 
>> can dismiss that JS error message and continue without issues, so it's more 
>> a cosmetic nuisance. That said, the error does not show on any other 
>> browser.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Hubert
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 January 2019 17:10:58 UTC, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a moment. With eyes that are not shut and a moustache that is 
>>> shorter and uplifts it could work.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 30 January 2019 17:57:14 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:

 Obviously, I need to fire my graphic artist ...

 On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 1:11:21 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Tony
>  Have you got new icon?
> I installed the new update the icon is the same as 190128a a middle 
> aged cat (seems very serious)!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 10:17:16 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I am very Interested. Just installed on my LG V20 android 8.0.0
>>
>> Looking very good, once again ahead in leaps and bounds.
>>
>> Cute new Icon on Home screen and in app.
>>
>>
>>- When Installing it requests no permissions
>>- When Starting it asks for file access
>>- Local Files Select wiki, title not known, opened quickly
>>- Return to Quinoid "file manager" - Title not perfect but good 
>>enough "~PSaT Material" was the wiki title.
>>   - Perhaps if title creation simply ignored "~"
>>- System Explorer, select wiki 
>>- Attempt to import gives File Chooser "Capture Image" and 
>>"Files", 
>>   - Capture Image, take photo, imported image (may need rotation)
>>   - Files, Select json no result after selection
>>   - Files, Open TiddlyWiki file Import opens and can toggle what 
>>   to import, tiddler import works
>>   - EXPORTING
>>   - View Menu, More > Export tiddler > Presents choice csv, JSON 
>>   and Static HTML
>>  - CSV Saves wiki
>>   - Import geolocations JSON
>>   - Tiddlers imported
>>   - Displays "undefined widgety 'geoloc'
>>   - Save, Reload Button "No result
>>   - Exit Quinoid
>>   - Repoen - Geolocation tiddler, previouse error gone
>>   - Get Message $:/temp/geolocationsMessage eolocation access 
>>   denied: User denied Geolocation. "You may not are connected via 
>> httpS:" 
>>   (exactly as reported no typos).
>>   - Phone Settings >  Apps and Notifications, Locate Quinoid, 
>>   permissions, all permissions, can only see SD related permissions
>>   - Phone Settings >  Apps and Notifications > App Permissions > 
>>   Your Location > Quinoid not listed for me to activate (setup 
>> widget uses 
>>   same icon as Quinoid
>>
>> One of my wikis has the Title @@colour:blue:titlename@@ and renders 
>> the same in the list.- I do not think you need to address this.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 4:16:56 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> If anyone is interested in testing, I've added quinoid-190129a.apk 
>>> to the current v0.0.5alpha release.
>>>
>>> It  may, or may not, add the ability to import (but not export) 
>>> files.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback!
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.5alpha
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Sapphireslinger]

I am about to download Quinoid apk, but I can not quite gather from this thread 
whether I should use Quinoid a or Quinoid b?

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Mohammad]

Thanks for the update!

Hope you find free time and go to the beach :-)

Thanks for all the useful tools and codes you provided to TW community!

Cheers
Mohammad


On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 7:54:25 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I wouldn't say I'm abandoning it quite yet. Just maybe not aggressively 
> pursuing
> it. Seeing how other projects shape up. Especially if existing features 
> aren't really 
> being used. Like the last upgrade had code to allow geo permissions in it, 
> because
> that was requested. But I'm not sure if it's working. My physical test 
> device doesn't
> have GPS, and the virtual device doesn't do GPS. So I'm dependent on 
> feedback.
>
> Also, well it's summer and a lot of people are at the beach (not me, but 
> some people).
>
> I'm definitely glad to hear you're using it! Working with synchronizing 
> products like
> GDrive can be scary -- even if your application works perfectly -- there's 
> so many
> points of possible failure.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 8:04:20 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>  I use Quinoid and it quite useful. I use both local storage and Google 
>> Drive!
>> It is pity you abandon Quinoid!
>>
>> It is the only one works seamlessly with Drive.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 7:30:55 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not sure. When I started writing there were no other Android 
>>> solutions (except AndTidwiki). Now there's
>>> two others in the running. There was some criticism that Q. couldn't use 
>>> local drives (don't know if the
>>> user tried the "local" mode), so I might be out of my league.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 2:18:50 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 No news on Quinoid for a while?
 Is there any plan for beta and RC?

 I think it is a stable version and has great feature, the one I can 
 open from Google Drive is quite useful!

 --Mohammad


 On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 2:42:40 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity 
> page from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW 
> files) to download. 
> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please 
> see 
> the Readme.
>
> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>
> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and 
> testing was very light. 
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>
> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>
> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
> 
>


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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I wouldn't say I'm abandoning it quite yet. Just maybe not aggressively 
pursuing
it. Seeing how other projects shape up. Especially if existing features 
aren't really 
being used. Like the last upgrade had code to allow geo permissions in it, 
because
that was requested. But I'm not sure if it's working. My physical test 
device doesn't
have GPS, and the virtual device doesn't do GPS. So I'm dependent on 
feedback.

Also, well it's summer and a lot of people are at the beach (not me, but 
some people).

I'm definitely glad to hear you're using it! Working with synchronizing 
products like
GDrive can be scary -- even if your application works perfectly -- there's 
so many
points of possible failure.

Thanks!

On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 8:04:20 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>  I use Quinoid and it quite useful. I use both local storage and Google 
> Drive!
> It is pity you abandon Quinoid!
>
> It is the only one works seamlessly with Drive.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 7:30:55 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure. When I started writing there were no other Android 
>> solutions (except AndTidwiki). Now there's
>> two others in the running. There was some criticism that Q. couldn't use 
>> local drives (don't know if the
>> user tried the "local" mode), so I might be out of my league.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 2:18:50 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> No news on Quinoid for a while?
>>> Is there any plan for beta and RC?
>>>
>>> I think it is a stable version and has great feature, the one I can open 
>>> from Google Drive is quite useful!
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 2:42:40 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:


 This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity 
 page from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW 
 files) to download. 
 The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
 advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please 
 see 
 the Readme.

 The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
 Readme, and Empty Editions.

 As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and 
 testing was very light. 

 Thanks!
 -- Mark


 Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01

 Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases

 quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
 

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Mohammad]

Hi Mark,
 I use Quinoid and it quite useful. I use both local storage and Google 
Drive!
It is pity you abandon Quinoid!

It is the only one works seamlessly with Drive.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 7:30:55 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm not sure. When I started writing there were no other Android solutions 
> (except AndTidwiki). Now there's
> two others in the running. There was some criticism that Q. couldn't use 
> local drives (don't know if the
> user tried the "local" mode), so I might be out of my league.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 2:18:50 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>> No news on Quinoid for a while?
>> Is there any plan for beta and RC?
>>
>> I think it is a stable version and has great feature, the one I can open 
>> from Google Drive is quite useful!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 2:42:40 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity 
>>> page from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW 
>>> files) to download. 
>>> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
>>> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
>>> the Readme.
>>>
>>> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
>>> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>>>
>>> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and 
>>> testing was very light. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>>>
>>> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>>>
>>> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
>>> 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm not sure. When I started writing there were no other Android solutions 
(except AndTidwiki). Now there's
two others in the running. There was some criticism that Q. couldn't use 
local drives (don't know if the
user tried the "local" mode), so I might be out of my league.

Thanks!

On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 2:18:50 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> No news on Quinoid for a while?
> Is there any plan for beta and RC?
>
> I think it is a stable version and has great feature, the one I can open 
> from Google Drive is quite useful!
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 2:42:40 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
>> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
>> download. 
>> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
>> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
>> the Readme.
>>
>> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
>> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>>
>> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and 
>> testing was very light. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>>
>> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>>
>> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
>> 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S. & Mohammad

I agree with you Mohammad ...

I think it is a stable version and has great feature, the one I can open 
> from Google Drive is quite useful!
>

One  very good feature of Quidoid is how you can customise it to "fetch" 
any TiddlyWiki you want.

It opens the door well to bespoke applications in a quiet, efficient, way.  

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Mohammad]

Hi Mark,
No news on Quinoid for a while?
Is there any plan for beta and RC?

I think it is a stable version and has great feature, the one I can open 
from Google Drive is quite useful!

--Mohammad


On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 2:42:40 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
> download. 
> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
> the Readme.
>
> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>
> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and testing 
> was very light. 
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>
> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>
> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[TonyM]

David,

That wiki is mine and only proposed. It is for learning and documentation. You 
are best using empty when using and building solutions.

I will see if i can fix it.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[David Nebauer]

Mark S., you are correct. I started my android wiki with a "full wiki" 
download of the "TW for New Users" at 
http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/TW5NewUser.html. It was that wiki that 
displayed the problem with the invisible menu.

I have switched to an empty download of tiddlywiki.com wiki and the problem 
has disappeared.

Regards,
David.

On Monday, 18 March 2019 03:41:28 UTC+9:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> I think this sort of thing will depend on the nature of your hosted TW, 
> themes, tweaks, and/or your screen size and orientation.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 3:26:53 AM UTC-7, David Nebauer wrote:
>>
>>
>> Only one usability issue to report: when I invoke the "More" dropdown 
>> from the ViewToolbar, the resulting menu is invisible.
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[TonyM]

Thanks David

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks for the feedback, David.

I think this sort of thing will depend on the nature of your hosted TW, 
themes, tweaks, and/or your screen size and orientation.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 3:26:53 AM UTC-7, David Nebauer wrote:
>
> Reporting successful install of 190313a on a Pixel 1 running android 9. I 
> was asked for storage permissions -- can't recall at exactly which point, 
> though I think it was when I first opened a tiddlywiki.
>
> Only one usability issue to report, aside from my apparently giant fingers 
> sometimes having difficulty pressing the right icon in a toolbar: when I 
> invoke the "More" dropdown from the ViewToolbar, the resulting menu is 
> invisible. Here is a tiddler with the ViewToolbar displayed next to the 
> tiddler title, with the "More" dropdown icon leftmost:
>
> [image: tiddler.png]
>
> Here is the dropdown menu after selection:
>
> [image: dropdown.png]
>
> The menu contents appear briefly when the menu is invoked, before quickly 
> fading to white. If the menu is dismissed by clicking elsewhere in the user 
> interface, the menu contents again appear briefly before the menu 
> disappears. The menu contents are still there, and menu items can still be 
> selected despite them being invisible. If I select a menu option, the menu 
> again appears briefly, with the selected menu item in reverse colouring (as 
> per normal operation), before the menu disappears and the selected action 
> is executed.
>
> Aside from this problem, quinoid has worked brilliantly for me and I have 
> been able to copy across the contents of a small google Keep Notes (only 16 
> items/tidders).
>
> Thanks for this great TW addition. Happy to do further testing on my 
> android device if it helps.
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[TonyM]

David

I am keen to exit keep. Did you just transfer manualy, have you built a replica?

I hope to reproduce its use as a shopping list that allows searching previous 
entries on mobile.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[David Nebauer]

Reporting successful install of 190313a on a Pixel 1 running android 9. I 
was asked for storage permissions -- can't recall at exactly which point, 
though I think it was when I first opened a tiddlywiki.

Only one usability issue to report, aside from my apparently giant fingers 
sometimes having difficulty pressing the right icon in a toolbar: when I 
invoke the "More" dropdown from the ViewToolbar, the resulting menu is 
blank. Here is a tiddler with the ViewToolbar displayed next to the tiddler 
title, with the "More" dropdown icon leftmost:

[image: tiddler.png]

Here is the dropdown menu after selection:

[image: dropdown.png]

The menu contents appear briefly when the menu is invoked, before quickly 
fading to white. If the menu is dismissed by clicking elsewhere in the user 
interface, the menu contents again appear briefly before the menu 
disappears. The menu contents are still there, and menu items can still be 
selected despite them being invisible. If I select a menu option, the menu 
again appears briefly, with the selected menu item in reverse colouring (as 
per normal operation), before the menu disappears and the selected action 
is executed.

Aside from this problem, quinoid has worked brilliantly for me and I have 
been able to copy across the contents of a small google Keep Notes (only 16 
items/tidders).

Thanks for this great TW addition. Happy to do further testing on my 
android device if it helps.

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks for the feedback, Watt!

-- Mark

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 3:43:34 PM UTC-7, Watt wrote:
>
> Thank you Mark the geo apk works for me. 
>
> I had already allowed location permissions to the previous version so 
> can't say if it prompts for location or not. No prompts popped up anyway.
>
> The wiki does now receive location info and acquires geo points via the 
> geoloc macro and displays maps via leaflet. All working.
>
> Thanks very much once again. I can't point you to the geoloc macro but 
> it's on the forum. I installed it a long time ago and it was quite a 
> challenge to get it working but it does work very well for me now. I would 
> caution anyone experimenting to try it on empty test wikis first though, 
> the version I used had a tendency to permanently lock up your wiki if 
> everything wasn't exactly right. Maybe it's been updated since then.
>
> It works on Quinoid for me now - great stuff!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Watt]

Thank you Mark the geo apk works for me. 

I had already allowed location permissions to the previous version so can't say 
if it prompts for location or not. No prompts popped up anyway.

The wiki does now receive location info and acquires geo points via the geoloc 
macro and displays maps via leaflet. All working.

Thanks very much once again. I can't point you to the geoloc macro but it's on 
the forum. I installed it a long time ago and it was quite a challenge to get 
it working but it does work very well for me now. I would caution anyone 
experimenting to try it on empty test wikis first though, the version I used 
had a tendency to permanently lock up your wiki if everything wasn't exactly 
right. Maybe it's been updated since then.

It works on Quinoid for me now - great stuff!

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

@Tony and anyone interested in GEO.

I've just posted quinoid-v-0-08-190316a-GEO.apk. 
(https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.8alpha)  I tried 
looking through the forum for the GEO TW file you wanted to use, but of 
course couldn't find it.

This apk *may* allow you to do your GEO activities. When the activity is 
performed, there is allegedly a pop-up requesting permission. I can not 
test any of this because (1) I couldn't find your recommended file (2) The 
emulator doesn't emulate GEO (I think) and (3) I don't have a physical 
device with the prerequisite OS and physical properties. So please let me 
know if these settings have made any difference.

I also need to know if this crashes anyone's implementation. I had one 
crash on my emulator, but on a second pass it was fine. So it could just 
have been an emulator thing. The crash would occur when you first enter 
browsing, if it relates to the code changes. And crash before that is 
something else.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> It is fine with 1190313a.apk
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 2:02:06 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I'm concerned about one of your comments. On the opening page of Q, on 
>> the actionbar, there should be a little plus sign (+) icon there. Is it 
>> showing up?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 7:19:40 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Sorry, it took time to get back to this.
>>>
>>> I have upgraded to 1190313a.apk. It seems to be working well. Although 
>>> it did add the help page a second time.
>>>
>>> I could send you the screenshot you requested but I would have to 
>>> retro-grade. Let me know if you still want me to do that.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 1:41:18 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:

 Hi Tony,

 On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 7:08:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Settings  > Apps > Quinoid > Uninstall
> App Installed 190312b
>

 The "b" version matches (I think) the original version you first had on 
 your machine, but not the "a" version you installed earlier today. 
 Something about the key selection is different between a and b. Something 
 I 
 need to figure out. For most people (I think) the "b" should match what 
 they have on their machine.
  

> What is unassigned key?
> When the app was running (not currently) It was a button in the 
> Quinoid list, No + Button was present at the top

 ... 

> I had no + Menu, only  "Find TW File" button


  There's no + button on the top of your list page? I can't imagine how 
 that could happen. Is it possible to take a screenshot? 
 Different machines have different gestures for screenshots. I think 
 it's usually a palm swipe.


 I updated Quinoid on My Android 8.0 and It all updated correctly, the 
> resources work, but since there was no feedback I did install todo now 
> twice by mistake.
>

 Yes. I need to add some feedback (probably a quick pop-up message) to 
 that process.

 Thanks!
 -- Mark

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[TonyM]

Mark,

It is fine with 1190313a.apk

Regards
Tony

On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 2:02:06 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm concerned about one of your comments. On the opening page of Q, on the 
> actionbar, there should be a little plus sign (+) icon there. Is it showing 
> up?
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 7:19:40 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Sorry, it took time to get back to this.
>>
>> I have upgraded to 1190313a.apk. It seems to be working well. Although it 
>> did add the help page a second time.
>>
>> I could send you the screenshot you requested but I would have to 
>> retro-grade. Let me know if you still want me to do that.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 1:41:18 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 7:08:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:

 Settings  > Apps > Quinoid > Uninstall
 App Installed 190312b

>>>
>>> The "b" version matches (I think) the original version you first had on 
>>> your machine, but not the "a" version you installed earlier today. 
>>> Something about the key selection is different between a and b. Something I 
>>> need to figure out. For most people (I think) the "b" should match what 
>>> they have on their machine.
>>>  
>>>
 What is unassigned key?
 When the app was running (not currently) It was a button in the Quinoid 
 list, No + Button was present at the top
>>>
>>> ... 
>>>
 I had no + Menu, only  "Find TW File" button
>>>
>>>
>>>  There's no + button on the top of your list page? I can't imagine how 
>>> that could happen. Is it possible to take a screenshot? 
>>> Different machines have different gestures for screenshots. I think it's 
>>> usually a palm swipe.
>>>
>>>
>>> I updated Quinoid on My Android 8.0 and It all updated correctly, the 
 resources work, but since there was no feedback I did install todo now 
 twice by mistake.

>>>
>>> Yes. I need to add some feedback (probably a quick pop-up message) to 
>>> that process.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm concerned about one of your comments. On the opening page of Q, on the 
actionbar, there should be a little plus sign (+) icon there. Is it showing 
up?

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 7:19:40 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Sorry, it took time to get back to this.
>
> I have upgraded to 1190313a.apk. It seems to be working well. Although it 
> did add the help page a second time.
>
> I could send you the screenshot you requested but I would have to 
> retro-grade. Let me know if you still want me to do that.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 1:41:18 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 7:08:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Settings  > Apps > Quinoid > Uninstall
>>> App Installed 190312b
>>>
>>
>> The "b" version matches (I think) the original version you first had on 
>> your machine, but not the "a" version you installed earlier today. 
>> Something about the key selection is different between a and b. Something I 
>> need to figure out. For most people (I think) the "b" should match what 
>> they have on their machine.
>>  
>>
>>> What is unassigned key?
>>> When the app was running (not currently) It was a button in the Quinoid 
>>> list, No + Button was present at the top
>>
>> ... 
>>
>>> I had no + Menu, only  "Find TW File" button
>>
>>
>>  There's no + button on the top of your list page? I can't imagine how 
>> that could happen. Is it possible to take a screenshot? 
>> Different machines have different gestures for screenshots. I think it's 
>> usually a palm swipe.
>>
>>
>> I updated Quinoid on My Android 8.0 and It all updated correctly, the 
>>> resources work, but since there was no feedback I did install todo now 
>>> twice by mistake.
>>>
>>
>> Yes. I need to add some feedback (probably a quick pop-up message) to 
>> that process.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[TonyM]

Mark,

Sorry, it took time to get back to this.

I have upgraded to 1190313a.apk. It seems to be working well. Although it 
did add the help page a second time.

I could send you the screenshot you requested but I would have to 
retro-grade. Let me know if you still want me to do that.

Regards
Tony



On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 1:41:18 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 7:08:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Settings  > Apps > Quinoid > Uninstall
>> App Installed 190312b
>>
>
> The "b" version matches (I think) the original version you first had on 
> your machine, but not the "a" version you installed earlier today. 
> Something about the key selection is different between a and b. Something I 
> need to figure out. For most people (I think) the "b" should match what 
> they have on their machine.
>  
>
>> What is unassigned key?
>> When the app was running (not currently) It was a button in the Quinoid 
>> list, No + Button was present at the top
>
> ... 
>
>> I had no + Menu, only  "Find TW File" button
>
>
>  There's no + button on the top of your list page? I can't imagine how 
> that could happen. Is it possible to take a screenshot? 
> Different machines have different gestures for screenshots. I think it's 
> usually a palm swipe.
>
>
> I updated Quinoid on My Android 8.0 and It all updated correctly, the 
>> resources work, but since there was no feedback I did install todo now 
>> twice by mistake.
>>
>
> Yes. I need to add some feedback (probably a quick pop-up message) to that 
> process.
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

The phone is a Motorola.

On Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:33:07 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Well, more mysterious.
>
> Possibly G. decided to roll back their permissions requirements between v7 
> and v8 ? I doubt that Android retains permissions after uninstalls. That 
> would be a security breach, I think. 
>
> So you tried 313a again? If you closed it out entirely (via the app 
> manager, force close perhaps) and restarted, did the resource list populate?
>
> I'm trying to understand if I've done anything that would completely 
> disappear the resource list, of if it's just an edge case.
>
> Do you have a Google-made phone or other? Google makes (or works closely 
> with) the Nexus, Pixel, and two of the HTC phones. I ask because G. has 
> certain rules for Android, but manufacturers (rhymes with Ham-Hung) can 
> bend those rules. The bent rules may actually work better for consumers.
>
> Thanks again!
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:32:02 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Nothing asked for extra permissions. Not on 313a or 312b.
>>
>> TBH I am totally unclear if that is because I granted them on Q. before 
>> (i.e. its privileges are set in some setting file already regardless) or 
>> because the install natively does it anew?
>>
>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Did the 313a version prompt you for permissions
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S.

I took more care second time round to address you better. Takes time.

I'm still trying to get clear. 

313a DOES work but the Resources don't show for me unless you close Quinoid 
and re-open it.

J.

On Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:33:07 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Well, more mysterious.
>
> Possibly G. decided to roll back their permissions requirements between v7 
> and v8 ? I doubt that Android retains permissions after uninstalls. That 
> would be a security breach, I think. 
>
> So you tried 313a again? If you closed it out entirely (via the app 
> manager, force close perhaps) and restarted, did the resource list populate?
>
> I'm trying to understand if I've done anything that would completely 
> disappear the resource list, of if it's just an edge case.
>
> Do you have a Google-made phone or other? Google makes (or works closely 
> with) the Nexus, Pixel, and two of the HTC phones. I ask because G. has 
> certain rules for Android, but manufacturers (rhymes with Ham-Hung) can 
> bend those rules. The bent rules may actually work better for consumers.
>
> Thanks again!
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:32:02 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Nothing asked for extra permissions. Not on 313a or 312b.
>>
>> TBH I am totally unclear if that is because I granted them on Q. before 
>> (i.e. its privileges are set in some setting file already regardless) or 
>> because the install natively does it anew?
>>
>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Did the 313a version prompt you for permissions
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Well, more mysterious.

Possibly G. decided to roll back their permissions requirements between v7 
and v8 ? I doubt that Android retains permissions after uninstalls. That 
would be a security breach, I think. 

So you tried 313a again? If you closed it out entirely (via the app 
manager, force close perhaps) and restarted, did the resource list populate?

I'm trying to understand if I've done anything that would completely 
disappear the resource list, of if it's just an edge case.

Do you have a Google-made phone or other? Google makes (or works closely 
with) the Nexus, Pixel, and two of the HTC phones. I ask because G. has 
certain rules for Android, but manufacturers (rhymes with Ham-Hung) can 
bend those rules. The bent rules may actually work better for consumers.

Thanks again!
-- Mark

On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:32:02 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Nothing asked for extra permissions. Not on 313a or 312b.
>
> TBH I am totally unclear if that is because I granted them on Q. before 
> (i.e. its privileges are set in some setting file already regardless) or 
> because the install natively does it anew?
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Did the 313a version prompt you for permissions
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Nothing asked for extra permissions. Not on 313a or 312b.

TBH I am totally unclear if that is because I granted them on Q. before 
(i.e. its privileges are set in some setting file already regardless) or 
because the install natively does it anew?

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Did the 313a version prompt you for permissions
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark

I'll do again to double check and report back on specifics.

Josiah

On Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:43:07 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi TT,
>
> Feedback is always useful, though sometimes painful.
>
> Did the 313a version prompt you for permissions?
>
> The missing resources is worrisome. However, did you happen to check the 
> Document/TwFile directory? It's possible that the resources were there, but 
> hadn't loaded into the list. In theory, after you give permissions, the 
> system will have the power to create the directory and load the resources. 
> But if it didn't ask you for permissions, then that might not happen. 
> Completely shutting down Q and restarting might have activated the 
> resources without installing 312. So knowing if it prompted for permissions 
> would be useful. 
>
> Having it empty the Documents/TwFiles during uninstall is surprising. In 
> theory, anything in public directory should remain after an uninstall.
>
> Thank you!
> -- Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 7:05:32 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Mark S.
>>
>> This is just an FYI from Andy 8.0.0 on a Motorola something. No need to 
>> respond.
>>
>> I did Housekeeping to remove loads of test wiki and clean-up... and clean 
>> reinstall.
>>
>> That illustrates that pathing is taken over on Android now.
>>
>> 1 -- Uninstalled Quinoid --- NOTE this deleted all the TW in "TwFiles" 
>> but not the JSON of settings nor the folder.
>>
>> 2 -- Deleted "TwFiles" folder including the JSON.
>>
>> 3 -- Deleted other test wiki all over the directory shop I'd messed with.
>>
>> 4 -- Tried to install (on Andy 8) 313a apk. Installed. But Resources were 
>> EMPTY.
>>
>> 5 -- Uninstall 313a fully. Install 312b. Installed as expected. Resources 
>> are there.
>>
>> FYI the install directory for auto wiki is INTERNAL storage in 
>> "Documents/TwFiles" (/storage/emulated/0/Documents/TwFiles) on my thingie. 
>> Appropriate and well workable. I have NO idea how they get there rather 
>> than anywhere else. I'm content though.
>>
>> I just thought you might like to hear of a case re-done from zero?
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi TT,

Feedback is always useful, though sometimes painful.

Did the 313a version prompt you for permissions?

The missing resources is worrisome. However, did you happen to check the 
Document/TwFile directory? It's possible that the resources were there, but 
hadn't loaded into the list. In theory, after you give permissions, the 
system will have the power to create the directory and load the resources. 
But if it didn't ask you for permissions, then that might not happen. 
Completely shutting down Q and restarting might have activated the 
resources without installing 312. So knowing if it prompted for permissions 
would be useful. 

Having it empty the Documents/TwFiles during uninstall is surprising. In 
theory, anything in public directory should remain after an uninstall.

Thank you!
-- Mark





On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 7:05:32 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S.
>
> This is just an FYI from Andy 8.0.0 on a Motorola something. No need to 
> respond.
>
> I did Housekeeping to remove loads of test wiki and clean-up... and clean 
> reinstall.
>
> That illustrates that pathing is taken over on Android now.
>
> 1 -- Uninstalled Quinoid --- NOTE this deleted all the TW in "TwFiles" but 
> not the JSON of settings nor the folder.
>
> 2 -- Deleted "TwFiles" folder including the JSON.
>
> 3 -- Deleted other test wiki all over the directory shop I'd messed with.
>
> 4 -- Tried to install (on Andy 8) 313a apk. Installed. But Resources were 
> EMPTY.
>
> 5 -- Uninstall 313a fully. Install 312b. Installed as expected. Resources 
> are there.
>
> FYI the install directory for auto wiki is INTERNAL storage in 
> "Documents/TwFiles" (/storage/emulated/0/Documents/TwFiles) on my thingie. 
> Appropriate and well workable. I have NO idea how they get there rather 
> than anywhere else. I'm content though.
>
> I just thought you might like to hear of a case re-done from zero?
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S.

This is just an FYI from Andy 8.0.0 on a Motorola something. No need to 
respond.

I did Housekeeping to remove loads of test wiki and clean-up... and clean 
reinstall.

That illustrates that pathing is taken over on Android now.

1 -- Uninstalled Quinoid --- NOTE this deleted all the TW in "TwFiles" but 
not the JSON of settings nor the folder.

2 -- Deleted "TwFiles" folder including the JSON.

3 -- Deleted other test wiki all over the directory shop I'd messed with.

4 -- Tried to install (on Andy 8) 313a apk. Installed. But Resources were 
EMPTY.

5 -- Uninstall 313a fully. Install 312b. Installed as expected. Resources 
are there.

FYI the install directory for auto wiki is INTERNAL storage in 
"Documents/TwFiles" (/storage/emulated/0/Documents/TwFiles) on my thingie. 
Appropriate and well workable. I have NO idea how they get there rather 
than anywhere else. I'm content though.

I just thought you might like to hear of a case re-done from zero?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

For email users  I updated my last post concerning Clipping in Quinoid.

On Thursday, 14 March 2019 13:16:49 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mark S.
>
> Regarding the Clip function (using "b" apk) ... I tested as follows ...
>
> 1 -- With both Quinoid  and Chrome "open" -- i.e. both started--though one 
> is hidden when you use the other one.
>
> 2 -- With Q. closed. Chrome clip and close. Open Q.
>
> Both scenarios worked for me. The clip is there.
>
> Multiple clips in one session in a browser are added to one tiddler. 
> That is great on sites like YouTube where just clicking "Share" will add 
> addresses of videos,one per line.
>
> However, I only ever get ONE Q. clip in the Capture wiki. If I do a second 
> "clip session" it overwrites the first? 
> Or am I misunderstanding something?
>
> *UPDATE: Stupid me! I overlooked that putting a clip into your Capture TW 
> does not save it. You need to explicitly click Save!*
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>>
>> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>>
>> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
>> 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S.

Regarding the Clip function (using "b" apk) ... I tested as follows ...

1 -- With both Quinoid  and Chrome "open" -- i.e. both started--though one 
is hidden when you use the other one.

2 -- With Q. closed. Chrome clip and close. Open Q.

Both scenarios worked for me. The clip is there.

Multiple clips in one session in a browser are added to one tiddler. 
That is great on sites like YouTube where just clicking "Share" will add 
addresses of a videos,one per line.

However, I only ever get ONE Q. clip in the Capture wiki. If I do a second 
"clip session" it overwrites the first? 
Or am I misunderstanding something?

Best wishes
Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>
> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>
> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S.

I tried adding a Resource to bring in one of my own wiki. It worked well.

That feature is extremely useful!

The only issue was editing JSON accurately on a tiny screen. So I just used 
an Android JSON editor which made it a breeze.

Many thanks
Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
> download. 
> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Yeah, I get that a lot ...

I've just uploaded quinoid-v0-0-8-190313a.apk to the release. This 
(hopefully) makes permissions handling better and will avoid the "I can't 
install" messages. Hopefully. It also adds a brief little message after you 
click on a resource to download so that you have some clue what's happening.

Onward,

-- Mark

On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 12:36:06 PM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mark
>
> Very, very good work. Kudos.
>
> Android 8. "b" version apk.
>
> Seamless overwrite install.
>
> Only fly in the ointment in on this  on Resources ...
>
> .[image: Screenshot_20190313-202239_2.png]
>
>
> I get no indication on click it worked (which it did) so ended up with 3 
> versions of JD.
>
> Best wishes & thanks
> Josiah
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:12:40 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
>> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
>> download. 
>> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
>> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
>> the Readme.
>>
>> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
>> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>>
>> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and 
>> testing was very light. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>>
>> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>>
>> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
>> 
>>
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark

Very, very good work. Kudos.

Android 8. "b" version apk.

Seamless overwrite install.

Only fly in the ointment in on this  on Resources ...

.[image: Screenshot_20190313-202239_2.png]


I get no indication on click it worked (which it did) so ended up with 3 
versions of JD.

Best wishes & thanks
Josiah



On Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:12:40 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
> download. 
> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
> the Readme.
>
> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>
> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and testing 
> was very light. 
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>
> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>
> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Subi 54]

Thanks, it worked.

On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 5:55:36 PM UTC+5:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Subi 54,
>  Open the app info and grant the storage permission!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 2:51:42 PM UTC+3:30, Subi 54 wrote:
>>
>> On 8.1.0, new install kept giving `Quinoid keeps stopping`.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Mohammad]

Subi 54,
 Open the app info and grant the storage permission!

--Mohammad

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> On 8.1.0, new install kept giving `Quinoid keeps stopping`.

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[JD]

Hi Mark,

Reporting that this installed perfectly for me, without the need to set 
permissions nor needing to uninstall the previous version. Android 8.0.0 
Nexus6P

And thanks again for your amazing app!

-jd

On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:12:40 AM UTC+9, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
> download. 
> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
> the Readme.
>
> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>
> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and testing 
> was very light. 
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>
> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>
> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Watt]

Hi Mark,

I got the json edit to work. 

Some feedback;
Closing Quinoid via the '3 dots menu > exit' and then reopening it doesn't 
refresh the file list or the Resources (json) list for me.

Closing Quinoid via the Android method, using Home button, then clear recent 
apps and then reopen Quinoid does refresh both wiki list and Resources list.

I used this line for the json prerelease edit;

{"id":"https:\/\/tiddlywiki.com\/prerelease\/empty","title":"Pre (PRE 
Release)","description":"An empty edition of the PRE-release from the 
TiddlyWiki site.","filestem":"prerelease"}

Success!

I now notice that I must have tapped on 'Help' 3 times and downloaded 3 copies 
of the Help file, all of which appear in the file list after the full refresh. 
I do need help but it seems duplicate resource downloads all appear with the 
same names in Quinoid's list and only have the timestamp to differentiate them 
in the TWfiles folder. Confusion might reign! Maybe something to add to your 
'complications' list?

Anyway, it now works perfectly for me and keeps getting better. Big thanks.






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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Watt]

Hi Mark - successful here, Android 7.
Allowed install from unknown sources.
Installed over the top of existing Quinoid. Message 'do you want to update an 
existing package?' - yes.
Storage and location permissions were still on from previous version.

Opened fine with my file list still there.
Wikis seem to be working as before.

Went to 3 dots>Resources and added them all. All downloaded and were added to 
the list. All opened ok.

Checked the TWfiles folder and all there, including the json file.

Edited the json file with this line,

{"id":"https:\/\/tiddlywiki.com\/prerelease\/empty.html","title":"Empty (PRE 
Release)","description":"An empty edition of the PRE-release from the 
TiddlyWiki site.","filestem":"empty"},

Reloaded Quinoid but the prerelease isn't listed in Resources. The others still 
are. That's the only thing that's tripped me up so far, so will try again, 
otherwise 100% success!

'Shares' still working well too.

Hope this helps, thanks a lot for this great app.

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Mohammad]

Further input

-Open app information
-Manually add permission to storage

-Open the app
now it is WORKING!

--Mohammad


On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 7:20:02 AM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Android 9
>
> Uninstall previous version. Install new v-0-0-8a
> Open the app
>
> Small white widow appears
>
> Quinoid keeps stopping
>
> App info
> Close app
>
> NOT working!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 2:42:40 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
>> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
>> download. 
>> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
>> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
>> the Readme.
>>
>> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
>> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>>
>> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and 
>> testing was very light. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>>
>> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>>
>> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
>> 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[Mohammad]

Android 9

Uninstall previous version. Install new v-0-0-8a
Open the app

Small white widow appears

Quinoid keeps stopping

App info
Close app

NOT working!

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 2:42:40 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
> download. 
> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
> the Readme.
>
> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>
> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and testing 
> was very light. 
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>
> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>
> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Tony,

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 7:08:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Settings  > Apps > Quinoid > Uninstall
> App Installed 190312b
>

The "b" version matches (I think) the original version you first had on 
your machine, but not the "a" version you installed earlier today. 
Something about the key selection is different between a and b. Something I 
need to figure out. For most people (I think) the "b" should match what 
they have on their machine.
 

> What is unassigned key?
> When the app was running (not currently) It was a button in the Quinoid 
> list, No + Button was present at the top

... 

> I had no + Menu, only  "Find TW File" button


 There's no + button on the top of your list page? I can't imagine how that 
could happen. Is it possible to take a screenshot? 
Different machines have different gestures for screenshots. I think it's 
usually a palm swipe.


I updated Quinoid on My Android 8.0 and It all updated correctly, the 
> resources work, but since there was no feedback I did install todo now 
> twice by mistake.
>

Yes. I need to add some feedback (probably a quick pop-up message) to that 
process.

Thanks!
-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[TonyM]

Mark, Comments in line


On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 12:20:59 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I appreciate your feedback!
>

And I your work 

>
> Did it force you to install a new version? 
>

I could not do my normal click on release and install over. I had to remove 
and install fresh

>
> I used a different machine, but (I thought) the usual key to do the 
> release. Just in case I messed up, I've just put a new release generated 
> with the original machine. But if everyone reports they "have" to 
> uninstall/install, then I'll know something else is going on.
>
 Once again installing from the apk I was questioend about update, 
proceeding I got the Message 
*App not installed*
*The package conflicts with an existing package by the same name.*

Settings  > Apps > Quinoid > Uninstall
App Installed 190312b
Unfortunately Quinoid has stopped, Open again, App keeps stopping
After a little while I added the permissions manually, storage and Location 
were in the list.
Opened Quinoid and it seems to be working

Regards
Tony



> Does it ask you for location permission? I haven't changed anything re geo 
> since the last update, where I tried to add some generic location 
> permissions. It's something else I need to research.
>

No it does not. I was used to adding this myself. 

>
> What is unassigned key?
>
When the app was running (not currently) It was a button in the Quinoid 
list, No + Button was present at the top
 

>
> Which method are you using to look for files? The "+" button, or the menu? 
> I think the latter. For the latter, on vsn 7, your files probably need to 
> be in a public space, either the downloads directory, or the documents 
> directory. For using the "+" button, you should be able to navigate to 
> "sourced" files such as pinned files provided by Google Drive.
>
I had no + Menu, only  "Find TW File" button

>
> Can you test the new "Resources" option from the menu? It should allow you 
> to download a file of your choice to somewhere public on your machine. The 
> path should be something like .../Documents/TwFiles/ where the ... will 
> depend on your machine. Once you have downloaded a file, you should (I 
> think) be able to use the "Find files" to find and add the downloaded file 
> (except it should already be in your list, but it's the principle I'm 
> concerned with).
>
No Resources option
 

>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
You are welcome.

Sorry to present such broad bugs on V7 android.

I updated Quinoid on My Android 8.0 and It all updated correctly, the 
resources work, but since there was no feedback I did install todo now 
twice by mistake.



Regards
Tony 

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Tony,

I appreciate your feedback!

Did it force you to install a new version? 

I used a different machine, but (I thought) the usual key to do the 
release. Just in case I messed up, I've just put a new release generated 
with the original machine. But if everyone reports they "have" to 
uninstall/install, then I'll know something else is going on.

Does it ask you for location permission? I haven't changed anything re geo 
since the last update, where I tried to add some generic location 
permissions. It's something else I need to research.

What is unassigned key?

Which method are you using to look for files? The "+" button, or the menu? 
I think the latter. For the latter, on vsn 7, your files probably need to 
be in a public space, either the downloads directory, or the documents 
directory. For using the "+" button, you should be able to navigate to 
"sourced" files such as pinned files provided by Google Drive.

Can you test the new "Resources" option from the menu? It should allow you 
to download a file of your choice to somewhere public on your machine. The 
path should be something like .../Documents/TwFiles/ where the ... will 
depend on your machine. Once you have downloaded a file, you should (I 
think) be able to use the "Find files" to find and add the downloaded file 
(except it should already be in your list, but it's the principle I'm 
concerned with).

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 5:15:39 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Installed on my android 7.0. I had to uninstall the previous version 
> first, and manualy add the storage permission. I am not so sure now how to 
> add location permissions.
>
> I can only see "Find TW File" Browses storage,  and "Unassigned Key" - 
> does nothing, in the menu
> I no longer seem able to select html files even if I can find them in 
> "Find TW File"
>
> As a Result I can't test any further.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 10:12:40 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
>> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
>> download. 
>> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
>> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
>> the Readme.
>>
>> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
>> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>>
>> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and 
>> testing was very light. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>>
>> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>>
>> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
>> 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.8alpha Downloadable, Configurable Resources

[TonyM]

Mark,

Installed on my android 7.0. I had to uninstall the previous version first, 
and manualy add the storage permission. I am not so sure now how to add 
location permissions.

I can only see "Find TW File" Browses storage,  and "Unassigned Key" - does 
nothing, in the menu
I no longer seem able to select html files even if I can find them in "Find 
TW File"

As a Result I can't test any further.

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 10:12:40 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> This version adds a menu item "Resources" that activates an activity page 
> from whence a user can select a variety of existing resources (TW files) to 
> download. 
> The activity page is, in turn, driven by a configurable file, allowing 
> advanced users to share their own curated selection of TW sites. Please see 
> the Readme.
>
> The referenced resources include Todo Now, Expense Tracker, Quinoid 
> Readme, and Empty Editions.
>
> As always, consider this highly alpha. I was kind of worn out, and testing 
> was very light. 
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> Readme: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01
>
> Release: https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases
>
> quinoid-v0-0-8a-190312a.apk 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks for the feedback Tony. It's possible that Android didn't have the 
"ask for permissions" in place yet at A7. Or the technique I'm using is 
broken for 7 but works for others. The problem is that Guugle keeps 
changing things up. I spend about 90% of my time just studying approaches 
to various problems.

The sharing is definitely just for text right now. I imagine that, among 
other things, there would need to be coding to prevent over-sized documents 
from crashing the app altogether. 

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 10:11:32 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I remember getting asked about storage permissions in the past (8.0.0) but 
> I also upgraded the existing install, by installing the next version 
> without removing the last and this may have retained the previous 
> permissions.
>
> I have done a fresh install Q 190302a to a fresh android 7.0.0 (I could 
> not download apk on the phone, got a Forbidden Message before download 
> finished) Instead used my desktop connection copy apk to phone. Enable 
> install from Foreign sources, 
>
>
>1. Ok Installing "Do you want to install this application?, It does 
>not require any special access" > Install > "App installed" Open > 
>unfortunately Quinoid has stopped Reload? 
>2. Attempted opening from App Draw, similar result, stopped
>   - This seems to be because the permissions were not asked for
>3. Settings > General > Apps > Scroll to Quinoid Press > "No 
>Permissions Granted" Storage and Your location available and selected
>4. Open Quinoid from the app draw now opens Fine
>5. Recent TW (odd TW5GDrive.html is in recent) From my Google Drive, 
>Opened Tiddlywiki and it works well
>6. Quinoid > Download Test > Took time but appeared in List, Found in 
>Documents TwFiles
>7. Dropped another tiddleyWiki into TwFiles , Closed App, Re-opened 
>app, Appears in List
>
> Set lasy Wiki as clp yes
>
>- Shared GitHub Page to Quinoid datestamp tiddler contains working link
>- Selected Text from Google Group Post and Shared with Quinoid text 
>and links in tack Quinoid datestamp tiddler
>- Shared a ToodleDo Task into TiddlyWiki
>- Attempt to share 3gp file, an audio file To Quinoid not available
>- Shared a news item from ABC (Aus) SNipit and Text captured
>
> I will try more share items and document
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 12:58:35 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback!
>>
>> Do you remember if you had to go into permissions on your 8.0 device? Or 
>> did it ask you?
>>
>> In theory it should ask about permissions, but I don't know at what 
>> generation that feature gets activated.
>>
>> Did anyone here get *asked* about storage permissions when they 
>> installed? Obviously I should have been taking better notes ...
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 2:48:25 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just installed Qunioid on my new phone (Android 7.0.0) and and it 
>>> failed, until I went  into app permissions and granted storage and Location.
>>>
>>> Yes, I seem to of moved from Android 8.0.0 to 7.0.0 I bought a new LG 
>>> V20 for a measly $268 AUD which is a fantastic price but it happens to be 
>>> the 910 not the 990ds model I originally had. I am yet to see  if the 
>>> android version will update, but now I have a second platform on which to 
>>> test Quinoid.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 4 March 2019 07:53:17 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:

 Looking great mark

 Sharing a link into tw from the google group conversation - the browser 
 address bar is fab.

 Love your work
 Tony



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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

[TonyM]

Mark,

I remember getting asked about storage permissions in the past (8.0.0) but 
I also upgraded the existing install, by installing the next version 
without removing the last and this may have retained the previous 
permissions.

I have done a fresh install Q 190302a to a fresh android 7.0.0 (I could not 
download apk on the phone, got a Forbidden Message before download 
finished) Instead used my desktop connection copy apk to phone. Enable 
install from Foreign sources, 


   1. Ok Installing "Do you want to install this application?, It does not 
   require any special access" > Install > "App installed" Open > 
   unfortunately Quinoid has stopped Reload? 
   2. Attempted opening from App Draw, similar result, stopped
  - This seems to be because the permissions were not asked for
   3. Settings > General > Apps > Scroll to Quinoid Press > "No Permissions 
   Granted" Storage and Your location available and selected
   4. Open Quinoid from the app draw now opens Fine
   5. Recent TW (odd TW5GDrive.html is in recent) From my Google Drive, 
   Opened Tiddlywiki and it works well
   6. Quinoid > Download Test > Took time but appeared in List, Found in 
   Documents TwFiles
   7. Dropped another tiddleyWiki into TwFiles , Closed App, Re-opened app, 
   Appears in List

Set lasy Wiki as clp yes

   - Shared GitHub Page to Quinoid datestamp tiddler contains working link
   - Selected Text from Google Group Post and Shared with Quinoid text and 
   links in tack Quinoid datestamp tiddler
   - Shared a ToodleDo Task into TiddlyWiki
   - Attempt to share 3gp file, an audio file To Quinoid not available
   - Shared a news item from ABC (Aus) SNipit and Text captured

I will try more share items and document

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 12:58:35 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
>
> Do you remember if you had to go into permissions on your 8.0 device? Or 
> did it ask you?
>
> In theory it should ask about permissions, but I don't know at what 
> generation that feature gets activated.
>
> Did anyone here get *asked* about storage permissions when they installed? 
> Obviously I should have been taking better notes ...
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 2:48:25 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just installed Qunioid on my new phone (Android 7.0.0) and and it 
>> failed, until I went  into app permissions and granted storage and Location.
>>
>> Yes, I seem to of moved from Android 8.0.0 to 7.0.0 I bought a new LG V20 
>> for a measly $268 AUD which is a fantastic price but it happens to be the 
>> 910 not the 990ds model I originally had. I am yet to see  if the android 
>> version will update, but now I have a second platform on which to test 
>> Quinoid.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 4 March 2019 07:53:17 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking great mark
>>>
>>> Sharing a link into tw from the google group conversation - the browser 
>>> address bar is fab.
>>>
>>> Love your work
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks for your feedback!

Do you remember if you had to go into permissions on your 8.0 device? Or 
did it ask you?

In theory it should ask about permissions, but I don't know at what 
generation that feature gets activated.

Did anyone here get *asked* about storage permissions when they installed? 
Obviously I should have been taking better notes ...

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 2:48:25 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just installed Qunioid on my new phone (Android 7.0.0) and and it 
> failed, until I went  into app permissions and granted storage and Location.
>
> Yes, I seem to of moved from Android 8.0.0 to 7.0.0 I bought a new LG V20 
> for a measly $268 AUD which is a fantastic price but it happens to be the 
> 910 not the 990ds model I originally had. I am yet to see  if the android 
> version will update, but now I have a second platform on which to test 
> Quinoid.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Monday, 4 March 2019 07:53:17 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Looking great mark
>>
>> Sharing a link into tw from the google group conversation - the browser 
>> address bar is fab.
>>
>> Love your work
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

[TonyM]

Hi,

I just installed Qunioid on my new phone (Android 7.0.0) and and it failed, 
until I went  into app permissions and granted storage and Location.

Yes, I seem to of moved from Android 8.0.0 to 7.0.0 I bought a new LG V20 
for a measly $268 AUD which is a fantastic price but it happens to be the 
910 not the 990ds model I originally had. I am yet to see  if the android 
version will update, but now I have a second platform on which to test 
Quinoid.

Regards
Tony



On Monday, 4 March 2019 07:53:17 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Looking great mark
>
> Sharing a link into tw from the google group conversation - the browser 
> address bar is fab.
>
> Love your work
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Fully agree.

I think the long-press is good.

Re greying--it never occurred to me :-)

Best wishes
Josiah

On Sunday, 3 March 2019 18:58:12 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The Brw and Clp give visual reminders of which items have been selected 
> for browsing or as clipboards. I greyed them out to indicate that they 
> can't be clicked here. If my rusty memory serves, I chose to go this route 
> with the long-press because if I made it edit in place (1. people would 
> always be accidentally making the wrong choices 2. I lose the long-press 
> ability) I felt putting it all under long-press was useful because that way 
> not everything relating to a tiddler file would have to appear on the list. 
> For instance, the "remove" option is inside the long-press menu where it 
> won't be accidentally invoked by someone just trying to browse up or down 
> the list.
>
> I tend to be utilitarian in my approach, figuring that the aesthetics can 
> be tweaked later after I know the base technology is somewhat solid.
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 8:52:59 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Mark S.
>>
>> Just started looking at it. Small design issue. Perhaps it should not 
>> indicate checkboxes in the main menu since you can't click them? They are 
>> set elsewhere.
>>
>> [image: Pixel20190303_174422.jpg]
>>
>>
>> Just a thought
>> Josiah 
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

[TonyM]

Looking great mark

Sharing a link into tw from the google group conversation - the browser address 
bar is fab.

Love your work
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

[Watt]

Hi Mark
No, it didn't ask for any permissions here. In my case I had to allow install 
from unknown source, install, then go back to settings and give storage 
permission. I gave location permission too but I doubt you've had time to 
wizard that.

Downloading empty test TWs works and files open in quinoid. (Found the empty 
files outside of Quinoid in Documents/Twfiles if anybody else is looking - 
they're named empty and timestamped which is great).

Sharing from a variety of apps works for me. 

If you share from an app but don't look at the share in quinoid immediately, 
and carry on browsing and sharing, clips are added cumulatively to the same 
tiddler. 

If you look at the 'share' on Quinoid before continuing to clip then a new 
tiddler is created.

For me a new tiddler for every 'clip' is better, but others may disagree. You 
are still getting the basic functions working I know, so don't take that as a 
criticism. It works!

Standard 'highlight and share' only shares unformatted plain text. Images, 
audio, video don't share by default at the moment.

However, an rss reader I use offers a 'share source' option and that put the 
html into Quinoid with working links and images. In firefox, 'view page 
source', select all, share to quinoid does the same. Nice!

Everything else is working - I'll keep you posted if I find anything but it's 
looking really good, thanks!

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The Brw and Clp give visual reminders of which items have been selected for 
browsing or as clipboards. I greyed them out to indicate that they can't be 
clicked here. If my rusty memory serves, I chose to go this route with the 
long-press because if I made it edit in place (1. people would always be 
accidentally making the wrong choices 2. I lose the long-press ability) I 
felt putting it all under long-press was useful because that way not 
everything relating to a tiddler file would have to appear on the list. For 
instance, the "remove" option is inside the long-press menu where it won't 
be accidentally invoked by someone just trying to browse up or down the 
list.

I tend to be utilitarian in my approach, figuring that the aesthetics can 
be tweaked later after I know the base technology is somewhat solid.

Thanks!
-- Mark


On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 8:52:59 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mark S.
>
> Just started looking at it. Small design issue. Perhaps it should not 
> indicate checkboxes in the main menu since you can't click them? They are 
> set elsewhere.
>
> [image: Pixel20190303_174422.jpg]
>
>
> Just a thought
> Josiah 
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Watt,

Thanks for letting me know it's working now.

Did it ask you for permissions when you installed, or do you have to 
remember to grant permissions every time you install? If the latter, 
perhaps I need to add some notes to the readme. The problem is (one of the 
problems is) that Android has done some tweaks to the security system for 
every version from 4.4 to 9.

Yes, I didn't think of that. You probably do need to move out of the browse 
pages in order to see the shared text. The reason is that there isn't a 
"live", ongoing connection between the TW file and the environment, because 
TW files are javascript. The live connection is between the environment and 
the Q app. The Q app saves the shares and then inserts them into the TW 
page when it gets loaded. Maybe this should be added to the notes too. It's 
the best I can do at the moment. The main thing is that the shares will 
eventually make their way into the TW file.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 9:34:55 AM UTC-8, Watt wrote:
>
> I got it working Mark, forgot to grant 'storage permission' to the new 
> version! Having done that it opens fine.
> Downloaded a test empty tw- works.
>
> Long press on title lets me check browse andd clip - works.
>
> Sharing works! A bit jumpy, and some quirks but succeeded in sharing 
> tiddly tweeter's comment into a tiddler and a weblink into another. Really, 
> well done. It's very useful.
>
> The shares didn't show until after I'd exited to the list and back but 
> they are there, each in individual, timestamped tiddlers. 
>
> I'm going to play with it some more and come back to you but so far so 
> good! Thanks.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

[Watt]

I got it working Mark, forgot to grant 'storage permission' to the new version! 
Having done that it opens fine.
Downloaded a test empty tw- works.

Long press on title lets me check browse andd clip - works.

Sharing works! A bit jumpy, and some quirks but succeeded in sharing tiddly 
tweeter's comment into a tiddler and a weblink into another. Really, well done. 
It's very useful.

The shares didn't show until after I'd exited to the list and back but they are 
there, each in individual, timestamped tiddlers. 

I'm going to play with it some more and come back to you but so far so good! 
Thanks.

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S.

This is just a comment--I'm neutral on the solution. 
The question: With advent of clippo-function is does the install need a 
Help Wiki built in? Or some link to instructions? 

At the moment I find myself having to read notes via my desktop to 
understand what to do on my dumb-arse-phone.

A dopo.
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid 0.0.7alpha - Sharing. Auto-loading.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S.

Just started looking at it. Small design issue. Perhaps it should not 
indicate checkboxes in the main menu since you can't click them? They are 
set elsewhere.

[image: Pixel20190303_174422.jpg]


Just a thought
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Once again Android is making me alter plans. I'm back to saving to an external 
(not private) dir. This time it will be a
subdir of a documents folder. I don't know if it will be on the actual external 
drive or not. One feature of this 
arrangement is that any files added to the directory will be automatically 
added to the Q list, if not already there.

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Watt]

Quinoid is the OS, List is the start menu, TW is the GUI, plugins are the apps?

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

It occurred to me that if you had a configuration directory, with setup 
files and icons, you could essentially make your own TW-driven app.

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On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:11:50 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mark S.
>
> This is *not* a request for you to do anything. Just thinking out-loud.
>
> The mechanism to "fetch" and auto-install a wiki is great (currently 
> "Download Test").
>
> What I'm wondering is if a user like me can configure a version of the 
> tool so it can fetch a TW I set-up?
>
> Use Case: I'm thinking of students of film who need a start-up wiki. One 
> click setup is better for them, I think.
>
> Just thoughts
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S.

This is *not* a request for you to do anything. Just thinking out-load.

The mechanism to "fetch" and auto-install a wiki is great (currently 
"Download Test").

What I'm wondering is if a user like me can configure a version of the tool 
so it can fetch a TW I set-up?

Use Case: I'm thinking of students of film who need a start-up wiki. One 
click setup is better for them, I think.

Just thoughts
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[TonyM]

Mark,

If it is possible to use the import mechanism as the destination of a share 
to a wiki, it may result in more possibilities. ctrl-V acts like a drop on 
Tiddlywiki and generates an untitled import from the clipboard. If a json 
or tid file were pasted perhaps it would allow import. I same ways it makes 
sense that sharing into tiddlywiki is a tiddler creation process, and if it 
is a single or set of tiddlers to allow the import mechanism to work. If 
someone pastes inside a text area it will go there, otherwise it perhaps 
should trigger the import mechanism (Which itself pastes into the temporary 
$:/import tiddler)

Also the import process is open to manipulation by designers.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 06:28:37 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> So I think I've decided on a design direction. I'm going to give up on 
> downloading to external drives, since Android doesn't want to give me 
> accurate information about them. Instead downloads will go to an internal 
> app directory. Because they're internal, it will be possible to scan them 
> at boot-up and add them to the view list, in case Q was closed when the 
> download-complete notice came in. People can still use other mechanisms to 
> download wherever Android allows them to and then add them via the + or 
> file explorer option. A long press will allow a user to designate a TW file 
> as a target for sharing. When text is shared via other apps, a new tiddler 
> will be created in the target tiddler. Of course, I don't know how long any 
> of this will take, or how much is feasible, but it seems like a fairly good 
> plan, allowing a mix of old-time file browsing and new-time application 
> driven behaviour. 
>
> -- Mark
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[TonyM]

Mark,

My data plan is faster than Wifi and I normally have no complaints, However 
on Wifi for my test , and just entering tiddlywiki.com/empty now seems to 
take forever. I will see if I can get better performance and retest.

Empty files open OK on my desktop, znd in the mobile FireFox

The stub file is disappeared and I now have a link to one of the empty 
files so perhaps patience was needed.

I have a 64mb SD Card but also 64mb Internal storage (LG V20). Downloads 
occur to the subfolder in the download/tw-files I am not sure how the SD  
is formatted but I have moved apps to it, and do not seem to have any 
limitations.

Perhaps you miss understand me, I only mean swipe left back to the Quinoid 
Wiki list, no reference to another browser, swipe right to the open wikis.

Thanks so much for your work on this. I will continue to try and pushit to 
access oneDtive, Google Drive, Dropbox etc.. I only wish we had a way to 
lock single file wikis so we could reliably not edit them from two 
locations or two people at once.

Speculation/idea

Since Quinoid is a TiddlyWiki manger for want of a better word, perhaps it 
could write a stub file wikiname.lock.quinoid to the same folder as the 
wiki when a wiki is opened in Quinoid, and Delete it on exit thus another 
browser accessing the wiki across the wire of cloud file sync could see 
Quinoid currently owns the file and may save over it at any moment. If the 
app is cancelled/abended it may fail to delete the file, but it would be a 
simple matter of reopen and gracefully exit. 

I am looking for a way to get a single file wiki test for existence of 
wikiname.lock.* files and respond differently if such a file exists, like 
informing the user it is open elsewhere and entering a read only mode.

By the way, although not well designed for Mobile, I have succeeded in 
opening my 9.3MB GTD wiki on Quinoid, takes <30 seconds to load 

Android 8.0.0 
64GB internal, 64GB SD, 4GB ram, 3GB in use with above wiki, 1 empty.html 
and two others all open
Quinoid 22.64MB used in Internal memory

I did get a couple of sorry Quinoid app stopped, reload. (Opening control 
panel from downloaded empty)

I will continue to report what I observe

Tony




On Monday, 18 February 2019 15:38:22 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Are you on a data plan or WiFi? When you normally open 
> tiddlywiki.com/empty in your browser, how long does it take?
>
> I'm wondering if some combination of a data plan and/or your remoteness 
> from the main TW site may slow things down enough that the items don't 
> immediately appear on your list. Unfortunately, if you navigated away from 
> Q in the mean time, then it may not know how to add the download to the 
> main list. I might have to prioritized persistence of the download manager.
>
> empty-20190218014-17-29.html and empty-20190218014-17-18.html would have 
> been the items downloaded. When you view them in your browser, are they OK?
>
> TIDDLYWIKISTUB7383952824269779 is a stub file typically created when you 
> navigated via the System explorer. I don't think it's the empty file unless 
> it was created when you navigated with the system explorer. In general, you 
> shouldn't be seeing the stub file. The stub files are temporary and get 
> erased when the app reboots. Too hard to diagnose at a distance ;-(
>
> Just to confirm, you say the two empties downloaded to your *internal* 
> download directory? Do you have a SD card, and is it formatted as external 
> or internal memory (Starting 7 (?) you have to tell Android whether you 
> want your card to be formatted as though internal space -- giving more 
> space for apps -- or as external space -- giving more space for shared 
> MP3s, photos, etc.).
>
> I might be able to manage swipe left to leave some day, but swiping from 
> the list into the browser would be much more challenging.
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 7:41:39 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Reviewing now quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a on Android 8.0.0
>>
>> Selecting Download tesat had no feedback so I soon had 2 downloading in 
>> the background. Canceled one in the download manager, it is slow (but thats 
>> ok).
>>
>> Found in the internal memory Download TW-files two empty files
>> empty-20190218014-17-29.html
>> empty-20190218014-17-18.html
>>
>> of 2.17MB in size
>>
>> Oddly I went to use back to close quinoid and I had to press three times 
>> before it exited.
>>
>>
>>- No change to the wiki list, + and browsed to Internal > Downloads 
>>and TW-Files and opened one of the empty files, 
>>- Tap to open from list opens my two existing items and a blank 
>>screen, 
>>- swipe left to open one of my existing wikis, has a 1-3sec display 
>>or white, before it displays (unlike previously) - I think this is an 
>>artifact of the mobile view, material theme, sidebar open.
>>- Empty wiki not appearing after time, but is now in list as 
>>

[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Watt]

Fantastic! If there's anything useful I can contribute say the word. 
Tiddlyclip did actually use exactly that 'designated shared wiki' method. 
Called it docking.
Thanks again for the perseverance!

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

So I think I've decided on a design direction. I'm going to give up on 
downloading to external drives, since Android doesn't want to give me 
accurate information about them. Instead downloads will go to an internal 
app directory. Because they're internal, it will be possible to scan them 
at boot-up and add them to the view list, in case Q was closed when the 
download-complete notice came in. People can still use other mechanisms to 
download wherever Android allows them to and then add them via the + or 
file explorer option. A long press will allow a user to designate a TW file 
as a target for sharing. When text is shared via other apps, a new tiddler 
will be created in the target tiddler. Of course, I don't know how long any 
of this will take, or how much is feasible, but it seems like a fairly good 
plan, allowing a mix of old-time file browsing and new-time application 
driven behaviour. 

-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Since its limited. Since you have to fit in. 

I think "Documents" is better than "Download" as the parent category.

TW working is a document in Androidville.

Just IMO
J.

On Monday, 18 February 2019 19:10:20 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Well, they need to be some place that Q can write to. There's only certain 
> places (libraries) that Android will help the developer find -- for 
> Documents, Download, Images, Music. The days of the Wild West, write 
> anywhere are over. Unless you root your device, of course. Is there 
> somewhere in particular you were thinking of?
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 9:58:07 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Quick note regarding paths.
>>
>> Once Quinoid is up and running can it decide its own default paths?
>>
>> "Download" is fine for starting but auto-downloads from within Quinoid, 
>> once running, do they HAVE to be in a Downloads sub-dir?
>>
>> Just wondering
>> Josiah
>>
>>  Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Watt]

I don't blame you, hope I didn't sound too intents! If you get a chance have a 
look at Orgzly, and try and share some text into it.

I appreciate how much work you've already done on Quinoid, I use it and aTW 
daily so thanks a lot! 

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

It would need to send to a previously designated TW and/or tiddler. Having 
to select from a list of TW's and/or tiddlers would interfere with one's 
concentration, I imagine (or maybe I'm just avoiding the work of writing 
all those dialogs ;-) ).

-- Mark

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 10:22:48 AM UTC-8, Watt wrote:
>
> "What sort of apps would use Q's internal files?"
>
> All of them potentially, but I think I may have explained it badly. It's 
> not Q's internal files but the wiki files that 'intents' would target.
>
> 'All' I'm talking about is the ability to 'share...' to a wiki in Quinoid.
>
> It already works sharing out of a wiki in Quinoid. 
>
> If I highlight some text in a quinoid wiki then Android automatically 
> offers me the option of sharing that text to other apps (a 'broadcast 
> intent'). If I hit 'share...' (next door to copy,translate etc) it asks me 
> to choose the app I want to share to.
>
> Going in the other direction, if I highlight text in almost any other app, 
> Android automatically asks if I want to copy, translate or share that text. 
> If I choose share then I get a selection of apps to share to. Quinoid isn't 
> among them because it isn't set to 'receive intents'.
>
> If Quinoid was adjusted to receive 'implicit intents' as outlined here 
> (scroll down a bit to 'receiving implicit intents';
>
> https://developer.android.com/guide/components/intents-filters#ExampleSend
>
> then, possibly using a dialogue to select which wiki to use in a way 
> similar to Orgzly, a tiddler could receive the text.
>
> Haha! Not much to ask for Mark! 
>
> I'm only trying cackhandedly to explain a bit more clearly. I've no idea 
> how difficult or time consuming it would be to implement. But I hope you 
> can see what I'm on about. Essentially highlight, click share, choose 
> quinoid, choose a wiki, text appears in a tiddler. 
> Similar to BJ's Tiddlyclip but works in Android.
>
> Best
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Watt]

"What sort of apps would use Q's internal files?"

All of them potentially, but I think I may have explained it badly. It's not 
Q's internal files but the wiki files that 'intents' would target.

'All' I'm talking about is the ability to 'share...' to a wiki in Quinoid.

It already works sharing out of a wiki in Quinoid. 

If I highlight some text in a quinoid wiki then Android automatically offers me 
the option of sharing that text to other apps (a 'broadcast intent'). If I hit 
'share...' (next door to copy,translate etc) it asks me to choose the app I 
want to share to.

Going in the other direction, if I highlight text in almost any other app, 
Android automatically asks if I want to copy, translate or share that text. If 
I choose share then I get a selection of apps to share to. Quinoid isn't among 
them because it isn't set to 'receive intents'.

If Quinoid was adjusted to receive 'implicit intents' as outlined here (scroll 
down a bit to 'receiving implicit intents';

https://developer.android.com/guide/components/intents-filters#ExampleSend

then, possibly using a dialogue to select which wiki to use in a way similar to 
Orgzly, a tiddler could receive the text.

Haha! Not much to ask for Mark! 

I'm only trying cackhandedly to explain a bit more clearly. I've no idea how 
difficult or time consuming it would be to implement. But I hope you can see 
what I'm on about. Essentially highlight, click share, choose quinoid, choose a 
wiki, text appears in a tiddler. 
Similar to BJ's Tiddlyclip but works in Android.

Best






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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Just a footnote, I hope is practical. 

*Decide your base Android version. Then look at typical memory on actual 
phones that run it.*

TBH on the Andy 8 I am on ... "external" stores are for backup, not 
running. I'd need another 20 bloated TW to start worrying internally.

Just a thought
Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
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> Thoughts?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Well, they need to be some place that Q can write to. There's only certain 
places (libraries) that Android will help the developer find -- for 
Documents, Download, Images, Music. The days of the Wild West, write 
anywhere are over. Unless you root your device, of course. Is there 
somewhere in particular you were thinking of?

-- Mark

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 9:58:07 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Quick note regarding paths.
>
> Once Quinoid is up and running can it decide its own default paths?
>
> "Download" is fine for starting but auto-downloads from within Quinoid, 
> once running, do they HAVE to be in a Downloads sub-dir?
>
> Just wondering
> Josiah
>
>  Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release
>>
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> 2 -- do I need to NOT have "Download" on "internal" (currently, 
> /storage/emulated/0/Download/)



That's a good question. I may be fighting someone else's (or some other 
times') war. The only reason to not use the internal Download is space. But 
TW files are small in the great scope of things. So maybe I should just 
live with whatever Android says is available. For that matter, maybe I 
should just tuck the downloaded file into internal space, allowing apps to 
send data (per Watt's suggestion) via sharing, with a possible Download 
option when people want their data out of Q. It may even be a mix, with 
some files external (and managed by the user) and some files internal 
(accessed through the app).

Thoughts?

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Quick note regarding paths.

Once Quinoid is up and running can it decide its own default paths?

"Download" is fine for starting but auto-downloads from within Quinoid, 
once running, do they HAVE to be in a Downloads sub-dir?

Just wondering
Josiah

 Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

The path root to my "external" is ... "/storage/8806-1BFD"

TBH I get lost in a forest of NO drive identifiers on my internal and 
external.

I will keep on probing.

J.

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Well, darn. I pulled every knob Android gave me hoping for the files to 
> end up on the external drive where I figure most people have more space. Do 
> you know if you have a download folder on your external drive? That is, 
> where does Firefox download its files? 
>

I DO. But is it ...

1 -- in the right position? (/storage/8806-1BFD/Download/)

&


2 -- do I need to NOT have "Download" on "internal" (currently, 
/storage/emulated/0/Download/)

Yours
Brain-Warp

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

What sort of apps would use Q's internal files? I can't think of anything 
other than browsers. How would other apps use Q's internal files? 

Going the other way, when Q gets a file on GDrive, it's actually using the 
internal sharing.

My original goal was to have Q access external files the way AndTidWiki 
did, so sharing wouldn't be necessary. But as time progresses, it might be 
better to think about "internalizing" the TW files, and only exporting them 
as needed. Since it seems I can only reliably depend on the internal 
protected space. The problem is that it makes it harder for people to 
synchronize files across their systems.

Hmm. Maybe if Q could pull from a node, work to its own copy, and then send 
results back that would provide portability. Like SimpleNotes. A bit 
ambitious though...

Forgot to mention. If you install the JSON from the release site, TW's 
reload buttons should work (after a first time reload). I'm thinking of 
making this the main avenue of reload. Currently, if you want to reload in 
Q, you back out of Q. The problem is, if you have a Download pending, Q 
loses the info for setting it up in the list. And if the download completes 
while you're in another app, I'm not sure Q will ever get notified. So I'm 
thinking of taking out the shutdown-on-back behaviour, though that will 
make things harder when people want to reload but haven't set up the JSON. 
For my own testing, downloads happen so fast that I probably couldn't even 
back out of Q before they were done.

Thanks!
-- Mark



On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 7:44:26 AM UTC-8, Watt wrote:
>
> For me the specific 'intent' I'm interested in is the ability to 'share..' 
> something e.g selected text, from any android app to a Quinoid housed wiki 
> (or vice versa).
>
> Orgzly is an example of an app that receives and broadcasts 'shares'. It 
> receives to what it calls notebooks and offers a 'select which notebook' 
> dialogue that might be a good model for a Quinoid ui.
>
> The accepted answer here is clearer about intents;
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6578051/what-is-an-intent-in-android
>
> or, if you speak Android;
> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent
>
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Watt]

For me the specific 'intent' I'm interested in is the ability to 'share..' 
something e.g selected text, from any android app to a Quinoid housed wiki (or 
vice versa).

Orgzly is an example of an app that receives and broadcasts 'shares'. It 
receives to what it calls notebooks and offers a 'select which notebook' 
dialogue that might be a good model for a Quinoid ui.

The accepted answer here is clearer about intents;
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6578051/what-is-an-intent-in-android

or, if you speak Android;
https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

There is Whole (off-topic) world in that subject. The main issue is stuff 
gets so very obscured. Protection at the price of deepening Obscurity? 
Something seems wrong!

On Monday, 18 February 2019 15:59:18 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I find LE to be more logical too, but unfortunately this doesn't seem to 
> be the future for Android (or any platform, actually). Everything is about 
> security, and with each upgrade they've found some new way to tighten 
> things up. In the new paradigm, apps talk to apps only after getting 
> permission, and then only in a limited capacity.
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 6:21:49 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Mark S.
>>
>> I reply in bits (from Andy 8-zero-zero).
>>
>> I notice that Local Explorer is now deprecated?
>>
>> Is this because future Android may dump it?
>>
>> Personally I find it more logical and sensible than the other method that 
>> is "picture" driven.
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, 
>>> but there's a lot that isn't settled yet.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Well, darn. I pulled every knob Android gave me hoping for the files to end 
up on the external drive where I figure most people have more space. Do you 
know if you have a download folder on your external drive? That is, where 
does Firefox download its files? Google doesn't just want to limit the 
drive where one can download, it also wants to shoehorn people off into 
directories meant for downloads, photos, or documents, depending on 
purpose. Manufacturers can change the pathing structure, so I can't be sure 
what is actually available.

Can you tell me the direct path to your external storage? Maybe I make a 
custom test using the actual path. If that doesn't work, then I know it's 
hopeless. If it does work, then I know I need to add a user preference 
where a working directory can be recorded.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 6:33:46 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S.
>
> I have "external" storage .. i.e. plugin SD card that is discontinuous 
> with internal storage.
>
> Empty downloaded (Download test) in seconds into 
> "/storage/emulated/0/Download/TW-files" on INTERNAL storage.  
>
> Auto-installed in Quinoid. 
>
> Loaded fine.
>
> Let me check pathing on "external" SD ... a dopo.
>
> J.
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I find LE to be more logical too, but unfortunately this doesn't seem to be 
the future for Android (or any platform, actually). Everything is about 
security, and with each upgrade they've found some new way to tighten 
things up. In the new paradigm, apps talk to apps only after getting 
permission, and then only in a limited capacity.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 6:21:49 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S.
>
> I reply in bits (from Andy 8-zero-zero).
>
> I notice that Local Explorer is now deprecated?
>
> Is this because future Android may dump it?
>
> Personally I find it more logical and sensible than the other method that 
> is "picture" driven.
>
> Josiah
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, 
>> but there's a lot that isn't settled yet.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks for your feedback!

I'm not sure what you mean by "intents". 

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 5:34:43 AM UTC-8, Watt wrote:
>
>
> Hope this helps. Do you think 'intents' will ever be doable? There is an 
> app in playstore called Orgzly which might give some ideas on managing 
> multiple wiki targets destinations, with tags, fields etc. It's org mode 
> though not wikis, but possibly a similar mechanism.
>
> Keep up the great work, thanks a lot!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S.

I have "external" storage .. i.e. plugin SD card that is discontinuous with 
internal storage.

Empty downloaded (Download test) in seconds into 
"/storage/emulated/0/Download/TW-files" on INTERNAL storage.  

Auto-installed in Quinoid. 

Loaded fine.

Let me check pathing on "external" SD ... a dopo.

J.

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S.

I reply in bits (from Andy 8-zero-zero).

I notice that Local Explorer is now deprecated?

Is this because future Android may dump it?

Personally I find it more logical and sensible than the other method that 
is "picture" driven.

Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, 
> but there's a lot that isn't settled yet.
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Watt]

Hi Mark

quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a on Android 7

Installs ok.

Opens, no location permissions requested.

Used the experimental 'Download empty' option - worked. 
Fast download on wifi. 

It didn't save to sdcard. It created a new folder 'TW-files' in internal 
storage and saved the timestamped empty.html there. 

I think my sdcard is configured as 'external storage' and seems to resist write 
operations anyway unless it's via SAF mode. Internal storage of 'TW-files' 
suits me better anyway.
 
Repeated process for three 'empty' downloads, all work ok in Quinoid.

Added an existing wiki from sdcard using the + . Opened and worked fine. Wrote 
tids and saved (on sdcard!).

Swiping is good - big wiki's slow it down because they take time to reload. I'm 
thinking of it like Quinoid is the OS, the list is the Windows95 Start menu and 
each wiki is an application. Some applications take time to open. Swiping 
between them is a bonus!

Imported a plugin - JD's mobile theme. Imported 'Refresh for Quinoid'. 
Back-arrowed to list and re-opened wiki. Mobile theme working. (not sure if 
Refresh for Quinoid did anything but the wiki refreshed on reload from list, I 
didn't have to exit Quinoid).

Exiting Quinoid via Android back-arrow clears it completely from recent apps.

Reopened Quinoid. Loaded a pre-made wiki with the Leaflet plugin installed. It 
successfully displays maps previously created outside of Quinoid, with location 
points previously stored in a points field.

GeoLoc macro, which acquires geo points, doesn't work in Quinoid. I gave 
Quinoid location permission in settings but it still didn't work for me.

GeoLoc macro does work in firefox for Android using the same wiki and macro, 
acquiring and saving location points. The only visible difference was firefox 
asking for location permissions so that suggests it's a Quinoid thing and it's 
not getting the location on request from geoLoc.

Hope this helps. Do you think 'intents' will ever be doable? There is an app in 
playstore called Orgzly which might give some ideas on managing multiple wiki 
targets destinations, with tags, fields etc. It's org mode though not wikis, 
but possibly a similar mechanism.

Keep up the great work, thanks a lot!

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Tony,

Are you on a data plan or WiFi? When you normally open tiddlywiki.com/empty 
in your browser, how long does it take?

I'm wondering if some combination of a data plan and/or your remoteness 
from the main TW site may slow things down enough that the items don't 
immediately appear on your list. Unfortunately, if you navigated away from 
Q in the mean time, then it may not know how to add the download to the 
main list. I might have to prioritized persistence of the download manager.

empty-20190218014-17-29.html and empty-20190218014-17-18.html would have 
been the items downloaded. When you view them in your browser, are they OK?

TIDDLYWIKISTUB7383952824269779 is a stub file typically created when you 
navigated via the System explorer. I don't think it's the empty file unless 
it was created when you navigated with the system explorer. In general, you 
shouldn't be seeing the stub file. The stub files are temporary and get 
erased when the app reboots. Too hard to diagnose at a distance ;-(

Just to confirm, you say the two empties downloaded to your *internal* 
download directory? Do you have a SD card, and is it formatted as external 
or internal memory (Starting 7 (?) you have to tell Android whether you 
want your card to be formatted as though internal space -- giving more 
space for apps -- or as external space -- giving more space for shared 
MP3s, photos, etc.).

I might be able to manage swipe left to leave some day, but swiping from 
the list into the browser would be much more challenging.

Thanks!
-- Mark


On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 7:41:39 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Reviewing now quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a on Android 8.0.0
>
> Selecting Download tesat had no feedback so I soon had 2 downloading in 
> the background. Canceled one in the download manager, it is slow (but thats 
> ok).
>
> Found in the internal memory Download TW-files two empty files
> empty-20190218014-17-29.html
> empty-20190218014-17-18.html
>
> of 2.17MB in size
>
> Oddly I went to use back to close quinoid and I had to press three times 
> before it exited.
>
>
>- No change to the wiki list, + and browsed to Internal > Downloads 
>and TW-Files and opened one of the empty files, 
>- Tap to open from list opens my two existing items and a blank 
>screen, 
>- swipe left to open one of my existing wikis, has a 1-3sec display or 
>white, before it displays (unlike previously) - I think this is an 
> artifact 
>of the mobile view, material theme, sidebar open.
>- Empty wiki not appearing after time, but is now in list as 
>TIDDLYWIKISTUB738395282426977923.html
>- New download test whilst staying on wiki list screen (will report 
>later)
>- Will try geo-location soon
>
>
> *Question*
>
> Is there any reason we can't swipe left back to the Quinoid list, and 
> arguably swipe right to load/(re)view the open wikis? It may be a little 
> more intuitive.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, 18 February 2019 13:46:00 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, 
>> but there's a lot that isn't settled yet. It has a new look, with "System 
>> Explorer" now activated through the "+" icon and "File Explorer" activated 
>> though the overflow menu. On the new overflow menu is also a download 
>> option, that is meant to download an empty TW from tiddlywiki.com. This 
>> is in preparation for offering users the chance to quickly load up on 
>> well-known and crafted TW files.
>>
>> It's testing on the download functionality that interests me. I'm only 
>> able to test through emulators at the moment, and they give me inconsistent 
>> information on multiple levels. One emulator works great. Another gives the 
>> "OK", but then says there's something wrong with the file system, and then 
>> chooses to put the file somewhere else and with a nonsensical name.
>>
>> What I'm trying to do is to save to a sub-directory of the user's *external 
>> *download directory. This way the user can be in charge of deleting and 
>> cleaning up. If people are willing to test, they should have an android 
>> with an external card, preferably with an existing "Download" directory. 
>> After running the download menu option, the new item should appear in your 
>> browse list. Unfortunately, at least on one emulator, it's possible that it 
>> will instead write to the download directory of the internal card, using a 
>> name that won't even look like a standard html file name. I don't know if 
>> this is for real, or just an anomaly of the emulator. 
>>
>> If you have a slow connection and have to log out of quinoid before the 
>> download is complete, then it's possible that the download will complete 
>> later but not appear in your list. In my tests, with WiFi, this wasn't a 
>> problem as the download was almost instantaneous. There's a bunch more 
>> coding I would have to do to prevent the non-listed download situation. But 
>> 

[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[TonyM]

Mark,

Reviewing now quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a on Android 8.0.0

Selecting Download tesat had no feedback so I soon had 2 downloading in the 
background. Canceled one in the download manager, it is slow (but thats ok).

Found in the internal memory Download TW-files two empty files
empty-20190218014-17-29.html
empty-20190218014-17-18.html

of 2.17MB in size

Oddly I went to use back to close quinoid and I had to press three times 
before it exited.


   - No change to the wiki list, + and browsed to Internal > Downloads and 
   TW-Files and opened one of the empty files, 
   - Tap to open from list opens my two existing items and a blank screen, 
   - swipe left to open one of my existing wikis, has a 1-3sec display or 
   white, before it displays (unlike previously) - I think this is an artifact 
   of the mobile view, material theme, sidebar open.
   - Empty wiki not appearing after time, but is now in list as 
   TIDDLYWIKISTUB738395282426977923.html
   - New download test whilst staying on wiki list screen (will report 
   later)
   - Will try geo-location soon


*Question*

Is there any reason we can't swipe left back to the Quinoid list, and 
arguably swipe right to load/(re)view the open wikis? It may be a little 
more intuitive.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, 18 February 2019 13:46:00 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, 
> but there's a lot that isn't settled yet. It has a new look, with "System 
> Explorer" now activated through the "+" icon and "File Explorer" activated 
> though the overflow menu. On the new overflow menu is also a download 
> option, that is meant to download an empty TW from tiddlywiki.com. This 
> is in preparation for offering users the chance to quickly load up on 
> well-known and crafted TW files.
>
> It's testing on the download functionality that interests me. I'm only 
> able to test through emulators at the moment, and they give me inconsistent 
> information on multiple levels. One emulator works great. Another gives the 
> "OK", but then says there's something wrong with the file system, and then 
> chooses to put the file somewhere else and with a nonsensical name.
>
> What I'm trying to do is to save to a sub-directory of the user's *external 
> *download directory. This way the user can be in charge of deleting and 
> cleaning up. If people are willing to test, they should have an android 
> with an external card, preferably with an existing "Download" directory. 
> After running the download menu option, the new item should appear in your 
> browse list. Unfortunately, at least on one emulator, it's possible that it 
> will instead write to the download directory of the internal card, using a 
> name that won't even look like a standard html file name. I don't know if 
> this is for real, or just an anomaly of the emulator. 
>
> If you have a slow connection and have to log out of quinoid before the 
> download is complete, then it's possible that the download will complete 
> later but not appear in your list. In my tests, with WiFi, this wasn't a 
> problem as the download was almost instantaneous. There's a bunch more 
> coding I would have to do to prevent the non-listed download situation. But 
> first I want to know how well the downloading works at all. It's another 
> question whether I should prevent downloads except when connected to WiFi. 
> Possibly a user configuration.
>
> @Tony  -- I added some additional geo permissions to the v0.0.6 update. 
> Curious if that made your geo-json file work any better. These additional 
> permissions may be why TT was getting additional quizzing by the 
> PlayProtect system.
>
> Thanks everyone -- be sure to backup and take precautions if you try the 
> release!
>
> -- Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.6alpha
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, but 
there's a lot that isn't settled yet. It has a new look, with "System 
Explorer" now activated through the "+" icon and "File Explorer" activated 
though the overflow menu. On the new overflow menu is also a download 
option, that is meant to download an empty TW from tiddlywiki.com. This is 
in preparation for offering users the chance to quickly load up on 
well-known and crafted TW files.

It's testing on the download functionality that interests me. I'm only able 
to test through emulators at the moment, and they give me inconsistent 
information on multiple levels. One emulator works great. Another gives the 
"OK", but then says there's something wrong with the file system, and then 
chooses to put the file somewhere else and with a nonsensical name.

What I'm trying to do is to save to a sub-directory of the user's *external 
*download directory. This way the user can be in charge of deleting and 
cleaning up. If people are willing to test, they should have an android 
with an external card, preferably with an existing "Download" directory. 
After running the download menu option, the new item should appear in your 
browse list. Unfortunately, at least on one emulator, it's possible that it 
will instead write to the download directory of the internal card, using a 
name that won't even look like a standard html file name. I don't know if 
this is for real, or just an anomaly of the emulator. 

If you have a slow connection and have to log out of quinoid before the 
download is complete, then it's possible that the download will complete 
later but not appear in your list. In my tests, with WiFi, this wasn't a 
problem as the download was almost instantaneous. There's a bunch more 
coding I would have to do to prevent the non-listed download situation. But 
first I want to know how well the downloading works at all. It's another 
question whether I should prevent downloads except when connected to WiFi. 
Possibly a user configuration.

@Tony  -- I added some additional geo permissions to the v0.0.6 update. 
Curious if that made your geo-json file work any better. These additional 
permissions may be why TT was getting additional quizzing by the 
PlayProtect system.

Thanks everyone -- be sure to backup and take precautions if you try the 
release!

-- Mark






https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.6alpha


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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Quick note.

All working well. So, thanks again.

Only difference on install was that Android (8.0.0) on this version adds a 
level of  confirmations. "PlayProtect" popped up with a warning flag. First 
time round I backed out. Mistake. I then had to disable PlayProtect in the 
Google Store thing. Install after that went fine. Then I re-enabled it.

Just FYI, Josiah

On Friday, 8 February 2019 01:38:46 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> When you exit from Q, does it disappear from the recent-run list (the one 
> activated with the right-hand square) ?
>
> On GDrive you need to tell GDrive that a file is "pinned" for offline. 
> Does the same concept apply on 1drive ?
>
> At this step:
>
> >> Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
>
> Did you verify with some other app that the contents of file were modified 
> on the Desktop? That is, there needs to be confirmation that the actual 
> contents changed, and not just a change in the datestamp. Otherwise it's 
> possible that 1Drive changes the datestamp without changing the contents.
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:20:14 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I will research further, but I followed these basic steps and the result 
>> befuddled me
>>
>> All from memory, thus I will retest soon.
>>
>>- Placed wiki in OneDrive on desktop
>>- Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
>>- Added/Opened the wiki in Quinoid from the local synced copy, made 
>>changes saving occurred
>>- Returned to Wikilist in Quinoid, closed Quinoid
>>- Awaited for the changed wiki to be synced to desktop, opened and 
>>saw the change made on mobile was visible 
>>- Made a change on the Wiki via the desktop and saved
>>- Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
>>- Opened Quinoid, selected from the wiki list
>>- Wiki opened with the changes made on the mobile but not the changes 
>>made on the desktop
>>Even although the oneDrive file on the android had the time stamp of 
>>the desktop version
>>- I then removed the Wiki from the Quinoid wiki list, then added it 
>>back using system explorer
>>- The Wiki opened and contained the Desktop modifications
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 10:24:31 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> How are you updating the wiki from the desktop? If you back out of Q, 
>>> then update from the desktop, and then go back in, it *should* see the new 
>>> wiki. But if you're using GDrive, GDrive itself doesn't recognize the 
>>> changed date stamp. So there's a different order in which to do things. 
>>> It's possible other synch software (such as dropbox) has this same 
>>> limitation. So it would be helpful to understand what your synching 
>>> mechanism is.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 2:40:32 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:

 Mark,

 Testing 0.0.6alpha on Android 8

 I can load the wiki from one drive using the system explorer. I can 
 update the wiki from the desktop, on one drive, close and then reopen 
 Quinoid and even although the file change is propagated to the mobile, it 
 continues to open the prior version, until I remove it from the wiki list 
 and add it back. Then on opening it has being updated.

 Does this make sense?

 Regards
 Tony
  

 On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:21:31 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Two new mechanisms for refresh (see Readme.md). Installing the 
> available JSON should allow standard refresh to work for maximum 
> convenience.  Backing out of Q. should completely close out activity. 
> Added 
> some GEO permissions to see if that allows basic geo-functionality. User 
> will be blocked from browsing if no files chosen for blocking.
>
> Additional suggestions re GDrive in the Readme.md. As always, be 
> careful and treat with caution. Be sure to backup regularly.
>
> -- Mark
>


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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

When you exit from Q, does it disappear from the recent-run list (the one 
activated with the right-hand square) ?

On GDrive you need to tell GDrive that a file is "pinned" for offline. Does 
the same concept apply on 1drive ?

At this step:

>> Waited for to it to sync latest version on android

Did you verify with some other app that the contents of file were modified 
on the Desktop? That is, there needs to be confirmation that the actual 
contents changed, and not just a change in the datestamp. Otherwise it's 
possible that 1Drive changes the datestamp without changing the contents.

Thanks!
-- Mark


On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:20:14 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I will research further, but I followed these basic steps and the result 
> befuddled me
>
> All from memory, thus I will retest soon.
>
>- Placed wiki in OneDrive on desktop
>- Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
>- Added/Opened the wiki in Quinoid from the local synced copy, made 
>changes saving occurred
>- Returned to Wikilist in Quinoid, closed Quinoid
>- Awaited for the changed wiki to be synced to desktop, opened and saw 
>the change made on mobile was visible 
>- Made a change on the Wiki via the desktop and saved
>- Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
>- Opened Quinoid, selected from the wiki list
>- Wiki opened with the changes made on the mobile but not the changes 
>made on the desktop
>Even although the oneDrive file on the android had the time stamp of 
>the desktop version
>- I then removed the Wiki from the Quinoid wiki list, then added it 
>back using system explorer
>- The Wiki opened and contained the Desktop modifications
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 10:24:31 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> How are you updating the wiki from the desktop? If you back out of Q, 
>> then update from the desktop, and then go back in, it *should* see the new 
>> wiki. But if you're using GDrive, GDrive itself doesn't recognize the 
>> changed date stamp. So there's a different order in which to do things. 
>> It's possible other synch software (such as dropbox) has this same 
>> limitation. So it would be helpful to understand what your synching 
>> mechanism is.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 2:40:32 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Testing 0.0.6alpha on Android 8
>>>
>>> I can load the wiki from one drive using the system explorer. I can 
>>> update the wiki from the desktop, on one drive, close and then reopen 
>>> Quinoid and even although the file change is propagated to the mobile, it 
>>> continues to open the prior version, until I remove it from the wiki list 
>>> and add it back. Then on opening it has being updated.
>>>
>>> Does this make sense?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:21:31 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:

 Two new mechanisms for refresh (see Readme.md). Installing the 
 available JSON should allow standard refresh to work for maximum 
 convenience.  Backing out of Q. should completely close out activity. 
 Added 
 some GEO permissions to see if that allows basic geo-functionality. User 
 will be blocked from browsing if no files chosen for blocking.

 Additional suggestions re GDrive in the Readme.md. As always, be 
 careful and treat with caution. Be sure to backup regularly.

 -- Mark

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[TonyM]

Mark,

I will research further, but I followed these basic steps and the result 
befuddled me

All from memory, thus I will retest soon.

   - Placed wiki in OneDrive on desktop
   - Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
   - Added/Opened the wiki in Quinoid from the local synced copy, made 
   changes saving occurred
   - Returned to Wikilist in Quinoid, closed Quinoid
   - Awaited for the changed wiki to be synced to desktop, opened and saw 
   the change made on mobile was visible 
   - Made a change on the Wiki via the desktop and saved
   - Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
   - Opened Quinoid, selected from the wiki list
   - Wiki opened with the changes made on the mobile but not the changes 
   made on the desktop
   Even although the oneDrive file on the android had the time stamp of the 
   desktop version
   - I then removed the Wiki from the Quinoid wiki list, then added it back 
   using system explorer
   - The Wiki opened and contained the Desktop modifications

Regards
Tony


On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 10:24:31 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> How are you updating the wiki from the desktop? If you back out of Q, then 
> update from the desktop, and then go back in, it *should* see the new wiki. 
> But if you're using GDrive, GDrive itself doesn't recognize the changed 
> date stamp. So there's a different order in which to do things. It's 
> possible other synch software (such as dropbox) has this same limitation. 
> So it would be helpful to understand what your synching mechanism is.
>
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 2:40:32 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Testing 0.0.6alpha on Android 8
>>
>> I can load the wiki from one drive using the system explorer. I can 
>> update the wiki from the desktop, on one drive, close and then reopen 
>> Quinoid and even although the file change is propagated to the mobile, it 
>> continues to open the prior version, until I remove it from the wiki list 
>> and add it back. Then on opening it has being updated.
>>
>> Does this make sense?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>  
>>
>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:21:31 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Two new mechanisms for refresh (see Readme.md). Installing the available 
>>> JSON should allow standard refresh to work for maximum convenience.  
>>> Backing out of Q. should completely close out activity. Added some GEO 
>>> permissions to see if that allows basic geo-functionality. User will be 
>>> blocked from browsing if no files chosen for blocking.
>>>
>>> Additional suggestions re GDrive in the Readme.md. As always, be careful 
>>> and treat with caution. Be sure to backup regularly.
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

How are you updating the wiki from the desktop? If you back out of Q, then 
update from the desktop, and then go back in, it *should* see the new wiki. 
But if you're using GDrive, GDrive itself doesn't recognize the changed 
date stamp. So there's a different order in which to do things. It's 
possible other synch software (such as dropbox) has this same limitation. 
So it would be helpful to understand what your synching mechanism is.


Thanks!
-- Mark

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 2:40:32 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Testing 0.0.6alpha on Android 8
>
> I can load the wiki from one drive using the system explorer. I can update 
> the wiki from the desktop, on one drive, close and then reopen Quinoid and 
> even although the file change is propagated to the mobile, it continues to 
> open the prior version, until I remove it from the wiki list and add it 
> back. Then on opening it has being updated.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>  
>
> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:21:31 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Two new mechanisms for refresh (see Readme.md). Installing the available 
>> JSON should allow standard refresh to work for maximum convenience.  
>> Backing out of Q. should completely close out activity. Added some GEO 
>> permissions to see if that allows basic geo-functionality. User will be 
>> blocked from browsing if no files chosen for blocking.
>>
>> Additional suggestions re GDrive in the Readme.md. As always, be careful 
>> and treat with caution. Be sure to backup regularly.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[TonyM]

Mark,

Testing 0.0.6alpha on Android 8

I can load the wiki from one drive using the system explorer. I can update 
the wiki from the desktop, on one drive, close and then reopen Quinoid and 
even although the file change is propagated to the mobile, it continues to 
open the prior version, until I remove it from the wiki list and add it 
back. Then on opening it has being updated.

Does this make sense?

Regards
Tony
 

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:21:31 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Two new mechanisms for refresh (see Readme.md). Installing the available 
> JSON should allow standard refresh to work for maximum convenience.  
> Backing out of Q. should completely close out activity. Added some GEO 
> permissions to see if that allows basic geo-functionality. User will be 
> blocked from browsing if no files chosen for blocking.
>
> Additional suggestions re GDrive in the Readme.md. As always, be careful 
> and treat with caution. Be sure to backup regularly.
>
> -- Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Watt]

Installs ok and functionality of v0.0.5 still working but new features not 
working for me this time.

Refresh: imported the Refresh-for-Quinoid.json. Exited quinoid, restarted, 
refresh not doing anything. The tiddler containing the script is displaying the 
script in italics minus the first 

[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Watt]

https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.6alpha

.apk is to be found under Assets

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[Mohammad]

Hi Mark,
Updated to 0.0.6alpha
Works great! The wiki on GDrive and local folder both work
favicon works

Android 9.

Note: I use the system explorer.

--Mohammad

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:51:31 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Two new mechanisms for refresh (see Readme.md). Installing the available 
> JSON should allow standard refresh to work for maximum convenience.  
> Backing out of Q. should completely close out activity. Added some GEO 
> permissions to see if that allows basic geo-functionality. User will be 
> blocked from browsing if no files chosen for blocking.
>
> Additional suggestions re GDrive in the Readme.md. As always, be careful 
> and treat with caution. Be sure to backup regularly.
>
> -- Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.5alpha - Serious Cat

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I'd add this ... 
https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/status/1092476573851230208

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> Be careful! Make backups before starting anything important!
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.5alpha - Serious Cat

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I'd add this ... 
https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/status/1092476573851230208

Though it may take time.

J.

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>
> Be careful! Make backups before starting anything important!
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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.5alpha - Serious Cat

[TonyM]

Mark,

On of the advantagez of Quinoid is it is a reboot of tw on android. As it is 
important the role andwiki has played I would not use it as the benchmark. I 
moved to Termux and node on my mobile for this reason. I would think that 
serving tw5 on android is largely addressed even if install is long winded. I 
see quinoid providing single file wikis on android. Of course I am not 
presuming what you think or will do.

Importing Plugins, json and bundles are the methods by which we transfer 
content to and from tiddlywiki, especialy on mobile since to my knowledge we 
cant drag drop content.

I did sucessfully install from the plugin library but had to return to reload. 
The reload button does not work.

I now havv 130 installed and testing. Thants so much.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.5alpha - Serious Cat

[@TiddlyTweeter]

If you addressing me--simply its beginning-time-on-Android. I'm messing 
about a lot.

J.

On Saturday, 2 February 2019 19:44:13 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
>  I'm curious about your work-flow that requires you to so frequently be 
> changing up plugins. Usually I install a plugin, and then forget about it 
> pretty much forever. I don't think I ever attempted to load a plugin while 
> using AndTidWiki or mobile FF, so it's all a bit suprising to me ...
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.5alpha - Serious Cat

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

 I'm curious about your work-flow that requires you to so frequently be 
changing up plugins. Usually I install a plugin, and then forget about it 
pretty much forever. I don't think I ever attempted to load a plugin while 
using AndTidWiki or mobile FF, so it's all a bit suprising to me ...

Thanks!
-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.5alpha - Serious Cat

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Lest I forget ... REFRESH does not work. When needed, like on plugin 
install, closing Quinoid and then re-opening does the job.

IF this is necessary behaviour, longer term, it might be worth documenting?

Best wishes
Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
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>
> quinoid-190201a.apk will use the favicon from your TW (after visiting 
> page). Some people may find this an improvement over Q-T cat . ;-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.5alpha - Serious Cat

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S.

One thing worth stressing is that allowing the user to load just one 
wiki---apart from the obvious simply utility of only loading what you are 
actively using---is it plays much better with TW that are more touch 
intensive. Previously swipe actions could be a problem in such wiki.

Many thanks
Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> quinoid-190201a.apk will use the favicon from your TW (after visiting 
> page). Some people may find this an improvement over Q-T cat . ;-)
>
> Also adds internet permissions. I haven't tested whether this actually 
> changes anything in terms of viewing hosted images.
>

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.5alpha - Serious Cat

[@TiddlyTweeter]

All round excellent.

As I use it more related issues arise that are not Quinoid but need be in a 
#MobileTips List somewhere ...

1 - It's well worth making sure a wiki has a favicon. ($:/favicon.ico). 
Point is not just it gives an icon in Quinoid but also mobile browsers and 
desktop launchers can show it. 

2 - For larger wiki, especially if other people might use them, creating a 
"Loading" splash screen is a good idea. They work well in Quinoid. How? See 
...

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Creating%20a%20splash%20screen

https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FSplashScreen

3 - If a wiki doesn't look quite right The Browser Sniff plugin can be 
useful to get basic info on screen size to help determine optimal width 
settings ... See ...

https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fbrowser-sniff

https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fthemes%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fvanilla%2Fthemetweaks

Best wishes
Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> quinoid-190201a.apk will use the favicon from your TW (after visiting 
> page). Some people may find this an improvement over Q-T cat . ;-)
>
> Also adds internet permissions. I haven't tested whether this actually 
> changes anything in terms of viewing hosted images.
>
> Be careful! Make backups before starting anything important!
>
> -- Mark
>

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